YTSEJAM digest 3995

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YTSEJAM Digest 3995

Today's Topics:

  1) New Page
by HEZZBEEGEE@aol.com
  2) *** DT in Hungary ***
by Andras Varga <bandee76@yahoo.com>
  3) *** DT in Hungary ***
by Andras Varga <bandee76@yahoo.com>
  4) Hail Bafu
by AL <al@isd.net>
  5) James' voice
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
  6) Superior's new album is amazing - Younique
by Calvin6S@aol.com
  7) wild koba
by AL <al@isd.net>
  8) I am anal.
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@umdnj.edu>
  9) Chroma Key
by Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
10) FW: 6 String Basses
by "Robert O'Doherty" <r.odoherty@mvt.ie>
11) alternative-progressive
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com>
12) Re: Flight of the mumblebee
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
13) Re: Hinckley Mn Show
by Alex Fraser <afraser@carleton.edu>
14) FOTB (again), So Pran O,
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
15) Re: I&W misprinted CD
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
16) Re: NEW SUPERIOR SOUNDSAMPLES
by Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:07:15 EDT
From: HEZZBEEGEE@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Page
Message-ID: <8ce18a4b.358a4664@aol.com>

Please check out my new page:
DRE/\MING in the NEW MILLENIUM at http://members.aol.com/HEZZBEEGEE/index.html
Thanks! ~peace~

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 04:12:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andras Varga <bandee76@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: *** DT in Hungary ***
Message-ID: <19980619111217.11401.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com>

Hi everyone!

So, I was just skimming through the latest jams, and no one mentioned
the Hungarian gig! Am I the ONLY Hungarian jammer, OR WHAT ? :)

Here`s a quick summary:

The show was on the 16th of June in Budapest`s Petofi Hall. On that
afternoon, MCD record store also organized a dedication! (I got my FII
signed)

We arrived to the scene at around 19:00 (aka 7pm), and we heard them
rehearsing Hollow Years and Ytsejam(which they didn`t play at the
show, unfortunately) !!

The guest star was RMP, but they had to wait until 9pm, because there
was some festival in the City Park, commemorating the `56 revolution
or something, and they couldn`t hear the speeches because of the
"noise" coming from the hall... WTF cares - I don`t give a shit to
history when DT is playing ! :-)

So, after hearing Three Minute Warning three times in a row (!!)
through the PA system, Mr. Rudess and Mr. Morgenstein appeared on the
stage... I am now trying to describe how amazing this was... hmmm... I
can`t find the right words... Anyway, it was great to see, how much
they enjoyed playing MUSIC!

After the usual stuff over the PA (I haven`t heard RTK with voices
until now - it`s fantastic!), DT began at 10pm with ACOS part one.
They played several songs from FII, Awake and IAW (UAGM, PMU and
Metropolis/One at the end). I can`t really list them all, there were a
couple of joined tracks (? - you know, when they play a medley of
2-3-4 songs), they also did LITS (the full version).

In the middle of CIAW Mr. Portnoy did an amazing drum solo - this one
was interactive: at one point he disappeared behind his drum kit, came
down to the fans with one of his drums, and started to jam with them!
During the show, he often threw drumsticks at Derek, who could hardly
catch them, but tried to throw them back at Mike - and this all
happened during pieces like Voices or Lifting Shadows...

Peruvian Skies had a different middle section (what was it? Anybody
knows?), a different chorus ("under Hungarian skies", hehe) and at the
end of the song they went to "Enter Sandman" for 5-10 seconds (isn`t
that ironic? ;)) They also did an acoustic part incl. Anna Lee and HY.

James was 100% this time (when not?) sometimes he was even better than
on the CDs (he streched high notes, like some opera singer), he was
very happy on "this amazing turnout" , which they "didn`t expect". I
can`t estimate the number of fans out there (I would say 4-5000), but
it was originally planned as an indoor show, and they had to put it to
the outdoor stage).

