YTSEJAM Digest 3986
Today's Topics:
1) Detroit Savatage review (VERY belated) SOME SPOILERS
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
2) joke...
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
3) Re: New Live Stuff...
by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
4) Re:Suggestions for CD's
by Earendil Asmodel <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
5) Big boobs, loud music
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
6) Mike Portnoy & Chromakey
by AL <al@isd.net>
7) Re: marco,what to buy
by Magnus.Lind@kunskapskretsen.se (Magnus Lind)
8) Oop,s
by AL <al@isd.net>
9) Re: To all female bashers
by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
10) Myung & Rand
by Uroborosss@aol.com
11) Re: Dogs with bees in their mouths...
by Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org>
12) Re: big boobs, loud music
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 00:39:52 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>, Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@hotmail.com>,
Subject: Detroit Savatage review (VERY belated) SOME SPOILERS
Message-ID: <3584A598.6D9341DA@home.com>
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Well, here's my (very) belated Savatage show review (the show was
Wednesday at St. Andrews - Detroit).
*sarcasm on* Well, it all started out rather well. *sarcasm off* My
friend I was going with ended up screwing me over at the last minute. I
mean, doors were at 8, and we're talking it's 7:15 or so (and I live 30
minutes away). So I frantically start calling and paging everybody I
know..... to NO AVAIL.
The thought of not going crossed my mind VERY BRIEFLY, but then I said
"fuck it. I'll go by my damn self."
I did hold hope that I'd run into some Ytsejammers, or Sava-listers.
I arrived 10 minutes or so before doors were scheduled. The line was
surprisingly short (MUCH shorter than the DT line.... at either show).
So I'm standing in line, and these three guys behind me were discussing
what the setlist was going to be like. So I (being the informed
internet-er) chime in with what I've been hearing about the setlist. So
we all start BSing for a few. Of course, I heartily plugged Dream
Theater to the two who were relatively unfamiliar with them (only heard
PMU). The one guy runs across the street and brings back a six-pack
around 8:10 or so (MMMMM Labatts!). Very kindly he offered me one
(Thanks!). Of course, at the very moment I popped the can, they open
the doors (doh!). So that turned into the fastest six-pack slam in
history!
Anyways, as soon as we get in.... I see the tee-shirt rack, and the
awesome, ass-kicking TWoM shirt they had! SO I make a bee-line for the
stand, while the other guys head to the bar (and buy me another beer...
thanks again!). This shirt kicks ass..... it's blue, with the (old)
Sava-logo in red, and the TWoM burning ship on the front. On the back
is a great Gary Smith painting of a castle overlooking the sea, with a
viking-esque boat. Also there's a small figure with a lantern (or
hourglass?) ascending the steps to the castle. And there's the faces of
the Grim Reaper and an old man (Father Time?) merged into the mountain
the castle is built on. VERY COOL!
Oh, and they had autographed pictures of the band for sale as well (very
cool...... but not as meaningful as the DT pic the band actually signed
in my presence!).
As I'm leaving the stand, I saw fellow Ytsejammer Partha Mukhopadhyay!
(Good to see you again Partha!) Now I wasn't so pissed about going
alone!
Partha and I headed towards the stage, and captured 2nd row! And later
on, the guy in front of us moved, and Partha and I both snuck up to the
FIRST ROW! By the way, we were right in front of Jon!
The opening act (forgot their name...... somethingoranotherPhobia or
something) was IMO a re-used riff metal band, not all that good.
Then they started playing some Doctor Butcher over the sound system (I
didn't recognize it.... but someone pointed it out to me). The crowd
started getting excited! Then "The Ocean". The noise level increased.
We could see Sava just offstage, waiting (didn't even recognize Pitrelli
without his beard!).
Sava came out and proceeded to jump into "Welcome"
(awesome.....awesome).
Two things I've got to say off the bat.....
1. Savatage sounded GREAT. FUCKING absolutely GREAT.
2. Energy, enthusiasm, working the crowd. I've never seen a band
having this kind of fun, and interplay with the audience (even DT).
member review:
Jeff Plate. I couldn't really see him that good behind his rack (and
from my angle, Pitrelli was in the way), but the drums sounded really
good all night.
