YTSEJAM Digest 3978
Today's Topics:
1) skadz rules
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
2) mosh is a freak,
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3977
by ReikiFox@aol.com
4) Jason Becker
by Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
5) OAN records
by "Chris Milne" <cmilne@wam.umd.edu>
6) Re: Calling all the CaliCrew
by SoulShker@aol.com
7) bootlegs
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com>
8) re: The Welcome catfight
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
9) Royal Hunt - Paradox (NDTC)
by Andrew Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
10) FAQ, Discog, Bio, John Wesley
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
11) Big boobs, loud music
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
12) RE: Female Jammers...this is just kidding
by "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
13) Re: The Welcome catfight
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
14) Re: Savatage
by bj reurich <reurich@pbq.com.au>
15) And an apres-work post...
by "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
16) Re: Complaining about Complainging about Complaining
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
17) Re: FAQ, Discog, Bio, John Wesley
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
18) RE: Queensryche & prog girls
by Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@students.wisc.edu>
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:45:03 -0400
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
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Subject: skadz rules
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:45:31 -0400
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Subject: mosh is a freak,
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:54:44 EDT
From: ReikiFox@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3977
Message-ID: <ae520809.357ec865@aol.com>
never asked you to go bake a pie, lisa/jessie/whatever. simply asking for a
little bit of respect. yes, to whomever said it, we are a rare breed, so why
the fucking catfights? i never wrote anything to get blasted, i basically
asked why no one writes about DT much. i got my earful and now i understand,
so it's cool. : )
on another note, thanks to keith i finally found the page with the dates i was
looking for, but now where do i go to purchase them??? what ticket org. is in
charge of these things?????
me <------feeling a bit lost with this......
grassyass
Nicole
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:56:14 +0200
From: Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
To: DT mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Jason Becker
Message-ID: <357EC8BE.3CC7@wxs.nl>
A few months ago, I read somewhere that Jason Becker was doing better,
that he could move his pectoral muscles and that things were improving
in general. I immediately tried to confirm this by mailing to Pat,
Jason's manager. She used to be reachable at jason@guitarists.com, but
that now bounces. Can someone assist me? I am dying to know if things
are really looking up for poor Jason.
Oh yeah, those of you who have not in their possession "Perspective" by
Jason Becker should flail themselves, cut off their testicles and then
run out to the shop and buy *two* copies to do penance! :-)
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:00:50 -0400
From: "Chris Milne" <cmilne@wam.umd.edu>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: OAN records
Message-ID: <000a01bd9499$b4744db0$09b3c1d1@dvo.umd.edu>
Anyone ordered any CD's from OAN records? Any opinion's?
Thanks,
Chris
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:08:05 EDT
From: SoulShker@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Calling all the CaliCrew
Message-ID: <4ecfdc8a.357ecb87@aol.com>
All the CaliCrew I need you to email me..I'm putting together a party list and
need all your email addys so if you're in Cali or close and wanna be on
it...then mail me!
Celeste*C.C. SoulShaker
http://www.dreamt.org/jessie/ytsemirror/
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:13:49 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: bootlegs
Message-ID: <357ECCDD.EC01666D@bdm.com>
One good thing about bootlegs is it is the real thing. There are no
overdubs and rarely any editing. I'm sure most of you know the history
of Kiss Alive II, where some songs weren't actually ever done live and
how the corwd noise is from a Monday Night Football game. With bootlegs,
mistakes by the band aren't fixed. Its the real deal. With a legitimate
live release, you don't know if it is 100% the way it was recorded. Also
a lot of times when bands put out a live album, all the songs aren't
always from the same show. So a lot of times bootlegs offer a real
experience of the show.
As for Billy Williams, didn't he hit like 3-400 homers and is or was a
borderline hall of famer for a long time? Did he ever make the HOF?
NP:Jethro Tull-Original Masters
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:11:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: The Welcome catfight
Message-ID: <19980610181115.19553.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com>
>Lisa Marie z-snapped:
>>"Oooh! I think this is my cue. So, because I'm FEMALE, I can't voice
my
opinion? Should I have baked some cookies instead?
>>Hey, I call em how I see em... or maybe I'm just a bitch."
>Lisa...get back in the kitchen and make me a pie!
>And get barefoot while
>you are at it! You might be a bitch but I am THE >bitch, ( and
that's Ms.Bitch to you ;))
Oh boy! Catfights! Hold on, I'll get the Wesson oil and a video
camera! This could be bigger than Tommy and Pamela! ;o)
TIC, BH
And then Fran Dresher says "That's sexist."