Petrucci`s solo contained some folk song (?) and a classical piece
(The Flying Bee from Korchakov? - I`m not sure, someone said this - it
was FAST as HELL), later, together with Portnoy, they began to play
Paradigm Shift (!!!) from LTE - until that "balcanic melody" part (you
know what I mean).

DT play more than 140 minutes, and my head was blown away! They KICK
ASS live! Even the songs I found average before (BMS) simply ROCKED! I
will definately come back next summer! (James - you promised it, man
!! :))

OK, so it was not so quick as I planned... I just couldn`t stop
typing... :)

Bye,

Andras

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 04:22:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andras Varga <bandee76@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: *** DT in Hungary ***
Message-ID: <19980619112232.13383.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com>

Hi everyone!

So, I was just skimming through the latest jams, and no one mentioned
the Hungarian gig! Am I the ONLY Hungarian jammer, OR WHAT ? :)

Here`s a quick summary:

The show was on the 16th of June in Budapest`s Petofi Hall. On that
afternoon, MCD record store also organized a dedication! (I got my FII
signed)

We arrived to the scene at around 19:00 (aka 7pm), and we heard them
rehearsing Hollow Years and Ytsejam(which they didn`t play at the
show, unfortunately) !!

OK, so it was not so quick as I planned... I just couldn`t stop
typing... :)

Bye,

Andras

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 06:36:51 -0500
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Hail Bafu
Message-ID: <358A4D52.4E125199@isd.net>

Bafu:
Your wonderfully twisted humor slays me!
Do you just wake up in the morning wondering what should I fuck with today?
I wish you would get a job writing for our local paper (The Saint Paul Pioneer dePRESSed)
I would finally have a use for it. (they have rejected my requests to
make it softer for it's only USEFUL purpose)

~ Secretly writing this without permission from Senator
Paul (The Weasel, Mr. welfare) Wellstone.

--
See ya,   AL...     The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems
http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your
groin unprotected.    - Red Buttons
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:47:37 +0200
From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: James' voice
Message-ID: <v04003a00b1afff29a4f7@[194.121.235.251]>
Bernd Basmer wrote:
>for singers to sing that high that one could think they have
>no balls anymore... :)) And LaBrie sounds VERY good in the
>lower regions too IMHO. :)
That's one of the reasons why I think that James is one of the best singers
in rock today: He even got balls in his highest registers. Just listen to
"The Mirror"! Great name, BTW... ;-))
Steffen
--
Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.westend.com/TheMirror)
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:50:16 EDT
From: Calvin6S@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior's new album is amazing - Younique
Message-ID: <af9a3a04.358a5079@aol.com>
The sound samples are at:
 <A HREF="http://www.noiserecords.com/noise.html">Welcome to Noise Records</A>
Some of the samples are more complete - but the average sample is 1:30 in Real
Audio format.
My first impression is shock.  Superior has really stretched out on this
album.  Behind is a great album, but Younique is amazing (from the sound clips
I have heard).  IMHO, Younique is more experimental.  Some of the progressions
are very "unique".  I also can really get into the "ambiance" sounds.  Each
song sounds very rich and "detailed".  All of the sudden August 31st seems so
far away.
A few more specific notes song by song:
Not With Me - Sample starts out with a sort of "tribal" heavy guitar (my
impression).  Very cool start and stop "rushed" groove on the verse.  It is in
4/4 HOWEVER - the feel is more like 7/8 to 9/8 to 7/8 to 9/8 etc because the
even measures start an eighth note early.  If it were straight 4/4 the second
measure would tend to have an upbeat syncopated feel - but instead it just
feels like your heart jumped too fast :o).  I love playing with "time" like
this.  Cool vocal fx too. 
God's Funeral - This song is more "prog".  Very cool chord progressions.
Beautiful and serene section in the middle.
I was going to go through all the tracks - but it is late and I'm tired.
Variety is the key word for this new album.  Check it out.  I love it already.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 06:55:16 -0500
From: AL <al@isd.net>
To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: wild koba
Message-ID: <358A51A4.F72413A1@isd.net>
wild koba wrote:
>so last night, a friend of mine calls me up and invites to a free concert.
>..it was lisa loeb, for the hard rock live show on vh-1. now, i know you're
>going, "god, koba- you little fag. i can't believe you ran in the middle of a
>thunderstorm, got all soaking wet with your girlfriend and friend, just to go
>sit on some FUCKING GAY show for a FUCKING GAY music channel
>ps- al@isd.net: thanks, man.
Hey, wait a minute!!    What are you thanking me for?
Oh sure, get everyone on the jam thinking I'm the stool pusher
that drug you to that concert...   You're thanking me for something
else, Right?      I gotta quit smoking this shit!
--
See ya,   AL...     The YTSE Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems
http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your
groin unprotected.    - Red Buttons
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:13:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@umdnj.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I am anal.
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980619091213.28552A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, KorgX3 wrote:
> Bruce Dickinson, James, Geoff Tate, Luciano Pavoratti...
> 
> BTW, just to make sure I was spelling Luciano's name right, I entered it in
> on Yahoo.  The first entry in the search results takes you to some Greg
	heh, even with help from Yahoo! it's spelled wrong.  Pavarotti.
	Yeah, yeah, no DT content.....yeah, yeah, anal..... eat me. :)
					XOXOXOX,
						Al
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com OR theprof@bigfoot.com 
HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
  
