YTSEJAM Digest 3617
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3616
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
2) Re: He started it
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
3) Re: DT gig in HellSinCity, Finland
by "Toni Maki" <tonimaki@dlc.fi>
4) Marshalls... NDTC
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
5) Frauenquote...
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@MAILA.WM.EDU>
6) Power of the Night
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
7) Chris vs Chris. ;)
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
8) NYC radio
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
9) Mr. So & So
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
10) New QR Guitarist (ANDTC)
by marshallm@juno.com (Mike Marshall)
11) Easy Peasey II
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
12) md/dc area proggers
by Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3616
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3615
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
15) Guitar (vibrato)
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
16) Stuff
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3615
by Loren <lcaler@flash.net>
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:13:59 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3616
Message-ID: <5955e26f.34ff1599@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-05 16:05:43 EST, Fabio wrote:
<< Rocky, you and I both. If you care to move to New Jersey, maye we can put
together a keyboard-only band and show those other musical fuckers who's
boss.
>>
yea that would be great, 2 keyboardist at the front of the stage, drummer in
the middle, guitarist, bassist and singer in the back. singer offstage
ofcourse, and turned down till he can barely be heard. =]
Rocky
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:22:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: He started it
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980305161513.6980A-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
dude, you really need to relax. How about we extend our statements to the
fact that all really talented people have a right to be bitter. Guitarists
included. But the bottom line is, even in the 80s, where talent was more
prevalent, where keyboards were revolutionary tools, things were the same
way. the organ player from the Wallflowers doesn't have a name, but I'll
bet everybody knows who the guitarist is, or the singer. Bassists and
drummers fall prey to this as well. From Rock's inception, everybody has
glorified the guitar as the instrument of choice, but the instruments that
make up the guts of rock, vocals, bass, drums, and sometimes, keys, are
virtually ignored. How many songs about basses have ever been written.
PianoMan is the only keyboard song I know of, and Bang on the Drum all
Day is the only drum song I can think of. Guitar virtuosos abound like
Vai, and Satch, but keyboardists in the same vein are nonexistant. We have
Jordan Rudess, and maybe Keith Emerson, but Greg lake, the guitarist was
the fron man in the band. I have never seen a band where there is a
keyboard version of Satch just going to town. I am not downing guitarists,
I love guitar as an instrument. I think Satch and Vai are credits to the
instrument. But the guitar is an oversaturated field, mostly taken up by
dicks who don't appreciate the music and just want to be the next Nirvana,
Samshing Pumpkins, or Green Day. I mean, ever hear that acoustic Green Day
song, the guy fucks he intro up three times and when he gets it right, it
sounds like a basic strumming pattern. What a fucking idiot. And for the
record, if you think I respect rap and r&b due to its heavy keyboard
content, just think of green Day on keys and samplers and drum machines.
Half of that stuff isn't even original. i have more respect for hack
guitarists than that r&b stuff. Yes, it's all keyboards, but nothing of
any substance. So, keyboard players in rock are forced to do chords,
guitarists are forced to sacrifice their technique. We're all in the same
boat. I don't think I am higher than you, i hardly know you, I never heard
you play. I know I am etter than Green Day, or half, no most of the bands
on the radio today, talentwise. the onoly band I remotely respect is Tool,
because they have somehow managed to have complicated, or semicomplicated
music and get away with it. Sound Garden was another band that did it.
Pearl Jam had a few good albums, but mostly suck now. I don't limit myself
to prog, either.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com Keyboards, vocals, musical slut I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980------------------------------
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:34:57 +0200 From: "Toni Maki" <tonimaki@dlc.fi> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: DT gig in HellSinCity, Finland Message-ID: <199803052135.XAA29477@elf.dlc.fi>
>But on to DT!What could I say?Phenomenal?MInd Blowing?Definitely!!!
