YTSEJAM Digest 4110
Today's Topics:
1) godspell
by Thrak75@aol.com
2) Saving Private Bahr
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
3) Sad songs...
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
4) Audio Programs?
by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
5) Petrucci screwups
by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
6) age of impact : do not use RealPlayer G2
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4109
by "Dr. Scott Mosher, allroundniceguy" <ninja@mindspring.com>
8) Terry Bozzio and The Knack?!?!?!?
by cherylcat@earthlink.net
9) Re: sad songs....
by Ayreon@webtv.net (Blind Guardian)
10) SDV
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
11) Savatage's "TWoM"
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
12) Re: Extreme / Mangini
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
13) AOI
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
14) Re: ripping off
by Sbu <sbu@mailbox.ro>
15) Sportsjam. Again?
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4108
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
17) DAmn. cant believe I forgot this sad song...
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
18) A Ytse brain fart.
by AL <al@isd.net>
19) Age of Impact listening party
by Paul fanguy <drumsrus@bellsouth.net>
20) Alabama Jamma
by AL <al@isd.net>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:20:50 EDT
From: Thrak75@aol.com
To: Pisas97@aol.com, kelvinc@concentric.net, tburdman@bu.edu,
Subject: godspell
Message-ID: <83079f1.35bd2774@aol.com>
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the st. peter's prep summer musical theatre workshop presents
*** GODSPELL ***
directed by michael c. mazur and adam cohen
friday july 31 and saturday august 1
roy irving theatre - st. peter's college, 8 pm.
tickets $6- adults; $4 students and seniors
call 201 547-6420 for information.
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i know there are some of you on who are in other states (in mara's case,
another continent) and cannot make the shows. for those folks, just hellos and
wishes of good luck and cheer are apways appreciated. ;-)
for those of you who CAN make it out to the shows, there's the info. call the
number for more info.
for the band mailing lists, yes, i know this has no relevance to the subject-
artist of the list i'm subscribed to, but i thought i'd pass the word to the
nyc/nj residents on the lists. guaranteed funny stuff and guaranteed good
music if that's incentive (including hidden pink floyd references.
and PLEASE.....even if you can't make it- if you know someone who CAN go and
who would appreciate this, spread the word. thanks.
much in the way of love and props.
david
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david y. kobayashi
new york law school
thrak75@aol.com
"i bring truth and understanding. i bring wit and wisdom fair- precious gifts
beyond compare." -n. peart
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:04:25 -0400
From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Saving Private Bahr
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980728020425.006a8db8@pop.pipeline.com>
Mike "Go West, Young Man" Bahr originally said:
>>Go see it. See it NOW. It's hands down the best movie of the year, and
>>is fighting Braveheart in my mind for the title of most realistic war
Then he said:
>Similarly, though I have not been involved in a war, it is not too
>difficult to tell the realism level based on what's being seen during
>those respective films.
I disagree. You make the claim that SPR is fighting (har, har) Braveheart
for most realistic war film, and then you say it's not hard to tell
the realism level. I say there is no connection. I think it's damn
hard to tell the realism level if a.) you haven't been there or b.)
you aren't a student/expert of/on the era's military history/tactics/etc.
I am not doubting that SPR's scenes are realistic, I am just saying
that we, the lay people, have to take the experts' word for it, and
in the case of Braveheart, NO ONE knows for sure. Yeah, I am picking
nits, Nyah, nyah, nyah.
No one is saying that Mike Bahr must be a combat vet in order to enjoy
the films, only that to make a claim about the films' authenticity is a stretch.
Then again, as Dennis Miller says, I could be wrong...
CD of the Day: Killers - Menace to Society
Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
Detroit Red Wings 1996-97, 1997-98 Stanley Cup Champions
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:30:05 -0400
From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Sad songs...
Message-ID: <19980728022718.RDSN28282@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello,
Well, no one has mentioned Type O for this thread, so I will. "Love You To
Death" brings tears to my eyes. Also G N' R's Estranged tears my heart out.
There are also a ton of songs that to some people are happy, but because of
memories I've attached to them, they depress the hell out of me. Chris
Isaak's and Peter Gabriel's entire catalogs would be two examples. Sting,
too.
