YTSEJAM Digest 3951
Today's Topics:
1) DT and Deep Purple
by Lord Weazel <weazel@primenet.com>
2) Moonlight Sonata
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
3) Moonlight Sonata
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
4) Songs DT should play at DP/ELP
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
5) BOO!
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
6) Hungarian Rhapsodies, "mad scientist" music?
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
7) Re: DT and Deep Purple
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
8) Beethoven
by Devs0432@aol.com
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3950
by Htdmhd@aol.com
10) "Carmina Burana"
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
11) Hogarth/Spice_KC/Art Zoyd
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
12) Re: Immortal Excellent Adventure
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
13) James' ass and a new thread suggestion.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
14) Re: Moonlight Sonata
by Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
15) Mike Backof (Mr. Discog), are you alive?
by Jeremy Hyde <tempus@alliance.net>
16) my new DT page/DT on MTV
by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
17) Re: Orchestra music question
by Beyond the Mirror <mail@beyondthemirror.com>
18) Megadeth in Phoenix
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
19) Yanni help?
by AL <al@isd.net>
20) New Ginger gig
by AL <al@isd.net>
21) Berlioz and opium
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
22) Question about keyboard setups and looking for rare CD's
by "Erik 'Starblazer' Stearns" <stearns@realtime.net>
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:52:01 -0700
From: Lord Weazel <weazel@primenet.com>
To: YTSEJAM DT Digest <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT and Deep Purple
Message-ID: <35733091.25A75606@primenet.com>
I was at the MAy 20th Concert in Tempe
Arizona, and Dt said something about doing an
upcoming concert with Deep Purple in Arizona, in
late summer early fall. I've called all the radio
station and they know nothing about this, if
anyone has any insight for me please email or post
it for me, Thanks
-- _______________________________________________________________________"Every step brings me closer to my last...." Pull me Under - Dream Theater
Lw
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:23:00 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Moonlight Sonata Message-ID: <357337D3.767F599@home.com>
I've got a Q relating to the recent classical thread. Where can I find a good rendition of Moonlight Sonata? Someone sent me a Midi file of it once...... and I thought it was awesome. So I went out a bought a bargain-bin CD that had it, but it pretty well sucked (it was very quiet, and boring).
- Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:25:54 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Moonlight Sonata Message-ID: <35733882.F4F87014@home.com>
> Where can I find a good rendition of Moonlight Sonata? > Someone sent me a Midi file of it once...... and I thought it was > awesome. So I went out a bought a bargain-bin CD that had it, but it > pretty well sucked (it was very quiet, and boring).
A quick correction (or rather, clarification. By "quiet and boring" I don't mean "It didn't sound like Dream Theater", I meant that it was literally VERY QUIET (had to crank the volume to hear it.)
- Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:23:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Songs DT should play at DP/ELP Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980601192133.452A-100000@thunder>
1) Age of Impact.. umm.. I didnt hear about this.. i guess I should give it a try :)
2) COULD ANY BODY GIVE ME A TOURBOOK?!?!! (sorry.. Ive begged and pleaded enough).. at least point to a vendor which can sell me one?
3) Songs DT should plat at DP ELP... Definitely LitS and ToT... Together they illustrate the range of DT, while also fitting into what the other fans might want to hear.... and also VERY proggy.
-Ponte
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 19:24:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: BOO! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.980601192402.452B-100000@thunder>
(The main reason I would like to hear ToT is because very few songs ever BLEW ME AWAY IN CONCERT like ToT did!!!!!)
cheers
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:51:00 -0400 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hungarian Rhapsodies, "mad scientist" music? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980601195100.00690ba0@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Daus inquired: >Since we are now talking about Orchestrated music (GREAT THREAD!), I >have a question. I was always wondering which symphony made the BEST >Hungarian Rhapsody recording.
Dorati does a pretty good job with the London Symphony Orchestra, and Dutoit with the Montreal Symphony Orchestra rivals the Dorati version.
>Also, I was always wondering who >composed that music that you would typically here played during "mad >scientist scenes" or "Frankenstein scenes" in movies. Does anyone know >who i am taling about?? It is a piece played on a pipe organ.
