YTSEJAM Digest 4088
Today's Topics:
1) Re: "Ytsejam for classical piano" mp3
by marshallm@juno.com (Mike Marshall)
2) re: FII singles
by "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
3) traders and such
by "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
4) communication
by Rossano Spagnuolo <f.spagnuolo@fg.nettuno.it>
5) Re: favorite keyboard solos ?
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
6) Re: communication
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
7) Re: communication
by "John E. Martin" <jem@lainet.com>
8) Marshalls, Savatage, and Trading - Oh My!
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
9) Re: bad traders list
by MentolPyro@aol.com
10) Re: bad traders list
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
11) Re: Big or small CD-box?
by jogopogo@freemail.nl
12) Technical question about RealAudio
by "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
13) favorite keyboard solos ?
by "Juan Francisco Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4087
by DOPDAT@aol.com
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4087
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
16) Re:why arent there more singles of fii
by Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at>
17) Re: favorite keyboard solos ?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
18) Re: what is it about DT?????
by Joengkie <joengkie@dark4ce.com>
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:37:36 -0500
From: marshallm@juno.com (Mike Marshall)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: "Ytsejam for classical piano" mp3
Message-ID: <19980721.114043.19574.3.marshallm@juno.com>
If you any of you haven't checked this out, you owe it to yourself to
download this file. It is incredible!
M.
On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Bungle
<mrbungle@speed.eik.bme.hu> writes:
>
>Hi there,
>
>check out my Ytsejam cover for piano at:
>http://www.icon.hu/~serenity
>under the "gift" frame... an let me know your opinion.
>
>Cheers,
>Bungle
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:07:13 -0400
From: "Pat Sullivan" <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: FII singles
Message-ID: <199807211701.NAA01098@bajor.ici.net>
> I keep asking myself this question for some time. FII is by far the
> most commercial album of DT and DT wanted to attract a new fanbase. So
> why did they release only one single off FII?
Another concern that both the fans and the band had was that their
longer songs wouldn't be "radio-friendly" enough. But just recently,
the Tool song "Eulogy" was released, and other than blipping the
swears the song is unedited. So what we have is a 9 minute song
that is (around here anyway) in fairly heavy rotation. And don't
forget that Tool is not really an "established" band, Aenima is
essentially their "breakout" album.
Just goes to show that it *is* possible to thumb your nose at the
system, and still be successful within it. Just wish DT's label was
willing to take risks like that.
__Pat Sullivan________________
Email: psull@just-like.nu
WWW: http://www.just-like.nu
ICQ: 2049374
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:19:12 -0800
From: "Nowik, George" <NowikG@data-io.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: traders and such
Message-ID: <C7EA264064ACD011BE4500805FC1DCA101B8C9A3@SATURN.nt.data-io.com>
For the record, I recently participated in Calvin6S's purchase of
tabulature books that he ordered for a number of people from Japan. He
kept us all updated as to the status every time he received email from
Japan, let us know when the books were on the way to him, and then let
us know when they were shipped to us. His shipping notice came to me
just three days before the books arrived on my doorstep. Efficient and
honest. Nuff said. I've done a couple trades now and I know that I
screwed one up because time grabbed me by the boo-boo (Matt, if you're
reading this, I'm still very sorry for the delay in the video tape. Let
me know if it got to you after all that), but Calvin is as decent and
honest as they get from what I can tell so far. I'd trade with him
again.
-= norg =-
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:57:39 +0200
From: Rossano Spagnuolo <f.spagnuolo@fg.nettuno.it>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: communication
Message-ID: <35B62813.BDC9023C@fg.nettuno.it>
i don' want receive your mail never again.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:07:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: favorite keyboard solos ?
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980721104815.23999B-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Arash Ashouriha wrote:
>
>Hi there
>
>I would like to start a new survey. I don't think this was disccussed before.
>The question is : What are your favorite keyboard solos of all time ?
Hrm... Well, I really love the following solos:
Light Fuse and Get Away -- 4:28 - 5:05
ACOS (pre-EP) -- 13:14 - 13:41 (time taken from Antiquities)
ACOS (EP) -- 18:50 - 19:24 (same solo space, different "take" on it)
Mind Drive (Yes) -- the last keyboard solo
Firth of Fifth (Genesis) -- all solos (awesome piece!)
