YTSEJAM Digest 4095
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Portnoy clinic charges???
by marshallm@juno.com (Mike Marshall)
2) Re: favorite keyboard solos ?
by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
3) ICP
by "Stanich, Matt" <Mstanich@AMPSYS.COM>
4) Computer Security Requirements
by "Northstar Technologies, Inc." <nstar@ideola.com>
5) Review of one song off Dave Weckl's new release, "Rhythm of the Soul" (LONG)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4094
by Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
7) Eargasms for all!
by AL <al@isd.net>
8) Re: buzz jam/ 3733t
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
9) Re: Review of one song off Dave Weckl's new release, "Rhythm of
by Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4094
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4093
by "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com>
12) Re: Aztec Jade
by OmegaMusic@aol.com
13) stop that the best solo business
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
14) Re: Subthread: Bass Solos
by "M. Dixon" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com>
15) Re: Eargasms for all!
by "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com>
16) Laser's Edge, etc.
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:51:58 -0500
From: marshallm@juno.com (Mike Marshall)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Portnoy clinic charges???
Message-ID: <19980723.145207.-186021.0.marshallm@juno.com>
I just found out that the 7/27 clinic at Mom's in Louisville, KY is $5
also.
Hey, if that's what it takes to keep all the people who have nothing
better to do on a Monday night than take up space at the clinic, that's
fine with me.
BTW, are any 'Jammers going to the Louisville clinic? If so, e-mail
me and we'll meet up there.
Later,
Michael
marshallm@juno.com
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 someone looking remarkably
like AEllis1222@aol.com wrote:
>
><<<None of the
>clinics thus far have been charging admission,>>>
>
>Both of the New Hampshire clinics were $5
>
>~~Arr
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 22:11:31 +0200
From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: favorite keyboard solos ?
Message-ID: <v01510101b1dcb6cc7fc2@[194.7.245.15]>
On last night's episode of the Ytsejam you wrote:
>Hi there
>
>I would like to start a new survey. I don't think this was disccussed before.
>The question is : What are your favorite keyboard solos of all time ?
>
Might as well jump on this bandwagon:
KevMo: TTT, UAGM, Ytsejam
Rudess: EVERYTHING !!!
Derek Sherinian: the intro for The Killing Hand on the HY single, not for
the solo
itself, but for its sound.
Rodney Franklin: The Groove (cool piano stuff, check it out!)
Geddy Lee: Xanadu
Eddie Van Halen: Jump
L8R
FiveNgroK
CP: Magellan - Test Of Wills
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:14:27 -0400
From: "Stanich, Matt" <Mstanich@AMPSYS.COM>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ICP
Message-ID: <413DD6A82453D111B1A0080009D9F1DD1B672D@ampsys.com>
Jason wrote:
>NP: "Bugz on my Nugz" - ICP
Hey, someone on this list listens to (or has heard of) ICP. For all you
who have not heard these guys they are extremely funny, I suggust you
all try to give it a listen sometime. As a disclaimer it is rap, so its
not something I could spend days listening to, and I'm not gonna play it
for a hot date, but it's a riot once in a while. BTW Jason, where you
from? I'm from Ann Arbor, Mi, so ICP is close to home. Anyhoo dont want
to waste any more space with all this usless ndtc so I'll leave, bye-
Matt Stanich (Scan That Mit)
"There was no time for pain
No energy for anger
The sightlessness of hatred slips away
Walking through winter streets alone
He stops and takes a breath
With confidence and self control"
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:25:17 -0500
From: "Northstar Technologies, Inc." <nstar@ideola.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>, Wayne Sueltz <wsueltz@dal.triaddata.com>,
Subject: Computer Security Requirements
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980723162421.0072c7e8@ideola.com>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 20:49:17 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Review of one song off Dave Weckl's new release, "Rhythm of the Soul" (LONG)
Message-ID: <35B7A1CD.3CE1@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
If you're a prog-metal-only head or just don't like jazz, you most
certainly will want to skip this post.
If you enjoy jazz, various members of the Saxophone family, the Fretless
Bass, that Electric Rhodes keyboard sound, have heard Frank Gambale
amaze you on Guitar or Dave own you on Drums, you may still want to skip
this post; but go out and buy the disc anyways :) (Adam 'Sociology Bud'
Barnhardt, are you still on the list? Yeah, Dave is still a quite scary
drummer :)
There's actually quite a variety of musical genres represented on the
disc including R&B, fusion, funk, straight ahead jazz, and a song that
might remind you a little of the Mission Impossible tune.