Right on!! That was definitely the best gig I've ever seen! I had exellen= t time and it seems to me that the guys themselves were having fun too. I was at the frontrow almost all the time, so I could see the band=20 clearly. During one song (can't remember which one) Mike threw=20 drumsticks to Derek who tried to catch them. When he finally caught one Mike continued to play with one stick untill Derek (unsuccessfully)=20 tried to throw one back. When James sing that Supertramp song I was a little disturbed by all the people who were clapping their hands together. It's not a big dea= l but I think they were out of synch. It doesn't really matter because James managed to sing it through without any fuckups but it would've been better without clapping anyway.
>During the drumsolo I experienced the climax of my musical career. >I got to play a tom with Mike Portnoy.I guess that air-drumming=20 >payed off! :-) And what=B4s more, Mike was impressed about my=20 >playing!(to finnish jammers,I was the second guy who played,=20 >not the first one.)
Yeah. You fought hard and well but Mike got you at the end ;) To me the ultimate highlight of the gig was to see John Myung play live! He was sooo much better than I had ever imagined. I especially liked the "little tapping parts" he did at LITS and Metropolis but my jaw hit the floor when I saw him playing the Darkest of Winters. Petrucci's guitar solo was also astounding. I unfortunately had to=20 leave the front during the solo because my friend fainted (!!) and I had to go to check that he was ok :( Luckily he had no problems=20 after that.
The end of the show was also very funny. After they had finished Metropolis/LtL/Crimson Sunset/Fortune in lies they gave their instruments to some members of the roadcrew who started to play MetallicA's One while Mike was singing ("Darkness=20 imprisoning me, all that I see..." and so on).
The only bad thing I can think of (besides this fainting) is that=20 now when I've seen them live I can't wait to hear more.
Toni
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:41:15 -0500 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Marshalls... NDTC Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=AMSC%l=AMSC_NTAS-980305214115Z-2801@amsc_ntas.amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
CalvinS6 wrote...
>I played one at the LA NAMM show in the Marshall booth, with a Marshall tech >messing with it. It sounded like the worst excuse for a new line of amps I >have ever heard in my life. The tone was awful. No balls, no chunk. And >that's where its at. I mean if I can't get it to sound good with a Marshall >guy trying to help out, imagine the one you will buy at a store. > >However, I have also played a 30th Aniversary (combo not head) that sounded >horrible also and I keep hearing how good these are. I would say the JCM >2000 >I played might have been a bad amp in a good line, but at Marshall's own >booth? On the other hand, I plugged into a Marshall JMP-1 right after, and >it >was incredible.
Thus supporting my theory that the JMP-1 is the only decent product Marshall makes. I've never heard a JCM head sound good without modification - ever. The JMP-1, however, is the second - best sounding MIDI preamp out there - only the mighty TriAx sounds better for raw crunch, and it not too far ahead. The JMP's clean tones are pretty good, too. I should know - I've been using one for over two years now.
Of course, that's also because I can't afford a TriAx, but I'm happy with my tone - the TriAx is just more flexible. If you're buying a head, rather than a preamp, do yourself a favor - BUY A BOOGIE.
Mike Division - Yes, we're playing with Saxon on the 13th. No, I don't know how old they are... >
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:01:49 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@MAILA.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Frauenquote... Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980305170149.006c8f5c@maila.wm.edu>
Another Alex had:
>Wir haben die Frauenquote,=20 >wir haben Frauenbeauftragte,=20 >wir haben Frauenparkpl=E4tze,=20 >aber wann gibt es endlich >"STRASSEN F=DCR FRAUEN"???
Rock ON!! (yeah yeah, I know not all of you understand this). I think that it got a bit much starting with the parking spots...but hey!
the other, Alex
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:04:26 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Power of the Night Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980305170425.006c6c0c@maila.wm.edu>
Matt, "Heavy Metal at The Mining Company" wrote:
>The official Savatage site (http://www.savatage.com) has the lyrics for all >their albums. Lyrics for Power Of The Night can be found at >http://www.savatage.com/potn/potn_lyric.shtml. I agree, excellent album, >and one to often overlooked by Sava-fans. Produced by the legendary Max >Norman (Ozzy, Megadeth), this is Savatage's heaviest, most aggressive album >IMHO. Metal through and through.
