YTSEJAM digest 4060

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Mon Jul 13 1998 - 04:47:58 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4057
     by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
      2) YTSEJAM digest 4058
     by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
      3) Metropolis part II ?
     by Angus53@aol.com
      4) Re: You want an intelligent debate? Read.
     by 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle)
      5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4058
     by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
      6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4058
     by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
      7) Re: Sports and Non-prog
     by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
      8) prog
     by "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
      9) E__L__P!!
     by "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
     10) KMFDM
     by "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
     11) Re: non-prog music
     by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
     12) EtX
     by "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
     13) 2
     by "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
     14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4059
     by Nshsunsfan@aol.com
     15) 3
     by "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
     16) Stephen Hawking
     by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
     17) help? please? <sniff>
     by "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
     18) last one
     by "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
     19) Non Prog... Oh, and some Prog too.
     by AL <al@isd.net>
     20) FII boots
     by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
     21) Re: Metropolis part II ?
     by 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle)
     22) World Cup Final
     by 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle)
     23) Re: non-prog favorites
     by Rick Audet <ytse@concentric.net>

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:27:02 EDT
    From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4057
    Message-ID: <be095d4a.35a98c97@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-07-12 08:06:43 EDT, you write:

    << I'm wondering what you jammers listen to besides prog rock (yes, early
     genesis, elp, marillion, rush, pink floyd, king crimson, gentle giant, et
     al) and prog metal (dt, fates warning, savatage, etc). This could include
     "normal" classic rock (Hendrix, Cream, Zeppelin), "normal" metal of any
     type, proficient or not, (Metallica, Judas Priest), and anything else. So,
     basically, I'm asking for anything not in the "progressive" category.
     
     Here are mine: >>

    Artch
    Collective Soul
    Faith No More
    Fight
    Live
    Metallica (old)
    Megadeth
    Ozzy
    Prong
    Priest
    Rage Against the Machine
    Satriani
    Saxon (yes, Saxon)
    Vai (progressive---who knows what)

    besides prog. metal. . .

    Nikki

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:50:51 EDT
    From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 4058
    Message-ID: <349bbf7c.35a9922c@aol.com>

    Thanks to all the Yste Jammers,

    who took the time out and e-mailed me
    directly with instructions to get on the mailing

    . . .I'M HERE . . .

    Nikki

    Through Nature's Inflexible Grace,
    I'm Learning to Live. -- J. Myung

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:55:39 EDT
    From: Angus53@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Metropolis part II ?
    Message-ID: <b9d03a63.35a9934c@aol.com>

    Um, anybody heard when this thing is coming out?

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:13:49 +0000
    From: 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: You want an intelligent debate? Read.
    Message-ID: <35a86cf3.or304@or304.mc.gov.au>

    > Unless they play Metropolis when Brazil comes
    > running onto the field today while 96 French spectators are crushed to death
    > because an unintelligent and uncaring mob wants a better view of the game, I
    > don't want to hear about it.

    Keep this kind of sick sadistic humour coming :)
    Korg, I love your posts they are funny as fuck and right down there
    in the gutter next to my sarcastic verbal diarrhoea....

    graham

    PS Are you a girl or boy and where did your parents get the name
    'KorgX3' from ?

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:16:19 EDT
    From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4058
    Message-ID: <65622b1b.35a99824@aol.com>

    And:

    Accept
    Boston
    Blue Murder
    Meatloaf
    Gary Moore
    MSG
    Pantera
    Chile Peppers
    Queen
    Scorps
    Shooting Star
    Tony MacAlpine
    Triumph, Triumph, & Triumph
    Y&T

    I forgot those oldies.

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:18:18 EDT
    From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4058
    Message-ID: <bbe1539c.35a9989e@aol.com>

    And:

    Accept
    Boston
    Blue Murder
    Meatloaf
    Gary Moore
    MSG
    Pantera
    Chile Peppers
    Queen
    Scorps
    Shooting Star
    Tony MacAlpine
    Triumph, Triumph, & Triumph
    Y&T

    I forgot those oldies.

    Nikki

    * Through Nature's Inflexible Grace, *
         * I'm Learning to Live -- J. Myung *

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:20:21 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Sports and Non-prog
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980713010522.18759A-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>

    > My biggest reason for the protest is that I hate sports in general. The
    > whole principle that (at least in the US) our school's athletic programs
    > receive more funding than any educational programs really pisses me off.

            Amen brother! I could hardly agree more. This leads me to
    another related topic. When I was much younger, I loved sports. The kind
    of kid who woke early to read to scores in the paper. But as soon as I
    started to really LISTEN to music and started to play instruments and
    such, I found that I had no interest whatsoever in sports. And after a
    while I couldn't stand them. Now I admit that playing the occaisional
    game with some pals can be fun, but I could care less who won what game or
    got what title, or what rank some college team is. And football I really
    hate! Always have. I get really annoyed how so many people assume that
    other people are into sports, as in: "Hey, do you know who won the game?"
    Anyways, have any of you other people had this happen to them as well?