My favorite tune so far is Someone's Watching. From the liner notes,
Dave says:
"[Working title: 'Sting'], as is reminiscent and perhaps a bit inspired
by one of his sultry jazz melodies. This is a mood piece which was
written around a continuous, hypnotic keyboard motif. Frank Gambale
plays some great stuff on 12-string electric guitar and a wonderfully
tasteful 'sitar' solo. Very fitting for this cool vibe, hope you like
it!"
The sax definitely gives it that 'Sting' kinda feel (DTC: I also hear
simliarities with the end of Another Day. Not surprising they'd sound
similiar, it's a sop sax and Jay Beckenstein is considered a jazz
musician). Dave is so humble he doesn't mention himself, so I will.
There's some cymbal work in there which I can only describe as magical.
The sound of the fretless bass on this tune is sweet! There's no
question about this being a mood piece. You'll go "Sting? Who's that?"
afterwards... or sooner ;)
The slowest song on the disc, they pick it up a little towards the
middle after the sitar solo, modulate (hope that's the right word :) a
few times, then take it back down and the song leaves as quietly as it
arrived. It's just a 5 1/2 minute soothing, goose-bump inducing, hook;
yet the song could go on for another 10 minutes and I wouldn't tire of
it.
Some will just not be all that impressed with the song, dismissing it as
too simplistic. For me at least, this is such a well constructed song
from start to finish. Throughout it shows how very few notes played in a
particular measure can still make a song work. There's all kinds of
little things going on in there with accenting and trading off where one
instrument will be up front in the mix. That is what has always
impressed about jazz musicians: their uncanny control of volume and the
ability to play off each other. (DTC: The guys in DT exhibit this
ability. Is this something they teach at jazz schools?)
Yeah, there are more upbeat, higher speed, kick ass grooves elsewhere on
the disc (Big B Little B is a song where you'll find Dave going nuts for
a couple of minutes. But Someone's Watching completely takes over me,
and without so much as one lyric! Oh wait, there aren't any lyrics on
the whole disc :)
His web page has more info on the new disc (somewhere inside
http://www.daveweckl.com/indexdw.htm). Looks like he's doing some
clinics.
Regards,
Jon
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:49:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4094 Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95q.980723164246.1619B-100000@laguerre.math.uwaterloo.ca>
On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > What does 3733t mean?? > > hacker slang for eleet (elite - good :). but i believe it's 31337. No, i'm > not. :) Moo.
I think you either mean warez-dood/cracker-wannabe/loser slang. Generally only little kids on IRC use that kind of terminology. (I've never heard a hacker call someone "l337"/"elite"/whatever except maybe as an insult...)
Oh, and DT rules. :)
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:52:09 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Eargasms for all! Message-ID: <35B7A279.E8ACEFA2@isd.net>
I have not heard much mentioned about Vanden Plas here on the jam. To refresh your memory, Vanden Plas was one of DT's supporting acts for the European FII tour. These guys are awesome! If you have not heard Vanden Plas yet, treat yourself to a listen. Download this MP3 file from VP's home page. Go to the sound samples section and download "You Fly." Here's the link: http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~goebel/vp/ Use Internet Explorer to grab the file, Netscape may give you a little trouble with MP3 files. If you don't have an MP3 player, and you are using a Pentium class processor, download Winamp 1.9 here. http://www.winamp.com/main.html Seriously, these guys rock... Kinda reminiscent of DT's I&W stuff.
Dammit, don't just keep scrolling.... Download that MP3. NOW! Yeah I'm talking to YOU.
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:52:10 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: buzz jam/ 3733t Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980723165210.007a8cc0@pop3.afn.org>
>3) At the beginning there was an annoying buzz in the PA. Being the >creative guy he is, he made a Buzz Jam. =)
"Can you hear that? You hear that buzz?"
"Yeah I do, Vic."
"What is it? Can you get rid of it?"
"Um, um, ain't it the end of the record?"
"Yeah, but, I tell ya-- if you can't get rid of it, just make it groove."
"Comin' at ya there."
Oh, and 3733t is lamer-talk for eleet, or elite, as in software-pirates who actually think it's real cool.
