YTSEJAM Digest 4004
Today's Topics:
1) setlist 6-22
by "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3999
by 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle)
3) Re: Bye Bye Dream Theater! (fwd)
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
4) Iced Earth/Ugh
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com>
5) working man, live concerts
by "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com>
6) Subject: George Lucas wrote another Bahr Wars Trilogy?
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
7) More Vernon Reid info(Baltimore/Wash area)
by crow <crow@ccpl.carr.lib.md.us>
8) DT/DP/ELP on Wantagh 08/09 :(
by "Karol!" <miroel@uol.com.br>
9) jeez (html)
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
10) scanners (NDTC)
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
11) movie question
by "Partha S. Mukhopadhyay" <pmukhop@med.wayne.edu>
12) The #Ytse Mirror
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
13) Explorers Club
by Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
14) Re: Bye Bye Dream Theater! (fwd)
by AEllis1222@aol.com
15) Re: Lynx bashing <sigh>
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
16) DT in Ottawa?!?!
by "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca>
17) please remove shawj@lbcc.cc.or.us
by Alex Gerdemann <gerdema@lbcc.cc.or.us>
18) Re: working man, live concerts
by "John E. Martin" <jem@lainet.com>
19) Re: ytsejam archive
by "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
20) gigs, festivals + online shopping
by Mats "Rydstr?m" <rydstrom@rocketmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:40:58 +0200
From: "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
To: "Ytse Jam Mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: setlist 6-22
Message-ID: <01bd9ea4$2c3d9360$294f12c3@gjjhgjhg>
Hey you all,
here's the setlist of the rotterdam-gig, please feel free correct me, i'm
NOT completely sure
Speak To Me.
Lifting Shadwos (New Intro).
Hey You.
The Silent Man.
To Live Forever/Lines In The Sand.
Cover My Eyes.
Another Day (with Huub on Soprano sax)
Take Away My Pain (with Huub on Sax)
Wait For Sleep.
VanHalen tune (?)
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.
Eve.
Anna Lee.
Carpe Diem.
Hollow Years.
The Way It Used To Be.
----Peruvian Skies (with excerpts from Have A Cigar and Enter Sandman). Paradigm Shift. Another Day.
Anyway, i've got a feeling that i'm missing out some cover-bits, so please correct me,..
Denis Schoen denis.schoen@tip.nl Theater Of Dreams Official Dutch Dream Theater Fanclub http://members.xoom.com/todreams/ PO Box 1597 2003 BP Haarlem Holland
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:29:13 +0000 From: 09E@or304.mc.gov.au (Graham Boyle) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3999 Message-ID: <358e560c.or304@or304.mc.gov.au>
> second, i want to repeat this YET AGAIN. if it seems like the > ytsejam is down, DO NOT MAIL THE JAM and say stuff like "Is the jam > broken?" Guess what? First of all, noone is gonna see the damn post > if it is.
Capishe Carlos ? Get it tattooed backwards on your forehead, then everytime you get the urge to mail the jam about not receiving anything, look in the mirror and you'll get an instant memory recall.....
> Yeah, it's a good idea you yanks don't fuck with Gaz right now - being > on a big fucken battleship loaded with nuclear warheads and all. (and > you thought he could flame via email....)
Yep as a matter of fact we have 6 Tomahawk Cruise missiles pointed in the direction of a certain spot in Arizona, ready to make the reciever pay for his sins, in his crimes against jammers patience...
over and out....... graham
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:14:06 -0400 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Bye Bye Dream Theater! (fwd) Message-ID: <CB366B2843EBD111AA9600104B6A9EF0018CB2@wak-mail2.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> For those of you keeping track, I said from the outset >> that if FII didn't sell better than Awake that they would >> either have to go to an indy label or call it quits, because >> East/West Atlantic would drop them.
Sadly, this will never be the case. Record companies are many things but stupid is not among them, at least when considering finances ;) Once under contract, you are locked in chains until you fulfill your obligation (i.e., record your X number of CDs).
The insidious thing is that instead of cutting the chains, the record company will simply not let you *waste* any of their time and resources and record new material. Can you say "six years between albums" ?? The reason that you will never be let out of a contract is that on the crazy chance that you turn things around and make it big, the record company wants to be there to cash in on things. An indy label would be a breath of fresh air in comparison.
"Just Let Me Breathe" Mark-san
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:07:46 -0400 From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Iced Earth/Ugh Message-ID: <358FB6B2.1AF9DD95@bdm.com>
I've got the Iced Earth-Days of Purgatory 2 cd set. Iced Earth is definitely a very good band. Pretty wild how they combine the growl voice on some parts with the Paul Stanley voice on others. Is this the same singer or does more than one member of the band sing? This band is definitely worth checking out.
