YTSEJAM digest 4074

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Jul 16 1998 - 23:11:27 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: 2 CD Live DT packaging
     by Calvin6S@aol.com
      2) Stream of Consciousness
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
      3) Jones Beach/t-shirts
     by Devs0432@aol.com
      4) New prog band
     by Stefan Eriksson <stefan.eriksson@mindless.com>
      5) The proof that Dream Theater is great!!!
     by Bernardo Borghetti <borghetti@netgo.com.br>
      6) Houston Ytsenight 3 - Final Details (2nd post)
     by "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@vonl.com>
      7) Re: Streams of Consciousness???
     by AEllis1222@aol.com
      8) Re: Symphony X
     by Mauricio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?= <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
      9) The Idea Of The Century
     by Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
     10) Re: Official word on new DT live CD
     by Mauricio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?= <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
     11) 'jammer Parffit Jim Balsanelli......
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
     12) DT in Hampton Beach
     by "Vince French" <vfrench@sprint.ca>
     13) Guitars that KILL! (Brian Moore Content)
     by "Eugene Szucs" <eeszucs@worldnet.att.net>
     14) East Coast Jammers
     by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <pendragn@netins.net>
     15) Blind Guardian; SX lyrics
     by "Younis Hilal" <yhilal@lightspeed.net>

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:20:40 EDT
    From: Calvin6S@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: 2 CD Live DT packaging
    Message-ID: <be135874.35ae7cb9@aol.com>

    In a message dated 7/16/98 9:13:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ytsejam@ax.com
    writes:

    > Is the new 2CD going to be in a single slot case (like C&C Red Alert and 7th
    > Guest were released in), or a double slot case (like Led Zeppelin
    > Remasters)?
    > I reckon the single slot case would be easier to store - what's other
    > people's views on this?

    Okay, this may seem trivial - but I am BEGGING that it is a single slot case.
    I CAN'T STAND those huge bulky 2 CD slot cases. My CD Tower can accomodate
    these cases - but it makes me ignore my beautiful "ABC" organization scheme
    that I guess just isn't cool :o)

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:43:07 -0400
    From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Stream of Consciousness
    Message-ID: <35AE81FA.6EFA099D@home.com>

    > This is a mike bahr 2cd...
    >
    > has anybody gotten theirs yet?

    Yep. I got mine yesterday (review pending......)

    - Joe D.

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 18:57:16 EDT
    From: Devs0432@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Jones Beach/t-shirts
    Message-ID: <990af685.35ae854d@aol.com>

    BassicRob was jubilant:

    >For those going to the DT/ELP/DP show at Jones Beach Aug 9 I will be going
    >as well. YAY!

    Me too!! Me too! Alright, alright, woohoo, woohoo.......this makes me happy.
    Compared to my fuckup when DT was HEADLINING in New York, and they ran out of
    tickets..grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......................

    On to happier things. At least I'll see them at Jones.

    Oh, and someone was talking about ytsejam shirts. I would really love to have
    one. Does anyone know if there are any left at all? I remember when there
    was a lot of posting about them, but I couldn't at the time b/c I was too
    cautious and broke. Hell, I want one, so I can sport it to that fantastic
    concert to which I am going come August.

    If you have any info, please lemme know!! Thanks tons in advance,

    Alex

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    Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:56:30 +0200
    From: Stefan Eriksson <stefan.eriksson@mindless.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: New prog band
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980717005630.007983e0@m1.174.telia.com>

    Hi all,

    this is from another list run by Greger R=F6nnqvist. I think this might
    interest you all. I hope he doesn't mind this stuff being reproduced here.
    Is=E5fall ber jag om urs=E4kt Greger! (=3D another swedish expression!)

    Stefan E

    2112 - Intro ARGENTINA
                                1997
                                BOLA LOMA
                                BOLA LOMA 001
                                Time: 36 Minutes

    Juan Tambussi (guitar), Sergio Moscatelli (drums), Lucho Passeri
    (bass and vocals) and Adri=E1n Katz (keyboards).

    1-Centrales de Poder (3:35), 2-Souvenir (4:12), 3-451, 4-Desde el
    Trapecio (5:50), 5-Dalo Vuelta, 6-Analog=EDas (3:46), 7-Payasos
    Asesionos del Espacio Exterior (5:21), 8-Libre del Bien y el Mal
    (6:53).