I can almost guarantee that the piece you're thinking of is J.S. Bach's "Toccata and Fugue in D Minor". One of the more widely-recognized pieces of classical music ever (with good reason).
Ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Jonn Serrie -- "Ixlandia"
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT and Deep Purple Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980601165605.11251A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Lord Weazel wrote:
> > I was at the MAy 20th Concert in Tempe >Arizona, and Dt said something about doing an >upcoming concert with Deep Purple in Arizona, in >late summer early fall. I've called all the radio >station and they know nothing about this, if >anyone has any insight for me please email or post >it for me, Thanks
Are you subscribed to the Ytsejam? Have you read any jam for the last month? Didn't you know DT broke up because they couldn't find a way to divvie up KevMo's cancerous testicles equally?
Read the 'Jam. Because it all starts with the 'Jam.
--Matt
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:02:47 EDT From: Devs0432@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Beethoven Message-ID: <74791f3b.35734128@aol.com>
<< Setting - "new piano" love interest and father hides to spy on a deaf Beethoven "testing" it out. He plays a very familiar piece that I love - but I don't know the name of it. Can anyone tell me the name of the piece and a good recording? >>
Well, I can't help you out as far as a good recording of it - except maybe on the Immortal Beloved Soundtrack itself, but I'm not sure if they have the entire piece. The song is called The Moonlight Sonata, and DAMN it is an awesome piece!! Unfortunately I can only play the slow part - aka the part you hear in Immortal Beloved - but I'm working on it. I love love love love this piece. Played it during our thunderstorm and tornado watch last night :)
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:05:51 EDT From: Htdmhd@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3950 Message-ID: <40f26331.357341e0@aol.com>
Here's my $.02 for the DT set list: Erotomania Voices Under A Glass Moon New Millenium Burning My Soul (w/ a little of "Paradigm Shift" thrown in, of course) Pull Me Under Metropolis Part 1
If time permits, add in Lines In The Sand, for good measure
PS: SKADZ---e-mail me about the New England Jammer thread---thanks!
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:19:01 -0800 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: "Carmina Burana" Message-ID: <v01540b00b199034208de@[205.134.228.29]>
>Orff -- "Carmina Burana" (Stokowski, Houston Symphony Orchestra or >Stokowski/Berlin Philharmonic)
Ray Manzarek (keyboard player of the doors) used to play "Carmina Burana" in his solo works. It's a very nice album.
Regards, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:53:59 -0800 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hogarth/Spice_KC/Art Zoyd Message-ID: <v01540b01b19903cc294f@[205.134.227.59]>
Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> wrote:
>Oh yeah, there will be a US release of Steve Hogarth's solo album "Ice >Cream >Genius" at the end of July, which will have an extra track called >"The Last >Thing" (previously released on a single in Europe). The album >will be >re-released under Steve's full name, rather than just "H"... For >more info, >check out "The H Website" at :
It is always extremely late to get anything in U.S. copies. Do not expect to hear serious prog from Ice Cream Genius.
Perk1994@aol.com wrote:
>LONDON -- Gerry Halliwell, known throughout the world as Ginger Spice from >>the mega-popular all-girl group, the Spice Girls, has left the platinum >>-selling group in order to pursue her lifelong dream of performing with >her >idol, guitarist Robert Fripp, who is most known for being the founder >of the >art- rock group King Crimson. Ginger will go on a world tour with >Fripp and >fellow King Crimson members, Tony Levin (bass) and Bill Bruford >(drums), in >aband called ProjecKt 3. There have already been two >ProjecKts featuring >members of King Crimson. This will be the first >ProjecKt that has featured a >non-Crimson musician.
This really hurts my feeling. If Fripp did that, all KC fans would commit suiside!! :)
I want to add one more band who does the cover of "21 Century Schizoid Man". It is "Pressurehed" from "Schizoid Dimension", a tribute to King Crimson album.
Regarding the classical stuff, I would like to add a must hear band named Art Zoyd. They are from France, play mainly avant-garde, synthesis of rock, free jazz and contamporaneous to classical music. Art Zoyd is dark but not as dark as Univers Zero or Magma. Try "Symphonie pour le jour ou bruleront les cites" or "Musique Pour L'Odyssee". Oh..if you want dark and weird music try anything by Magma.