Perhaps I should add my fav vocal moments (for no apparent reason except
to fill more space):
"I think it's time for a change" from the TTT demo (Silent Man single)
"I laugh at what I've done to you/I am the killing hand" from John Arch's
vocal demo of TKH.
"On to Hell!" from Gates of Delerium (Yes, Relayer)
"I guess it's just a feeling" from This City Never Sleeps (Eurythmics,
Sweet Dreams Are Made of This)
"I had a dream, I was you" from Guardian (Fates Warning, Awaken the
Guardian)
That's probably too many, but they achieve full goosebump mode on me every
time, as much as the cool keyboard solos, or more.
--Matt
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:08:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: communication
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980721110741.23999C-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Rossano Spagnuolo wrote:
>
>i don' want receive your mail never again.
>
And you'll never recieve it never again. It's always with you, like a
cancer or a cousin that thinks you're cool.
--Matt doesn't not like double negatives.
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"..." --James LaBrie, "Hell's Kitchen"
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:18:01 -0700
From: "John E. Martin" <jem@lainet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: communication
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980721111801.0074ee20@lainet.com>
At 11:14 AM 7/21/98 some idiot with the intelligence of the hair on an
ape's ass wrote:
>i don' want receive your mail never again.
There's this wonderful new thing... We call it an unsuscribe service.
Basically, you send an email like the shit you just bombarded us with to
someone and tell them the lamest thing like you just told us, and they take
you off the list. Believe it or not, it's all automated now, so no one has
to look at your lame ass message.
Hey, how about we force this guy into bounce mode? =)
*kicking soap box out from under my own feet* I'm done ranting.
-sp00L
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:18:11 -0400
From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Marshalls, Savatage, and Trading - Oh My!
Message-ID: <413835162AC9CF11AE9602070116CC5E8D471E@amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
Arash wrote...
>
> Well, I always check my info.
> Some months ago in EMP magazin there was a 4 page tour report
> and interview with Savatage.
>
> Jon Olive said that they've record the concert in Colone
> (Koeln) and will
> release a live 2CD and video in EUROPE later this year.
> That's what he said.
OK, that's what he said. That's not what is happening, though - According to
last report, there'll be a video in the Spring of 1999. No mention of a live
CD, though - not that I wouldn't like to hear it!
Then again, with 'Tage, things are always flexible...
>
> NP : Angra - Lisbon (... the skies are falling down)
>
Bastard. I can't get one of these yet... :)
Scott - that Ataxia guy - Andrews wrote...
>
> According to Todd Beachler:
> >
> >
> > A couple of jams ago someone discussed the JMP-1 and said
> that the tubes are
> > there just for look and that the "real" distortion came
> from a solid state
> > circuit. Just making sure that's what was said. BTW who
> was this? They
>
> actually, what they said was the exact opposite - the real
> distortion does come from two 12ax7 tubes running at full
> voltage. Mike Blevins said it, he has a JMP-1 in his rack.
Well, yeah, last time I checked. :) I was involved in this discussion, and I
still think he's talking about the ADA MP-1, rather than the Marshall JMP-1.
I even went so far as to take my tubes out, to validate his claim, and the
preamp wouldn't even turn on. I do know that Marshall claims the tubes are
high voltage, and the thing gets quite warm... :)
And I don't care. No MIDI preamp I've heard - for under $1000 - sounds
better. I'm not a snob, I just like things that sound good. Like Engls...
(You wanna talk about expensive?)
>
> marshall JCM 900s used some solid state parts to provide some
> of the distortion, since this design did not get really crunchy
> until you cranked it up.
Yeah, I kinda wondered about that. The 900 was a pretty funky amp.
>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:06:28 EDT
> From: Toneadd9@aol.com
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: bad traders list
> Message-ID: <8f3f7e2f.35b4ae75@aol.com>
>
>
>
> u can add CALVIN6S to that list!!!
