YTSEJAM Digest 4014
Today's Topics:
1) Prism Queensryche cds for sale
by Kevin <kvill@flash.net>
2) Correction
by Barbara B <babs@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu>
3) Marillion Remasters
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
4) Marillion Remasters
by AlexandroTalamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br>
5) re: Ibanez color
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
6) Greets all!
by "Andrew Brodie" <andrew@ames.net>
7) DT related domain
by "Andrew Brodie" <andrew@ames.net>
8) Re: Dali's Dilemma (NDTC)
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
9) Marillion Remasters
by Dave Thomas <dthomas@best.com>
10) e-mails and Bahr
by MentalHunk@aol.com
11) Eatta at Luigi's :)
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
12) Steve Morse/LTE
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
13) RE: FX processors/ Gigs
by "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
14) Pictures of the DT concert in Rotterdam
by Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
15) web pages
by Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu>
16) Dey tot a Mareen tu reed!
by "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:34:11 -0500
From: Kevin <kvill@flash.net>
To: YtseJam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Prism Queensryche cds for sale
Message-ID: <35939543.DA609001@flash.net>
I have to prism Queensryche releases for sale at either $20 each or $38
for both (ppd in US):
Queensryche-Myths and Warnings
Queensryche-Visions of Another Time
Both are in my possession and are ready to ship. E-Mail me at
kvill@flash.net if interested. Thanks, Kevin.
-- ----------------------------------------------------------- Used CDs are always for sale at: http://www.flash.net/~kvill/cdsale.html Updated regularly! -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:51:04 -0400 From: Barbara B <babs@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Correction Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980626085104.0068eda4@sgenaa.cc.geneseo.edu>
Back to the adaptive technology thread upon review of our software I found that OMNI 3000 is from Kurzweil Educ. Systems and HumanWare is a vendor of the product.
Babs
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:19:47 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Marillion Remasters Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34170A499@ms.kallback.com>
> 2) Marillion -- are the remastered albums significantly > better-sounding > than the nonremasters? My (non) remastered copy of "Script for a > Jester's > Tear" sounds pretty damn good. Anyhow, what I'm asking here is, are > they > really worth the extra dough? They sound a lot better than the originals, but what's better are the bonus disks that come with each remaster which include all the b-sides, demos and alternative versions. These are worth the price of admission themselves. Remastered so far: Script, Fugazi, Seasons End, Holidays in Eden. Coming soon: Brave, Misplaced Childhood Coming later: Afraid of Sunlight, Clutching at Straws. For more info look at Itchy's site.
I don't know jack about King Crimson. Trevor
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:37:41 -0300 From: AlexandroTalamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Marillion Remasters Message-ID: <CB9A835262C6D1118B3B00805FEA2A71077254@CORREIO>
Brian Henderson wrote:
>>> 2) Marillion -- are the remastered albums significantly better-sounding >>> than the nonremasters? My (non) remastered copy of "Script for a Jester's >>> Tear" sounds pretty damn good. Anyhow, what I'm asking here is, are they >>> really worth the extra dough?
Definitely YES :-) I got SCRIPT, FUGAZI and REAL TO REEL remasters (and I got the NON as well) and they are just awesome. Better sound quality, great artwork and a bonus disk with different versions of many songs and songs not included in the original albuns (from some singles). You won't be desapointed.
Alexandro Curitiba, Brazil
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:15:10 -0400 From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Ibanez color Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980626101510.006a67ac@scott.skidmore.edu>
Hmmm, well, my Ibanez is black, but it has no serial number hehe. Ah well...I guess I could try to find it, but they no longer make the model....
Any suggestions? The American Master series kinda got pushed aside by the JPM's, as far as I know, because they were essentially the same thing at the time. All I know about my guitar is that's MA2HSH, but nothing more specific than that....
Erica
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:53:34 -0500 From: "Andrew Brodie" <andrew@ames.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Greets all! Message-ID: <002701bda112$33ddd060$0e681ace@ns.ames.net>
Hey everyone!
Due to some major wrenches being thrown into my life, I had to take a somewhat substantial hiatus from the Jam and also from #ytsejam. But I'm back and it's great to be back! Looking forward to many great digests and late-nights chats on IRC. Take care.
