YTSEJAM Digest 3965
Today's Topics:
1) Smoking the HERB
by Wcphill@aol.com
2) Re: Smoking the HERB
by Theiban@aol.com
3) Re: Smoking the HERB
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
4) Re: Smoking the HERB
by Theiban@aol.com
5) I'm #01, I'm #01!
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
6) Re: $10 Discount at CDNow
by Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
7) some more specs I remembered
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
8) Berlioz and opium
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
9) another idea on e MTV request deal
by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
10) Vote
by Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
11) Re: Vote
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
12) **Boots for sale**
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
13) DT tablature books
by Charlie Patel <patelc@ro.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3962
by "Nikos@Tama-Greek band" <s9763230@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au>
15) Re: Oh Yeah?
by PhReEkY dEeK <lerxst@wam.umd.edu>
16) Drugs and the Ryche
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
17) John Wesley
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:15:05 EDT
From: Wcphill@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Smoking the HERB
Message-ID: <344385b4.35786dea@aol.com>
With all this talk about pot and DT, I am surprised no one has noticed or
mentioned Mike's screen name "portnoy420". 420 is known as the Official time
to smoke pot. That is why if you ever go into a head shop or "drug
parifinalia" store, you can find tons of stickers and such with 420 written
all over them. Well guys, if this is your secret to making amazing music, I
might have to move to Amsterdam. Of course, why isn't there a bunch of
amazing bands coming out of Amsterdam?
<ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ>~`~`-~-~-~--
-Warren
JP wannabe
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:30:49 EDT
From: Theiban@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Smoking the HERB
Message-ID: <1b010ae1.3578719a@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-06-05 18:27:44 EDT, you write:
<< With all this talk about pot and DT, I am surprised no one has noticed or
mentioned Mike's screen name "portnoy420". 420 is known as the Official time
to smoke pot. That is why if you ever go into a head shop or "drug
parifinalia" store, you can find tons of stickers and such with 420 written
all over them. Well guys, if this is your secret to making amazing music, I
might have to move to Amsterdam. Of course, why isn't there a bunch of
amazing bands coming out of Amsterdam?
<ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ>~`~`-~-~-~--
-Warren
JP wannabe >>
umm... HELLO? thats his birthday 4/20
geez wasnt this already discussed?
Rocky
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:51:44 -0600
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Smoking the HERB
Message-ID: <000c01bd90d4$8677b320$44f086cc@chuckrei>
>umm... HELLO? thats his birthday 4/20
>geez wasnt this already discussed?
Then Mikey was born on the right day. =)
Besides, I think someone already mentioned the 420 had nothing to do with
his birthdate. But I could be wrong. I seem to forget stuff all the time
and salivate alot more.
Pass me a Twinkie would ya?
~KorgX3 sparks up a bowl in Mike's honor.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 19:17:11 EDT
From: Theiban@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Smoking the HERB
Message-ID: <8fc4e5d0.35787c78@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-06-05 19:10:46 EDT, you write:
<< Besides, I think someone already mentioned the 420 had nothing to do with
his birthdate. But I could be wrong. I seem to forget stuff all the time >>
yea smoking a lot of herb makes you forget stuff all the time. i haven't
smoked herb in.... hell i forget how long it's been.
Rocky
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:21:44 PDT
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I'm #01, I'm #01!
Message-ID: <19980605232144.19779.qmail@hotmail.com>
about the topic, i just happened to send in for the Savatage "The Age of
Discovery" set that Volodya advertised the other day on here from Open
All Night Records a couple of weeks ago, and that happened to be copy
#01 (out of only 75, so order NOW!), and it happened to arrive on
Wednesday, and I've been listening to it whenever i've been home
(between periods of the WIngs/stars and the caps/sabres games, of
course).....
