YTSEJAM Digest 4005
Today's Topics:
1) Video
by "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com>
2) dreamtheater.com
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
3) Re: ytsejam archive
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
4) Re: DT/DP/ELP on Wantagh 08/09 :(
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
5) Re: Conception (NDTC)
by "Timothy P. Shough" <hounddog@nji.com>
6) Re: Tiles
by Totikus <totikus@gmx.net>
7) Material?
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
8) Re: Baltimore ProgRock (NDTC)
by Rob Bowen <rfbow@erols.com>
9) Anekdoten/Always Almost/Dark Aether Project 7/3 Philly area show
by "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com>
10) #Ytsejam IRC bio section on UACM
by "Ryan Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
11) Blindness
by "Jon Kretschmer" <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
12) reviews...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
13) wow.. I'm back, and all I have to say is phew!!
by Inflammabl@aol.com
14) Why me?? This sucks.
by Inflammabl@aol.com
15) Mike Bahr - missing the point
by Calvin6S@aol.com
16) keyboardists opinions needed
by "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
17) Re: dreamtheater.com
by Theiban@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:02:10 -0400
From: "Emerson, Michael J." <memerson@mail.PWCG.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Video
Message-ID: <BDBBCD37EA65D1119E9600A0C9982D754DC207@PW03>
has anyone, perchance, come across a video for either of the recent NY
area shows (May 7th @ Birch Hell or May 8th @ Irving Plaza)?
if you have either (or both) of these and would like to make a copy, i
would be willing to pay quite well (i also have quite a few other
bootleg videos you might be interested in (primarily DT and QR)...)
mikE
____________________________________________________________
"His final scene, the actor bows /
And all those years are gone somehow /
The crowd applauds, the curtain falls..."
Dream Theater - "Take Away My Pain"
Does anyone know what a perfect pitch is?
A perfect pitch is when you throw an accordion into a dumpster,
and it lands on a banjo!
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:18:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: dreamtheater.com
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980623161618.22A-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
> BTW, anybody ever wonder who's got the VERY important domain
> dreamtheater.com? Have a look at http://www.dreamtheater.com/main.html
No, we don't. This comes up (like the lightbulb thing and the Bahr thing)
about every four months or so. They got the domain first. They're entitled
to it.
Gabbo, is this in the FAQ yet? Gabbo, do we *have* an FAQ update yet? :)
:)
Ta,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal)
Tech Support Manager, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
"I never should have written all those tank programs."
-- Kevin Flynn, "Tron"
Currently playing:
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: ytsejam archive
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980623131720.24272A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Alejandro Paredes wrote:
>y'know, this is kinda neat... however, the ytsejams 1 to 2097 are
>missing...
>I'm really curious for no. 1, please help, anyone?
>
Don't be. It had three Bahr Wars threads (with about two or three
messages a piece), four unsubscribes, flamewars about how WDADU kicked
I&W's ass all over the pavement because CD was such a better singer than
JL, and three message wondering if CD will ever come back.
And then there was Skadz... (grin)
--Matt
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"Saying a band is 'progressive' because they wear pirate shirts and
write songs about the discovery of tungsten, yeah, we made that up."
--Brian Henderson
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:39:32 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT/DP/ELP on Wantagh 08/09 :(
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980623181545.30472A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Karol! wrote:
> ::Sun Aug 9th - Jones Beach Theater - Wantagh, LI, NY::
>
> Man, I just can't believe it. I'll be in nyc in aug but won't see DT/DP/ELP
> concert on 08/09 'cause I'll be coming back the day before...
> :( :( :(
>
> Just sharing my suffering...
If you attended the shows here, you must have heard what James
LaBrie said, that they would come back here during the FII Tour. So, I ask
MP: are you planning touring places other than US and Europe? If not, then
please don't announce that you will be returning, because you *know* your
fans will be waiting for some shows.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
(...)
"No," said the little prince. "I am looking for friends. What does
that mean -- 'tame'?"
"It is an act too often neglected," said the fox. "It means to
establish ties."
"'To establish ties'?"
"Just that," said the fox. "To me, you are still nothing more than a
little boy who is just like a hundred thousand other little boys. And I
have no need of you. And you, on your part, have no need of me. To you, I
am nothing more than a fox like a hundred thousand other foxes. But if you
tame me, then we shall be unique in all the world..."
(...)
"If, for example, you come at four o'clock in the afternoon, then
at three o'clock I shall begin to be happy. I shall feel happier and
happier as the hour advances. At four o'clock, I shall already be worrying
and jumping about. I shall show you how happy I am!"
