YTSEJAM Digest 3992
Today's Topics:
1) Attention Nick Bogie!
by "Eugene E. Szucs" <eeszucs@worldnet.att.net>
2) unsubscribing...
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
3) All you Symphony X fans: Pack your bag
by T_Karrde@prodigy.com (MR STEVE J VOGEL)
4) Re-send of a Paul Gilbert review
by "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com>
5) Aaaaaaarghhhh!
by "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com>
6) Re: All you Symphony X fans: Pack your bags for Baltimore. (DTC:AYK?)
by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
7) Ytsejam + Laxatives = ?
by Uroborosss@aol.com
8) Iced Earth?
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
9) Tempest, Magellan
by "Rosinski, Michal" <rosinmi@warsaw.whitecase.com>
10) FAQ?
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
11) Reporting from Lycabetous Theater-Athens (DTC)
by Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@cc.uoa.gr>
12) RE: Favorite...Portnoy?
by "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com>
13) Flight of the mumblebee
by Earendil Asmodel <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
14) WREKage...
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 21:58:11 -0400
From: "Eugene E. Szucs" <eeszucs@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Attention Nick Bogie!
Message-ID: <01bd9a5c$8c76b320$LocalHost@gene-szucs>
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Nick,
Sorry to bring this to the Jam forum, but I have tried repeatedly to =
try and get in touch with you regarding my FYS order, which was sent in =
well over a month ago! Heck, I even e-mailed you just for vericfication =
that my money order came in, but I have heard NOTHING! So please, write =
me ASAP, so I can cathc up to date on whether I'll be getting it soon or =
not. Heck, even if it's just a scam, I'd like to know! Just e-mail me =
a message with the word "SUCKER" on it, and I can bring this matter to =
closure! This is not a flame. . . yet! So don't anyone light any =
flamethrowers just yet, I just got back from Canada, my SoC hasn't come =
in yet, FYS hasn't come, and I'm tired and stressed! I JUST WANT TO =
KNOW THE STATUS! Thanks anyone not involved that had to read this, I =
hope others aren't suffering the same situation! =20
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 12:14:35 -0700
From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: unsubscribing...
Message-ID: <3589671B.4B53@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
Sorry but I can't remember how to unsub....
I'm going away for three weeks.....
please private email....
Cheers
Paul D.
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:42:03, -0500
From: T_Karrde@prodigy.com (MR STEVE J VOGEL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: All you Symphony X fans: Pack your bag
Message-ID: <199806180242.WAA23500@mime4.prodigy.com>
I've just received an email from the Symphony X list, notifying
me that Symphony X has been CONFIRMED for the Powermad festival in
>>Baltimore on the weekend of August 21,22,23. How many Jammers will
be
there? The webpage for the festival itself has not been updated
recently,
but here is the URL: http://websnet.com/global/mad2.htm<<
I'm there... I may help them (The band)out a bit too <s>. They're not
getting any $$$ for this performance either...
____
Carpe Diem
Steve
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:33:59 -0600
From: "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com>
To: "The Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re-send of a Paul Gilbert review
Message-ID: <006101bd9a72$b9ab4340$526dd6ce@amd-k6200>
I sent this two days ago - no idea why it didn't show up . . .
Andrew Forcier wrote:
> Hey! I've been meaning to ask: anyone have the Paul Gilbert solo CD, King
>of Clubs? How is it? I see Bruce Bouillet had some involvement so is it a
>band album with vocals, etc., or just instrumental? Considering Mr. Big was
>one of my favorites in the "hair" era, I'm definitely intrigued.
>
Well . . . I've had it for about three weeks and only listened to it four
times, so I'm not the most qualified to review it, but I'll try -
Paul Gilbert indeed kicks booty when he cuts loose on guitar, but that
doesn't happen near enough on this disc. Ten of the twelve songs feature
Paul's rather soft vocals, and while he's a competent singer, he sure won't
scorch your undies like KJLB does.
All the songs, except one, are between 1:56 and 4:56 long. Fully half of
the songs sound rather "Beatle-esque", with tight harmonies, jangly guitars,
tambourines, and poppy melodies that are a little too "perfect". I used to
really enjoy this kind of music, but, well, it sure ain't prog. A couple of
the songs don't have a lead break at all - kinda weird for an album by a
noted "axeman" like Gilbert.