Regards, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 08:24:49 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Immortal Excellent Adventure Message-ID: <199806020125.SAA15483@odin.ax.com>
> Setting - "new piano" love interest and father hides to spy on a deaf > Beethoven "testing" it out. He plays a very familiar piece that I love - but > I don't know the name of it. And then a couple dopey-looking guys walk out of a phone booth and carry Beethoven off, oh wait, wrong movie :).
Dale R. Newberry drnewb@spiff.net
"I'm hip about time."
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 21:08:30 -0600 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: James' ass and a new thread suggestion. Message-ID: <007801bd8dd3$c3b86760$210d84d0@korgx3>
> to being a great lyricist. He's the only male singer able > to move me emotionally...
Itchy, that's just not something you should be sharing with 1000+ other people. heheh
Dontcha think James'd be a great replacement for Gerry? He's got the butt for it. (Doh! I guess I should read the above) Anyway...
My friend and I had an interesting conversation the other day. Not that this classical thread isn't great, but it sort of ties into it. As Bach, Beethoven, and co. are still revered as wonders of the music world, who do you think people will be considering the classics in another 200 years? Anyone from our time period you could think of? Personally, I can't think of anyone (save maybe Yanni) from the recent past who have the ability to last generations. Bill Gates, maybe?
I wanna hear about this one, I'm rather curious. --KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:26:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Moonlight Sonata Message-ID: <199806020326.XAA69948@node2.unix.Virginia.EDU>
According to Joe DeAngelo: > > > I've got a Q relating to the recent classical thread. > Where can I find a good rendition of Moonlight Sonata? > Someone sent me a Midi file of it once...... and I thought it was > awesome. So I went out a bought a bargain-bin CD that had it, but it > pretty well sucked (it was very quiet, and boring).
well, you can't get this version at your local store, but the drummer in my band, who also plays guitar and has a master's degree in music comp, recorded a metal version of this for a class he took. it totally crushes - he played the 8th note arppegios as pairs of muted 16th notes, kind of like petrucci in the chorus to glass moon, and overdubbed the melody. it's awesome.
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:29:07 -0700 From: Jeremy Hyde <tempus@alliance.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Backof (Mr. Discog), are you alive? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980601232907.0079b7f0@trek.alliance.net>
Hey, I was just looking at the DT Discog the other day and noticed that it was grossly outdated (last entry is ACOS). Anyone know if Mike Backof is on the list anymore, alive, or even aware that FII has been released?
Puzzled,
Jeremy Hyde - tempus@alliance.net http://x2.alliance.net/tempus
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:47:10 -0400 From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com> To: "ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: my new DT page/DT on MTV Message-ID: <01bd8dd9$1f97bea0$6d65cd98@default>
Hullo fellow jammers, First off I just want to announce that I am putting together a small DT page with MP3's, artwork, and some other shit. It should be done by the end of the weekend (next Monday i guess :) ) If you wanna check it out in its early stages and let me know some improvements or compliments or whatever I'd appreciate it. The link is down below in my sig. As for the MTV thing, I figure WTF, its worth a shot. I mean whats gonna happen, we'll be banned from e-mailing/watching MTV. Gee, what a thought. I can't even get through a full day of school without sneaking a little Green Day. (yes i'm being sarcastic) Anyways, to cut to the point, someone pick a day, video and time and i'll try my best to do it. Laterz -Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com Visit my webpage for my latest NIN Desktop Theme, bass solo mp3's, and other useless info or my new DT page. http:\\www.geocities.com\SunsetStrip\Mezzanine\1566
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:51:41 -0500 From: Beyond the Mirror <mail@beyondthemirror.com> To: "'YJ Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Orchestra music question Message-ID: <01BD8DAF.DC307B80.mail@beyondthemirror.com>
>>who composed that music that you would typically >>here played during "mad scientist scenes" or >>"Frankenstein scenes" in movies... It is a piece >>played on a pipe organ.