Sometimes its nice to sit back with a stack of CDs and just play the
depressing songs to vent all that emotion. Space Dye Vest and Eve tend to
get played when I do that. Some other songs I'll throw in:
On And On - Longpigs
Divine - Jason Bieler (Saigon Kick's frontman)
In My Darkest Hour - Megadeth
Road To Nowhere - Ozzy
Changes - Sabbath
Don't Tell Me - Van Halen
Eyes Of Mercy - October Project
Rock A Bye Bye - Extreme
Baroque - Joe Satriani
I Can't Take It - Cheap Trick
Beautiful Girl, By My Side - INXS
Valentine's Day - Bruce Springsteen
Every Breath You Take - The Police
No Holly for Ms. Quinn, Exile - Enya
I think I'll quit before someone gets really pissed. Now I'm in the mood to
hear half of those songs, so I'll head up to my little listening chamber
now. Oh, and I agree whole-heartedly with Brick and Black as selections,
but I don't own those discs. Sorry for the clutter!
Stodgers is lost without his Effexor...
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:37:38 -0400
From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Audio Programs?
Message-ID: <01bdb9c8$4e791dc0$LocalHost@default>
Hey Jammers-
Anyone know of an audio program that allows you to slow down a sample
while retaining the original pitch? I know there are a few gizmos on the
market that allow you to do this, but I was just wondering if anyone came up
with a program that does this as well.
13 days till DT/ELP/DP!!
-Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com ICQ# 15762800
DT MP3 Archive, Artwork, LTE Desktop theme, bass solos, and me
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/1566
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:45:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Petrucci screwups
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980727224015.18467A-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>
I'm sitting here listening to Stream of Consciousness and I realized that
every time I hear Petrucci screw-up, it's usually on an easy part. He
screws up pretty bad during the keyboard solo in BMS, and again during the
first heavy part in PMU. Don't get me wrong, the guy is still my fave
guitarist, but I find it a little odd. I don't think I've heard him
screw up on the parts requiring great technical proficiency, just simple
rhythms. Comments and opinions?
-C#
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:01:52 -0400
From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: age of impact : do not use RealPlayer G2
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980727230152.007a1740@pop3.afn.org>
Do not use RealPlayer G2 (new beta release), not for anything and
especially not to try and hear Age of Impact. Not only is it slow and
a cpu-hog, but no matter what you set in your preferences it tries to
run Age of Impact at 81kbps. This is fine if you are on a T3, but
if you're on a modem it means you wait for several minutes and listen to
20 seconds, then repeat. Quality's pretty good, though.
Make sure you get RealPlayer 5.0 and go to http://www.liveconcerts.com and
listen to this thing. I've only heard the first 2 minutes so far, but the
thing fucking rocks.
- "Trust no one. Kill everyone" (Milluminati Psycho).
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:13:36 +0000
From: "Dr. Scott Mosher, allroundniceguy" <ninja@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4109
Message-ID: <35BC60D8.9A01780E@mindspring.com>
Pertaining to the 'Drum Solo Thread':
Live, Carter Beaufort of Dave Matthews band has done some PHAT solos.
Dave Weckl, also, has some pretty hairy stuff, but most of stuff is.
Also, if anyone remembers
UNDER A RAGING MOON by Roger Daltrey,
there is a whole drum solo section in the song
instead of a guitar solo by some pretty cool people
(Copeland, Powell, Palmer, and more)
But the one by Zakk Starkey (the last solo)
was BY FAR the best. Great off-time solo
even though it's only 8 bars long, it fit
perfectly and was pretty fuckin' impressive.
Thats it.
- Scott M.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:13:08 -0700
From: cherylcat@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Terry Bozzio and The Knack?!?!?!?
Message-ID: <35BD41C2.D33B980A@earthlink.net>
OK, I admit that I often scan through most posts without reading them,
so I have no idea if this has been addressed. I saw an ad in the L.A.