    As to continue the non-prog trend, here are my non-prog choices:

    Iron Maiden (all eras)
    Clutch
    Type O Negative
    Wendy Carlos and the LSI Philharmonic
    Jethro Tull (I don't consider them prog)
    Fear Factory
    AC/DC (Bon Scott stuff)
    Star Wars soundtracks
    It goes on, but these fill my CD players the most these days.

    -C#

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:27:30 PDT
    From: "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: prog
    Message-ID: <19980713052730.17331.qmail@hotmail.com>

       Let me correct that. LTE is very prog. I think because we listen to
    so much prog, it just sounds like music, and 80% of non-prog sounds like
    crap. I mean, I would never think Alan Parsons to be prog except they're
    listed under that. Only when I think about it do I realize that for our
    small group, 80% of "real music" is prog in some way compared to the
    mainstream.
    -maX

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:36:23 PDT
    From: "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: E__L__P!!
    Message-ID: <19980713053623.7711.qmail@hotmail.com>

       I ...
       MEAN ...
       THE ...
       MUSIC !!!

    ARE THEY PLAYING _MUSIC_ DONE BY *JUST* E-L-PALMER OR
    ARE THEY PLAYING MUSIC DONE BY _BOTH_ E-L-POWELL *AND* E-L-PALMER?

    I'm not mad. Sorry if it sounds that way. I don't know how to express a
    jokingly, but frustrated tone. Maybe if I put smiles on everything?
         (c:]>*
    -maX =^..^=

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:44:03 PDT
    From: "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: KMFDM
    Message-ID: <19980713054403.20087.qmail@hotmail.com>

       This rumor is about to be cleared up once and for all.
    KMFDM means (write this down): KEIN MITLEID FUR DIE MEHRHEIT.
       Translation: "No Pity For The Majority"

    Glad to be of service. MAX AMUNDO SAVES THE DAY YET ONCE AGAIN!!!
    im a dork

    -maX =^..^=

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:49:04 -0500 (CDT)
    From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: non-prog music
    Message-ID: <199871314636241@ix.netcom.com>

    ok, non prog is:

    Led Zeppelin
    Yngwie Malmsteen
    Stratovarius (what Ive heard (on ytseradio) I love, I gotta get an album)
    Allan Holdsworth
    Return to Forever (Al DiMeola stuff)

    prog (deep breath):

    Dream Theater
    Pink Floyd
    Genesis
    Yes
    Rush
    Marillion
    LTE
    King Crimson
    Angra (see what I said about Stratovarius)
    Emerson, Lake, and Palmer
    Explorer's Club (AOI ROOOOOOOOCKS)
    Cairo (their 2nd CD is cool)

    Anyway, Stratovarius fans and Angra fans, recommend some albums that
    I should get. I really want to follow up on these guys.

    Matt

    "chuckles wants REAL eggs."

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:51:52 PDT
    From: "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: EtX
    Message-ID: <19980713055152.19303.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Death Lord:

       Eternity X. The Edge. I'm tired of bands with X in the name, but this
    one's the BEST!

    -maX

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:53:10 PDT
    From: "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: 2
    Message-ID: <19980713055311.25410.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Death Lord:

       I'm sure you knoe Fates Warning? And Queensryche are still considered
    prog.

    -maX

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:54:14 EDT
    From: Nshsunsfan@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4059
    Message-ID: <96047ea4.35a9a108@aol.com>

    | "Seize the day!" I heard him say, |
    | Life will not always be this way. |
    | Look around, Hear the sounds. |
    | Cherish your life while your still around.

    First come, first serve, sorry digesters.

    1-Lie-Sealed Digipak-1. Lie (5:02)
    2-Pull Me Under-PRCD 4724-1. Edit (5:54) 2. LP Version (8:11)
    2-Burning My Soul-PRCD 9898-1. Radio Edit 2. LP Version 3. Audio Bio
    2-Metal Sampler-BMS, YNM, PS-PRCD 9899-1. BMS (5:29) 2. YNM (4:58) 3. PS
    (6:43) LP Versions
    2-Caught In a Web-PRCD 5965- 1. Edit (4:09) 2. Album Version (5:28)

    $12 each ppd in US, plus postage ROW. obo.

    or let me know if you want to trade and I'll let you know
    what I'm looking for.

    trevor

    "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>

    (c:]>*

    Symphony X and Empty Tremor, but I'll have to order them through
    CDNow and they are imports.

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:55:12 PDT
    From: "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: 3
    Message-ID: <19980713055512.17992.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Death Lord:

       I'm an idiot. Oops! Fates was already there. It's too late. Sorry.

    -maX

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:03:01 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Stephen Hawking
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980713015822.10746G-100000@thunder>

    I am willing to bet that more people know of this genious than Korg eluded
    to. "A brief history of time" is a MUST read (for all the armchair
    scientist out there.... he comunicates his ideas at a level which someone
    with a normal IQ can understand).