(and no, i ain't affiliated with these guys in any way, I'm just in a
gushing mood)
first thing, the liner notes: a cool painting of some semi-prehistoric
types out on a lake exploring something, apparently (i don't have it
with me, forgot the exact detail)......the disc itself has pictures of
the band, as does the back cover, and inside front cover, nice glossy
stuff......
about the show: as volodya's ad said, the show was recorded last
november in paris, so it's a twom tour show, and the setlist reads
somewhat like what Matt Teiper described earlier today, with certain
changes (no sirens, couple of other differences).....
highlights in the boot abound, from very sweetly clear vocals
(especially when Zach Stevens sings, Oliva's vocals are rough, but
that's a symptom of his vocals rather than the recording)......to a
mostly great recording mix, to the bonus track from a late 96 DWD tour
show which include starlight, one child, mozart and madness and DOESN'T
MATTER ANYWAY (which happens to be my favorite savatage song)
as for the vocals.....chance, the hourglass and the wake of magellan are
all included on the setlist, and the counterpoint stuff is beatifully
represented on chance and twom.....for some reason, i can't quite recall
that part of the hourglass, but i'm sure it's there.....
this has been one rough and tumble review, but take with you this bottom
line....basically, "The Age of Discovery" is a damn fine $29 spent, I
tell you whut.....
I would also rave about OAN Records intro disc "Into the great unknown",
which feature a coupla track from DT, 'deth, 'tage, hammerfall, gamma
ray, vanden plas, and some more, but that's not being offered anymore,
so I won't rub it in......let's just say that i'm gonna grab me some
vanden plas sometime really soon......if anyone would care to suggest a
particular disc for me (private mail, please, i'm sure it's been done
before), I would be mighty thankful....
oh, and one more thing about OAN.....after I'd received the boot, but
before I'd had the chance to inform them that it had arrived, the guy
wrote and 1)inquired about it's arrival, and 2) informed me that their
was a printing error on the liner notes, and a replacement was in the
mail already.....speaks for itself, I'd think.......
partha
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 19:36:50 -0400
From: Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: $10 Discount at CDNow
Message-ID: <0EU300NFXQWWL4@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET>
Itchy wrote:
<<This discount is ONLY available if you go to CDnow through a
so called "Cosmic URL". You can find "Cosmic URLs" on "Under
A Cyber Moon" in the left frame of the frames version or the
CDnow links on UACM's links page... So if you haven't bought
"LTE" yet... ;-)
Not only will YOU get a $10 discount, they'll give ME 5 % in
CDnow credit over the amount of money you spend (*including*
that $10). Cool deal all around. :-)
If you have your own site you might want to consider joining
CDnow's Cosmic Credit program too... It's pretty cool. There
are lots of other online record stores with credit programs,
like Music Boulevard and CD Universe, btw.>>
Yeah, these Cosmic Credit, RAM , etc. programs are quite a good deal...
you don't need to have anything for it, not even a web page (they
will give you a URL and you can just type it in/bookmark it)...btw
other non-music stores also do this type of thing (e.g. amazon.com).
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| http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/7767 |
| "A man must learn to cope, if his obsession's real |
| Suppression that he feels must turn to hope." |
| Dream Theater, "Take The Time" |
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:35:40 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: some more specs I remembered
Message-ID: <199806052337.QAA04520@cats.ucsc.edu>
On synth modules:
The TR-Rack can play 32 samples simultaneously. Each voice in a patch can
play up to 2 samples at once, so your minumum polyphony is 16. You can
velocity switch another sample for each of the 2 in a voice, so you can
have up to 4 samples in a patch, but only 2 triggering at once. It has 16
parts multitimbral, so it can chew up a whole MIDI port easily. Drums can
be on any channel, and obviously can violate the only 4 samples per voice
restriction. 48Khz sampling rate, so it has some nice sparkly highs.
The Roland 1080 and 2080 have 64 voice polyphony (I think) and each patch
can have up to 4 samples triggered at once. So your minimum polyphony is
again 16, but can sound richer cause of the more voices. You can do
velocity switching within your 4 voices if you want, or use less than 4
voices per patch, but you get the idea. Only 8 parts multitimbral, and
one part is dedicated to drums. In fact, you can only have drums on that
one channel. Each part can be set up to receive on any MIDI channel, tho,
so drums don't have to be on channel 10.