Weekly for the Knack playing at the Troubador in September. The ad
showed that Terry Bozzio was part of the band. Is this true? Please tell
me he hasn't bowed this low..........
rockercat
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:37:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ayreon@webtv.net (Blind Guardian)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: sad songs....
Message-ID: <13303-35BD4791-259@mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
Both ACOS and Take Away My Pain have moved me to tears. Awesome song
writing and strong vocal performances did the trick.
"The smoke is rising
the vision's getting clearer
and words become a song
in the dreamtime!"
~Ayreon
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:57:15 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, MaxArbot@aol.com
Subject: SDV
Message-ID: <35BD4C1B.EDA4B3F3@home.com>
> Okay, with all of this depressing music talk, I just had to put my thoughts
> in. What is the best sad song you can think of? My vote would definitely go
> for "Space-Dye Vest."
I'll go along with that. Great moody song.
If you like SDV, you must check out Kevin Moore's ChromaKey "Dead Air
For Radios" (if you haven't already).
> I really wish there were more songs like that one. Not
> that I have any idea what it's about...
Check out the FAQ. It gives a pretty good description.
- Joe D.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:59:17 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Savatage's "TWoM"
Message-ID: <35BD4C95.51F03401@home.com>
> NP: Savatage, "Wake of Magellan"
> (It's been in CONSTANT rotation for 1 full week now!)
>
> -Ponte
Hehehheheh. That CD has hardly left my player since it came out!
- Joe D.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:11:45 -0500
From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Extreme / Mangini
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980727231145.008634a0@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
At 04:53 PM 27/07/98 -0700, Ernesto Lotitto wrote:
>
>Somebody wrote:
>
>>> Nuno actually sequenced the drum part on Cupids dead so that it >>was
>the way he wanted it. This is probably why Extreme never >>played
>Cupid's dead live while Paul was the drummer.
I heard this too on the extreme newsgroup, someone said it was a drum
machine with live snare drums played by Nuno but mainly a drum machine, I
dont think so....also someone pointed that there's a part where the drums
go out of time for a while but I dont hear it at all...I read an interview
with paul where he said he used to play very technical stuff and he played
like Neil P. I never hear him play like that, I heard just simple beats....
>> I think this is why he left Extreme.
>
>Well, I'm not pretty sure about this, but I think he wasn't quite
>getting along with the rest of the band...
I dont think this was the reason neither, paul still talk with the other
guys, last month gary cherone and paul badger played a couple of songs in
boston, Im not sure if paul was there but they have been seen haging
togheter after the break up...
>I can't agree with you more. I consider Mangini the BEST drummer out
>there (you HAVE to see him doing a solo).
>Also, I have met him twice, and I have to say that he's the nicest,
>funniest person ever. (Can't wait to hear Nuno's project with Mike
>Mangini and Donovan Bettencourt)
>
yeah, mangini solos are the best, he can play with one hand what most
people play with both hands...he also can play as left or right handed
without thinking about it....
I heard there's a bootleg of Nuno and Mike live from one of the 2
presentations they had last month in UK, at the mad about music
festival...they played a funked up version of cupid's dead too....I gotta
listen to that, they played some new songs too....
there's a new Extreme mailing list running now so email me if you are
interested in joinin, I lost the info for the subscribing thing but i can
ask for it again....personally I would like to listen to some kind of
Liquid tension experiment with petrucci and mangini...
by the way New orleans is pretty cool....
--- MP3 of the week - "The Wizard" the Black Sabath cover played by John Tesh with Dweezil and Ahmet Zappa http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025/Alan Estrada Adler, ICQ #9267174 Monterrey, Mexico -------------------------------------------------------- TAKE NOTE OF MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:06:37 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: AOI Message-ID: <35BD5C5D.67230ACA@home.com>
Damnit! Any of you Detroit 'jammers who are lookin' to pick up Age Of Impact tomorrow......
Don't go to Borders on Hall Road! I've got the ONE DAMN COPY they have on order reserved!
:-P :-P :-P
- Joe D.
one damn copy..... How sad is that? They probably have 13,000 copies of the latest Puff Daddy CD though.