    And for the music content of Stephen Hawking...
    from Pink Floyds "Division Bell":

    "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals
    Then something happened which unleashed the power of imagination.
    We learned to talk...
    All we need to do is make sure we keep talking"

    How appropriate actually :)

    -Ponte

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:07:14 PDT
    From: "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: help? please? <sniff>
    Message-ID: <19980713060714.10769.qmail@hotmail.com>

       Help! MentolPyro@aol.com and I are suffering as we never got 4050 or
    4056. Is Ytsejam skipping numbers? Or is it just a weird coincidence.
    Someone else didn't get 4050 too. Bet he didn't get 4056 either.
       Thanks! You kick ass!

    -maX AMUNDO =^..^=

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:23:24 PDT
    From: "Max Amundo" <maxamundo@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: last one
    Message-ID: <19980713062324.4011.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Sorry if I'm annoying anyone with my multiple posts, but I see a lot of
    people on here who say that so-and-so band is their favorite. Does
    anyone besides me think DREAM THEATER is their favorite? Just curious...

    Damn, yet another delay for True Dreamers 3. I apologize for the delay.
    I'm splitting it up, and I'll answer it in parts. It'll be here. Trust
    me.

    That's all for now, I won't bother you for a while... (c:]>*

    -maX

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:41:29 -0500
    From: AL <al@isd.net>
    To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Non Prog... Oh, and some Prog too.
    Message-ID: <35A9AC19.AF711CC5@isd.net>

    Rock & Metal:
    Alice In Chains - Alice Cooper (old), - Black Sabbath - Boston - The Cars -
    Cheap Trick - Cinderella - Deep Purple - Bruce Dickinson - The Doors - Dire
    Straits - Fleetwood Mac - Heart - Elton John - Krokus - Megadeth - Eddie Money
    Motley Crue - Aldo Nova - Ted Nugent - Ozzy - Reo Speedwagon - Scorpions -
    AL Stewart - Styx (kinda prog) - 'Til Tuesday - Van Halen (old) - Whitesnake.

    Progressive:
    Dream Theater - Fates Warning - Genesis - Kansas - King's X - Alan Parsons Project -
    Queensryche - Rush - Symphony X - Uriah Heep - and YES. (I grew up on this stuff)
    That's right, Uriah Heep... And nobody here EVER brings them up.

    Misc:
    Flim and the BB's - Kenny G - Mannheim Steamroller - Andreas Vollenweider.

    This is far from all I listen to, this stuff just gets into the regular rotation.
    I hate Country music (makes my butt pucker) Rap & Hip Hop SUCKS!
    I'm 36 years old, I have been a music fan since I was about 5. I have surrounded
    myself with $30,000.00 + of stereo gear, and my heart belongs to Prog.

    --
    See ya,   AL...     The YTSE Progtologist
    

    Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:14:37 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FII boots Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34170A536@ms.kallback.com>

    Hey, Would anyone (Marcel, Nick, Bahr, Felix?) care to post comparing and contrasting the currently available FII cd boots both for sound quality and track listing? I'm sure we'd all like to get the most bang for our buck (at least until the LA and Paris shows are available) :)

    1. Marcel's 'De Maaspoort' Den Bosch 2. Nicky B's Fasten Your Seatbelts 3. Bahr's Welcome to the Wasteland 4. OAN's Static Progress 5. In Germany 4/18/97 6. Others???

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:38:29 +0000 From: 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Metropolis part II ? Message-ID: <35a89bdf.or304@or304.mc.gov.au>

    > Um, anybody heard when this thing is coming out?

    Er, how long is a piece of string ? Um, sorry my crystal ball ain't working today...

    g

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:48:00 +0000 From: 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: World Cup Final Message-ID: <35a89be1.or304@or304.mc.gov.au>

    France 3 Brasil 0 Just to prove that Ronaldo and the rest of his overated, overpaid and overweight teamates are human....... Surely the upset of the century ? Roger my symphathies, bwhahahahaha :)

    g

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    Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 01:34:36 -0700 From: Rick Audet <ytse@concentric.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: non-prog favorites Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980713013430.00769abc@pop3.concentric.net>

    Chuck wrote:

    >Man, there are too many metalheads on this list. Branch out you guys and >pick up some lighter stuff. :)

    No kidding.

    My turn.

    The Cure, Depeche Mode, YANNI, The The, Frontline Assembly, Delerium Intermix, Jam & Spoon, Opus III, RuPaul, Orbital, Rippingtons, Seal Tears For Fears, DJ Shadow, Future Sound of London, Meat Beat Manifesto The Prodigy, The Crystal Method, Synaesthesia, Switchblade Symphony Massive Attack, Tricky, The Grassy Knoll, Medeski Martin & Wood, Deep Forest Robert Miles, PANTERA, Slide Five, Critters Buggin' Goldie, Beastie Boys Pat Metheny, Material, Bill Laswell, Noise Unit, Deee-Lite...

    Rick Audet San Francisco

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