(...)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Antoine de Saint-Exupery, "Le Petit Prince"
"Foxly" yours, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:04:57 -0700 From: "Timothy P. Shough" <hounddog@nji.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Conception (NDTC) Message-ID: <35906CD9.54D7@nji.com>
Matt Smith notes:
> Album Currently Playing: Conception--In Your Multitude
Is this band still alive? I know that their excellent vocalist had split for Kamelot :) but I haven't heard anything about the rest of the band. I hope they're still kicking; Flow is great. Thanks for any info.
Tim
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:10:51 -0400 From: Totikus <totikus@gmx.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Tiles Message-ID: <0EV100A524H0OI@PM04SM.PMM.MCI.NET>
Can someone tell me something about this band? I read an article about them in a magazine but have never heard of them in any other places... ---------------------------------------------------------- | Totikus totikus@hotmail.com | | A Fortune In Midis - The Dream Theater Midi Page | | http://members.xoom.com/totikus/ | | "A man must learn to cope, if his obsession's real | | Suppression that he feels must turn to hope." | | Dream Theater, "Take The Time" | ----------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:43:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Material? Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980623203644.26202D-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
I was wondering some time ago: I know that music cd s are something "material"......but what it contains (music), is oftentimes very "spiritual".....therefore, i kinda think that most of the cds in my collection (or every cd out there for that matter) are "spiritual" goods, instead of material things. I dont know if i explained myself clearly on this one....but what i meant is that i dont think that some material things (cd s in this case), are viewed that way by some people....i must be a freak or something! :) What do you jammers think about this?
Mauricio
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:29:35 -0400 From: Rob Bowen <rfbow@erols.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Baltimore ProgRock (NDTC) Message-ID: <3590648E.63508B7C@erols.com>
If you're looking for cool prog shows in the Baltimore area, this site will clue you in.
http://prog.ari.net/prog/shows/showcase/other.html
If you can, check out the band Emerald Tiers. They have a cool sound. Here's their website:
http://www.vt.edu:10021/J/jsugar/band/emerald.html
>The rumor is that Baltimore Maryland is a hot bed for prog rock, and prog >rock cd shops. I'm going down there on Wednesday and I'm looking to do >some shopping. Anyone have any ideas?
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:54:52 -0400 From: "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com> To: "A Ytse Besides Itself" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Anekdoten/Always Almost/Dark Aether Project 7/3 Philly area show Message-ID: <002d01bd9f1b$77008ca0$adcacdcf@syrinx>
I know this isn't DT related, but this is going to be a helluva show. I will be in attendance, so if anyone wants to meet up, then please lemme know.
- mike.
-----Original Message----- Newsgroups: rec.music.progressive,phl.music Subject: Anekdoten/Always Almost/Dark Aether Project 7/3 Philly area show
>Come on out to see Sweden's Anekdoten in one of only two* US performances >in 1998. They will be joined by Always Almost (from PA) and The Dark >Aether Project (from MD) for a special night of music starting at 7PM >on Friday, July 3rd at the William Bolton Dixon American Legion Hall >located at 493 South Bethlehem Pike in Fort Washington, PA. > >[Please note the change from the previously announced venue in Lansdale] > >Admission is $15 at the door. All ages are welcome. > >Directions: > >From northern New Jersey, New York and points north: Take 295 or the New >Jersey Turnpike south to 276 (Pennsylvania Turnpike) west. See 276 >continuation below. > >From Maryland, Delaware and points south: Take 95 north to 476 north and >then get on 276 (Pennsylvania Turnpike) headed east. See 276 continuation >below. > >From 276 (Pennsylvania Turnpike), take exit 26 towards Fort Washington/ >Philadelphia/Ambler. DO NOT go up onto 309, go UNDER it. Then bear right >onto West Pennsylvania Avenue. At the end of Pennsylvania, turn left onto >Bethlehem Pike and follow it to the aforementioned address.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:31:32 -0500 From: "Ryan Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: #Ytsejam IRC bio section on UACM Message-ID: <004001bd9f20$97e0bda0$a300430c@dwhit>
Whoa, this is weird. I was just doing my daily cruise on Itchy's rad "Under a Cyber Moon" site, and I happened to look in the #ytsejam bio section, and lo and behold, I'm on there! I didn't remember submitting my name on there ever, so I clicked on my name and down scrolled a description of me saying that I'm just about to start college and that I inhabit the #ytsejam channel 24 hours a day. That was over two years ago!! =) Time flies.