>
Does anyone else smell another Al vs. Pat coming on here? :)
Mike
Division
NP: "Holy Land" - Angra
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:23:47 EDT
From: MentolPyro@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: bad traders list
Message-ID: <c6176eed.35b4dcb4@aol.com>
i wouldn't have said anything cuz i'm not involved , but tone's response:
<<u can add CALVIN6S to that list!!!>>
is the dumbest rebuttle (SP), if you will, i've read since i joined (around
4010). I realize that's only about 75 digests, but that's MANY more posts,
and i have to say that tone's defense was just so juvenile, i HAD to point it
out.
after hearing shit like that, i'd second calvin's warning to stay away from
this ass
more DTC (politically correct material) next time
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:50:32 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: bad traders list
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980721154929.14216A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 Toneadd9@aol.com wrote:
> u can add CALVIN6S to that list!!!
If you can't tell why, do you still expect people to take your
words seriously?
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:52:40 GMT From: jogopogo@freemail.nl To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Big or small CD-box? Message-ID: <199807211852.SAA04048@freesrv3.freemail.nl>
Hello, fellow DT-enthousiasts,
Here's a little message from the Netherlands. About those CD-boxes: I've purchased the Japanese version of FII, witch contains an extra mini-CD just stuck away between the booklet. Here in Holland we can buy empty CD-boxes, I don't know if you can get them in record-stores overthere. Obviously not. I've just placed the booklet and the rear cover in a new, empty, small size double CD-case, and voila, there we have a double CD the size of a normal CD. Clever eh? Well, that's my advise for now. By the way, does anyone know when there's gonna be a next European DT-tour???(esp. in Holland)
See ya in da Jam, JogoPogo
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:01:15 -0800 From: "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Technical question about RealAudio Message-ID: <199807211902.MAA18968@baygate.bayarea.net>
I have a question for all you computer audio experts out there. What is the best way to record a RealAudio broadcast, for example a broadcast from liveconcerts.com? (I know that some of you have recorded stuff from liveconcerts, so there must be a way to do it.) I considered buying RealPlayer Plus, because it has a "record" feature. However, when I called RealPlayer customer service with some technical questions, they told me that the RealPlayer Plus will *not* record copyrighted broadcasts. Are the liveconcerts (and other RealAudio) broadcasts copyrighted? If so, what product other than RealPlayer Plus do you use for recording?
Of course, the simplest solution would be to just hook up my tape deck to my computer and record on good old Maxell XLII 90's, but I'd rather record to my hard drive if possible.
Please respond by private e-mail.
Paul
----------- Paul Humm humm@levy.com
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:41:02 -0500 From: "Juan Francisco Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: favorite keyboard solos ? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980721144102.0079eea0@sysop.com.mx>
>I would like to start a new survey. I don't think this was disccussed before. >The question is : What are your favorite keyboard solos of all time ?
Time and a Word (KTA-2) by Rick Wakeman also check his Greatest hits (2CD)!
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:56:03 EDT From: DOPDAT@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4087 Message-ID: <f2bec07c.35b4f254@aol.com>
Hey Todd....you want to know what's in jp's gtr rack? don't listen to anyone else's bullsh*t, just ask someone who knows......i 've been mixing the band for seven years......
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:12:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4087 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980721131101.24623A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 21 Jul 1998 DOPDAT@aol.com wrote:
> >Hey Todd....you want to know what's in jp's gtr rack? don't listen to anyone >else's bullsh*t, just ask someone who knows......i 've been mixing the band >for seven years...... >
Annnnnnnnnnd? DopeDat? DahpDat? How do you pronounce that? XDTVOC1 is better -- easier to understand.
Let's go thru the motto again. Prove it.