Nigel Tufnel, clearly clueless, replies "Wot's wrong with being sexy?"
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 98 11:30:54 -0700
From: Andrew Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: "A daily dose of Ytsejam..." <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Royal Hunt - Paradox (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199806101831.LAA12653@network-services.uoregon.edu>
Just a quick question. Did anyone see Royal Hunt on the tour for the
album "Paradox" ? I understand that they played the album in its
entirety, then came out again with other tracks. If anyone saw them, I
would appreciate it greatly if you could give me a review or an overview
the concert. Thanks.
Andrew
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are in a sad state. -FZ
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:13:04 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FAQ, Discog, Bio, John Wesley
Message-ID: <01BD94B2.3FFA4DE0@201.rotterdam2.gironet.nl>
I just wrote :
> Oh yeah, Explorers Club's "Age Of Impact" got pushed back to
> July 27th...
Oops... make that the 28th.
Mark
Mark Bredius
____________________________________________________________
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* http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: 06-10-1998
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:03:25 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>, eckie@asu.edu
Subject: Big boobs, loud music
Message-ID: <357ED87D.94094C5E@imap1.asu.edu>
Now that I got yer attention....I'd like to complain about that Chris
Paycheck guy complaining about the ytsejam content not being filled to
the brim with complaints about people complaining about others
complaining about the lack of Dream Theater content! Just who do you
think you are, buddy? I should have cousin Joey come over to your house
with a bag full of rubber bands and have him hang you from the ceiling
fan by your testicles while he replaces all of your CD collection with
Right Said Fred variant remixes, IN EVERY FUCKING LANGUAGE! HOW YOU
LIKE DEM BANANAS?!
Mike Portnoy's reading this wondering where all the cool talk about
SYMPHONY-X PLAYING POWERMAD IN BALTIMORE THIS AUGUST is, or Derek's
probably wondering if we still think he's gayer than a hootenanny
(personally, I wanna know where the dude shops. Just once I'd like to
walk downtown Phoenix in pressed velvet and leather! I'd need a gun
too....). You want off topic run-on sentences? I'm your man!
And I think Mike Bahr would agree!
Now onto the beefcake....
In a message dated something or other, ReikiFox said out loud:
>> let me clarify my position, maybe this time it will make more sense. the part that truly stinks is that it seems that the FEMALE jammers are a little more snide than the rest, which is saddening. There are so few women that listen to or produce prog rock that i don't see why they feel the need to jump up my snatch the first post i write.<<
Women in prog rock? WOMEN IN PROG ROCK?! THERE'S NO CRYING IN PROG
ROCK! The tits get in the way!
How does Micheal Romeo do it then, you ask? Man boobs are quite an
interesting thing, you see, they are not as sensitive as wimmin boobs so
you can really shove the guitar under there, and even use your right or
left breast to mute the strings for them really wild rythm figures. Jon
Oliva of Savatage pioneered the man boob guitar technique but nobody
could ever figure out what he was doing...we all looked at his hands,
and he's always flashing those weird gang signs during a performance
just to throw us off guard. That, and he was a lefty.
Lisa Marie retorted like she had common sense or something, and then
Coldfire popped out of the shadows, fast like ninja:
Three words: YOU GO LISA!
/me hi5z Lisa, z-snaps and walks off....
Who do you think you are? A self-righteous black woman on the Jerry
Springer show working full time at a the Great Alaskan Bush Company?
I've always wondered what the hell that side-to-side swaying head thing
they did after z-snapping was meant to do. I always wanted to do a
round house kick and see how far I could make the bitch's head sway...YA
BABY! GIT BACK IN THE KITCHEN!!!
Disclaimer for said opinions: ;^D
~Eckie "Swedish Penis Enlagers and their Many Uses: This is my bag
baby," 'Danger' Powers
P.S.- Uhm. Dream Theater rules and I wanna grow up to be like Tiger
Woods AND John Petrucci.
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:33:50 -0700
From: "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Female Jammers...this is just kidding
Message-ID: <C5B7060FE2DCD011A8730060B01A6244322D78@RTP_EXCH>
Lisa Marie Wrote
>ReikiFox@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> let me clarify my position, maybe this time it will make more sense.
>> the part that truly stinks is that it seems that the FEMALE jammers
>> are a little more snide than the rest, which is saddening.
>Oooh! I think this is my cue. So, because I'm FEMALE, I can't voice my
>opinion? Should I have baked some cookies instead?
