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YTSEJAM Digest 3998

Today's Topics:

1) FW: Final (?) DT August US Tour dates
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
 2) The latest on Nick Menza (fwd)
by Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
 3) Re: Iced Earth
by Pam Doise <ytsepam@earthlink.net>
 4) DeGarmo did not write 90% of QR's songs
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
 5) Re: stuff
by Pam Doise <ytsepam@earthlink.net>
 6) Help! New CD's to buy
by "Juan Francisco Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
 7) Just Let Me Breathe Live MP3 from Fasten Your Seatbelts
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
 8) FWD<themanager@liveconcerts.com>: Your reminder for Bruford
by marshallm@juno.com (Mike A Marshall)
 9) mainstream
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
10) Finding rare CDs (i.e. Lie single)
by Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
11) Savatage European tour cancelled
by Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
12) Aldo Nova
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
13) Re: pics and stuff
by "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <pendragn@netins.net>

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 22:03:27 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FW: Final (?) DT August US Tour dates
Message-ID: <01BD9C97.4492AD60@131.rotterdam2.gironet.nl>

Not sure if Mike is sending this to the list too,
so here it is just in case...
_____

Hi!
I know these have been floating around for a while now, but we only just
received the latest "official" itinerary....
So here it is.....

Deep Purple / ELP / Dream Theater
Tues Aug 4th - Cumberland City Civic - Portland, ME
Thurs Aug 6th - PNC Bank Arts Center - Holmdel, NJ
Fri Aug 7th - Meadow Music Theater - Hartford, CT
Sat Aug 8th - Great Woods - Mansfield, MA
Sun Aug 9th - Jones Beach Theater - Wantagh, LI, NY
Tues Aug 11th - Harvey's Lake - Wilkes-Barre, PA
Wed Aug 12th - E Center - Philadelphia, PA
Fri Aug 14th - Finger Lakes PAC - Canandaigua, NY
Sat Aug 15th - Pine Knob - Clarkston, MI
Sun Aug 16th - Congress Center - Ottawa, ONT ***
Mon Aug 17th - Colisee De Quebec - Quebec City, QUE ***
Tues Aug 18th - Molson Center - Montreal, QUE ***
Wed Aug 19th - Molson Amphitheater - Toronto, ONT
Fri Aug 21st - Blossom Music Center - Cuyahoga Falls, OH
Sat Aug 22nd - World Music Theater - Tinley Park, IL
Sun Aug 23rd - Grand Casino Amphitheater - Hinkley, MN
Mon Aug 24th - Marcus Amphitheater - Milwaukee, WI
Wed Aug 26th - Fiddler's Green Amphitheater - Denver, CO
Fri Aug 28th - Warfield Theater - San Francisco, CA
Sun Aug 30th - Universal Amphitheater - Universal City, CA

***= still waiting for confirmation

Any changes or additions, I will post.
C-ya on the road!

Mike Portnoy
_____

  Mark Bredius
  ____________________________________________________________
  Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
  * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: Today

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The latest on Nick Menza (fwd)
Message-ID: <199806202210.PAA05146@germany.it.earthlink.net>

For you Deth fans out there, straight from Mustaine's keyboard.

>Dave today made a post to the "Dave Speaks" message board on megadeth.com.
>Here's what it had to say:

>"Droogies! I felt it wss necessary to fill you in on what is happening with
>Nick. He told us that he had cancer in his right knee, and was going to have
>a complete MRI done."
>
>"The results were evidently unclear as he didn't tell me if they found any
>cancer or not. He will have surgery on or about June 29th."
>
>"Jimmy DeGrasso has been filling in for him and has done an excellent job. We
>feel that he has helped us in this time of need and we will co0ntinue to bring
>you the best Megadeth music that we can."
>
> "Please pray for Nick.
>
> MUSTAINE"
>
>
>
>There you have it...
>
>Mike
>www.megadeth.com

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:54:11 -0700
From: Pam Doise <ytsepam@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Iced Earth
Message-ID: <358C3D93.10CB@earthlink.net>

Matt Johnston wrote:

> Dark Saga is very good -- only one truly cheesy track in the bunch.