Scott Cook wrote: > For all you fans of the 1998 World Champion New York Yankees. :)
Ok, its one thing to bash Mike Bahr, complain about Metallica, bitch about lynx, but the Yankees? Come on!
NP:The Law-The Law -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty Email : pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com | | Web : http://www.abs.net/~patnbeck/pat/pat.html | |===================================================================| | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" -- X-Files | |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:30:52 +0200 From: "Schnipp" <schnipp@vossnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: working man, live concerts Message-ID: <01bd9eb3$86739be0$4c8535d4@schnipp>
Hi all, how come nobody talks about the working man album? Also on July,15th will be another liveconcerts DT concert and conversation special.
take care s.
Gather ye rosebuds while ye may +++ old time is still a flying the same flower that smiles today +++ tomorrow will be dying Robert Herrick, DT,ACOS
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:48:59 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Subject: George Lucas wrote another Bahr Wars Trilogy? Message-ID: <358FC05B.DE7743A8@home.com>
> Subject: George Lucas wrote another Bahr Wars Trilogy?
I hope Boba Fett is in this one alot more.
- Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:00:38 -0400 From: crow <crow@ccpl.carr.lib.md.us> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: More Vernon Reid info(Baltimore/Wash area) Message-ID: <358FC316.41C6@ccpl.carr.lib.md.us>
There has been much talk and interest about a concert in Central Park featuring Vernon Reid. I want to let all that are interested know that Vernon Reid will also be appearing in the Washington, DC/Baltimore area this coming Friday night at Wolf Trap as part of something called Jazz Train. Vernon will be playing with drummer Max Roach and pianist Geri Allen. To quote from their webpage -
"Wolf Trap proudly presents the world-premiere of Jazz Train -- a theatrical fusion of powerful choreography by Donald Byrd set to the diverse jazz compositions of drummer Max Roach, guitarist Vernon Reid and pianist Geri Allen (performed live by the artists themselves!). Enjoy a wildly exciting and dramatic three-part performance illuminating the impact of jazz on American culture."
Their page can be found at http://www.wolf-trap.org
You can even check out the view from each seating area and purchase tix online. You will get an EXACT seat location as if you were standing at the ticket window, so you can know whether or not you want those tickets, unlike some online places I have seen to get tickets.
For those of you who have never been to Wolf Trap I highly recommend making a trip there. It's a beautiful all wooden shed/pavillion type of facility right in the middle of a state park. One of the best things is that you can take just about ANYTHING in the gates. There is no security check and they allow you to bring in coolers, food, sodas, beer, wine, cans, BOTTLES, lawn chairs, etc. This place is very mellow and a great setting to see shows. I try to attend the all-day Jazz and Blues Festival every year, featuring 10 bands on 2 different stages. This year's will be this sunday the 28th of June. See you there!
Crow
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:57:59 -0300 From: "Karol!" <miroel@uol.com.br> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT/DP/ELP on Wantagh 08/09 :( Message-ID: <01bd9eb7$502d6d00$LocalHost@uol.com.br.uol.com.br>
::Sun Aug 9th - Jones Beach Theater - Wantagh, LI, NY::
Man, I just can't believe it. I'll be in nyc in aug but won't see DT/DP/ELP concert on 08/09 'cause I'll be coming back the day before... :( :( :(
Just sharing my suffering...
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:28:09 -0400 From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: jeez (html) Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980623112809.006a4b00@scott.skidmore.edu>
Well, this is NDTC, and you can shoot me for it, but I'm a web designer, and I have to speak up now.
GOOD designers program javascript (by the way javascript is a programming language which isn't incredibly hard, but has a lot of twists and turns) to be useful in more than one browser AND tell you which browsers to use. Excessive use of Javascript can be annoying, but a lot of javascript has necessary functions such as preloading images for timing, form completion and submission, etc. Frames are only useful for specific things, and I'm not very pro-frame except for specific reasons, like business sites (and even they don't necessarily need frames).
HOWEVER, I get pissed off at wading through messages sent in html too hehe, so don't send html here. :) (and those loooooong signature files? They suck too! ;)
Erica
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erica Bonomi, ebonomi@skidmore.edu Deedlit or Deedo on irc.dreamt.org 2112 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://deedlit.animeonline.org/ Check here for the original mp3 of the week! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:42:05 -0400 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: scanners (NDTC) Message-ID: <358FCCCD.B9B4873E@home.com>
Anybody who knows anything about scanners......
