YTSEJAM Digest 4118
Today's Topics:
1) no DTC, but someone should be interested...
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@umdnj.edu>
2) AOI
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
3) - Houston Ytsenight 3 - Info
by "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@vonl.com>
4) Good tour in Europe
by NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
5) Magna Carta's URL ???
by "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4112
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
7) Re: AOI
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
8) I Stand Corrected...
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
9) Re: Magna Carta's URL ?
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
10) Re: Looking for Blues Saraceno discs (NDTC)
by fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender)
11) Re: Dali's/Sad Songs
by "trev.monster" <trevin@apexmusic.com>
12) Re: Dali's/Sad Songs
by "trev.monster" <trevin@apexmusic.com>
13) Re: Explorer's Club/Bozzio
by Andrew James Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
14) Re: AOI
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
15) Re: AOI
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
16) Re: DT fans & musicians in SP Brazil!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
17) Re: AOI
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4114
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
19) Re: Matt Bradley
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
20) Re: October Project; Movies
by TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:56:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@umdnj.edu>
To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: no DTC, but someone should be interested...
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980730095239.17362A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
Just saw this on the Internet.....it's amazing how royally
stupid the press is, and the lengths (or lack of) that they
go to for a story to get out.....
Glam-rock band KISS to make feature film debut
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Popular glam-rock band KISS will make its feature
film debut in a 1970s-period comedy about
four teenagers who will stop at nothing to get into a KISS concert, New
Line Cinema said Wednesday.
"I've been a huge KISS fan since I was a kid," said director Adam Rifkin,
who recently worked on scripts for the films "Small
Soldiers" and "Mouse Hunt."
Famed for its outlandish makeup and costumes, KISS became a pop icon in
the 1970s and represented the supreme
embodiment of rock's transformation into pure show business.
The band broke up in 1979, but reunited in 1996 to draw huge crowds,
becoming the top-grossing act of the 1996-1997
concert season according to Polstar.
KISS lead singer Gene Simmons will be one of the producers of the movie.
Simmons also will star in the film with original band
members Paul Stanley, Ace Frehley and Peter Criss.
Separately, KISS is set to release a new album, "Psycho Circus," in late
September on Mercury Records. It is the first new
material by the band's original four members in 20 years.
there it is.........sorry if it took up a lot of space, but who the
hell likes metal/hard rock/etc. and wasn't a KISS fan at one time or
another......go ahead, say no, I dare you...........
:)
-Al
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HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 07:19:50 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: AOI
Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C341E27A1A@ms.kallback.com>
Ok, Grammar Nazis, shouldn't Explorers Club have an apostrophe?
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:19:59 -0500
From: "Colonel Mustard" <cmustard@vonl.com>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: - Houston Ytsenight 3 - Info
Message-ID: <01bdbbc5$224c0240$10ef5ed1@cmustard.vonl.com>
- Houston Ytsenight 3 -
WHEN: Saturday, August 1st
WHERE: Hard Rock Cafe (on Kirby I believe)
WHAT: Hang out with other jammers from around the area, discuss music for
hours on end, eat food for even longer, show off any boots/rarities/new bands that
you want to bring and parade around the group to feed your ego.
TIME: Try and get there for 7pm... I'll be hanging in the 'waiting to be
seated' area of the restaurant, hopefully scoring us a large table of sorts.
LOOK FOR: A guy with a shaved head, brown hair (what little is not shaved away), a
beard in progress, wearing grey t-shirt and jeans. Damn I'm cool.
Hope to see you there -
- Mark Lampert
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:48:22 +0100
From: NGA <nga@software-ag.de>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Good tour in Europe
Message-ID: <01BDBBD9.DDFA7D00@pcnga.software-ag.de>
Hi all
any European fans of good gothic/doomy music might like to note that
the following three bands will be touring together in September and
October through many European countries:
MOONSPELL - THERION - ANATHEMA
Eargasms all round I believe. See you at the Hafenbahn in Offenbach,
Germany, on the 18th of September.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Smashing Pumpkins - Adore
"They don't allow smoking on airplanes, but they allow children"
Bill Hicks
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:03:21 -0500
From: "Jan-Michael" <jmsouter@airmail.net>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Magna Carta's URL ???
Message-ID: <000201bdbbcb$30f8aa40$7a3b88cf@jammer>
>From: MentalHunk@aol.com
>
>Hello Everyone....
>
>Could someone please send me Magna Carta's URL ? I seem to have lost it
>somewhere....Thanks in Advance.....
Tom....you were close. Try it at:
JM
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:10:41 PDT
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4112
Message-ID: <19980730151041.10819.qmail@hotmail.com>
> Who/what is "The Knack"???
i have a number if jams to go, so I'm sure this has been answered
already, but iI'm also guessing I got something to add.....