I'm going to start doing IRC again sometime soon, I forgot how cool it was.
Take care, everybody! Ryan Whitaker Scarred Records http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:42:57 -0700 From: "Jon Kretschmer" <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Blindness Message-ID: <199806240345.UAA19710@smtp.ucsd.edu>
Damn, finally back on the jam after a while. School ending, work starting, and a family reunion thrown in just to spice things up <blech>. Nothing I like better than shootin the shit with my dead beat, drunkass uncle.
> From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
> fourth, html mail. I have decided that sending mail that > shows up as both plain text and HTML is now grounds for removal from > the jam.
I really hope this email doesnt have any mime or html shit on it. If it does, Ill go back to posting with my old program. Trying out a new one just for kicks.
> fifth, i have seen some people lately sending little one-line > funnies to the jam. STOP.
Be afraid Mosh, be very afraid.
> From: Joe Kruger <joekruger@yahoo.com> > Do you consider Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, and Master of Puppets > the best three albums ever made? Iced Earth may be the band for you.
Is this for real? SPAM alert. I feel an Arash developing. ; )
In other news, Kudos to Paul Humm for sending me TWO Yes/ELP sampler tapes. What a man, what a man, what a mighty good man...
>From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> >Also, as a blind person, and there is another blind >person on this list who can back me up, lynx sometimes is our only option.
You know, Ive always heard that there are two certainties in this world. Death and taxes. Well, I formally request that the age-old proverb be changed to "There are _three_ certainties in this world. Death, taxes, and in each of his posts to the Ytsejam, a mention from Damon about his blindnes."
I mean no disrespect. But to me you are just begging for sympathy and/or attention. Being blind would suck, Im not saying it wouldnt. But you have been on the list for a long time. Possibly longer than I. It just isnt necessary for you to tell us every 2nd or 3rd message that you lack the ability to see. Everyone knows that you are blind. You dont need to keep reminding us. Should I mention that I have bad gas in every message I ever send to the jam? : )
I gotta get going. Night everyone, time to start listening to some Yes and ELP.
Jon
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:46:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: reviews... Message-ID: <199806240346.XAA04945@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, this weekend was a great weekend for music for me, so time to post a few reviews.
First off, I'll start with Open All Night Record's Savatage The Age of Discovery and DT Static Progress. First off, with both of them, packaging is amazing, high quality glossy color inserts and even glossy CD labels. I must say, I am impressed by those, even though they typoed John Muyng instead of Myung, but other than that, very cool. Static Progress is very good sounding, one of the better boots from the Touring Into Infinity tour that I have heard, especially cool because it has Trial of Tears and Speak To Me on it, neither of which did I see live. The only _slight_ disappointment is that the bonus tracks from this CD appear to be from the Japanese Awake PPV show, which I already have on CD, so I would have liked to see something different there, but can't have it all, I guiess... :) Now, onto Savatage Age of Discovery. Again, this is very good sounding (listening right now, would call it A (or A+) quality. The show was very cool, although no Paragons of Innocense, but again, can't have it all, especially since they only started this on the US lef of the tour. Sound is again very high, at least an A. The bonus tracks for this one are also from a Japanese show, this time, from the Dead Winter Dead tour, with 4 tracks from DWD (something suprisingly missing from this tour). Anyway, very cool show, glad to finally have a Savatage show to add to my collection.
This takes me to some ***SPOILERS*** for the Savatage show at Birch Hell (was down in NY for the weekend for something else, when I find out from Wisha/Rachel that Savatage was in NJ that weekend). Got to the show in time for the first of 3 opening acts. The first 2 were local, much like the first one at Danbury and were pretty interesting. Both were 80's metal bands, the second doing a few cover tunes, including Queen of The Ryche. Wasn't familiar w/ the rest of them b/c I have wasn't a big 80's metal fan... The touring act, Ant???crusis somethign or other again sucked, IMO. Poor match, them being a rap-metal band, which someone compared to Korn (wouldn't know, don't listen to them) who were almost booed off the stage.
Savatage finally came on at like midnight, and put on an amazing 2 hour show. I'm not completly familiar w/ Savatage material before DWD, but had some cool stuff I recognized. Jon and Zach both sang alot, and they both alternated all throughout Paragons of Innocense, very cool sounding, IMO, better than Jon alone as was done in Danbury.