I'm thinking of getting a UMAX 1200 (or 1220.... something like that) for $179 or so. Is this a good scanner? What are things I want to took for in a scanner?
Thanks, as always - Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:17:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Partha S. Mukhopadhyay" <pmukhop@med.wayne.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: movie question Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980623121550.25618B-100000@moose>
saw this on another list, it sounds interesting, wondering if any of ya know anything about it.....
note the director, and a couple of the bands involved....an interesting movie concept, though i cringe at how it may have turned out.....
partha
Incident at Channel Q (1986) Category: Musical Director: Storm Thorgerson Cast: Al Corley Run Time: 85 (mins) Rating: R Distributor Name: Musicvision Summary: When a quiet suburban community declares war on a heavy metal v.j., a battle is triggered between the "Metal Heads" and the "Straights" with music provided by an all-star cast including Deep Purple, Bon Jovi, Golden Earring, Kiss, Motley Crue, Rush, Iron Maiden and the Scorpions.
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:02:50 -0700 From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net> To: YTSEJAM - The Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The #Ytse Mirror Message-ID: <358FD1AA.2292C353@pacbell.net>
Hey everyone!
There's a new issue out, although it's lacking an article or two from a couple of slackers (ehem, and you know who you are). ;o)
This issue features an interview with Bernd from Superior, conducted by our lovely Ms. Pam Doise, so be sure to check that out.
There is also a new poll section... this issue's poll asks "what songs would you most like to hear on the new LIVE cd"... the results will be posted in two weeks.
If you'd like to advertise your web page on The #Ytse Mirror, you will find all the information you need on the front page of the current issue.
I'd also like to invite everyone to submit pictures you have from the shows... any cd reviews (new or old) that you'd like to share, show reviews (hint hint to those that attended yesterday's fan club gig), or if you are in the mood to write an editorial on any topic, please send all submissions to ytsemirror@dreamt.org .
Take care everyone :o)
Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl/ _________________________________________ THOUGHTS - The Spock's Beard Mailing List http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/ _________________________________________ The #Ytse Mirror - #ytsejam news & gossip http://www.dreamt.org/ytsemirror/
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:47:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Explorers Club Message-ID: <199806231647.MAA31050@node12.unix.Virginia.EDU>
According to Chris Groves: > > > With the release of this Explorer's Club CD ("Age of Impact"?) by Magna > Carta, if someone who owns this CD could contact me, I'd greatly appreciate
i thought this was due out July 27, but people are reviewing it now. does anyone know for sure if this has been released yet, and if there are any sound clips on the WWW somewhere?
thanks.
-- scott andrews biophysics research sha3u@virginia.edu chemistry department ****************************************************************** --- http://www.people.virginia.edu/~sha3u --- info & CD reviews | Ibanez | soundclips of of major & underground | 7 string | my prog-thrash progressive/thrash metal | guitar info | metal band ATAXIA ****************************************************************** "metal isn't dead, it just smells funny." -Zappa paraphrase
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:57:21 EDT From: AEllis1222@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bye Bye Dream Theater! (fwd) Message-ID: <a86cedd.358fd062@aol.com>
Doesn't anyone check the facts before freaking out?! My heart jumped out of my chest yesterday when I read the no more tours b.s. But I checked a few places, and ran across the proper explanation on UACM. People should check facts before running around like chickens with their heads chopped off!