What song would that be? Probably my favorite one: I Died for You. It's
one of the few ballads they've done. Everyone describes Iced Earth as
death metal, but don't be put off by that. They sound similar to
Savatage, so if you are a 'tage head, like I am, you might find
something there you like. :)

Tempest is a celtic band and most jammers wouldn't get into their type
of music, I would bet. My favorite is Serrated Edge. It's got some
classic celtic set to a rock beat. It's Irish-type music, so expect jigs
and waltzes...not the usual power metal scene. They have a website:
http://www.3wnet.com/tempest/index.html
You'll find a few clips there, so check them out before you buy.

Kerowyn

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 19:00:09 -0400
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DeGarmo did not write 90% of QR's songs
Message-ID: <717B37282A06D2119390006008A18E06021875@GLENLEVIT>

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Ok, I feel the need to correct Andy here because there has
been too much incorrect info going around about the 'Ryche
lately.

DeGarmo did leave the band. He left early this year. The
band signed onto Virgin Records after EMI was disassembled
and finished '97 with them. Currently, Queensryche has not
tried to renegotiate their short term contract with Virgin
because they are considering going independent.

Lastly, DeGarmo did not write 90% of QR's material. I know
that 90% was probably an exaggeration on Andy's part, but let
me give you a list of some of the non-DeGarmo songs:

Warning
Roads to Madness
I Dream in Infrared
Screaming in Digital
Revolution Calling
Speak
Spreading the Disease
Empire

These are the cream of the crop of Wilton/Tate songs by QR.
True, DeGarmo wrote a lot of their songs, and his songs
dominated the last 2 albums, Promised Land and Hear in the
Now Frontier, but you have to admit that those albums
aren't really classic QR. While DeGarmo did write a lot
of QR songs, he also wrote most of the bad ones too (do
I dare to mention Get A Life?) If Wilton was the man behind
the songs I listed above, then I'm looking forward to
DeGarmo's departure.

I'll take an album full of Empire's and Revolution Calling's
any day over one with Sign of the Times's and Anytime/
Anywhere's.

Ryche and roll,
The Notorious B.O.G.

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>From: ytsejam@ax.com [mailto:ytsejam@ax.com]
>Subject: YTSEJAM digest 3997
>
>5) Chris Degarmo
>by Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
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>For anyone who doesn't know, Chris Degarmo (who wrote 90% of Queensryche's
>material) left the band in Feburary. The band was then dropped from
>Capitol (which it was moved to after it left EMI when EMI folded), and
>will put an album out written by the other guys with a new second
>guitarist later this year, or early next year.

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Ok, I feel the need to correct Andy here because there has
 been too much incorrect info going around about the 'Ryche 
 lately.

DeGarmo did leave the band.  He left early this year.  The
 band signed onto Virgin Records after EMI was disassembled
 and finished '97 with them.  Currently, Queensryche has not
 tried to renegotiate their short term contract with Virgin
 because they are considering going independent.

Lastly, DeGarmo did not write 90% of QR's material.  I know
 that 90% was probably an exaggeration on Andy's part, but let
 me give you a list of some of the non-DeGarmo songs:

Warning
 Roads to Madness
 I Dream in Infrared
 Screaming in Digital
 Revolution Calling
 Speak
 Spreading the Disease
 Empire

These are the cream of the crop of Wilton/Tate songs by QR.
 True, DeGarmo wrote a lot of their songs, and his songs
 dominated the last 2 albums, Promised Land and Hear in the
 Now Frontier, but you have to admit that those albums
 aren't really classic QR.  While DeGarmo did write a lot
 of QR songs, he also wrote most of the bad ones too (do
 I dare to mention Get A Life?)  If Wilton was the man behind
 the songs I listed above, then I'm looking forward to
 DeGarmo's departure.

I'll take an album full of Empire's and Revolution Calling's
 any day over one with Sign of the Times's and Anytime/
 Anywhere's.

Ryche and roll,
 The Notorious B.O.G.

>-----Original Message-----
 >From: ytsejam@ax.com [<A HREF="mailto:ytsejam@ax.com" TARGET="_blank">mailto:ytsejam@ax.com</A>]
 >Subject: YTSEJAM digest 3997
 >
 >5) Chris Degarmo
 >by Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu>
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 >For anyone who doesn't know, Chris Degarmo (who wrote 90% of Queensryche's
 >material) left the band in Feburary.  The band was then dropped from
 >Capitol (which it was moved to after it left EMI when EMI folded), and
 >will put an album out written by the other guys with a new second
 >guitarist later this year, or early next year.