    This is an Argentinean band influenced by RUSH, a little bit
    heavier, with more keyboards, and vocals in Spanish. The music is
    a mixture of RUSH, MEGADETH, and DREAM THEATER. This is really
    good Argentinean progressive hard rock, filled with great
    melodies, skilfully played riffs inspired by the mid-seventies
    progressive/hard rock. The vocals are overall very good, but tend
    to be a little bit thin on the higher notes.

    "Intro" is their second release. Their first, "Alterando Las
    Divisiones", was released in 1989.
    Being a private production it is good but I would have wanted a
    more crisp sound and production in the same style as Dream
    Theater.

    The best track are the instrumental "451". The only bad thing
    about this song is that it is to short. It's a shame that
    musicians of this calibre don't "show off" a little bit more.

    At the moment the band is recording their third CD to be released
    by September 98. I hope the tracks on that album will be a little
    bit longer with more progressive tendencies, and a better
    production.

    But for now, this is an excellent album for every lover of Rush,
    Dream Theater and prog-metal. One of the better progressive hard
    rock bands around today.

    -Reviewed by Greger R=F6nnqvist-

    ______________________________________________

    Stefan Eriksson

    e-mail: stefan.eriksson@mindless.com

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    Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 23:37:07 -0300
    From: Bernardo Borghetti <borghetti@netgo.com.br>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: The proof that Dream Theater is great!!!
    Message-ID: <35A972D1.FC0CD533@netgo.com.br>

        My band's website was doing during the last month a voting to know
    which bands Heaven's Guardian fans like. And guess who wins? Yeah men..
    Dream Theater is the first band on voting. The score is incredible!!!
        Take a look. http://www.netgo.com.br/hg - The Official Heaven's
    Guardian Website.
        The Ranking is there!!!

    See ya!!! Any comments send me an e-mail.

    Bernardo Borghetti
    boghetti@netgo.com.br

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:06:22 -0500
    From: "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@vonl.com>
    To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Houston Ytsenight 3 - Final Details (2nd post)
    Message-ID: <01bdb116$bb5be2c0$1bef5ed1@cmustard.vonl.com>

    - Houston Ytsenight 3 -

    When: Saturday, August 1st, 7pm
    Where: Hard Rock Cafe
    What: Hang out with other jammers from around the area, eat a lot of food,
    discuss music, bring boots/rarities/new bands to show off and check out.
    Note: I will get there early and sign us up for a large table to be able to
    seat 10 or 12 since we don't always know how many are coming until everyone
    gets there.

    That's all for now - hope to see you there!

                - Mark
                   cmustard@vonl.com

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:41:18 EDT
    From: AEllis1222@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com, dantemm@erinet.com
    Subject: Re: Streams of Consciousness???
    Message-ID: <49982a60.35ae9daf@aol.com>

    Hi,
          I was #42, and I just got my copy yesterday.

    Art

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:45:30 -0600
    From: Mauricio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?= <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Symphony X
    Message-ID: <199807170043.TAA45952@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>

    >
    >>Lastly, I think Russ Allen is the best damned vocalist I've heard in years.
    >>Whenever I hear "Phoaroh" (sp) I just run and hide! :-)
    >>
    YEAH! He kinda sang the song in a way that he wanted to scare the shit out
    of the listener.......i think he succeded :) Whenever i hear it, just one
    thing comes to mind: Ancient Egipt. Even if i dindt know the title, it has
    that "Egypt" vibe....that badass Paraoh attitude or something.....

    >
    >That song is the single best song on the album, IMnsHO. The beginning
    >rocks, and the bass work is just cool. The song reminds me of Ptolomy off
    >of Blue Murder's self-titled release. Cool stuff. I drool every time I
    >hear the "groove" section as Russ singe, "Awakened by intruder souls"
    >
    me too!!
    I dont know, but i think that the main riff in "SEa of lies", is the kind
    of kickass riffs that Yngwie never wrote........

    >This song's lyrics rock more than the others -- fewer vague cliches and
    >some cool imagery ("the jackyl screams as my stone gods behold descrators
    >of RA!") make this the coolest egyptian-themed song since Powerslave.
    >Maybe even better!
    >
    >
    What about the 20 minute title song? It s the best on the album! "A
    gathering of angels" rules!!!!
    that was the last song i put attention to.....and the one i like the most
    now.....