The next set of CDs that I got this weekend were the rest of the Spock's Beard collection from Jessie/Lisa Marie... I got a copy of Kindness of Strangers frokm CDNow, and immediatly decided I needed the rest of the collection. All of them are very good. Have not listened to them too much (lots of new CDs, after all), but am impressed. For any prog _ROCK_ fan, these are a must have, as long as your remember its prog rock, not prog metal, so it is much lighter than something like DT, Savatage, or the like.
-- +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:57:54 EDT From: Inflammabl@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: wow.. I'm back, and all I have to say is phew!! Message-ID: <5f5a3877.35906b33@aol.com>
Hey all.. Well, I have to tell you.. it's been a while since I've been able to post, but I read quickly over the jam, and saw the "DT last tour" post, and nearly shit myself!! But, thank god (after a couple of beers) I calmed down and saw the follow up post telling us that "it ain't so" !!! Thank you god! I was ready to jump in front of moving traffic (not really, but I'm searching for a good adjective) Anyways, so this doesn't seem like a totally useless post, I wanted to send my music review of a "new" album. Well actually, an album that has been out since the fall, but I haven't had the opportunity to write about it: Sevendust. This band from Atlanta ROCKS!! Definately a step up in the music world. I must say that it is very musically talented, grooves and is dark and heavy. I bought tickets to Ozzfest just for the sole reason of seeing Sevendust. The other bands are an added bonus! Well, it's nice to see everyone again. If any of you are going to the DT show in August in Portland Maine, drop me an e mail and I'll try to find you at the concert!! Later, J
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:29:20 EDT From: Inflammabl@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Why me?? This sucks. Message-ID: <2e9276c0.35907291@aol.com>
All I get is bad news. I just got this report from the Ticketmaster Webs= ite:=20 Megadeth Drummer Quits Tour Due To Illness Megdeth Drummer Nick Menza has been forced to withdraw from the band=92s =91Cryptic Writi= ngs" world tour, after discovering a tumor in his right knee. In a message pos= ted on the band=92s official web site, Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine says Menza has had tes= ts, but =91the results were evidently unclear, as he didn=92t tell me if they= found any cancer or not. He will have surgery on or about June 29th." In the meantime, Menza=92s spot will continue to be filled by former Suicidal Tendencies member Jimmy Grasso, who has been performing with the band sin= ce their June 10th show in Fresno, California. The "Cryptic Writings" tour i= s currently slated to wrap up on August 2nd at the Nissan Pavilion in Brist= ow, Virginia.=20 So, I wonder how Ozzfest will be? Guess I'll have to wait and find = out.=20
More bad news: According to the ticketmaster website, the DT show at the CCC in Portland ME, has been cancelled, no further info was available, if anyone= has info as to why.. please e mail me. Thanks.. The world sucks, J
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:38:17 EDT From: Calvin6S@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Bahr - missing the point Message-ID: <bda30da6.3590123b@aol.com>
I'll try to be brief concerning the NEW Bahr/Skadz war because the whole Bahr war is just getting stupid now. Mike Bahr - you totally overlooked the POSITIVES for you in Skadz's new commandment concerning you.
Skadz told the "buying public" to no longer post to the ytsejam concerning Bahr CDs. You should be happy. The reason people are posting to the jam is because they are using the power of a public forum to get you attention. Everytime they use this public forum, I am sure 10 or new jammers contemplating buying a Bahr CD do not do so because of the public address to you. With this public forum becoming off limits to such posts, you are the beneficiary.
I know this to be true because when I found the ytsejam in Feb 98 - I also found Prism Records. I was about to buy some Bahr CDs until I read the Bahr War jams. So, THIS NEW COMMANDMENT IS A GOOD THING FOR YOU.
I would suggest you just DEAL WITH IT and catch up your backlog. If the complaints are bothering you, then take away their reason to complain by catching up the backlog.
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:58:53 -0400 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: keyboardists opinions needed Message-ID: <000301bd9f2d$112dc980$cb596acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
All right peoples, I need some opinions. Damon, since you seem to be the resident in house keyboard expert, tell me, what song would you choose (by dream theater) to play for a person if you wanted to blow the socks off of em in the keyboarding world. Basically, what song is either Moore/Sherinian at his best? Frankly I don't have a clue, so any opinions would be nice. Thanks :)
Scott
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:08:35 EDT From: Theiban@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: dreamtheater.com Message-ID: <948b42ae.359089d4@aol.com>
like someone said before, maybe dreamtheater.com is using dream theater's name, but isn't dream theater using "the dream theater"'s name? which is the theater they got the name from. i believe.
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