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:16:19 -0700
From: Pam Doise <ytsepam@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: stuff
Message-ID: <358C42C3.6C49@earthlink.net>

Bernd Basmer wrote:

> The point that I want to comment on is, if it is so important to sing > high? I mean, there are so many Metal bands where the singers sing
> with those high voices and this really gets on my nerves.

I agree, Bernd. James doesn't sing too high for me really, but I was put
off on Rush for years cos I can't handle that high falsetto crap. I must
be getting more used to it, though, cos I can listen to Concepton. Damn,
but there is a high voice! That's one of the things I like about bands
like Superior, Savatage, and Iced Earth. Real male voices. :)

Kerowyn

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:09:20 -0500
From: "Juan Francisco Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Help! New CD's to buy
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980619220920.0079bd20@sysop.com.mx>

I'm planning to buy some CD's at The Laser's Edge and I would like to know
your opinion about some bands that I'm interested in.

ARKH=C9 Arkh=E9 =09
HOUSE OF SPIRITS Turn Of The Tide=09
ROYAL HUNT 1996 =09
SEVEN SIGNS Silence Of A Wish=09
SOUL CAGES Soul Cages =09
MERCURY RISING Upon Deaf Ears=09
Collage Moonshine =09
Zen Into The Light=20

Thank you very much!!

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 20:20:39 -0400
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Just Let Me Breathe Live MP3 from Fasten Your Seatbelts
Message-ID: <717B37282A06D2119390006008A18E06021876@GLENLEVIT>

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Hey everyone,

I just want to notify everyone here that if you go to

http://web.mit.edu/bogie/

you can find Just Let Me Breathe as it was performed
by Dream Theater on December 13, 1997.

Also, for those of you who sent in orders in May, you
will be receiving a coupon redeemable for a free CD
from me. (But, if I do a 2 CD project next, you'll
only pay half price.) Basically, I'm doing this for
the people who haven't received their CDs yet who
should have received them a month ago. With finals
in May, and now because I'm waiting on the stupid
liners, the CDs have not gone out. They are all
burned and ready to go, so if you sent in an order and
would like me to send the CDs now and the liners
later, let me know.

Take care,
Nick Bogovich

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Hey everyone,

I just want to notify everyone here that if you go to

<A HREF="http://web.mit.edu/bogie/" TARGET="_blank">http://web.mit.edu/bogie/>

you can find Just Let Me Breathe as it was performed
 by Dream Theater on December 13, 1997.

Also, for those of you who sent in orders in May, you
 will be receiving a coupon redeemable for a free CD
 from me.  (But, if I do a 2 CD project next, you'll
 only pay half price.)  Basically, I'm doing this for
 the people who haven't received their CDs yet who 
 should have received them a month ago.  With finals
 in May, and now because I'm waiting on the stupid
 liners, the CDs have not gone out.  They are all 
 burned and ready to go, so if you sent in an order and
 would like me to send the CDs now and the liners
 later, let me know.

Take care,
 Nick Bogovich

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 19:41:03 -0500
From: marshallm@juno.com (Mike A Marshall)
To: ytsejam@ax.com, mumbone@vol.com, orkbait@earthlink.net
Subject: FWD<themanager@liveconcerts.com>: Your reminder for Bruford
Message-ID: <19980620.194508.10406.0.marshallm@juno.com>

Hey Gang!

In case no one's checked in at LiveConcerts.com lately, there's what
could be a great show on tomorrow (Sunday, 6/21).

This is an automatic reminder e-mail for LiveConcerts.com's presentation
of:

   Bruford Levin / Charlie Hunter
   Sunday, June 21 - 3:30 PM Pacific Time
   http://www.liveconcerts.com/event/

Remember, you can come to LiveConcerts.com anytime and enjoy our
extensive
archive of past concerts and various musical content.

I hope you enjoy the show.

- The Manager (themanager@liveconcerts.com)
LiveConcerts.com (http://www.liveconcerts.com)

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 17:44:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: mainstream
Message-ID: <19980621004450.356.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com>

Is it just me, or is the mainstream right now more mainstream than
ever? I mean, i know that for a long time most of what was considered
'mainstream' was crap, but now it seems to be reaaally bad. For one,
its seems that the cd's that are selling the most now a days are
soundtracks. And everything sounds so washed down...as if what you
hear on the radio you could hear in an elevator the very next day.