One standout is "The Jig", an acoustic version of a J.S. Bach melody that
is performed very impressively. "Bumblebee" (no relation to the recently
discussed "Flight of . . .") is a 70-ish kick-ass rock tune which
unfortunately fades out just when it gets interesting, as does "Double
Trouble", another rocker that's just too short. "Streetlights" is a smoky,
6/8 blues tune with a shreddin' solo that seems a little out-of-place.
Still, this is probably my favorite cut on the CD, one reason being that
Paul seems to put a little more emotion into the vocals.
You guitarists out there should like the last track, "The Jam", which
seems to be exactly that - a 19:35 long studio jam, which features Paul
tearin' it up and trading licks with Bruce Bouillet. This one fades IN
(sure sign of a real jam). Main problem with this tune - it gets more than
a little tedious, since the bass line never changes, and the pattern is,
frankly, dull - it's I - I - I - V for over 19 minutes, fer Ged's sake!
There is a double-time change-up, but not 'til 10:45 or so, and then it's
just the drums changing - the bass line plods along, exactly the same. At
11:45 it's back to the original tempo - then two minutes later back to
double-time, and STILL the bass line is unchanged! Sorry, but I think that
falls somewhat short of imaginative. Now, if you're here for the shredding,
you're gonna love this tune anyway, cuz Paul does plenty of that. I really
like the Robin Trower-influenced licks heard in several places, and the
"loosy-goosy" bends interspersed among the 64th notes, but then it ends -
and the ending sux. IMO, that is.
This one might make it back into the CD-changer a few times, but it's not
too likely to enjoy an extended stay. However, if you're a student of
guitar technique, you could do much worse than to study "The Jam". Steal
these licks, and be revered!
There ya go - my first review - shit, that's too much work for an old dude.
Hope somebody got something out of it . . .
Larry
Obligatory DTC - uhh, . . . um, JP might like the solos . . .
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:48:23 -0600
From: "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Aaaaaaarghhhh!
Message-ID: <006f01bd9a7c$b628eec0$526dd6ce@amd-k6200>
Sorry, kids! about the duplicate messages, that is. I sent the first one
on Monday night (about 1:30 a.m.). 46 hours later it still hasn't shown up,
so I send it again, and 5 minutes later the original makes the 'Jam! Lousy
timing - story of my life.
Larry
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 01:50:30 -0500 (EST)
From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: All you Symphony X fans: Pack your bags for Baltimore. (DTC:AYK?)
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980618014947.543308358A-100000@drew.edu>
> I've just received an email from the Symphony X list, notifying
> me that Symphony X has been CONFIRMED for the Powermad festival in
> Baltimore on the weekend of August 21,22,23. How many Jammers will be
> there? The webpage for the festival itself has not been updated recently,
> but here is the URL: http://websnet.com/global/mad2.htm
Anyone know where this Powermad festival is in baltimore? I live here and
I don't even know.
Brandon
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:45:04 EDT
From: Uroborosss@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytsejam + Laxatives = ?
Message-ID: <ea71e8c2.3588b772@aol.com>
> From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
> Subject: Again?
>
> This morning i finally received 70 ytsejam msgs..
> but i havent received anything since..
>
> whats up?
Didn't you know the jam has been suffering from constipation? Skadz fed it
some Metameusil. End of problem. Brace yourself for the next message-
blowout...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 02:52:20 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Iced Earth?
Message-ID: <3588B923.E671E69C@home.com>
What do you guys think of Iced Earth?
I haven't gotten anything by them yet... but I'm looking.
What do you recommend? "Dark Saga" sounds promising.
Thanks,
- Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 98 8:56:31 -0400
From: "Rosinski, Michal" <rosinmi@warsaw.whitecase.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tempest, Magellan
Message-ID: <B4FE88350122450F@smtp.whitecase.com>
Hi all!
Can anyone from here describe me the music style of the bands called
Tempest and Magellan. I have a possibility to buy it, but know nothing
about those bands.
Please, send your answers to my private address.
Thanx!!!
Mike
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:47:01 +0200
From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FAQ?
Message-ID: <v04003a00b1ae7548f4fe@[194.121.235.251]>
Hi!
>The FAQ is NOT just the DT FAQ... it's the Ytsejam FAQ as well.