The Yamaha EX5R has 128 voice polyphony (so the brochure sez) and can have
up to 4 samples per patch, or some combiation of 3 samples and one of the
other waveforms (anamog model, physical model, DSP model) -- I don't know
if the other models chew up more voices than a sample does. I haven't
played on this yet, so I don't know too much about it.
Just trying to point out that it's important to remember how many voices
the thing can play, how many voices make up a patch, and how much _real_
polyphony and multi-timbral capabilities you get before you buy. They
throw lots of numbers around, and it can be confusing, so don't hesitate to
ask. :)
~Chris
The next Ginger Spice
__ /\ __ Chris Oates: aspect@cats.ucsc.edu
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\_||_/ | "Still awake, I continue to move along, cultivating my |
/__||__\ | own nonsense" -Dream Theater, "Trial of Tears" |
// \ | \\ ----+
\| http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 16:59:12 -0700
From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Berlioz and opium
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980605165912.008b4810@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
>From: erodger@fore.com
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>>>Finally someone mentions Berlioz. The Fantastic Symphony is a must for
>>>anyone enjoying the darker side of classical, especially movement 5. This
>>>piece was written under the influence of opium, and I think it's pretty
>>>obvious.
>
>I've read half a dozen texts that contradict what you are stating. They
>are quick to point out that Hector wasn't an addict, but that at least part
>of this piece was penned while under the influence. Also, his memoirs
>state that the symphony is not about himself and Henriette, however the
>link is hard to dismiss.
>
>KAI
Aye yai yai. Adam agreed with me, why wont you? : ) I would love to see
those six sources that say Berlioz wrote parts of the piece under the
influence of opium. As for me, here are my credible sources.
Edward Downes, program writer for the New York Philharmonic for fourteen
seasons and conductor emeritus of the BBC Philharmonic, wrote a book
entitled _Guide to Symphonic Music_. It contains programs for all major
orchestral works, and is 1000+ pages long. Here is what it says.
"Imagine, wrote Berlioz, that an artist gifted with vivid imagination first
glimpses a woman who embodies the ideal he has long carried in his
heart...[cut for brevity, no context is lost]...In a fit of despair the
artist poisons himself with opium. But instead of killing him, the does
induces horrible nightmares. He believes that he has killed his beloved
and has been condemned to death."
Note that from this quotation, Berlioz is writing about an _imagined_
artist. So the imagined artist took the opium, not Berlioz.
Also...
"In our own time Berlioz's program has been widely attacked on the grounds
that it is inaccurate as autobiography. It has been solemnly pointed out
that Berlioz never took Henriette [his love, and the basis for the idee
fixe] to a ball, that he did not poison himself with opium, and that by the
time the Symphony reached performance he was wooing another woman."
That is from Downe's _Guide to Symphonic Music_. Pretty clear cut as to
whether Berlioz used opium or not.
Michael Steinberg, current program writer for the San Francisco Symphony
and New York Philharmonic (after Downes), and former program writer for the
Boston Symphony Orchestra. In his book, _The Symphony: A Listener's Guide_
he writes:
"[Berlioz began work] on the symphony whose design he described in detail
to his friend the poet Humbert Ferrand.
In brief, 'an artist, gifted with imagination [falls in love with] a woman
who embodies the ideal of beauty and fascination that he has long been
seeking.'"
So Steinberg makes it clear in the same fashion as Downes that Berlioz and
the fictional character depicted in the symphony are two different people.
Later, Steinberg quotes Berlioz's concert notes, which Berlioz intended to
be handed out at every performance. These are the words of Berlioz.
"Having become certain that his love goes unrecognized, the artist poisons
himself with opium. He dreams he has killed the woman he had loved, that
he is condemned, led to the scaffold, and that he is witnessing HIS OWN
EXECUTION."