The Knack be them that did the song "My Sharona" (so expertly parodied
by Weird AL Yankovic in "My Bologna", if i recall correctly), and the
knack is a band that at one time was fronted by a guy named DOug
Fieger....is he still their vocalist? who happens to be the brother of
one Geoffrey Fieger, who happens to be the ex-lawyer of a guy named Dr.
Death Jack Kevorkian (No, he isn't a professional wrestler....rather
he's the guy going around advocating assisted suicide).....Fieger quit
being ole Jack's lawyer to run for Governor of Michigan, and at this
time, he is spewing half-truths and full uintruth left and right with
little regard for accuracy, and still, in spite of that, may actually
win the democratic nomination for Governor of my state......
and that's my scary-as-hell thought of the day......
partha
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: AOI
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980730082325.12781A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Trevor W. Hoit wrote:
>
>Ok, Grammar Nazis, shouldn't Explorers Club have an apostrophe?
>
Yes, before the "s."
--Matt (mein furhor, I can walk!)
NP: Primus, Sailing the Seas of Cheese
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:10:32 -0500
From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I Stand Corrected...
Message-ID: <B1A22B4F087BD111B317006097939160264F6C@BHAM-XCHG.immpower.com>
The god that is MP wrote...
>Not for nuttin' Dave,
>but I just want to set the record straight.....
>DT sells AT LEAST 5 times the records King's X does.
>And I am not just speculating that....I do personally know all 3 KX
guys...
>Mike Portnoy
I stand corrected - and I hope to God that I haven't put any noses out
of joint. The reason for my speculation is due to my UK upbringing. I
have always found it easier to find KX stuff in the UK and I guess I
just assumed that they were bigger. And believe me, there is nothing I
would like to see more than OFB, DT become the huge band that they
deserve to be.
I am touched that MP read my post though,
Humbled Dave (a UK jammer - now in Alabama)
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:29:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Magna Carta's URL ?
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980730132953.6245C-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
-- Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time, Images and Words------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:36:31 +0200 From: fivengrok@village.uunet.be (Tony De Laender) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Looking for Blues Saraceno discs (NDTC) Message-ID: <v01510100b1e65ab82318@[194.7.177.120]>
>Recently, you folks were listing some of your fav. CD's other than DT to >listen to. Someone had Blues Saraceno on their list. I haven;t heard that >name, or his music for that matter, for a long time and I figure it is time >to get his discs. > >I ran into a problem tho. Neither, CDNow, CDConnection, CDUniverse, or >MusicBlvd carry his cd's. CDNow did have some instructional video of his, >but that ain;t what I want. My question is, is there another online shop >that you folks know of that carry Saraceno titles. Thanx for any info you >provide. > > >Chris R. >slim@5150.com
Try www.gemm.com They're not a store, but they have a database with zillions of CD's, LP's and stuff in it, with a "best price" option.
FiveNgroK
CP: Yes - 90125
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:36:29 -0500 From: "trev.monster" <trevin@apexmusic.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dali's/Sad Songs Message-ID: <000701bdbbe0$9817b1c0$5ac8fecd@trevin>
Other Trev here!
Trevor wrote: >Also it says Matt & Matt (Dali's Dilemma) are MC artists. >Does that mean we can expect a DD release soon on MC?
I think projected street date is sometime Sept-Oct. No date posted last time I checked. (Maybe Pat Reyes could be of some assistance here?!) URL for MC's Prog Update page is http://www.magnacarta.net/magfrog1.htm Goes as far out as Sept. 22 release of SG's 'Tyranny'.
Trevin
_________________________________________ "We've made the bed where chaos breeds..."
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:36:29 -0500 From: "trev.monster" <trevin@apexmusic.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dali's/Sad Songs Message-ID: <000801bdbbe0$ed818a00$5ac8fecd@trevin>
Other Trev here!
Trevor wrote: >Also it says Matt & Matt (Dali's Dilemma) are MC artists. >Does that mean we can expect a DD release soon on MC?
I think projected street date is sometime Sept-Oct. No date posted last time I checked. (Maybe Pat Reyes could be of some assistance here?!) URL for MC's Prog Update page is http://www.magnacarta.net/magfrog1.htm Goes as far out as Sept. 22 release of SG's 'Tyranny'.
Trevin
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:49:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew James Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Explorer's Club/Bozzio Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980730104534.27636A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
> Well, some of the stuff (a lot) is technically difficult, I will give you > that, in a performance standpoint, but I guess I am more interested in > drum pyrotechnics ala Mike Portnoy, who is quite a bit flashier in his
What do you mean by drum pyrotechnics? To my ears, there's a whole lot more going on in tracks 1 and 5 of AOI than there is in most of LTE. I love LTE, don't get me wrong, but Bozzio is from another planet. The fills, the independance, the feel, sounding so effortless in such changing time signatures.