>Catch Ya Later, >Matt
Ironically, this is the first one I got after Dead Winter Dead. I agree, it's an awesome album. Although it sort of fell into my hands by chance. DEFINITELY hard and heavy. Very cool stuff. I recommend it.
Alex
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:09 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Chris vs Chris. ;) Message-ID: <01BD4842.D77CBE80.aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
Ptacek sed:
> You are on such a crack high, dude! :) How common do you think >this is? Do you think that the rest of the guitarists just overslept >on the day that they were handing out record deals and bimbos? You >have a similar chance at winning the lottery as you do to get one of >those fantasy "Hanson/Green Day" record contracts. And if you have >been out of the loop, the big sellers these days are R&B artists and >cheesy rap tunes, which are devoid of guitar, but somehow magically >all have keys in one form or another.
Actually, my keyboard and guitarist quotes were a mushing together of lots of stuff I read back before I discovered prog (pre 93) and the sense was then within the same band these two extremes happened. The guitarist who knew nothing lead the band, while the keyboardist who had studied forever was allowed no creative input. This only applies to the mainstream rock world as it existed then, when I last cared about it. Since discovering prog, I've come to see that there is an outlet for the type of music I've always wanted to play and hear, but there is still a great deal of anti-keyboard bias in the rock world. How many times have I turned on the radio and heard a "guitar god weekend marathon"? Countless. How many times have they had a "keyboard god marathon"? -- zero. (I live in an area that actually has three (!!!) rock radio stations that I can tune into.)
I'm not trying to say anything bad about guitarists in general, and I have nothing but respect for prog guitarists and the people on this list. I made one generalization, which is that more guitarists are self taught than keyboardists, percentage-wise. I should have been more clear by stating "in the rock music arena" I left out techno/dance stuff because I can't stand it, and tend to live my life as if it doesn't exist as a musioc form . :)
I like Rock, and always have. My dad plays guitar, and road trips in the car were filled with Van Halen Dire Straits and such. Like a lot of kids, I had the dream of one day becoming a "rock star" -- but, I eventually realized that there was ZERO chance of me doing that as a keyboard player. If I practiced a lot, wrked my ass off, I might be an "also featuring" or the anonymous guy backstage playing at a concert, but I'd never get any recognition. And yeah, I'm probably still a bit bitter at that. But I'm not bitter at guitarists. I didn't mean to imply that. I'm bitter ar the public perception and ignorant tastes that makes keys seem a "wimpy" instrument. I even remember when Kevin left DT, some people on the list actually said "replace him with another guitarist! DT would be better without keys!" -- wouldn't that make someone bitter? To be told that their instrument of choice is not only unnecessary, but actually degrades the band that they're in by their presence? Count the number of bands who claim that they would never use a keyboardist cause it would compromise the "heaviness" of their sound. Doesn't that seem like an awful bias? I mean, how many rock groups don't have a guitarist? ELP ... any others ... ? Would Van Halen have gone anywhere had Eddie decided when he gave up drums that he would play keys instead of guitar? Look at all the "Power Trio" bands -- Bass, Guitar and Drums. Why is this? How many "guitarist" magazines are there? How many "keyboardist" magazines?
Wow, this is coming off as whiny. I intended it to be thought-provoking. Probably has to do with the fact that I'm preaching the glory of Keyboards to a group who already knows that they are a Good Thing (tm) -- but there really is a bias against 'boards in the Rock world. And there's not really anything that we as musiciand can (or should) do -- except that if you're in a band without a keyboardist, damn it, get one! ;)
Last big post from me. I promise not to do this on this thread again.