TTFN -acb
Andrew Craig Brodie andrew@ames.net
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:59:19 -0500 From: "Andrew Brodie" <andrew@ames.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT related domain Message-ID: <002901bda113$018fe520$0e681ace@ns.ames.net>
Here's a question for everyone that I'm sure may get some interesting response ... (thinking back to older posts about DT related license plate #'s) I'm trying to come up with a cool domain for my personal web site. I'd like it to be DT related somehow ... either actual song title or lyrically related. (i.e. www.silentscream.org would be lyrically related, however, it's already taken :(
So, if any of you have any cool ideas, you can contact me privately at andrew@ames.net or on the list I guess.
Btw, my nice on #ytsejam is TearyEyes for any of you wondering. Laterz.
TTFN -acb
Andrew Craig Brodie andrew@ames.net
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:15:07 -0700 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dali's Dilemma (NDTC) Message-ID: <009901bda115$704b2540$77a4d6d0@multimedia>
>So I'm listening to the old demo of 'Living in Fear' back when D.D. was >Chaos Theory, and I'm thinking, 'man, this is really good, but good God, >get that drummer off of crack!'
Mike...you're gonna dig the CD. Didn't you know you have to be on crack and a pot of coffee to play in this band? ;) The scary thing is that this CD doesn't show them at 100%.
peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:24:23 -0700 From: Dave Thomas <dthomas@best.com> To: "'ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Marillion Remasters Message-ID: <01BDA0DB.D4F5C340.dthomas@best.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:58:50 -0400 ]From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> Subject: Remasters of the Universe
>2) Marillion -- are the remastered albums significantly better-sounding >than the nonremasters? My (non) remastered copy of "Script for a Jester's >Tear" sounds pretty damn good. Anyhow, what I'm asking here is, are they >really worth the extra dough?
I think they're worth it. I personally thought "Script" sounded like a brand new recording. Plus, you get an extra CD of all sorts of BSides and other odd tracks with each remaster, so I think it's a good deal.
Dave Thomas - Editor, Pixel Planet Reviews of CG software, books, games, comics, music movies and more! http://www.pixelplanet.com
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:36:08 EDT From: MentalHunk@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: e-mails and Bahr Message-ID: <b2ffafe6.3593bfea@aol.com>
Mike BAhr : "What would you all rather I do, shoot the shit with you via e-mail, or fulfill your order? "
I've never ordered from Mike Bahr, but I found this amusing.....Mike, you said yourself when you posted a lot that it did'nt slow down your production at all (when people said to quit posting and get to work sending out cd's) because you use different equipment to do your cds....Now you're saying a few e-mails are going to slow you down....So if you want to call someone a hypocrit , look in the mirror.... I have nothing against you, I just have the curse of being perceptive...
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:01:47 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Eatta at Luigi's :) Message-ID: <3593C5EA.28D9@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
> That and the fact that apparently > since I make modern web pages with graphics
I would suggest that a modern, progressive server, for example, should sense that a client doesn't support java, and instead, trigger the automatic coffee maker connected to the serial port to begin brewing :)
> <GASP! isn't that the point of > the web in the first place - a graphical interface to the net?>
<BAH WRONG!> :)
]From http://www.w3.org/Talks/General/Concepts.html I quote:
"We keep the W3 goal of "universal readership" without compromising total functionality at the high level."
There is nothing in that statement which indicates the 'point' of the web being graphics. Check the page out. It offers an interesting perspective. It doesn't say graphics suck. It says the goal is to have your cake and eat it too. You apparently have decided that only certain people will dine at your web site. Peh :)
The quote says "We keep", not "You must keep".
A good site puts the user in control of the access to the information, as opposed to forcing it upon them. If that's too much for you as an author to handle, many surfers simply go 'see ya' :) If you want to leave a certain percentage of the popluation that simply can't, FOR WHATEVER REASON, support graphics, or whatever other little silly gadget you happen to think is cool, that's your decision. I do visit sites that have graphics and cool gadgets, by the way, if it wasn't obvious.
The amount of time/TEXT you wasted posting pn this thread, you probably could have supported Lynx by now.
Chris:
> But it's not the web master's inherent responsibility to do so.
100% correct. No one's forcing anyone to do anything.
> You can't expect someone to rewrite their site so that a small > demographic can view it.
