YTSEJAM Digest 3603
Today's Topics:
1) Triangle
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
2) Re: Guitars
by Robban <robban.andersson@swipnet.se>
3) CYNIC
by Joe Marshaleck <K4HB@Maristb.MARIST.EDU>
4) That's Amore.
by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
5) Re: Plectronimus
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
6) School or Lessons, or Home Study, or Osmosis...
by someone@prognosis.com
7) Re: School or Lessons, or Home Study, or Osmosis...
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
8) Re: Drummers instrument thread
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
9) Re: Drummers instrument thread
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
10) Guitars and Shredding...
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3602
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
12) Phalling Into Infinity
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
13) Big Wreck
by Chris Bowsman <cbowsma@pop3.utoledo.edu>
14) drums, assorted stuff.Some DTC.
by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
15) Candlebox
by "Daniel Alexandre Bonatti" <dbonatti@sti.com.br>
16) Re: CYNIC
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
17) Re: Candlebox
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
18) New Joe
by Eric Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu>
19) Re: Magna Carta
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:22:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Triangle
Message-ID: <199803031622.LAA05240@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Saith Vince about the rigs request:
> Ooooh, bad idea :) There's at least 200 guitarists on this list, and 100
> bassists or so. Everybody and their left-nut sister is gonna post their
> rigs :)
Actually, I'm loving it. I always have loved all the gearheads and their
technobabble. I recently found that I scored highly in Guitar magazine's "What's
you gear IQ <and I don't even play guitar!>. I didn't do as well in Guitar Shop's
<the BEST Guitar mag> similar quiz, but they had questions like "what was the
first year Gibson put PAF pickups in their Les Pauls?" Who cares!?!?!? Les Pauls
suck! :)
> Also, let's not forget how bored the non-musicians are gonna be. People
> who just listen to the music and aren't _musically_ inclined (you
> know...like drummers and techies and the guys in the back of the orchestra
> with the triangle :) are gonna get bored with this real quick.
I'm a singer now, but back when I was a MUSICIAN <joke, people!> I played the
trumpet in my elementary school band <well over 10 years ago>. In one piece we
played we had a triangle part that never seemed to come in at the right time. I
kept yelling at the guy who was supposed to play it; i.e. I kept turning around
and cueing him, but still he would miss it. Finally he said, "if you're so smart,
YOU play it!" Not one to back down from a challenge, I took the triangle and
beater-thingie, took off a shoelace and with it affixed the triangle to my
trumpet. When the time came, I used my left hand <I'm left handed anyway, so it
was no big deal> to do the necessary accents on the triangle. My band instructo
wouldn't let me do it in performance though. :/
Steve Z
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 17:49:46 +0100
From: Robban <robban.andersson@swipnet.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Guitars
Message-ID: <34FC34A9.6D79@swipnet.se>
Chris Bowsman <cbowsma@pop3.utoledo.edu> wrote:
>what kinda guitars, amps, effects, strings, picks, etc...does everybody
>here use?
OK if you want to know i Use: Ibanez JEM 555 with daddario strings
0.09-0.46 always in regular tuning. Kawaii Aquarius Guitar with=20
daddario strings 0.09-0.48 in open Eb open D drop D or drop C tuning.
I use a Marshall valvestate 80 watts combo.
The effect i use is a Rocktec chorus, George Dennis Tremolo-volume,
boss octaver and a ordinary cry-baby.
I thougt of getting a Digitech wammy pedal. But it wasn=B4t so good on
the things i wanted it to be.
The new project is to get a 7-stringed guitar which I always have
wanted. But guitars are expensive here in Sweden i payed 14000 swedish
kronor for my Ibanez which is about 1800 american dollars.
Tune in turn on drop out!!!
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:59:53 EST
From: Joe Marshaleck <K4HB@Maristb.MARIST.EDU>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CYNIC
Message-ID: <03MAR98.12958075.0397.MUSIC@MARISTB.MARIST.EDU>
does anyone out there like CYNIC? i am really in to them. I am
wondering if and when a new album will be coming out. Please let me
know.
-joe
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:03:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
To: Under a Glass Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: That's Amore.
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980303120038.29301C-100000@peach.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Matt remarked:
> "When the Moon hits you in the eye like a bigga pizza pie...that hurtsa
> lika hell...."