>Hey, I call em how I see em... or maybe I'm just a bitch.
Actually, any female that threatens the male ego is
considered a bitch! (Just kidding, I can hardly stand
the non-thinking yes-bimbo's that our society seems
to doddle over.) In reality I think some of the male
jammers can be bitchier than I've EVER seen the
female jammers.
Jim
"What reward is a banquet of red wine and bread,
when you hunger for life but on death you are fed?"
- M. Walkyer - The Best of Enemies (Wulf's Tale)
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:29:27 -0700
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Welcome catfight
Message-ID: <357EECA7.CF96C2C9@pacbell.net>
ReikiFox@aol.com wrote:
>
> never asked you to go bake a pie, lisa/jessie/whatever.
It's Carol that wants the pie... you can tell us apart because *I'M* the Mary,
*SHE'S* the Rhoda. (10 points to whomever guesses that reference) ;o)
> simply asking for a little bit of respect. yes, to whomever said it, we are
> a rare breed, so why the fucking catfights? i never wrote anything to get
> blasted, i basically asked why no one writes about DT much.
This is not a gender issue... I'd have the same response to a person of the
male persuasion. It's about common sense. When subscribing to a list (or
resubscribing, whatever) you can't make your first post a complaint without
expecting to get some shit for it. Simple as that.
Brian Hansen wrote:
>
> Oh boy! Catfights! Hold on, I'll get the Wesson oil and a video
> camera!
Promises promises!! You ALWAYS forget the video camera Brian!
;o)
Lisa Marie "Jessie"
ytsegirl@pacbell.net
http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:51:50 +1000
From: bj reurich <reurich@pbq.com.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Savatage
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980610125150.00c120f4@mail.pbq.com.au>
asmodel Wrote:
>Dead winter dead,in a few words its the best concept
album ever,yeah even
>better than Operation Mindcrime(imho)..its their best concept work
>too,both wake of magellan and streets cannot compare to it,trust me
>these are the must-buy..
Of course, some Sava fans prefer both The Wake of Magellan and Street over
DWD - but then thats the beauty of this band isn't it?
>as about the rest..dontdontdont even think of buying fight for the
>rock..even savatage themselves call it "fight for the shit" :)
No arguments here - although I still bought it as I'm a 'completist' , and
btw do catch myself 'enjoying' it from time to time. Definately their
weakest effort though,
>dungeons i dont have,nor handful of rain,but they arent too good..at least
>so i've heard from the most dedicated Sava-fans.
>hm did i forget anything..streets is great too but i'm afraid u already
>have to buy many more :)
Dungeons I love (early savatage not to far removed from what I hear on
Sirens), and Handful Of Rain - well, I was overjoyed when I got this - one
of my favourite ever Savatage albums , and I consider myself a dedicated
fan. O' course, again, that's the beauty of this Band- all thier albums are
great (except maybe one), and different people tend to find 'favourites'
from different points in Savahistory.
That's All,
Thanks,
Rock on,
Zajk.
NP - Galactic Cowboys- s/t
About to play - Saviour Machine - Legend Part II
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:02:13 -0400
From: "Thomas Forcier" <thomas.o.forcier@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: And an apres-work post...
Message-ID: <19980610215619.BVFG26112@239157822worldnet.att.net>
Hello,
On the ever-amazing Mike Kenneally:
>Isn't he the guy who played guitar and keyboards with Steve Vai
If that's all you noticed about Mr. Kenneally, you missed half the
show...:) He also played guitar and made the show more animated. As if that
were possible at a Vai show...
>From: Mathew and Melissa <palze@powerweb.net>
Hmm... Did someone get an e-mail alias? ;)
On the Beard:
>Ummm... is that like a good thing? (I hope!)
I followed this with "DAMN!" :) I've waited three weeks for this CD only to
be too exhausted to hear it in its entirety. *I wish that I had Jessie's
Girl!* Oh, wait. That makes no sense. Or it might, but I don't want to go
there...
>From: ReikiFox@aol.com
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: the welcome committee
Fight fire with fire? Never seems to work, but everyone gives it their
shot... And way to go with the sexist comments! No one is quick another to
toss the word "bitch" out in here, but nice of you to do so! Just keep in
mind that you can never *really* know who is what sex on the internet. Just
ask Bafu...
By the way, can anyone refer me to an internet site that has decent prices
on effect systems. Musician's Friend has yet to come down on the Boss
GX-700, and I did find one place, Musician's Store, that has a great price,
thus I question the sincerity of their offer.