I don't. I've seen sites designed from the beginning with what's called a 'User Centered Design Approach.' There's no rewriting involved. Once again, no one's forcing you to do anything, tough guy :)
> You can request it, but you still have no reason to think that > the idea will ever be considered unless you're willing to help fix > it.
Maybe not considered by some. I'd rather go somewhere else where someone already built it into the design in the first place. I have every reason to believe that the idea is ALREADY being considered by people who care about it (see http reference below). No one's forcing _them_ to either :)
And yes, it's quite true many provide the service for free and thus owe nothing to anyone. Cool! :) I'd hope that the attitude wouldn't be extended to case of web authoring in general.
Damon (and anyone else who might be interested),
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ looks quite promising.
]From the top of the page:
"The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect." -- Tim Berners-Lee, W3C Director and inventor of the World Wide Web
Hmmm, from the man himself :)
It appears some people out there are "bothering."
Jon K wrote: >Carol wrote: >> I never felt he was reminding us. >I did.
That's your problem then. He didn't force you to read it. Moreover, the meaning you attached to it was your own doing. I don't happen to think it's that big a deal that he mentions it. He seems a lot more adjusted about it then people's reactions about it on here indicate. Why is it some people can whine till their tear ducts bleed about why, for example, DT doesn't do play this song live or hurry up and finish that album or why isn't Kevin still in the band, and that's not nearly half as bad? Oh wait, it's DTC, sorry, nevermind :)
Regards, Jon
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:12:55 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Steve Morse/LTE Message-ID: <3593C887.799@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Neil Evans wrote on Steve Morse Band:
> Watching him play those classical guitar/bass duets > live with bassist Dave LaRue was just unreal.
Hell yeah!
Larue keeps up with him!!! Another exception to the 'Berklee is no guarantee' theory of music education :)
> For the most obvious Morse-ism in Petrucci's playing, just listen to the > fast chromatic part of the "You Not Me" solo. That's pure Morse.
I'll have to pay attention to that.
Morse just seems to get better and better...
Damon wrote:
> Quite different in the fact that that > music was highly composed and constructed, especially the sequenced parts.
I'm not sure if by 'sequences' you mean loops (I'm not a keyboardist), but Jeremy H (at least) can back me up on this one, I believe. I thought Jordan said at one of his clinics that he uses almost NO sequences. He's has load of sound patches, but those loop thingies that sound like they're running on automatic are actually Jordan's fingers on overdrive!
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:59:13 -0500 From: "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: FX processors/ Gigs Message-ID: <l03130300b1b97dd04251@[129.116.47.106]>
>modulation, Intelligent pitch shifting, delay, reverb, and maybe >compression and gate. Don't care too much about the verb as I hate reverb, >but I'd like to have the mods on separate channels (phaser, flange, >chorus). MUST BE MIDI and under $500 (new or used).
Good luck! I haven't looked too much recently, but I think most digital FX units for that price are crap. The A/D D/A converters are usually shit, so your tone gets trashed. I used a rocktron intellifex for about two years with my triaxis, and it sounded decent. one day I bypassed the intellifex all together, just for fun, and my tone improved about a billion percent. the cleans were no longer too spanky and the distortions had real Ballz 'n' Chunk (as opposed to the quasi-B'N'C with the intellifex in) now I use a Danelectro Cool Kat analog chorus in the FX loop of the Triaxis, and it sounds awesome (I don't have much use for delay or reverb or much else). However, the Rocktron Replifex is a real good unit. it has eq in it as well, so it livens up the tone so it doesn't sound so digital. This one is about 8-900 new, so it could be around 500 used. the pitch-shifting isn't intelligent, though, just set intervals, and there's a slight delay on the attack of the harmony note (the average listener couldn't tell, though). I also used to use the Alesis Quadraverb GT processor/preamp, which was a mediocre unit. I hear the Q2 is nice, though. Some of the features you're asking for can't be found at the price you want. Separate channels, intelligent PS, etc, are only gonna be on $1000 units. A lot of this depends on what you want it for, though. If it's just for playing by yourself or with a garage band just jamming, or if it's just as a hobby, then just about any old unit will suffice. But, if you're going to be playing gigs with it, and trying to be in a professional band, I would save up until you can afford at least something in the $800-1000 price range. It pays off in the long run. I skimped on the FX processor a few years ago and I'm paying for it now. All my spare money has to go into my band's CD so we can get it out, so I'm not going to be getting any new guitar stuff for a while (I would like a TC electronics or Lexicon processor, but DiscMakers needs cash money, and lots of it).