Berlioz capitalized those last words, not me : )
]From reading these texts, it is clear to me that Berlioz himself did not
poison himself. The artist of his symphony, Berlioz's imagined and
fictional character, did. Some aspects of the symphony do reflect
Berlioz's life, but as for Berlioz being on drugs while composing the
piece, there is no evidence that Ive seen to support that, and quite a bit
of evidence to refute it.
If you really do have six sources that say Berlioz poisened himself, please
post them. I would be eager to read them.
Thanks!
Jon
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:09:34 -0500 (EST)
From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: another idea on e MTV request deal
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980605200331.543231355A-100000@drew.edu>
Hey Folks!
I was just watching MTV and Matt Pinfiled (one of the VJs) said to email
or called between 12:30-1:30 pm (or was it 1:30-2:30?) during the week to
get your videos on TV.
I was thinking about it, and I'm not so sure that everyone emailing MTV
onb a specific day is such a great idea. They're not a bunch of idiots.
It's not hard to figure out that if you get 10,000 emails on friday and
they all say "play Dream Theater's 'lie'", they're probably gonna assume
that all the die-hard fans agreed on this particular day to write them.
I have no idea if this would work, but what if we agreed on a month where
maybe 50-100 people write them each day asking them to play a Dream
Theater video. Maybe even less than that. If we funnel the emails in
gradually, they might actually believe that it's not just the die-hards
writing them.
Just an idea.
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 20:56:01 -0400
From: Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Vote
Message-ID: <0EU3009M6UKRJ7@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET>
On that German radio station vote
(www.swr3.de/cgi-bin/abstimmung/abstimm.cgi BMS is actually ahead of HY
by about 300 places so if you vote for DT you should definitely
vote for that song too...
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| Totikus totikus@hotmail.com |
| A Fortune In Midis - The Dream Theater Midi Page |
| http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/7767 |
| "A man must learn to cope, if his obsession's real |
| Suppression that he feels must turn to hope." |
| Dream Theater, "Take The Time" |
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:24:12 -0700
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Vote
Message-ID: <35789A3C.B3E72F12@pacbell.net>
Totikus wrote:
>
> On that German radio station vote
> (www.swr3.de/cgi-bin/abstimmung/abstimm.cgi BMS is actually ahead of
> HY by about 300 places so if you vote for DT you should definitely
> vote for that song too...
BMS is actually the song I was voting for until someone told me it
wasn't a single (?). (I have no clue because I don't buy singles)
There's room to vote for three songs, so we could vote for both :o)
..and don't forget Spock's Beard "June" ;o)
http://www.swr3.de/cgi-bin/abstimmung/abstimm.cgi
Lisa Marie "Jessie"
ytsegirl@pacbell.net
http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl/
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 23:06:04 -0400
From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: **Boots for sale**
Message-ID: <19980606030002.HPCI22706@239157822worldnet.att.net>
I'd apprecaite it if you so-called fans that manufacture your own discs
wouldn't follow this post with how to buy them from you instead. Asking for
some courtesy, rare on the internet these days.
My story:
Well, I finally found my dream guitar for sale used (Ibanez JS6000 Custom),
so I'm parting with boot CDs to pay for it. All prices are $30 per disc
FIRM, unless it comes to out-bidding one another. And for those who say
"why not buy the Bahr duplicates?" My answer is, you don't have to wait
four months for the ones below. I guarantee shipment within one week of
receiving your money order. You don't have to send cash through the mail,
AND I send the discs insured and registered, so you don't have to have
pesky e-mail battles with "fans" who could care less about screwing you.
Rush - Critical Mass (orig, 2CD)
- Mardi Gras (orig, 2CD)
DT - Subconscious (CD-R)
- Acoustic Dreams (CD-R)
- Darkest of Winters (orig)
- Precious Things (orig) **SOLD**
- When Dream and Today Unite (orig)
- Mind Control (orig, 2CD)
- Home Sweet Home (orig) **SOLD**
- Lords of Sound (orig, 2CD)
- Scenes From A Memory (orig) **SOLD**
As for a reference, my name's Andrew Forcier - commonly known as Buck
Stodgers. Ask around. People know me.