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:08:01 +0300 From: Sbu <sbu@mailbox.ro> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ripping off Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980728080801.007a1ce0@box.mailbox.ro>
At 10:52 AM 27.07.1998 -0700, Dr. Mosh wrote: > >Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Sbu thus begged:
What altar is that ?! ;-) >> >>>- Take Away My Pain : Dream Theater. >>I think that this one sounds like Marillion or maybe like Fish. >I think it sounds like SHIT compared to the DEMO... > >-The Doc
Sorry Doc, can you tell me, what's that DEMO ?
Still begging (the beast is still sleeping), Sbu.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:08:09 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Sportsjam. Again? Message-ID: <002e01bdb9e6$5ac7c4a0$170d84d0@korgx3>
>I don't see how wearing the Niners jersey would help you learn >anything about football at all. Now, a Giants jersey... :)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! You know.
Pat vs. Al was nothing. Korg vs. the world is everything.
--We are the Korg, you will be arpeggiated.
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:25:16 -0400 From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4108 Message-ID: <35BD60BC.1C05F84E@bigfoot.com>
>
howdy, i just resubbed to the jam. I see I've walked right into the middle of a "sad song" thread. Has anyone mentioned the Cure? Lessee: From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea is my favorite sad song, with The Same Deep Water As You at a close second. I don't think it's a coinkydink that these, and a few of the Cure's other great songs, are so saturated(no pun intended) with water imagry. Sinking, drowning, dark skies raining, fucking sad, man. Water imagary is pretty damn powerful. In fact, now that i think about it, DT also has water songs aplenty.
~Joshua Rasiel has stolen eckie's sig
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:52:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DAmn. cant believe I forgot this sad song... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980728015041.1759C-100000@thunder>
"Someone Else?" by queensryche!
Perhaps it is because I can relate to that song so freegen well, but Ive never EVER had a song tear me apart and put lumps in my throat like that one. There is so much emotion in that song (to me anyway) that I cannot listen to it very often. Great album as well! I think I shall put it in (here come the tears again....)
Sniffles! -Ponte
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:57:15 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A Ytse brain fart. Message-ID: <35BD683B.710B49FD@isd.net>
Some dork wrote: >From: "Paul Storimans" <paul.storimans@eclectic.nl> >To: <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4107 >Message-ID: <01bdb991$601928e0$1f14a8c0@station-01.eclectic.nl>
>What should I do to make you stop sending me this shit >UNSUBSCRIBE >Kind Regards,.....Paul The easiest way for someone with a diminished mental capacity to be removed from the list is: Change your E-mail address. If the jam's mail server gets a few bounced back it will remove you automatically. Of course you could read the FAQ. Doh!
Hey KorgX3! Sick em'
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 03:08:22 -0500 From: Paul fanguy <drumsrus@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Age of Impact listening party Message-ID: <35BD86F6.19D24268@bellsouth.net>
Does anyone else get really choppy sound when they try to listen to this? Or am I just on a sucky ISP?? I'm connected at 33.6, and the stream is 32. ADVICE: don't sign up with Bellsouth.net!! also, does John Petrucci play on every track, or just certain ones? I guess I'll find out when it arrives in a few days. Oh yeah, and one more thing..... I'm a drummer, and I just ordered a guitar because I want to learn how to play. It's an Ibanez GRX20 . I know it sucks, but hey, it's cheap!!! Does anyone have some advice on good books, video's or CD roms that would help a beginner? I'm a fast learner, and I already know music theory and stuff, I think I just need something to show me all the chord and scale positions, then I can take it from there.
Thanks, Paul Fanguy drumsrus@bellsouth.net http://surf.to/thediezmantrio
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:06:45 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Alabama Jamma Message-ID: <35BD94A5.D11A6F09@isd.net>
Dave Ware wrote: >Dave (a UK Jammer - now in Alabama). AlaFuckingBama! I pity you trying to talk to those people down there at your "normal" WPM speech rate. I can here it now! "Hey Buford, whad he say"
Alabama: The land where "Redneck Rampage" has held the #1 position in software sales for nine months. Windows 98 is a distant second.
Sorry, I've been there.... Once.
Hey, at least it's not Arkansas.
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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