I've got a question for all you gigging musicians out there: how much do y'all make in a typical club gig? A portion of the door? a set price? the amount based on the number of discount tickets you hand out? I have a feeling these San Antonio clubs are ripping us off, but they're the only experience we've got so far, so we can't be sure. Feedback?
James C. Shields Undergraduate University of Texas at Austin =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spread before you is your soul So forever hold the dreams within our hearts Through Nature's inflexible grace I'm Learning to live Dream Theater "Learning to Live" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:00:59 +0200 From: Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl> To: David Van Glabeke <hawkey@skynet.be>, DT mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Pictures of the DT concert in Rotterdam Message-ID: <3593D3CB.73BB@wxs.nl>
David Van Glabeke wrote: > > Hello, > Ik heb gisteren ook het fantastische concert meegemaakt van > DT....fenomenaal...ik zie ze terug zondag op Graspop in I have made pictures of the DT fanclub special unplugged performance. I got them back from the developer's this afternoon and I'm glad to say that eight of the pictures are of really good quality. If you're interested, send 10 Dutch guilders or 5 US$ (paper money only please) to the address below. This includes postage.
Description of the pictures:
James singing, with Derek in the background Close-up of John P. playing John P. with acoustic guitar, perfect composition, with moody purple light in the background Mike singing an drumming, pretty close John P. and Mike going tete a tete during one of the LTE bits
John M. to the far left, James taking a rest with a lowel around his neck, Mike in the background John M., pretty close up Derek in s seventies' trance, pretty close -- Richard Karsmakers & Karin Kessels karies@wxs.nl \===----------- "Ultimate Virus Killer"; "WWW-MMM" -----------===/ | "ST NEWS" Atari disk magazine: www.scriba.org/stnews | |Atari ST Emulation FAQ: members.aol.com/rg1004/atstemu.faq.html| | GWAR FUQ/FAQ: www.gwar.net/fuq.html | /===--- "Twilight World" magazine: www.scriba.org/twilight ---===\ P.O. Box 67, NL-3500 AB, Utrecht, The Netherlands
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:40:20 -0400 From: Deedlit <ebonomi@scott.skidmore.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: web pages Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980626134020.006a387c@scott.skidmore.edu>
With all the huffing and puffing about the web, I'd like to think my pages are pretty decent. They usually involve both graphical and text links, and barely any javascript at all. No frames either! ;) Sorry to plug my pages, but I have to hehe...no one knows about them really. I just improved my DT pages (WHOAH! DTC!) with samples and some sounds taken from the DTIFC CD--hillarious stuff. If you want to check them out, you can go to my home: http://www.skidmore.edu/~ebonomi/ or directly to the DT pages, http://deedlit.animeonline.org/dt.html
I also feature the ORIGINAL mp3 of the week! :) You can check that out via my index or http://deedlit.animeonline.org/mp3.html.
Notice: my animeonline index is dysfunctional because of a routing problem.
Sorry about the plug, but there is DTC! :p
Erica
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:38:14 -0400 From: "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dey tot a Mareen tu reed! Message-ID: <3593DC86.FAA6C4D7@bah.com>
Hey, whatever happened to that Mike Portnoy crap-cam idea people were throwing around a few months back? An idea like that deserves to be resurrected.
On a DTC note: I picked up "the inner game of music" at the local library (Petrucci listed it as his favorite book in a biography on one o' dem webpages, for those of you scratching your heads and saying "what DTC?"), and it looks pretty interesting so far...Only read the first few chapters, but there seem to be some neat-O ideas in it. I guess if you've lost that special "climbing the gym class rope" feeling about playing guitar, this could kick some motivation into yer system. (I'm a Marine, by the way. Things don't make marines "happy", they motivate us. Insert monosyllabic grunt here.) Anyone else familiar w/ the book?
Amusing thought for the day: John Petrucci leaves band, grows dread-locks, and plays for the ICP (Insane Clown Posse). Could even write lyrics for songs about "screwin' dead bitches".
Later,
-Looeeeeeeeeeeee
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