art
<< For those of you keeping track, I said from the outset that if FII didn't sell better than Awake that they would either have to go to an indy label or call it quits, because East/West Atlantic would drop them. It would be a shame to see it all come to an end, but I'd rather see them give it up then compromise anymore than they already did with FII. Scott >>
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:08:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Lynx bashing <sigh> Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980623140310.7974A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
Adam, you have a problem. I am sorry. I wasn't twisting any words. I know you never mentioned blind people in your post, but I posted that because people need to be aware that there are people who can't handle sites with frames and fancy animation and stuff like that. Let's make this semi-DT related. Under a Cyber Moon, one of the biggest fan sites for Dream Theater, has both versions. Now, Itchy could be the way most web authors are and just say, well screw it, I don't need to make a non-frames text only version of my site because Damon is the only one I know of who is blind. And this isn't even about blind people only. If you took the time to read the whole message, I also said that there are quite a few people who don't use windows. Maybe they use os/2. i don't. maybe they use DOS, UNIX, lynix, or an Amiga for God's sake. Not everybody uses a Mac or Windows 95/NT. Some of us are on college accounts that only have unix shells. I have learened to go through a frames site with lynx, but it doesn't always work. I don't have much of a problem with frames, because I can still get info out of a site. But, when I just see the words "inline" and "link" and "imagemap", what am i supposed to do? Besides, as I said in my original post, lynx is faster, and more reliable. If you don't want to respond to me anymore on this, fine, but I did not twist your words. And don't pull the crap with me about not doing a radio show or watching TV just because of a handicapped person. that is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard. I never put down graphical sites. I think they are a waste of bandwidth personally, but if people feel the need to do them, fine. Just, if you are going to put in the effort to do all this coding for graphics, a little bit more for a stripped down version that will load quicker, even in your fancy browsers, isn't asking much. Or, are you just too damn lazy
-- Damon Fibraio, email damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, vocalist, and looking for work "I can see much clearer, now I'm blind."--Dream Theater, Take The Time, Images and Words
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:18:00 -0400 From: "Lauzon, Gary: IHAB" <Lauzon.Gary@ic.gc.ca> To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Cc: "'DrumGod'" <Portnoy420@aol.com> Subject: DT in Ottawa?!?! Message-ID: <199806231820.LAA23978@odin.ax.com>
>Sun Aug 16th - Congress Center - Ottawa, ONT *** >Mon Aug 17th - Colisee De Quebec - Quebec City, QUE *** >Tues Aug 18th - Molson Center - Montreal, QUE ***
I'm in Ottawa and couldn't help to wonder the following...
either Mike or anyone who MIGHT know .... the Congress center.. holds like what.. umm 2000 people... at the Molson center there will be like 20 000 so could this POSSIBLY be that your coming here (Ottawa) alone?!?!? also.. when will it be comfirmed.
Thx for your time.
Gary
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:36:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Gerdemann <gerdema@lbcc.cc.or.us> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: please remove shawj@lbcc.cc.or.us Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980623113418.16583A-100000@stargate.lbcc.cc.or.us>
The user shawj@lbcc.cc.or.us has been purged in preparation for summer term. Since shawj can no longer recieve mail, please remove shawj from your listserv.
Thank you, LBCC internet support
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:25:59 -0700 From: "John E. Martin" <jem@lainet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: working man, live concerts Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980623122559.006d6b68@lainet.com>
At 12:19 PM 6/23/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi all, >how come nobody talks about the working man album?
I believe the correct form of the question here should be:
"How come nobody talks about the working man album when I'm paying attention to the conversation?"
I believe the topic of the Working Man Tribute has been covered many times. =)
-sp00L
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:24:36 -0800 From: "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ytsejam archive Message-ID: <199806231927.MAA14912@baygate.bayarea.net>
> y'know, this is kinda neat... however, the ytsejams 1 to 2097 are > missing... > I'm really curious for no. 1, please help, anyone?
I don't have anything nearly as far back as digest #1, but I was looking through some old files recently, and found that I still have digests #723 and #731 (not sure why I have those two in particular). I'll be happy to send those to you if you're interested.
Paul
----------- Paul Humm humm@levy.com
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:06:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Mats "Rydstr?m" <rydstrom@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: gigs, festivals + online shopping Message-ID: <19980623200631.24994.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com>
Hi there,
I saw someone reviewing the fan club special thingy and mentioning something about release on CD/video later this year. Could someone elaborate on this, the source of this information, exactly when (!!!!) etcetera. I'd be grateful for more details ;-)
BTW, me and a friend were supposed to go to the Nummirock festival in Finland where DT played last friday, but couldn't for various reasons. Anyone there who could provide me with info on how the festival, and esp DT, was? If this has been done on Ytsejam and I missed it, please point me to the right jam or use private email.
I'm visiting the Roskilde Festival in Denmark this weekend, to see Sabbath, Slayer, Beastie Boys, Dimmu Borgir, Great White (!), The Verve, Iggy Pop, Soulfly, Tori (!) + lots more. Anyone else going? I'll be wearing my old Ytsejam shirt for sure.
One last thing, non-DT-topic, but as fans of music we all could benefit... are there anyone here with lots of experience from shopping CD:s online? I know I got my LTE for $11.89 incl shipping (to Sweden!) but that was some special deal on CDNow. Generally, if I would, say, like to buy a whole batch of old Pink Floyd, or Black Sabbath, or Yes albums to complete my collection, which is the best place and what prices should one consider good? I'm asking since records in Sweden are criminally expensive and I can't tell whether a mid-price is really what a mid-price should be. If this is too off topic, take it to personal email.
Thanx!
Mats Rydström
P.S. We've reached 4000? Whoa! Been here since 325 or something :-)
............................................................. Mats Rydström - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - rydstrom@rocketmail.com the LORD ROSSE Home Page... http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry .............................................................. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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