You're probably talking about the Toccata & Fugue in D minor by Johann Sebastian Bach.
Josh Becker josh@beyondthemirror.com http://www.beyondthemirror.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:03:37 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: jandb@primenet.com, bonze@u.arizona.edu, fernandm@u.arizona.edu, Subject: Megadeth in Phoenix Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980601210329.0069e7e8@postoffice.syspac.com>
Hey, I've got a ticket here for the Megadeth SOLD OUT show in Phoenix, next Saturday. Unfortunately, my band is playing a really good paying gig the same night at a new club we've never played before. So I need to get rid of the ticket.
BOTTOM LINE: $20, Megadeth, June 6th, Mesa Amphitheater w/ Sevendust
E-mail me if you're interested. Thanks!
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:19:49 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Yanni help? Message-ID: <35737D65.DE956E03@isd.net>
Call me a dork for asking, but... What is Yanni's music like? I have never checked him out. I do Like Mannheim Steamroller, Andreas Vollenweider, and other "New Age" material. I also like brass & string instruments. Oh, and orchestras rule! DT & Fates are my "favorite" prog bands. Any Yanni suggestions? Keep in mind, I am real fussy about recording quality, a lousy recording would ruin it for me. Thanks...
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist And NO, I did not misspell that!
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:38:47 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Ginger gig Message-ID: <357381D7.F133D75D@isd.net>
Rumor has it that Ginger Spice is going to team up with some "has been" rapper. The band name was rumored to be "Spice-Tea."
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist And NO, I did not misspell that!
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 21:42:33 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Berlioz and opium Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980601214233.0087d100@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
>From: erodger@fore.com
>Finally someone mentions Berlioz. The Fantastic Symphony is a must for >anyone enjoying the darker side of classical, especially movement 5. This >piece was written under the influence of opium, and I think it's pretty >obvious. > >KAI
Berlioz did NOT write his Symphonie Fantastique on opium. He wrote the fourth movement imagining that the hero of his symphony poisened himself on opium. The fourth movement are the horrible nightmares of the symphonies' hero. And incidentally, Berlioz did consider the hero of the Symphonie Fantastique to be himself, but Berlioz did not write the symphony under the influence of opium.
For that matter, the second movement of the symphony revolves around Berlioz taking Henriette, the woman he was in love with in real life, to a ball. But in real life, they never were at a ball/dance together, so that was imagined as well.
It is a wonderful piece, I just wanted to clarify Kai's mistake. Dont want people thinking Berlioz is a drug addict : )
Jon
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:52:05 -0500 From: "Erik 'Starblazer' Stearns" <stearns@realtime.net> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>, The National Midnight Star <rush@syrinx.umd.edu> Subject: Question about keyboard setups and looking for rare CD's Message-ID: <357384F5.342@realtime.net>
Hey guys,
I'm back in black with vengence and the creative juices are flowing. Now that I've moved into my OWN new place and am pretty much settled, I'm getting back into the music business. Since my consulting career took off, I decided to take advantage of it and invest in a keyboard setup for jam and stage use.
I'm looking at an Alesis QS7 with an expandable rack both for additional keyboards and rack mounts, 32 mb of ram and the ventage PCMCIA expansion card for the prog sounds like the Hamond B-3, etc. The amp I am also looking at is an Alesis RA-100 stereo amp with .7 stereo reference monitors. The thing I was wanting to know is What do Geddy Lee and Kevin Moore use.
Also I'm replacing some CDs the exbitch stole. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can score a copy of these: Saga's Worlds Appart, Autograph's first self titled release, and Taking On The World by Gun. Anybody know?
Thanks in advance,
Erik.
-- An Open mind is the thriving of a society while the closed mind is the downfall of the same. For in Saroks's words, "The spear in the others's heart is the spear in your own. You are he."
-- From the "Freedom" Speech to Larion's Congress
Erik Stearns StarBlazer Enterprises Inc. (512)719-1252 Fax: (512)719-1066 mailto:stearns@bga.com mailto:stearns@realtime.net mailto:starblazer@geocities.com http://www.starblazer.com http://www.realtime.net/~stearns http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/1740
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