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:17:43 -0500
From: Dave Ware <dware@walker.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Chroma Key
Message-ID: <B1A22B4F087BD111B317006097939160264F3F@BHAM-XCHG.immpower.com>
Hi,
	I don't know if this has been discussed but I finally got to the
Chroma Key site and had a listen to the sound clips.  I would like to
know what you guys and girls think of it.  I think it shows promise, I
like his vocals (quite Peter Gabriel - ish (spelling?)) and it's good to
see he's still well into his sampling.  I'm considering ordering the cd.
	Dave (a UK Jammer - now in Alabama).
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:30:14 +0100
From: "Robert O'Doherty" <r.odoherty@mvt.ie>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FW: 6 String Basses
Message-ID: <61F3B4EC9D23D11181A0006097AD1D731DDEB1@skylight.mvt.ie>
Hello People,
Could someone tell me about the advantages of playing a 6 string bass? I
imagine that the thicker neck would mean that the Steve Harris approach
(grabbing the neck with your thumb hanging over the top) would not be a
runner; you'd be stuck with having to strengthen up those fingers
instead.  I've seen a few books about 6-string chords and scales so is
it a very different animal to play in comparison to a 4-string?  
The Carvin LB-76 (http://www.carvin.com ) looks fantastic; does anyone
know anything about it.
Rob.
ICQ 809343
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:46:22 -0400
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: alternative-progressive
Message-ID: <358A6BAE.E84D32F1@bdm.com>
Brian wrote:
> "Big Wreck - In Loving Memory Of...
> On their debut outing, this quartet of grads from Boston's Berklee College
> of Music have crafted an epic set of alternative prog-rock anthems."
> 
> "Alternative prog-rock"?  An intriguing concept.  Joins the ranks of
> similar concepts "black light", "jumbo shrimp", and "shortie hoagie".
A lot of people that I know seem to use alternative/progressive
interchangeably, when refering to the music (Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters,
etc) that gets played on the radio nowdays. We on the list use
progressive to mean something completely different than they do.
NP:King's X-Gretchen Goes To Nebraska
-- 
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Pat Daugherty Email : pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com                        |
|               Web   : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html   |
|===================================================================|
|                   Lets Go Washington Capitals                     |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:16:05 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Flight of the mumblebee
Message-ID: <007501bd9b95$2e908ee0$4ec95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
|The Manowar CD is "Kings of Metal" (releases back in '88 or '89)
|and its the 3rd or 4th song..its damn fast indeed but its
|called "the sting of the bumblebee" and i havent listened to
|the "flight.." so i wouldnt know whats going on..check it now anyway,
|theres good power metal stuff in it..(and an awesome ballad)
yep, you're right. But all their CD titles sound the same :) Oh, and sting
of the bumblebee is pretty accurate. It's basically a cover of the
classical piece. Not like Nuno's version which shares only a similar name
and the fact that it's a constant barrage of even-spaced notes. And stuff.
Moo.
--
"I lost my vision in a tragic gambling accident."
    -Mike Portnoy, "A Change of Seasons"
Dan McCormack
dmc@dreamt.org
http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:22:46 +0000
From: Alex Fraser <afraser@carleton.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Hinckley Mn Show
Message-ID: <01IYEZ1AD49M91VWJQ@carleton.edu>
> I called the Hinckley, Mn Grand Casino for info on the Deep Purple show there