- "Trust no one. Kill everyone" (Milluminati Psycho). http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:58:22 +0000 From: Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Review of one song off Dave Weckl's new release, "Rhythm of Message-ID: <01IZQUR8181U8WW6SL@carleton.edu>
> If you're a prog-metal-only head or just don't like jazz, you most > certainly will want to skip this post.
ditto on this post. i just wanted to add another endorsement of this fine musical product. actually, i bought it because someone right here on the jam mentioned it, so i know there are at least 3 of us who own this sucker. anyway, even if all you are is a raging prog-head, you should try to broaden your horizons by picking this album up. there's definitely a lot of musicianship going on here.
i'd have to say my favorite track is the first one, called "the zone". like the title implies, this thing just flat out grooves. plus, dave sends out props to ringo starr in the liner notes...
enough out of me. back to fixing tv's. bah. id
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:19:00 -0400 From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4094 Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980723171900.006aa0d0@mail.clemson.edu>
>I think you either mean warez-dood/cracker-wannabe/loser slang. Generally >only little kids on IRC use that kind of terminology. (I've never heard a >hacker call someone "l337"/"elite"/whatever except maybe as an insult...)
oh, right, i wasn't touching the subject of real/wannabe hackers, just what it refered to. :) Hey, they said it in Hackers. And you know that movie was realistic as hell... :)
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 00:49:05 +0200 From: "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4093 Message-ID: <01bdb68c$182fbba0$208535d4@schnipp>
Hi, I got one of the DT winamp skins. When I tried to follow the instructiond (I mean I did) it didn't work. Can sb mail me how it works? schnipp
NP Symphony X-In the dragon's den
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:47:43 EDT From: OmegaMusic@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Aztec Jade Message-ID: <78009d4c.35b7bd90@aol.com>
Tim, these guys are a local band from here in Albany and are heavy prog...very much like DT. Solid musicians! I recommend them wholeheartedly.
Gonz
In a message dated 98-07-22 17:15:49 EDT, you write:
<< Has anyone heard of Aztec Jade? I heard a sound clip of them and they sounded pretty good. Is it worth it getting their latest CD? Thanks, Tim >>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:05:27 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: stop that the best solo business Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980723230527.00687218@unet.univie.ac.at>
everybody has his/her own opinion about the best solo, which is very individual. i prefer orgasm like solos, and melodic solos, such as david gilmour provides us with, BUT WHO CARES!!!!! so stop filling the digests (and my trashbox) with that boring best solo, best instrumental stuff, just lets talk about the solos individually, if you want. why someone likes this one, why someone dislikes that.. im getting bored reading Re: BEST F*+# i have ever had ;) but, talknig about it already i think most of the best solos ever produced on earth do come from gilmour, especially on animals! :)
could someone help me to find the mp3 version of eve (one that really is LOCATED somewhere :-| )
although i dislike the idea of transferring music on to other instruments i really enjoyed listening to ytsejam for piano, this one really rocks!
does anyone know if there are hats with the old DRE/\M The/\TER logo on them still available? and i would love to have a tattoo with the majesty logo, but tattooing is so final. so how about a 1 day throw away sticker tattoo? (just kiddin) i dont like the hats someone offers on his page since the logo is not original, so if anyone knows, thanks!
and remember, soloing is great, but doesnt make a great song!!!!!! (oh damn, im talking shit, i really adore Racer X, so fuck songs....)
DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?)
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 16:51:59 PDT From: "M. Dixon" <appoggiatura@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Subthread: Bass Solos Message-ID: <19980723235200.12981.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 07:59:44 -0700 (PDT) >Reply-To: ytsejam@ax.com >From: "Steven Dob" <brachett@hotmail.com> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Subthread: Bass Solos > >Bass Solos . . . an interesting subthread . . . one comes to mind. We >all know of Billy Sheehan. He was with a band called Talas a while back, >and they released a live album. I can't remember the name, but he did a >solo on there that blew my mind. I mean, had to change my shorts and >everything. The solo was sheehan spelled backwards - something like >na43345 i think. I haven't been able to ifnd that album, but the music >stores aorund here aren't all they are cracked up to be. Any comments? > Actually the title of this tune he mentioned is NV43345. The album is "The Talas Years" By Billy Sheehan. The cassette upc code is 8856110204 just in case any of you might want to order it from your local music store. The transcription actually appeared in an issue of Guitar-For-The-Practicing-Musician (I have it, Sorry, no trades on this one).