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 01:43:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Charlie Patel <patelc@ro.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT tablature books
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980606014145.17498B-100000@sh1.ro.com>
I'm too lazy to print. Where can I order the official DT tablature books
on the web (preferably inexpensively)? PLEASE RESPOND TO patelc@ro.com AS
I AM NOT A YTSEJAM SUBSCRIBER.
Thanks,
Charlie Patel
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 17:44:50 +1100 (EDT)
From: "Nikos@Tama-Greek band" <s9763230@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3962
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980606173446.6502B-100000@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au>
As Im sure you guys are aware, Hyperion, Australias only "proper" metal
band split almost 2 years ago. The magic vocalist,"Jimmy Georgopoulos"
has joined another band here in Melbourne by the name of "Eye Fear".
They are very progressive and have released a cd called "Edge of
Existance". This however, does not feature the new vocalist. The new
album we'll be out in two months. If you have the some previous
"Hyperion" albums I'm sure this new Eye Fear album will allow you to
remenise. Eye Fear is nothing without "Jim Georgopoulos", and Hyperion
were only the greatest because of him.................................
Long live "High pitched vocals and deadly screams".
Later
NIKOS
" Do unto others as they have done to you
But what the hell is this world coming to"
(Metallica)
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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:52:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: PhReEkY dEeK <lerxst@wam.umd.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Oh Yeah?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95q.980606034309.6251A-100000@rac9.wam.umd.edu>
]From out of the shadows Christopher Ptacek whispered:
> What about rackmounts with no built in sequencers, and just great
>sounds (I can use my PC as a sequencer... this is not for live playing.
>I'd get a KEYBOARDIST for live playing.)
try these:
roland jd-990
kawai k5kr
roland mks-80
waldorf pulse/pulse +
waldorf microwave II/XT
clavia nord rack
studio electronics se-1
korg wavestation A/D
and if you don't like these, then you bore me.
- sLyY
-- Trek|RockShox|Shimano|Continental|Specialized|White Bros.
/\/ \ /\ /\
/\/ \/\ \/\/ __o / \/\/
/\ / / / \/ / _'\<,_ / \/
/ ..... \ .. (*)/'(*).. ..
-- Pakkrat studio site: http://www.ee.umd.edu/~lerxst/pakkrat "serving your synthesis needs"------------------------------
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 02:58:56 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Drugs and the Ryche Message-ID: <3578F6C0.35EB@bellsouth.net>
Now, as many of you can tell from my sig, I'm a big QR fan, and let me say this, that anyone who says that great music can't be created using drugs(if anyone said that), is a total idiot. DeGarmo has been on drugs, as any QR fan knows, yet he's done some marvelous work. I personally love Promised Land probably more than any other QR album, and I can say this about it(and I can't say this for most albums), there is not a SINGLE song on it I don't like. Now, you look at other musicians, as I've read, it seems as though a few DT members smoke some, although it's not proven and I don't want to say that they definitely do. You look back at the Beatles, Sgt. Pepper's and the White Album, two of the greatest rock albums of all time, were written while they were drugged up. You look at the jazz world, same thing, Charlie Parker did some of his most incredible solos while he was high on heroin. Does this mean that I'm advocating drug use? Not at all, though it may sound like it. Even Charlie Parker got SEVERLY pissed when he would see them follow what he did, using drugs. All I'm saying is don't put down someone for using them when they are still writing and performing some great music. -- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche
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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 1998 03:20:08 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: John Wesley Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980606032008.007bc390@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
I was surfing on http://www.bvbmusic.com/explorer/featured_artist/index.html and I read a review about an album by John Wesley, the review says it is considered the male tori amos, and that he has opned for progressive bands, has anyone heard about him or heard his music? please let me know if this is good.
thanks
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