..and when you swim inna da sea, and an eel bites-a you knee....that's a
moray...
feeling weird,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- satriani@negia.net (work), carter@negia.net (personal)
Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
-- Berthold Auerbach
Currently playing: Joe Satriani -- "Time Machine"
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 12:04:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Plectronimus
Message-ID: <01IU88KMZJAU8ZE1ZO@alma.edu>
>and everything else, I was lead to believe it's all strictly
>alternate picking (Zero Economy picking).
I don't understand this part of the conversation. I definitely do the
economy picking thing; I pretty much always have, but how can you NOT do that
if the last pick stroke on one string goes in the same direction as the first
pick attack on the next string? For those of you who say you do strict
alternate picking, do you actually stop your arm or hand (whichever you pick
with) somehow between strings? Like if you're just playing a standard mode
shape up and down the scale with three notes to a string, or any odd number of
notes to a string (assumming you keep moving in the same direction up or down
the strings), do you still not use one motion to go from one string to the
next? If so, how does that work? Does your hand just stop for a split second
between the strings?
I've logged a lot of fairly rigorous metronome time in my 3 1/2 years
of playing, so maybe that helps, but I have no problem maintaining an even
sounding articulation from note to note and from one string to the next when I
use this technique, which is one reason people have suggested that they don't
use it. I also do a lot of chromatic exercises with the metronome, obviously
with four notes to a string, so then I have to "run around the car" so to
speak, but if I tried to play a mode with "strict alternate picking" I honestly
wouldn't know how to do it. And yes, I can accurately play those modes about
15-20 bpm faster than I can accurately play a chromatic scale because of the
hand-motion economy factor, but I have always fancied that that was not a
limitation of my alternate picking technique but just an advantage to arranging
notes in such a way as to keep pick strokes going in the same direction. This
isn't always possible, obviously, but I'm wondering: no matter how good your
alternate picking technique is, shouldn't you always be able to play that much
faster when you can sweep from one string to the next? I'm not asking as a
challenge, I'm asking because I don't understand what you guys are talking
about when you say you don't do this.
Um, this looks pretty unoffensive, but since I'm responding to one of
Chris' posts I'll just point out that in no way is this intended to be a flame,
so if I offended you, SCREW OFF! or something.
-Clark
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:47 +0000
From: someone@prognosis.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: School or Lessons, or Home Study, or Osmosis...
Message-ID: <199803031734.JAA08214@odin.ax.com>
Hey dudes,
Here's my take: If you have buddies who have very good technique,
then you don't need lessons right away. The toughest thing in the
beginning is not memorization... it's getting your hands to do what
you want them to. I tried playing left handed to see how this
felt... to see if it could bring back that dexterity problem, so I
could remember what it was like... and it was a nightmare! Hahahah!
My Girlfriend was making fun of me! I picked like a retarded
chimpanzee.
School for guitar depends ENTIRELY on where you go. Generally,
outside of classical, you have to work on your technique on your own.
They won't tell you how to shred. There's no magic key you can get
to automatically make you shred. I think the rule is, if you have
friends who you can learn from, start with that... if you find a
good guitar teacher (don't just assume he knows how to play... do
some research) move on to that, and then if you plan to play
music for a living, at least TRY school, because you WILL NOT
master theory on your own. You won't MAKE yourself work with a
book until your eyes bleed... but getting a good grade may
motivate you to do so.
The benefit of school over lessons is that you usually get a more
thorough education. I think Calvin made an awfully dangerous
generalization when he knocked guitarists teaching theory... at a
UNIVERSITY (not at MI, or AIM or schools based on practical playing)
most of the guitar teachers are qualified to teach you theory. Here
at NIU, we have Fareed Haque (http://www.fareed.com) who is a master
jazz guitarist, as well as an award winning master classical
guitarist (and he's played with everyone... he's on Sting's Soul
Cages, for God's sake)... he's at least as schooled a musician as
anyone I can think of. It doesn't matter what instrument your theory
teacher specializes in, as long as he or she has an understanding of
how it should be taught.
"Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass."
- Dennis Miller
Chris Ptacek
someone@prognosis.com
http://www.prognosis.com/madsman
Go Home and Practice!
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 12:53:31 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: School or Lessons, or Home Study, or Osmosis...
Message-ID: <199803031753.MAA17532@ren.cs.wm.edu>
> My Girlfriend was making fun of me! I picked like a retarded
> chimpanzee.