> on August 23rd (which we all want to see all the more because of DT )....It IS
> a confirmed date ! It is also an all ages show, so whoever it was that was
I was gonna post about this earlier, but the jam was down.  I can 
independently confirm everything Mr. Tom said.  My kid sis got two 
tix through TicketScamster (quite nice tix, too).  The show is all 
ages, but if ya wanna gamble afterwards, you better be over 18.  Heh.
okbye,
id
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:23:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FOTB (again), So Pran O, 
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980619101014.19207B-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Looeee inquired:
> Anybody familiar with the Great Kat?
> She's a Juliard Graduate with just about the snottiest attitude I've
> seen (excluding a few members of this list, of course... ; )
> In her "Beethoven on Speed" album, she did a version of FotBB that
> knocked my sox off back in '92. (of course, this was my pre-DT days...)
aha. Yes, I remarked on her version awhile back but couldn't remember
whether it was on that disc or on "Worship Me or Die". What a
difference...
Welcome to the jam, by the way. 
KorgX3 tells us how the prog vocalists hit those high notes:
> Answer: Tight leather pants.  All the great tenors wear them.  Andre Matos,
> Bruce Dickinson, James, Geoff Tate, Luciano Pavoratti...
> 
> BTW, just to make sure I was spelling Luciano's name right, I entered it in
> on Yahoo.  
And you *still* got it wrong. :) Pavarotti. PAVAROTTI! BEEFCAKE!
BEEEEFCAAAAKE!!!!!
I think Chuck has a point though. Would Andre Matos or Geoff Tate do so
well without their tight leather pants? Anybody remember what Michael
Kiske used to wear? 
Ta,
Phil
=======================================================================
Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal) 
Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787 
"I never should have written all those tank programs." 
	-- Kevin Flynn, "Tron"
Currently playing: David Arkenstone -- "Return of the Guardians"
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:26:58 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: I&W misprinted CD
Message-ID: <00a001bd9b96$b3c258e0$4ec95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
|comic books. Some of them are "worth" hundreds of dollars according to the
|Overstreet Price Guide, but I hardly ever read them myself. Others are
You could use this for you... If some of your comic books are worth little
to you and a whole lot to someone else, do them a favor and sell it to them
for a whole lot of money. :) Moo.
--
"I lost my vision in a tragic gambling accident."
    -Mike Portnoy, "A Change of Seasons"
Dan McCormack
dmc@dreamt.org
http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:20:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de
Subject: Re: NEW SUPERIOR SOUNDSAMPLES
Message-ID: <199806191420.KAA07947@clipper.hq.tis.com>
>
>Ok, for all people who are interested in Superior:
>
>Go to http://www.noiserecords.com/
>
>There are new soundsamples of ALL of our new songs that will
>appear on our album YOUnique. The album will be released
>August 31st.
>
	So far I've only had a chance to listen to three samples, but
they're awesome!!  Superior is definitely my favorite heavy-prog-rock
band these days.  Their "Behind" CD is superb and from what I've heard
so far the new one will be excellent as well.
	I really love the strength of the vocals combined with the
powerful music.  Many new prog bands have the musical chops but the
vocalist usually lets me down -- but not Michael Tangermann (Superior's
vocalist).  He doesn't scream or try to extend beyond his range.  He
uses his powerful voice to add melody and strength to the music.
	It sounds like you have another "superior" work here Bernd.
Well done!  I can't wait to get it on CD.
				Steve
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