    Mauricio

    >--Matt (Desecrators of RAAAA!!)
    >
    >---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >"..." --James LaBrie, "Hell's Kitchen"
    >---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:55:52 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Digital Man <cmerlo@optical.mindstorm.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytse Love-In)
    Subject: The Idea Of The Century
    Message-ID: <199807170055.UAA17841@optical.mindstorm.com>

    This past spring, I took a course on Databases. We spent most of the
    semester learning about the more mundane aspects of managing a
    database, but towards the end of the semester we learned about this
    new trend among businesses -- data mining.

    Essentially, data mining is the process of extracting from a large
    database of information that which is interesting or relevant to
    whatever it is that you do. An example: Let's say you run a
    supermarket. Everything is scanned at the cash register, so you know
    what items are bought at the same time. If 90% of consumers that
    bought corn chips also bought salsa, you would want to know that.
    Data mining techniques figure all that shit out for you, so that you
    can look at a printout and decide to put the salsa and the corn chips
    in the same aisle, thereby increasing sales of both.

    Now imagine that you're a manager at some big-time record store. If
    85% of people that bought the latest Hanson album also bought the
    latest Spice Girls album during the same visit to the store, you would
    try to display the two albums near each other, wouldn't you?

    Now let's say that while looking over the morning data reports,
    something struck your eye: 60% of all Hanson purchases were
    accompanied by a purchase of some band named Dream Theater. Who the
    fuck is Dream Theater? Who cares?!? Display the album up front there
    with those little androgynous brats. More money, more money, more
    money. You don't care what people buy, as long as they buy a lot of
    it during each visit.

    So, here's my idea. The next time you go to the record store to buy a
    DT album, buy some Spice Girls, or Hanson, or whatever's on top of the
    Billboard chart that week. (It doesn't matter if you like it; just
    keep reading.) Don't unwrap the bad cd. Go back to the store a
    couple of days later and explain that you received the CD as a gag
    gift, and you'd like to exchange it for something good. (You may want
    to check first whether the store has such a policy.) As long as you
    paid with cash, they can't trace the purchase back and pair it with
    the DT purchase. Congratulations. You just fucked up a major
    retailer's data collection efforts.

    Now, if enough of us do this (and at big-time record chains), say, by
    buying OIAL ("Oil"?) and the latest Notorious Puff Doggie Rip-off
    Karaoke Thang, G, we could skew some serious amounts of data.

    OK, enough out of me. I'm just an idea man. Someone organize this
    mess. :)

      ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough
      d-man@dreamt.org "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
      cmerlo@mindstorm.com /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
      http://www.dreamt.org/d-man \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:04:23 -0600
    From: Mauricio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?= <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Official word on new DT live CD
    Message-ID: <199807170100.UAA53636@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>

    THANK GOD....uuuhhh...thank MIKE!!!!
    While this is morte than cool.......and the setlist is killer, i was
    wondering:
    why didnt DT drop at least PMU off this cd? I mean, PMU and Metropolis are
    on the LatM live album, so why repeat them? I would have changed PMU for
    New Millenium...or Mirror.....
            Lets hope that they release a video of some of this songs.....and some
    songs that didnt made it........

    Mauricio

    >
    >Hey all,
    >Just spent the week in the studio with Kevin Shirley mixing the live album.
    >Here's the latest details I can give.....
    >
    >Dream Theater - Once in a LIVEtime
    >scheduled release date - Oct. 1998
    >
    >CD1:
    >A Change of Seasons Pt.1 & 2
    >Puppies On Acid
    >Just Let Me Breathe
    >Voices
    >Take The Time
    >Keyboard solo
    >Lines In The Sand
    >Scarred
    >A Change of Seasons Pt.4
    >Ytse Jam
    >Drum solo
    >
    >CD2:
    >Trial of Tears
    >Hollow Years
    >Take Away My Pain
    >Caught in a Web
    >Lie
    >Peruvian Skies
    >Guitar solo
    >Pull Me Under
    >Metropolis Pt.1
    >Learning To Live
    >A Change of Seasons Pt.7
    >
    >
    >Can't wait for you all to hear it.....
    >Also, It looks as if we might have an accompanying video as well...
    >More details as I have them.....
    >
    >Mike Portnoy
    >

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:38:17 -0400
    From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
    To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: 'jammer Parffit Jim Balsanelli......
    Message-ID: <35AEAB09.247459C4@home.com>

    Do any of you 'jammers know (either personally, or via e-mail chatting
    or whatever) Parffit Jim Balsanelli?
    He's a fellow Ytsejammer from Brazil (or actually, former - he unsubbed
    several months back due to time constraints).