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:25:47 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NYC radio Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980305172546.006a55a8@maila.wm.edu>
Somebody recommended a bunch of radio stations coming out from Jersey.. don't know if I'll be able to get them in my corner, but I'll try. I'm hurting for some good radio up there, and am going home for spring break tomorrow, so this is perfect timing. In other news -
>Don't forget WSOU, Seton Hall Radio, out of South Orange > 89.5 FM......they play some good stuff as well, a mix of > old and new, though they tend to concentrate more on harder > stuff..........I remember them playing the LaTM version of > Under a Glass Moon before one of the Home for the Holiday > shows at the Birch Hill.........
Hey, that's the Seton Hall pirate station!! I found them by accident one day (due to the poor quality of radio, I hardly ever "surf" it) and they kick ass! They definitely concentrate on the heavier end of the spectrum. THIS IS A GOOD THING!! If they played DT, I will DEFINITELY continue to listen to them. They played Type O Negative..how often does that happen? - and that made them no. 1 in my book!
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:47:28 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: YtseJelly <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mr. So & So Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980305174128.3171C-100000@galileo.cris.com>
Chris Merlo kindly posted the URL to the Official Mr. So & So Web Site on the Spock's Beard mailing list "Thoughts", and I like to think the few of you on here who actually have good taste in music also like Mr. So & So. :)
http://www.mrsoandso.u-net.com
It's nice to know such a good band hasn't passed away. Thanks Chris, and once again thanks to Aaron "DJ Kuul A" Silverman for telling me about this band in the first place.
Rick Audet
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:24:00 -0600 From: marshallm@juno.com (Mike Marshall) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New QR Guitarist (ANDTC) Message-ID: <19980305.172408.13222.1.marshallm@juno.com>
Not trying to start the rumor mill or anything. Was talking to some friends about QR ('Ryche, that is), their new guitarist, who would be great, stuff like that.
I put forth this idea: What if QR's new "guitarist" was...
KevMo
I guess it wouldn't be quite Kev's line of interest. I mean, he did leave DT for some reason, and to go to a band of musical importance like QR would seem like getting into the same old thing...
But listening to Kev's demos, his stuff leans more toward 'Ryche than it does DT. It's not a complete match, just similar on occasions.
I think it would be really cool to hear SDV sung by Tate. Maybe put a little more emotion and dynamics into it. LaBrie on Awake sounds detached, just Like Kev did in the demo...maybe that's what they were going for, like on TAMP.
The Wilton/Moore combination for leads would be fantastic. It would make some of the older songs strange though.
Well sirs, what do you think?
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:43:08 -0500 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Easy Peasey II Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980305184308.00734824@pop.wam.umd.edu>
I revoke my opinion on the noseflute being the easiest instrument. In truth, the *real* easiest-instrument would have to be the tambourine, you know the thing the singer or a band member's girlfriend bangs on while the rest of the band is playing instruments. DT would work really well with more tambourine, methinks. Not only would it give James something to do during the instrumental bits, but a Motownesque groove would work wonders on tunes like, say, "Metropolis".
Brian "Berry Gordy" Henderson
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:50:53 -0500 From: Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: md/dc area proggers Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980305185053.00706c18@pop.gl.umbc.edu>
Any of you MD/DC area proggers with pent up frustrations that are looking to get into a band should shoot me a message. Steve Z (vocals/keys) and myself (drums/keys) are currently involved in a project but we'll definitely be looking to start up another group sometime in the future.
Speaking of "our project". The two of us and another non-ytse prog fan (guitarist) are currently working on an album (since January). We've been playing together for about 6 years but this is the first time we've ever really committed to something seriously. We hope to have a couple of songs completed and recorded by later summer or early fall. I'm sure all you guys and gals will be anxious to hear it and buy multiple copies. ;) We'll be producing some CD's and establishing a web site to provide ordering info, bios, soundclips, and other crap. We have one song nearing completion and it's about 8 minutes long at the moment. Right up your collective alleys! :)
I'll definitely keep y'all posted!
-- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ / / L. Jason Hartman "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend \ \ lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu And I'll never be open again / / And I'll have no more dreams to defend \ \ Univ. Of Maryland, And I'll never be open again " / / Baltimore County - Kevin Moore : Dream Theater \ \ / / "Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot." \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:16:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3616 Message-ID: <19980306001629.7567.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>
> Hahahaha! Welcome...TO PLANET MADSMAN! > > ~Eckie takes no prisoners >
hehehe, is that gonna be the title for your debut cd, Chris?
Ern
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:18:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3615 Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980305152609.136918B-100000@elk.uvm.edu>
On Thu, 5 Mar 1998 ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > I nearly cried after hearing the REAL TAMP. How could Mr. Shirley take > > that song and utterly destroy it? I mean, I could see it if he changed > > a couple of things here and there, but he ripped it APART! It's not > > even the same song. > > 2. Dream Theater seems very happy with Kevin Shirley's work on FII. > Just check out some interviews. Not one bad word about Kevin in > any of them. David Prater on the other hand...
In regards to TAMP, I remember reading an interview where James said that in his opinion (possibly the band's as well, not sure) that song is the exception. He said that he was not too happy with his vocals. Something about how he wanted to put more emotion in to the song in keeping with the subject matter, but Kevin suggested he deliver it as somebody who has been numbed by the pain of losing someone. Also, I remember reading in an another interview that Kevin felt that the demo version was too much of a "cliched" power ballad. Personally, although I don't have the demo version I DO have the version performed at the Fix '96 shows, so if the two are anything alike I have to agree that Kevin's input totally destroyed what could have been one of my favorite DT songs. But other than that, the band seems pretty happy with Kevin, as am I. I agree that all too often people are quick to blame the producer for a change in direction that they don't like. It decision could have been made by the label or maybe, just maybe the band itself wanted to change. Nah, nevermind....too radical.
Richie
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:39:13 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Guitar (vibrato) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980305163811.19296C-100000@otter.mbay.net>
Can someone tell me how to develop really awesome vibrato, like Greg Hough or Malnsteen? JP's isn't that bad either when he's consintrating on it. Be well. Matt B
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:04 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980305181151.7212A-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
-----------------------==[ Cover My Ears ]==---------------------------
Loren <lcaler@flash.net> wrote: > how could they leave [out] songs like STM, TWiUTB, and CME???
Could be because Cover my Eyes sucks. :)
---------------------==[ New 'SuperGroup' ]==---------------------------
I heard a rumor that Mike Portnoy from Liquid Tension Experiment, John Petrucci from Age of Impact, and Derek Sherinian and John Myung of Platypus will be joining up with ex-Winter Rose vocalist James LaBrie to form a progressive metal band. More on this as it develops...
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o / | Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design | | gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:47:02 -0600 (CST) From: Loren <lcaler@flash.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3615 Message-ID: <199803060147.TAA17108@endeavor.flash.net>
> 1. Do you really think Dream Theater has this little to say about > what goes on with their work ? It's always easy to blame the > producer, rather than to face up to the fact that your favourite > band just made some musical decisions you don't agree with.
Well actually, I personally feel that is was more like: "Well guys, I'm Kevin Shirley, and in order for you to sell more records you are going to have to do this and this to this song, and this and this to that song etc. Now, I'm not complaining about doing that to sell more albums. I'm all for it, I'm just pissed that the songs HAD to be butchered in order to acheive this goal. Oh well...
> 2. Dream Theater seems very happy with Kevin Shirley's work on FII. > Just check out some interviews. Not one bad word about Kevin in > any of them. David Prater on the other hand...
I'd be happy too about selling more albums.
> 3. They let Kevin Shirley mix "Liquid Tension Experiment" too. > That should tell you something, shouldn't it ?
There is a difference between "mix" and "produce".
> Well, after 78:18 minutes they kinda ran out of space on the CD.
What I meant was I would prefer other particualr songs on the album instead of some of the ones they choose (sorry, the one's Kevin probably "recommended")
> Shit happens. :-)
It sure does! :)
>> I think STM is one of the best songs out of the FII sessions. > Didn't do much for me.
Sorry, ;)
-Loren
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