Chris Caffery and Al Pitrelli. These guys just kicked ass all night.
I've been curious about who played the solos, and they traded them off
fairly evenly. Both of them were excellent (it did seem like Pitrelli
was generally turned up louder than Caffery). One note: Pitrelli
should be a spokesperson for a cigarette company.......... the guy
doesn't stop!
Johnny Lee Middleton. This guy has alot of energy, and obviously has
ALOT of FUN! He was just all smiles, all night. It was fun to watch
him. Sounded great too!
Jon Oliva. I've always been a Zak fan, as opposed to Jon (but that's
also based on limited Jon exposure), but this night he made a believer
out of me! He sounded great on the songs he sang! Also the keys
sounded excellent as well. And the best thing...... his interaction
with the crowd was awesome (more on this later).
Zak Stevens. He sounded truly brilliant, and when he wasn't singing he
was the world's best cheerleader. He was constantly working the crowd.
Some (not all of 'em) musical highlights:
"Chance" The whole song including the harmony part!
"Jesus Saves" Wow!
"Turns to Me" Zak kicks ass!
"Morning Sun" This one sounded excellent!
"The Hourglass" Pitrelli played piano for the last part of the song!
(a cool highlight).
"Blackjack Guillotine" This one kicked all kinds of ass!
"The Wake Of Magellan" Everybody but Jeff sang the harmony part.
"Believe" This was the first time I heard this song (just got Streets
on Friday), and it's the one that really sold me on
Jon's vocals.
"Gutter Ballet" Zak and Jon traded vocals on this one, and it sounded
absolutely JUST LIKE the Japan Live '94 version! I
love the "kill the unicorn....." part!
"Tonight He Grins Again" Also the first time I've heard this one!
note: The 4 and 5 man harmonies all sounded KILLER! (honestly better
than I thought they would).
Some FUN STUFF highlights!:
This one guy behind us in a Red Wings jersey. He was seriously excited,
and kept chanting "O-LIV-A, O-LIV-A!"
Also, a few times he yelled "Old City Bar!". I know it's a song on the
TSO disc, but what's the significance?
One time he yelled it, and Jon got a big laugh out of it (he was singing
at the time..... and you could actually hear him chuckle over the lyrics
for a second!)
More Jon interacting.... He pointed out quite a few people in the crowd
(including the Red Wing guy a few times). I'm also 90% sure he pointed
me out once! And getting stared down and pointed at by Jon is actually
kinda frightening! He's got that EVIL look!
A few times Jon had a quick vocal exchange with folks in the balcony,
but I couldn't make it out.
Zak's cheerleading. He was CONSTANTLY leading the crowd! And I can't
count the times he signaled the crowd to clap/ raise their hands. And
after audience singing parts, he's always give an enthusiastic,
encouraging THUMBS UP. He was all smiles, as well.
At one point, Jon and Zak went offstage (I think it was during
"Blackjack Guillotine"), and when they came out....... they were
waltzing together! They waltzed over to Caffery, and Chris looked at
them, then looked to the crowd (with an absolutely hilarious "oh God"
expression) and shook his head no. Then Jon did this fake butt-grab to
Chris! Hilarious!
Also, during the waltz episode, Jon got behind Chris (where Chris
couldn't see him), and played air guitar. He REALLY exaggerated it
though...... and purposely looked goofy doing it, making fun of Chris!
Quotes:
"......and on amazing lead vocals, Zak Stevens! And the rest of us
alcoholics on backup." - Jon Oliva
"I tell you one thing. I'm betting all my fuckin' money on the Red
Wings!" - Jon Oliva
(finger motion) "1 - 0" - Zak Stevens, referring to the Red Wings'
lead on the Caps.
Aftermath: Well, for one thing...... Partha and I were hoarse as hell!
This was the loudest I've ever yelled at a concert (and Partha said the
same thing). I would've stuck around to try to run into the band, but I
had to wake up at 5 a.m. for work, so I called it a (great) day.