This introduced a whole host of mental images that I did not need right after
lunch. Thanks, Chris. :)
-d
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 12:55:04 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Drummers instrument thread
Message-ID: <199803031755.MAA17548@ren.cs.wm.edu>
So, do you live *in* Richmond, or (hopefully :) somewhere between there and
Williamsburg? I've been looking for a drummer down here. If you don't live
prohibitively far away, we should try getting together sometime.
-Chris
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:06:33 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Drummers instrument thread
Message-ID: <199803031806.NAA17623@ren.cs.wm.edu>
>
> So, do you live *in* Richmond, or (hopefully :) somewhere between there and
> Williamsburg? I've been looking for a drummer down here. If you don't live
> prohibitively far away, we should try getting together sometime.
As Keith Olbermann would say, "Geh!" Well, I think everyone's allowed one accidental private mail posted to the Jam. :)
-d
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:18:28 -0500
From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Guitars and Shredding...
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=AMSC%l=AMSC_NTAS-980303181828Z-3881@amsc_ntas.amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
>>by the way...is there anybody out there besides me who
>>does NOT play an ibanez guitar?
>I don't, I play a Charvel guitar, I bought it used so I don't know the
>exact model, but it's black (what else) and has one active humbucker and
>two passive singlecoils... And, as I mentioned in my JP clinic review, it's
>signed by John Petrucci :=)
>
I believe I play in the only unsigned heavy metal band left on the
planet that has no members that play Ibanez. We do, however, play
Jackson (Matt), Zion (Me), and Warwick (Dan). We ruin it, however, by
having a drummer that plays Tama (Hoshino, same parent company as
Ibanez, I believe.) I personally have owned several RG series guitars,
and sold all of them. I also recently got to play a Universe for a
couple of days, and while the seven strings were no problem - a little
weird, but quite playable - the pickups sounded like crap, and the build
quality was awful for a $1500 guitar, seven string or not. I always
found it interesting that almost none of Ibanez's endorsers play one of
their standard models - they either have their own model, or have
something built for them.
Not that I'm knocking the guitars - they're pretty good, for the money,
I just don't like them.
Now to subject jump a bit -
As far as pure "shredding" goes, I generally find it boring. Michael
Angelo puts me to sleep, as does Impalitteri. Michael Romeo actually
comes dangerously close, at times, but I like his riffs a lot more than
the other two. In terms of absolute ripping, Neil ZaZa was the most
impressive guy I've ever seen - he'd do sweeps where he was flipping his
hand over the neck, alternating back and forth, and hitting them
cleanly. It looked great, but it sounded like a guy ripping arpeggios.
Yawn.
Dunlop Jazz III's seem to be the pick of choice. I personally can't
stand the damn things - I use the regular Dunlop Tortex 1.00mm's. They
work a lot better for me, despite the increased mass, because I pick
REALLY hard. I also think it's interesting that Yngwie uses what are
essentially Fender mediums. I guess it's whatever makes you comfortable,
but I like a little "give" in the pick. Then again, I'm not exactly a
shred player anymore - Division doesn't require it, and it took a lot a
practicing for me to keep my chops at that level. I'm just lazy, I
guess. :)
For some slight DT content, the NoVA/MD types will probably like to know
that DT is supposed to come back to Jaxx at some point, dates as yet
unconfirmed. While it may be small, the sound certainly makes it worth
dealing with the crowd...
Mike
Division - Playing with (gulp) Saxon on the 13th. Yes, I thought they
were dead, too... :)
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:21:20 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3602
Message-ID: <386a1970.34fc4a22@aol.com>
<< Hell, use the dash, shifter, window, mirror, ...person in passenger seat
works GREAT for a china cymbol !! :)
Tip: keep an unsharpened pencil handy for car drumming !!! Eraser end
works great !!
Zildjian >>
when i had a girlfriend i used to use her head for a ride, usually used a
straw for the right and drum stick too... hmm.. i wonder why she left me..
Rocky
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:39:27 -0500
From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Phalling Into Infinity
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980303133927.0073e8c0@pop.wam.umd.edu>
> P.S : Am I the only synth player in da list ?!?! I see lots of guitar
> players, but no one writes about keyboards... :(
It has something to do with the bizarre phallic-connections of guitar and
guitarist. More competition, insecurity, whatever you want to call it...
All in jest, good folk.