Stodgers
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 14:59:12 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Complaining about Complainging about Complaining
Message-ID: <199806102159.OAA18705@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before proofreading..., someone@enteract.com said:
>
>You know, with all of this complaining about someone who is
>complaining, I just thought I'd complain that we haven't had a digest
>with 100% complaint about a complaint about a complaint. I'd like to
>see that changed. Anyone interested?
>
>
>Go Home and Practice!
>
>Chris Ptacek
>someone@prognosis.com
>http://www.prognosis.com/madsman
GO FUCK A FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCKER FUCK!
-The Doc
--
"Right from the start I've fallen. Slow motion I try to scream. Nobody hears
the muted cries. Dreams are crashing from side to side..." -Living in Fear,
Dali's Dilemma.
http://progmetal.gmsnet.com ----> drkhoe@gmsnet.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 15:02:10 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: FAQ, Discog, Bio, John Wesley
Message-ID: <199806102202.PAA18735@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before proofreading..., Mark Bredius said:
>
> That'll be fixed as soon as Pat's new version goes public.
> I can't edit the FAQ, not even to update the name of it's
> maintainer, because I only mirror it. Simple as that.
Are you trying to say something, Mark? :)
> Oh yeah, Explorers Club's "Age Of Impact" got pushed back to
> July 27th... So now we've got ChromaKey in June, Explorer's
> Club in July and Platypus in August (17th for Europe). :)
Dali's Dilemma, tentatively: July 14th RAHH
On a sidenote, Mike Keneally and Beer for Dolphins absolutely rips ass... I
saw them live before Spocks and they tear...
-The Doc
--
"Right from the start I've fallen. Slow motion I try to scream. Nobody hears
the muted cries. Dreams are crashing from side to side..." -Living in Fear,
Dali's Dilemma.
http://progmetal.gmsnet.com ----> drkhoe@gmsnet.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 17:18:14 -0500
From: Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@students.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Queensryche & prog girls
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980610171813.00752610@students.wisc.edu>
Says Jim:
>
>
>*** WARNING THIS LETTER CONTAINS AN OPINION!!! ***
>
***Warning, this letter contains a conflicting opinion!!! ***
>>Dont get me wrong Dave,in my opinion Geoff Tate is the BEST singer
>>(yeah,better than
>>Dio,Dickinson,LaBrie,Gillan,Ozzy etcetctec) and i have fallen for his
>>voice a long
>>time ago.
>
Ding, ding, ding. What has he won? It's a major league base... aw
nevermind...
> myself when the warning was released. His used more opera on the
> warning than just about any other album, holding/rolling notes high
> enough to make my testicles crawl up. Rage for Order was their attempt
This is a good thing? I like my testicles to stay where they are. IMHO
when Tate sings high, screechy stuff he sounds the same as other metal
singers singing high, screechy stuff. It's the lower, more somber parts
where the quality and tone of his voice really stand out.
> at cheesing out in the late 80's. Don't get me wrong there a quite a few
> GREAT songs off of that album but being that album was sandwiched
> inbetween The Warning and Mindcrime, well it tends to pale alot.
> Promised Land came out and the vocals dropped another notch for Tate
> then Hear in the Now Frontier and after hearing that lame ass album I
Hear in the Now Frontier was worthless crap, I think we can all agree on
that. The Promised Land on the other hand was not. There seems to be kind
of a love/hate split on this album with QR fans. I love it. It's the best
album they've ever done. The production on that album is the best I've
ever heard from anybody. Tate's parts on Promised Land were awesome. I
thought Empire was one of his better albums as well. Of course it's not
mentioned here, as QR fans are generally embarrassed that Queensryche had a
commercially successful album, meanwhile all the DT fans are upset because
DT hasn't had one. Rage for Order was really a mixed bag. Some nice
guitar parts and arrangements, but generally not the best vocal parts.
>From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
>Subject: Re: the welcome committee
>
>Oooh! I think this is my cue. So, because I'm FEMALE, I can't voice my
>opinion? Should I have baked some cookies instead?
>
>Hey, I call em how I see em... or maybe I'm just a bitch.
>
>
>> There are so few women that listen to or
>> produce prog rock that i don't see why they feel the need to jump up my
snatch
>> the first post i write.
>
hehehehe
HISSSSS!!! Meowwww!!!
Yeah, baby, yeah! That's what this list needed! Liven it up a bit. =)
Later,
Joe
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