The verdict: Without a doubt, the second best concert I've EVER SEEN
(topped only my May's Dream Theater show.... and that had the unfair
advantage of me meeting the band after).
ANYBODY WHO HAS A CHANCE TO SEE THESE GUYS......... TAKE IT!!!
Well until next time (who's going to DT/ELP/DP at Pine Knob?),
- Joe DeAngelo
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"So what can I tell you
If life's the length of this play
Perhaps God gave the answers
To those with nothing to say
But then the years are forgiving
If God's forgiving in kind
Perhaps we'll all find our answers
somewhere in time"
- Savatage
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:10:17 -0700
From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: joke...
Message-ID: <35859BC9.3956@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
Here's a joke that I think sums up any mailing list I've ever been
involved in.....
Sorry for the length though.....
Cheers
Paul D.
Q: How many internet mail list discussion group subscribers does it take
to change a light bulb?
A: 1,331:
1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light
bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed
differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
bulbs.
53 to flame the spell checkers
156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb
discussion and its inappropriateness
to this mail list.
41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take
this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and
alt.punctuation about changing light
bulbs be stopped.
111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts
**are** relevant to this mail list.
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
buy the best light bulbs, what
brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are
faulty.
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected
URLs.
3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this
list which makes light bulbs
relevant to this list.
33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all
headers and footers, and then add "Me
Too."
12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot
handle the light bulb controversey.
19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave
it here.
143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 01:19:59 -0500 (EST)
From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: New Live Stuff...
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980615011639.543290171B-100000@drew.edu>
> A new live cd from DT - I am happy, I hope Elektra don't drop
> the ball on this. Please make it a double and a video to match.
Man, this year has been kick ass as far as new CDs are concerned.
Ty Tabor's solo album, upcoming King's X CD
Van Halen
LTE
Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
live albums from Rush DT, and Fates Warning
Queensryche
Explorer's Club
Chroma Key
And several others.
Brandon
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:52:40 +0200 (CEST)
From: Earendil Asmodel <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:Suggestions for CD's
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980615094724.614D-100000@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
>I'd like to ask you for a suggestion :
>I like Symphonic Progmetal and Symphonic Powermetal :
>My fav bands, DT apart, are Angra, Royal Hunt, Savatage...
>I would like to buy these CD's :
>Stratovarius : Visions
>Symphony X : The divine wings of tragedy
>Spock's Beard : The last one ... :)
>In what order should I buy them ?
>And then, what else would you suggest me to buy ?
>Thanx in advance...
>Bye
>Marco
Stratovarius fan huh? Their best album is "Episode",think of nothing
else..but if you have that one Visions is a must buy too..Symphony X too
theres another great band called Rhapsody.Their debute album was releaseed
some months ago and its the ultimate symphonic/power metal,u'll luv it!
*cant remember the name though,argh!* i am not sure u can call it
symphonic power but Blind Guardian's "Nightfall in Middle Earth" is great
as well..thats all (i'd suggest u buy SYmphony X first)
Asmodel
ps: 10 hours to go! Dream Theater in Athens! *drooooooool*
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| Eala Earendel engla beorhtast |
| ofer middangeard monnum sended. |
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 02:48:54 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Cc: "'TAFKAB'" <uroborosss@aol.com>
Subject: Big boobs, loud music
Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34170A3F6@ms.kallback.com>
> From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
> I would also like to complain about the lack of big boobs in the
> letter,
> especially as it mentioned women in prog rock. If you are going
> to
> mention big boobs and prog rock in the same post, I want to see
> tits
> jiggling to 13/4. Give the public what it wants.
> I would also like to complain about the lack of big boobs in my
> sweater.
> If members of the posting public are going to pay for expensive
> plastic
> surgery, the least they deserve is results.
> Sincerely,
> Brigadier Smith-Smythe
> (Mrs.)
>
This sounds like Bafu's dream woman! Too bad she's married.