I don't think so. If you want a Ytsejam FAQ, start one. I'd prefer to have
the two topics separated. Someone who wants to know the last words of PMU
doesn't care for questions like "Who is Bafu Vai anyway?"... ;-)
Later,
Steffen
-- Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com> THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.westend.com/TheMirror)------------------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 11:02:58 +0300 From: Michael Zachariadis <mzahar@cc.uoa.gr> To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Reporting from Lycabetous Theater-Athens (DTC) Message-ID: <3588C9B1.BAD3A73E@cc.uoa.gr>
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Hi there progsters
I thought that some of you might want to know how was the first DT show in Greece last monday night.
Well we where at the theater about 1 h before the beginning of the show. From the speakers we could hear all the songs that DT didn't include in the FII (is this usual?) plus the two songs that's in the HY single. The Concert started at 9:05 and finished 11:15. What I have to say is that the band was GREAT. JP a great player, and Mike... Mike"the spit man" is really crazy. I tried to watch his hands and feet but there was times that I lost him. Mike was really great but you already know that. By the way when you see Mike back in America don't get surprised by his short, blond hair. JM he is magician with his bass-guitar. JKLB is getting better as the time pass by. Derek, I'm sorry but I can not speak about his performance, because I just couldn't hear him. That was the only bad thing about this gig. The sound was terrible, and I know that the band had nothing to do with that. From what I know the didn't come here with their own equipment, and probably the man in the console was doing a shity job. Even JP was not content some times about their sound. I mean we could hear all right the drums, the guitar and the bass but we could just hear JKLB, and keys where buried 6 feet under. The main thing is that I really enjoyed the show, no matter how bad the sound was, and really hope that they come back some time in the next few years, for another concert, in a better place (Lycabetous Theater is not the best place in the world for such a concert), and with a better sound. I just hope that the band liked their fans in Greece. In memory I will always have the great solo Mike did. He also did that thing with the audience. He called two fans (unfortunately not me) to play drums with him. The first was not a drummer, but the second was, and he really kicked ass. Even Mike was surprised!?
Anyway the songs they played, by album and not by the order they played them (couse I don't remember) are:
WDADU Only: The Ytsejam intro of Fortune in Lies (not The Killing Hand. WHY?????????)
I&W Pull me Under Surrounded? (not very sure) Under a Glass Moon Medley: Metropolis-?-LTL (I think they don't play that last one very often, are they?)
AWAKE Caught in a Web Voices Lie intro of Mirror
ACOS I.The Crimson Sunrise II. Innocence VII. The Crimson Sunset
FII Peruvian Skies Burning my Soul Hell's Kitchen LITS Just Let me Breath TOT (the the whole truck)
LTE Paradigm Shift (by Mike & John)
and at a certain point the did little of Enter Sandman by Metallica.
That's it, Buy for now Mike Z.
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<HTML> <TT>Hi there progsters</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT> I thought that some of you might want to know how was the first DT show in Greece last monday night.</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT> Well we where at the theater about 1 h before the beginning of the show. From the speakers we could hear all the songs that DT didn't include in the FII (is this usual?) plus the two songs that's in the HY single. The Concert started at 9:05 and finished 11:15. What I have to say is that the band was GREAT. JP a great player, and Mike... Mike"the spit man" is really crazy. I tried to watch his hands and feet but there was times that I lost him. Mike was really great but you already know that. By the way when you see Mike back in America don't get surprised by his short, blond hair. JM he is magician with his bass-guitar. JKLB is getting better as the time pass by. Derek, I'm sorry but I can not speak about his performance, because I just couldn't hear him. That was the only bad thing about this gig. The sound was terrible, and I know that the band had nothing to do with that. From what I know the didn't come here with their own equipment, and probably the man in the console was doing a shity job. Even JP was not content some times about their sound. I mean we could hear all right the drums, the guitar and the bass but we could just hear JKLB, and keys where buried 6 feet under. The main thing is that I really enjoyed the show, no matter how bad the sound was, and really hope that they come back some time in the next few years, for another concert, in a better place (Lycabetous Theater is not the best place in the world for such a concert), and with a better sound. I just hope that the band liked their fans in Greece.