Brian "Keyboardist Without A Keyboard" Henderson
===========================
Name:
W. Brian Henderson, Esq.
Contact:
hender@wam.umd.edu
ROBOT-CENTRAL:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/
===========================
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 14:00:30 -0500
From: Chris Bowsman <cbowsma@pop3.utoledo.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Big Wreck
Message-ID: <34FC534E.9883E253@pop3.utoledo.edu>
What the fuck is up with bashing Big Wreck? I can understand being
pissed off that a dj was blasting Dream Theater, but I have to say that
Big Wreck is a great fucking band.
By the way....any Mr. Bungle fans out there?
chris
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:58:30 PST
From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: drums, assorted stuff.Some DTC.
Message-ID: <19980303185833.29274.qmail@hotmail.com>
>I play Pearl Export drums and Sabian cymbals exclusively. Promark 2B
>sticks, DW pedals and Gibraltar rack and hardware.
>Come on drummers sound off!! That is what we do best isn't it?
I play Tama and Mapex drums.8" 10" 12" and 14" toms and a 22" bass
drum.Series is rockstar DX.My snare is a 7x14 Maple Deluxe by Mapex.Got
it used by 200$.It was only a year old and in excellent condition.My
cymbals are by Sabian. 8" AAX Splash 10" AAX Splash 17"AAX Stage Crash
18"AA Medium Thin Crash 18"Hand Hammered China and a 20" Hand Hammered
Rock Ride.I also use a Pearl p202-double pedal an LP tambourine and Vic
Firth Sticks.I think my next purchase will be octobans(high set).
DT is playing in Finland tomorrow!!!I can´t wait for my first ever DT
live experience!I´m mildly pissed off because couldn´t make it to
Petrucci´s and Portnoy´s clinics.Oh well...Hoping to see many fellow
jammers there.I´ll be wearing black jeans and an Awake-T shirt.Just look
me up in the front row. :-)
Feeling happy, -Vilzu-
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:00:39 -0300
From: "Daniel Alexandre Bonatti" <dbonatti@sti.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Candlebox
Message-ID: <199803031901.QAA29233@blake.sti.com.br>
What happened to Candlebox? Their first CD "Candlebox" rocks!!! High
quality stuff!!!
Dan
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:07:31 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: CYNIC
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980303170219.7717B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Joe Marshaleck wrote:
> does anyone out there like CYNIC? i am really in to them. I am
> wondering if and when a new album will be coming out. Please let me
> know.
I have the only and last album of theirs (meaning that they've
disbanded long ago) and I really can't get past those electronic vocals.
The music is interesting, but if it consisted only of death metal
vocals/growls, I think that it would be much easier to digest.
Of course, many would tell me: "hey, if there were only death
growls, the album wouldn't be so unique blah, blah, blah"
Ha
Ha
Ha
I really think that the album has enough elements to be unique
without those annoying roboto vocals.
Since I know nothing about music technique or theory, I can, at
most, summarize my opinions basically to "thumbs up" or "thumbs down".
Despite the vocals, this album is "thumbs up".
> -joe
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:13:27 -0500 (EST) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Candlebox Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980303140946.1751A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
heh, I can't believe I'm actually replying to this, but I kinda agree with him. Candlebox was definitely a decent band. Unfortunately, they hit the classic spell that has befallen alot of groups that do well with an album. They released a second album, called "Lucy", which was also very good (not as good a the first), released one single off of it, which did nothing, and basically fell off the face of the earth, as far as I know. A shame, because they were a good band, too.....apparently, though, they were not very good live, and the singer sucked live (forgetting lyrics and shtuff like that..........)
-Al
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Daniel Alexandre Bonatti wrote:
> > What happened to Candlebox? Their first CD "Candlebox" rocks!!! High > quality stuff!!! > > Dan >
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:20:14 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Desobe <edesobe@emory.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Joe Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.3.95.980303141805.-376205C-100000@edesobe.resnet.emory.edu>
Kicks ass. Oh man, by far his best effort. Very intelligent piece of musicianship. Stu and Jeff are excellent as well, the synergy is there. Also, the packaging is smooth and incredibly professional. Joe may in fact be the coolest guy on the (crystal) planet right now. Go check it out. Take the time.
-Eric
ps there are little riffs from old songs (esp. from Time Machine) all over this thing which makes experience even better for the hardcore fans
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Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:38:42 -0500 (EST) From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Magna Carta Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980303143754.5125G-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
I was told that Magna Carta CDS were distributed in my local record shop, Vintage Vinyl in Fords, NJ, if anybody goes there. I haven't found much. I know Tower holds them, Tower holds everything. But, unless you live in the city, you're not near a Tower.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com Keyboards, vocals, musical slut I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980
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