Trevor
"I assume full responsibility for my actions, except the
ones that are someone else's fault."
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 06:12:41 -0500
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Mike Portnoy & Chromakey
Message-ID: <358501A9.B5CBB7CD@isd.net>
-- Ryan Whitaker wrote:
>On another note... Everybody just loooves Mike Portnoy. Do you all think
>the other band members are at least a tad jealous of the attention he gets?
>When JP was signing autographs after one of the shows I went to this past
>May, I heard people ask him at least a couple times, "Where's Mike Portnoy?"
>That's got to be annoying.
I think the reason Mike Portnoy is more "popular," is because he is the most
tangible band member. No other member of DT has ever been as accessible
as Mike. That will boost the popularity quotient in a NY minute.
Let's face it, they all will have a fair degree of popularity on sheer
talent alone, the big difference is when you're a fan of you fans.
Next topic:
I downloaded all the Chromakey MP3 files. IMHO, Chromakey sounds
like a band of pink Floyd wannabe's, meets Gary Numan. That's to bad
because there are some great musicians playing this .......Stuff?
Sorry, just a first listen opinion.
I'm now being fitted for an asbestos suit.
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE ProgtologistSwitchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 12:10:00 +0100 From: Magnus.Lind@kunskapskretsen.se (Magnus Lind) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: marco,what to buy Message-ID: <msg612.thr-6e1cb978.a2c2a@kunskapskretsen.se>
Hi Marco ! If you like symphonic progmetal please come on over to our site and have a look (and listen ) We are Treasure Land and we mix classical,latin and whatever music that comes along with metal.
http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-48707.se
Take Care=20 //Mangan
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 06:17:36 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Oop,s Message-ID: <358502D0.779EE492@isd.net>
Here is the "R" I forgot (fan of youR fans.) ^ I really should proof read these BEFORE I send them...
-- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:18:47 -0400 From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: To all female bashers Message-ID: <36E02D8151FFD1118C1C00600808ACE5029122@HAMSXHA2>
]From: Bunny1682@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: To all the female bashers
>One quick note: I was jsut reading all those disparaging to women remarks on >the list, and I would like to say that women have as much right to enjoy >quality music as men.
Who said you couldn't?
Nicholas Giannotti JointSTARS Contracts giannottin@hanscom.af.mil "Save the whales - collect the whole set."
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:28:54 EDT From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Myung & Rand Message-ID: <95c0533a.35852197@aol.com>
> From: RushLLP@aol.com > Subject: Bafu, Atlas, Rand, Myung > > Since the oh-so-eloquent Bafu has introduced Atlas Shrugged (a book which I > have just completed reading)
Then you're about half an Atlas Shrugged past where I am at the moment.
> to the Jam, I was wondering... has John Myung read it?
I think at one time it was his favorite book.
> Yes, I know, this seems like a weird question, but there's this one > section of the book where Hank Rearden "has no time for pain, no energy for > anger", and later walks with "confident self-control".
Yeah I couldn't believe that part when I read it... Paul Cashman kept telling me to keep my eyes open... ;)
> The similarities were too much for me to pass up... I guess I'm just hungering > for some YtseTrivia... :) > > --Matthew
Who or What is the Dust Pan Ghost?
Bafu Vai
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:37:29 +0000 From: Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dogs with bees in their mouths... Message-ID: <01IY9CAUQYSM91VUOZ@carleton.edu>
> In DT related-news, does the Minnesota DP/DT/ELP show have any age > restrictions? I know a couple of my friends who are going to be high school
Well, my guess would be that it's an 18+ show, since it's at a casino. Of course, that's just a guess...
-id
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:26:45 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: big boobs, loud music Message-ID: <35852F25.D58B36F8@home.com>
> I would also like to complain about the lack of big boobs in my sweater. > If members of the posting public are going to pay for expensive plastic > surgery, the least they deserve is results. > > Sincerely, > Brigadier Smith-Smythe > (Mrs.) > > P.S. I would also like to complain about any followups to this post.
*ROFLMAO* Monty, is that you Monty? ;-)
- Joe D.
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