</TT> <BR><TT> In memory I will always have the great solo Mike did. He also did that thing with the audience. He called two fans (unfortunately not me) to play drums with him. The first was not a drummer, but the second was, and he really kicked ass. Even Mike was surprised!?</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT>Anyway the songs they played, by album and not by the order they played them (couse I don't remember) are:</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT>WDADU</TT> <BR><TT>Only: The Ytsejam</TT> <BR><TT>intro of Fortune in Lies (not The Killing Hand. WHY?????????)</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT>I&W</TT> <BR><TT>Pull me Under</TT> <BR><TT>Surrounded? (not very sure)</TT> <BR><TT>Under a Glass Moon</TT> <BR><TT>Medley: Metropolis-?-LTL (I think they don't play that last one very often, are they?)</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT>AWAKE</TT> <BR><TT>Caught in a Web</TT> <BR><TT>Voices</TT> <BR><TT>Lie</TT> <BR><TT>intro of Mirror</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT>ACOS</TT> <BR><TT>I.The Crimson Sunrise</TT> <BR><TT>II. Innocence</TT> <BR><TT>VII. The Crimson Sunset</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT>FII</TT> <BR><TT>Peruvian Skies</TT> <BR><TT>Burning my Soul</TT> <BR><TT>Hell's Kitchen</TT> <BR><TT>LITS</TT> <BR><TT>Just Let me Breath</TT> <BR><TT>TOT (the the whole truck)</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT>LTE</TT> <BR><TT>Paradigm Shift (by Mike & John)</TT><TT></TT>
<P><TT>and at a certain point the did little of Enter Sandman by Metallica.</TT> <BR><TT></TT> <TT></TT>
<P><TT>That's it, Buy for now</TT> <BR><TT>Mike Z.</TT> <BR><TT></TT> <BR><TT></TT> <TT></TT>
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 06:56:50 -0400 From: "Suplizio, Jim" <Jim.Suplizio@GSC.GTE.Com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Favorite...Portnoy? Message-ID: <C5B7060FE2DCD011A8730060B01A6244322DA9@mail.rtp.gtegsc.com>
-- Ryan Whitaker wrote: >On another note... Everybody just loooves Mike Portnoy. Do you all think >the other band members are at least a tad jealous of the attention he gets? >When JP was signing autographs after one of the shows I went to this past >May, I heard people ask him at least a couple times, "Where's Mike Portnoy?" >That's got to be annoying.
Actually I'd have to say my favorite is LaBrie. DT is ont of the few bands that the singer is the one who hooked me on the band. Only after listening to them a few times was I able to start picking out more of subtle nuances of the band. Now it's more or less an 'audio feast' because I'm able to enjoy the music on many different levels.
Jim
"What reward is a banquet of red wine and bread, when you hunger for life but on death you are fed?" - M. Walkyer - The Best of Enemies (Wulf's Tale)
Jim Suplizio
jim.suplizio@gsc.gte.com 919-549-7927
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:49:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Earendil Asmodel <asmodel@pils.kvarteret.uib.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Flight of the mumblebee Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980618134904.6886E-100000@pils.kvarteret.uib.no>
>Well, the bassist for Manowar played flight of the bumblebee (the >original, >classical piece). On bass. Really fast. He is god. :) I'm not sure which >manowar CD it's on, my friend is the manowar freak. just check the >tracklist. i know the right half of the back of the CD is a light blue. >hope it helps. :) but yeah, i'd DEFINITELY check that out. maybe there's >an mp3 of it online... there's an mp3 of everything else... :) moo.
The Manowar CD is "Kings of Metal" (releases back in '88 or '89) and its the 3rd or 4th song..its damn fast indeed but its called "the sting of the bumblebee" and i havent listened to the "flight.." so i wouldnt know whats going on..check it now anyway, theres good power metal stuff in it..(and an awesome ballad)
asmodel
ps theateeeeeeeeeeeeeeer! (still) pss i heard they are playing some new songs (and an unplugged show as well) this monday in rotterdam??? gotta catch the next flight!!
--------------------------------- | Eala Earendel engla beorhtast | | ofer middangeard monnum sended. | ---------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:18:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net> To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: WREKage... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980618091357.9163A-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Alex, after reading Paul Cashman's remarks about WREK and the music they play on Saturdays: > Dammit! Dammit, I say!! Why do you have to be in Georgia??? Even when I go > on my VA trip at the end of this week, I still can't get it from there!!!!
Hell, *I* live an hour and a half away from Tech and I can't get it either. WREK needs to ramp up its transmitter. :) :)
Ta, Phil
======================================================================= Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal) Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 "I never should have written all those tank programs." -- Kevin Flynn, "Tron" Currently playing: Kix -- "Blow My Fuse"
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