--Matt (too stupid to believe the obscure, too smart to believe the obvious) ^_^
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:22:11 +0200 From: Manuel <a9700302@unet.univie.ac.at> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:why arent there more singles of fii Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980721202211.0068ef50@unet.univie.ac.at>
> >I keep asking myself this question for some time. FII is by far the most >commercial album of DT and DT wanted to attract a new fanbase. So why >did they release only one single off FII? And why asking Desmond Child >to make the song You not me more radio friendly while not giving it a >change??? I think that song would do well as a single. Other >possibility: Peruvian Skies; this would attract Pink Floyd fans and >Metallica fans! > >So why bothering all those commercial songs on FII, while releasing only >one of them as a single? I think a majority of the DT fans rather hear >more progressive songs, like I do. I think Metropolis II will do ;)
not giving a change to ynm is wrong. there is a change, quite an enourmos one, i like you or me better, it was more original, same with tamp, which sounded like one of dts future masterpieces as a demo. it had a real floyd (the wall) touch and great instrumentation.it really caught the feeling of a crying boy who was losing his father so that everytime i listen to that i shiver. not to say now that the album version is worse, it still has that feeling in it, but a lot is lost of the original pathos on the demo. still, since its simplified on the album it makes it very attractive, surely one of the highlights of fii, which undoubtedly has radio compatibilty. its true they should release more singles and especially should have a lokk to get airplay, (but please not on eMpTyV... :< ) which makes them more popular, so that they can return from where they came from, real PROGRESSIVE music, which we the fans love to hear. dont get me wrong, fii is great (partly...) and twiutb is also a masterpiece (why did they ban it from the album??? couldnt they have kicked bms and jlmb instead?) blahblahblahblah to come to an end i mailbomb all austrian radio stations to play dt, so maybe they will one day, do the same in your country!
DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?)
DRYHEAT (...in Houston they say that?)
~~~~~~ wanna see Dryheat in action? check oout http://www.arkadenhoffest.at never forget http://members.aon.com/festl
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:26:09 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: favorite keyboard solos ? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980721172501.15178A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Juan Francisco Quintero wrote:
> >I would like to start a new survey. I don't think this was disccussed before. > >The question is : What are your favorite keyboard solos of all time ? > > Time and a Word (KTA-2) by Rick Wakeman
Really beautiful song/solo (I mean, the whole song). Even though I have problems with him, I recognize that he has outdone himself here...
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:33:21 -0500 From: Joengkie <joengkie@dark4ce.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: what is it about DT????? Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980721203321.006b8ad4@dark4ce.com>
I started listening to DT about 2.5 years ago; I used to listen a lot to Dire Straits, than my brother gave me the Marillion compilation cd, The Singles Collection and at first I just listened to the mainstream songs on there (keyleigh, lavender, basicly all of them except the other fish-songs on that cd) and I used to skip Garden Party and Assassins. After a while though, I just stared to listen to these songs as well, and they turned out to be my favorites. Than my brother gave me The Thieving Magpie, and I really had to listen many times to it before I liked it. Than I borrowed Live at the Marquee, my brother told me that it was 'like Marillion, but than a little harder'. I knew Dream Theater from Another Day, from Rock Ballads, a compilation cd we had. Surrounded was an instant favorite and I didn't like the other songs on the cd initially. After I got sick of Surrounded, I started playing the other songs more, but I still didn't like 'em. I went to Canada, and I bought Images and Words because it was cheap and because Surrounded and Another Day were on there. I liked Take the Time better, the more I played it, especially the end. same thing goes for Metropolis, where I initially only liked the end. One at the time, I appreciated these songs better and better although I have to say that Pull me Under is still not one of my favorites. At the same time, I got all the Marillion/Fish albums and got addicted to them.
personally, I like the ballads the best; I think that songs like Surrounded, Another Day and till a lesser degree Silent Man and Ana Lee are the best material they wrote. Of the harder songs, I really like Take the Time, Learniong to Live and The Mirror. I also thought that the Elton John cover (Funeral for a Friend) was awsome.
I think that I&W is still the best album; the songs are long and all seem to have some sort of 'climax'. This is what I missed most on FII, which was also good but somehow I was a little disappointed. Awake is good, better than FII, because it has a lot of hard songs, but I have to be in the mood for it and it has to be *really* loud (the louder the better :)) and since I live in an appartment that can be difficult do to. I'm kinda mixed about ACOS. The title song starts of awfull, but gets better. The end is very good. the second song< Funeral for a Friend, is one of my favorites, it made me buy the original but I think the cover is much better. The rest is OK, I kinda like the Big Medly. Live at the Marquee is really cool. This version of Surrounded is the best song I have in my whole collection. The versions of Fortune in Lies, Bombay Vindaloo and the Killing Hand are better than the studio versions. Again, Pull me Unfdr didn't impress me much. I never really got into When Dream and day Unite, purely because I don't like the other guys voice.
Joengkie
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