Even last year, there was still a decent amount of musicians/bands
with respectable music in the mainstream...but now, even a lot of
those arent doing as well as they used to. Maybe it's just that may
tastes have gone way left of center, but i think the music industry
has *really* gone down the stinkhole now. Next thing you know we'll
have muzak on the top ten...

*sigh*
Ernesto

_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 20:17:58 -0500
From: Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Finding rare CDs (i.e. Lie single)
Message-ID: <358C5F46.3DA7@auburn.net>

> > does anyone know where i might be able to find the single "lie" from dt and if
> > so where and how much?
>
> If you will, nobody knows. Just try. If you can find it, you just found it. If you can't, then until that moment you couldn't. :-)

Good point. I'm pretty sure that no one on the 'jam would be willing to
part with their Lie single, but that doesn't mean nobody anywhere would
sell their copy. I received several offers for a Ween CD single that I
bought a few years ago, all offering cash and "much bootleggage." Having
never desired to own a Ween bootleg (or album, for that matter - I
understand that their wonder "12 Golden Country Greats" was a one shot
deal), I opted for the cash. I notified all of them that I was putting
it on eBay, and after the smoke cleared, some happy Ween fan will have
their CD, and I will have $51. All from a stupid CD single that I
haven't listened to in years!

My point? Look around. There's bound to be somebody that has the Lie
single and is willing to sell it to you. The irony is that I bought the
Lie and Silent Man singles and the aforespoken "Push th' Little Daisies"
single on the same day in the same store, all for less than $26. Two are
priceless to me, and while the other one wasn't priceless to me, it is
going to be priceless to somebody else.

Take care, all,
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:41:30 -0400
From: Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Savatage European tour cancelled
Message-ID: <0EUV00FG8U6AV7@PM02SM.PMM.MCI.NET>

According to several people on the Savatage message board
(http://www.savatage.com/wwwboard) the Savatage European tour has been
cancelled / postponed because of an injury that Al Pitrelli has suffered.
:( sorry if this is old news).
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| Totikus totikus@hotmail.com |
| A Fortune In Midis - The Dream Theater Midi Page |
| http://members.xoom.com/totikus/ |
| "A man must learn to cope, if his obsession's real |
| Suppression that he feels must turn to hope." |
| Dream Theater, "Take The Time" |
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:44:11 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Aldo Nova
Message-ID: <01BD9D2E.F4C43E00@74.rotterdam1.gironet.nl>

AL (The YTSE Progtologist) asked :

> OK, I've tossed this name out here twice with NO response, WTF
> nobody has anything to say about Aldo Nova?

  Yeah, he played for Cindy Lauper... so he's definately prog. ;-)
  I remember someone taping the album "Twitch" for me when I was 16
  or so (I feel so old now). Didn't leave much of an impression but
  it was ok, I guess... Melodic rock a la Boston...

DT tomorrow!

  Mark Bredius
  ____________________________________________________________
  Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
  * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: 06-21-1998

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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:54:43 -0500
From: "Todd O. Klindt, MCSE" <pendragn@netins.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: pics and stuff
Message-ID: <000b01bd9d2c$e91289b0$010aa8c0@camelot.netins.net>

I'm still kinda toying with the idea of it, but I only had one person email
me and tell me they had contributions to make. I would be more then happy
to invest the time in it, but I want to make a quality product, and that
means I'm gonna need a lot of people sending me pictures or JPGs. I had
also toyed with the idea of putting an MP3 setlist on there. So, if you're
interested in a Ytsejam Tourbook on CD, let me know. Like I said, one other
guy has emailed me about this and we have worked out some of the details.
If you're curious about what we had in mind, drop me a line, I'll fill you
in.

later,
tk

ps. I still don't look like Geoff Tate.

>I just got my pics done today, are you still doing this?
>a CD rom full of pics would be cool, let me know.
>
>At 09:19 PM 15/05/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>> Mads had mentioned scanning some photos. I have a scanner and a CD
>>> burner. If anyone from the Chicago show, or any other show, has photos
>>> they would like scanned, I'd love to do it. I can either email you the
>>> files or put them on CD. If I get enought I might throw them all on a
CD
>>> and distribute them to the Jam and a memento of the '98 tour.
>>That's a damn good idea.
>>

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