    Anyways, I normally talk (via e-mail) with him several times a week, and
    I haven't heard from the guy since
    May (very odd - he didn't mention being away, or getting rid of his
    comp. or anything). I'm just really curious if he's off the 'Net, or
    what the hell happened.

    Thanks,
    - Joe D. (kinda bummed, because Parffit is/was an awesome guy to talk
    to about music, and everything else)

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:24:49 -0400
    From: "Vince French" <vfrench@sprint.ca>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: DT in Hampton Beach
    Message-ID: <01bdb12a$127f0920$352267d1@vincefrench>

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    Hey jammers,

    What's up? I just bought my tickets for the August 4th show in Hampton =
    Beach, NH. Is anyone else here going? Let me know, maybe we could meet =
    up before, and hang out, go for a few beer, whatever. You can email me =
    directly at vfrench@sprint.ca. Talk to you later.

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    3D Animator/Music Composer
    Impact Consulting
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    (613) 746-4100

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:57:55 -0400
    From: "Eugene Szucs" <eeszucs@worldnet.att.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Guitars that KILL! (Brian Moore Content)
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        I have to see I have mixed feelings about today, dear friends! I =
    plopped down a down payment on a Brian Moore C-90, with some custom =
    work, and I don't know if I'm being a smart investor or a certifiable =
    six string idiot! I have yearned after one of tehse guitars for over =
    six years (basically their conception), but until this great "Special =
    Customer" discount sale at my music store came up, I never really =
    contemplated it till now. For our non-guitar readers, these axes are =
    basically Ferrari's of the guitar industry! =20
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    few hundred of my closest internedt buddies, I guess! I personally =
    can't keep my hands off the BM's at my local store, and I think it'll go =
    hand in hand with my Strat Plus Deluxe, which I've had for eight years =
    or so! But any of you axe slingers with words of encouragement or scorn =
    are welcome to discuss these instruments with me, and your experience =
    with them! For all I know, there are probably a few of you in here that =
    have one!
        How expensive is mine, you ask? Probably enough to send me sleeping =
    on the street in the next few months if I don't scrape together enough =
    Ben Franklin's in the twelve month duration while it's being made! =20

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:58:49 -0500
    From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <pendragn@netins.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: East Coast Jammers
    Message-ID: <002c01bdb12e$d3145920$010aa8c0@camelot.netins.net>

    Hello All,
    I might very well be moving out to the DC area in the next couple of weeks,
    Vienna Virginia to be exact, and I was wonderin' how many DC area jammers
    there were. I won't know a lot of people so I thought this might be a way
    for me to make some friends. Drop me a line if you're from around there.

    tk

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    Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:04:56 +0000
    From: "Younis Hilal" <yhilal@lightspeed.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Blind Guardian; SX lyrics
    Message-ID: <199807170234.TAA13572@lsbsdi1.lightspeed.net>

    > From: "Kouroumalis V. CSM BSc/Computing 2" <Vassilios.Kouroumalis@csm.uwe.ac.uk>
    > Subject: Blind Guardian
    >
    > To answer the question about Blind Guardian:
    > Yes,Oliver of Sieges Even did record all bass on NightFall In Middle-Earth of Blind Guardian, replacing Hansi Kursch because he wanted to concentrate on his vocals.Judging from the vocals in NiME, an
    > Grabbing the opportunity to talk about my second favourite band of all time:
    > If you are a JRR Tolkien fan and have especially liked "Silmarillion" get NiME. The music is more than excellent,and most importantly the Guardians managed to get the book's atmosphere out greatly an
    Thanks for the info, dude. I went ahead and ordered it from cdnow
    last night. And yes, I do like my Tolkien, and yes, I did like
    Silmarillion, so I'll prolly dig this CD quite a bit.

    To the guy who was complaining about SX's "Castlevania"-type lyrics:
    that Dungeons & Dragons shit is a damn sight better than anything
    else to draw lyrics from IMO. I don't know what type of lyrics
    you're into, but I just dislike pretty much all other lyrical sources
    (like relationships shit, love/hate shit, introspective shit, "My
    girlfiend dumped me and the bank's gonna take away my ranch" shit,
    etc.). I guess there's people out there who can relate to that
    stuff, though. Well, to each his own.

    What the hell does SX need lyrics for, anyway? Their instrumental
    sections are just fine.

    Younis Hilal--------------------yhilal@lightspeed.net
                   AKA "YoonDog"

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