As for Fave Bass Solos: 1) Anything by Stuart Hamm including his Vai, Satriani, and Solo album work. 2) Billy Sheehan's bass work on Eat'em and Smile by David Lee Roth. It absolutely RIPS ASS!!! And don't forget his Mr.Big songs like "Addicted To That Rush". 3) Any and all John Myung basswork. (not many solos to choose from, eh?)
As for Fave Key Solos: 1) Space-Dye Vest and Eve, of which, I consider some of the best DT-piano compositions/KevMo stuff around. 2) Derek Sherinian's work in "A Change Of Seasons" 3) Any of Jen's Johannsens(sp) sizable catalog with Yngwie Malmsteen.
All of this of course is IMO. So There!
POJ =)
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 20:52:56 -0400 From: "Kez" <kez@spectrum-internet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Eargasms for all! Message-ID: <00d201bdb69d$6648a700$1c19efce@kezcom>
> >I have not heard much mentioned about Vanden Plas here on the jam. >To refresh your memory, Vanden Plas was one of DT's supporting acts >for the European FII tour. These guys are awesome! If you have not heard >Vanden Plas yet, treat yourself to a listen. Download this MP3 file from VP's >home page. Go to the sound samples section and download "You Fly." >Here's the link: http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~goebel/vp/ >Use Internet Explorer to grab the file, Netscape may give you a little >trouble with MP3 files. If you don't have an MP3 player, and you are >using a Pentium class processor, download Winamp 1.9 here. >http://www.winamp.com/main.html >Seriously, these guys rock... Kinda reminiscent of DT's I&W stuff. > >Dammit, don't just keep scrolling.... Download that MP3. NOW! >Yeah I'm talking to YOU. > >-- >See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist >
Been there, done that. Get Rainmaker also. From Mosh's site. It kicks MAJOR ass. http://progmetal.gmsnet.com/audio_europe.html
Then go to PendragonUSA and buy the CD(The God Thing) for the cheapest price on the net(that I found). http://www.pendragonusa.com/index3.html
You will thank me for it. Kez
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 20:55:40 -0400 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Laser's Edge, etc. Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980724005540.0075bc18@pop.pipeline.com>
Someone asked a two-part question about the Laser's Edge Cd store. Reliable? Yes. Quick? No. Maybe it's because I placed orders with a credit card (he has some ridiculous policy about only taking c/c for orders over a certain amount, which surely violates the law), but I had to wait about two months for each of the orders I placed. He isn't going to rip you off, but you might wait awhile.
Speaking of cds from the Laser's Edge, I got my shipment the other day. Included were:
Watchtower - Energetic Disassembly
Well, this is not as good as "Control and Resistance" - IMO. The singing is not as good (Jason McMaster vs. Alan Tecchio), the guitar-playing isn't as good (Billy White vs. Ron Jarozembek), and the songs suffer. Overall, it's not too bad...
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle-Earth
I think some people have already reviewed this. I like it, but anytime you have a 60+ minute cd based on one concept, you are talking art vs. casual music. The music is lush and thick, but the lyrical content in odd - fantasy- based, and sometimes those German accents make me laugh. Eye-Ron for iron. That sorta thing. I am not sure I like this disc as much as "Imaginations from the Other Side," but time will tell.
Conception - The Last Sunset
Boy, do I like Conception. This band is just outstanding. The guitar work is exceptional. I have all the rest of Conception's cds, and this is no disappointment. Each cd has its own character. Especially note-worthy is track ten. I don't have the case handy, so I can't tell you, but it's ten minutes of prog metal heaven.
Mercury Rising - Building Rome
Whoa! I thought "Upon Deaf Ears" wasn't bad, but it seemed a bit bland and derivative. Clarence's vocals were in too high a register, and he sounded like the dude from the first Toxik album. The guitars were non-descript and I could barely sit through the cd in one sitting. This is the opposite. I cannot get this cd out of the cd player. The recording is crystal clear. Where did they record this? In Maryland? Mike Blevins, take Division to this studio, and hire this producer. The guitar tones are brilliant. Clarence has kept his forays into the stratosphere to a minimum, and he shows a nice middle range that complements the music. Their use of dynamics is much-improved. I have to say that I wasn't expecting much from this cd - I had seen them recently live (down one guitarist) and I couldn't really grasp the new material. This has been the best surprise of the year, and if they don't watch out - the best cd of the year.
Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
Detroit Red Wings 1996-97, 1997-98 Stanley Cup Champions
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