Think about this. Would the Bozzio performance stand out more if it had the same sound as MP's on LTE? Mixed by Kevin Shirley? Bozzio's drums totally get lost half the time, especially his high toms and some of the alternating bits on the high hats and cymbals.
Andrew
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:35:32 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: AOI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980730153408.21983A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Trevor W. Hoit wrote:
> Ok, Grammar Nazis, shouldn't Explorers Club have an apostrophe?
I think so... But them, I'm a foreigner, so what do I know? :-)
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:42:28 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: AOI Message-ID: <35C0BE94.EB1ED3FC@pacbell.net>
Trevor W. Hoit wrote: > > Ok, Grammar Nazis, shouldn't Explorers Club have an apostrophe?
Not if they intended "Explorers" to be plural, and not possessive.
I think. :o)
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:46:59 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT fans & musicians in SP Brazil! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980730153959.21983C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Gilberto Bressan Junior wrote:
> Hi people.. > I'm looking for DT fans & musicians in Sao Paulo (Brazil)=20 > email me at gbressanjr@sti.com.br > > ( HEY ROGER ! do you know anybody here in SP ?)
Well, it would be nice to have an YtseGathering here in Brazil...
I know personally three 'jammers (Cassiano Barbosa, Marcelo Vanzin and Jose Lucas Perroni) but I know that there are much more just lurking (in fact, I've been talking with some people from Brasilia, for instance).
If you're a Brazillian 'jammer, what do you think of a meeting, say, next month??
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:14:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: AOI Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980730121256.1602A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Lisa Marie wrote:
> >Trevor W. Hoit wrote: >> >> Ok, Grammar Nazis, shouldn't Explorers Club have an apostrophe? > >Not if they intended "Explorers" to be plural, and not possessive. > >I think. :o)
That's true. if club is a verb, the title takes on a whole new meaning. The explorers club (some implied object being clubbed by the explorers). Ya. That works -- maybe that's what thye mean...
Or maybe not... ^_^
--Matt
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:25:31 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4114 Message-ID: <199807301925.MAA29696@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Schnipp" thus begged: > >Hi, >I forgot >NP DT-Lines in the sand REALLY LOUD > >schnipp > > >Gather ye rosebuds while ye may +++ old time is still a flying >the same flower that smiles today +++ tomorrow will be dying >A change of seasons,DT; poem by Robert Herrick >actually the mail address is Schnipp@vossnet.de >or Schnipp@bigfoot.com
Hey Schnipp, you don't need to waste bandwidth with posts like what the FUCK you are playing... In other words, SHUT THE FUCK UP
-The Doc
-- L I S T E N - http://progmetal.gmsnet.com <> drkhoe@gmsnet.com <> "The music's dying, but its epitaph will stay... it's not over yet." - Explorer's Club, AGE OF IMPACT, IMPACT 2 - FADING FAST
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 12:27:39 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Matt Bradley Message-ID: <199807301927.MAA29726@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Pat Reyes" thus begged: > >If you wanna hear more of Matt Bradley, then you'll want to buy Dali's >Dilemma "Mainfesto for Futurism" after it's released. He's all over the >place on this CD!
Yes, get this CD... I wonder why he's all over the place on that CD... maybe cause he's the singer for Dali's?!?! Nice promo, Pat ;)
> >Your friend, Patrick
I heard you're all over that CD too, Pat, whaddya play, guitars?!?! ;)
-The Doc
-- L I S T E N - http://progmetal.gmsnet.com <> drkhoe@gmsnet.com <> "The music's dying, but its epitaph will stay... it's not over yet." - Explorer's Club, AGE OF IMPACT, IMPACT 2 - FADING FAST
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:34:23 -0400 From: TheCowGod <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: October Project; Movies Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980730153423.006b4854@mail.clemson.edu>
> As for our friendly Cow God's idea of sitting through two hours of special >effects, I put this to you: how many times can you see New York destroyed >and not get jaded? With ID4, Godzilla, Armageddon, Daylight and other dreck >dominating the screens with repetitive destruction, truly great movies >don't even get a chance in the cineplexes. So far, two of the best movies I .. >hour to my "local" art-house just to see them. I decry effects-laden >pictures because of their lack of orignality and the self-importance of >their dialogue. All these movies struggle to have some higher moral purpose
heh, that parallels nicely with my music analogy (you make a good point btw, i'm just mentioning this). My area of knowledge is mainly guitar, so i'll put it in those terms: How many times can you hear someone play 64th notes at 200 bpm and not get jaded? With Yngwie, JP, Marty Friedman, Joe Stump, etc. dominating the cd players (can't say radio :), many truly good guitarists go unnoticed. Doesn't necessarily mean shred is bad. (wow! i managed to swing this thread back into the mild DTC area :) Moo.
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