YTSEJAM Digest 3633
Today's Topics:
1) Portnoy's profile
by Derfelt <Derfelt@aol.com>
2) Re: H
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
3) LTE
by Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3631
by Andrew Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
5) Re: Oh So Agrivating! Please Help!
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
6) Where to get Prog Cd's
by "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
7) LTE / Symphony X / oops!
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
8) Now Hear This, Mike Portnoy...
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
9) Info From MP
by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
10) South American Tour?
by Ivan Carvajal <usnavi@rocketmail.com>
11) Hello
by MIKULIMW@saber.udayton.edu
12) Future price outlook for Prism Records CDs?
by Dan Senko <dwsenko@us.ibm.com>
13) Laser's Edge: Availability - Symphony X releases
by Dan Senko <dwsenko@us.ibm.com>
14) Travellin Man
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
15) vanderbilt jan 4th
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
16) JP - Necronomicon
by Tom Baddley <tbaddley@ontheair.com>
17) RE: Bad Trader
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
18) LTE, etc
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
19) LTE / PC MIDI Setup
by "Neil Evans" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:01:10 EST
From: Derfelt <Derfelt@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Portnoy's profile
Message-ID: <8f4f3db.350709ab@aol.com>
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Using my AOL account here to send this to y'all.. (I'm Craig Griffith,
derfelt@usa.net on the 'jam)
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Member Name:=09Mike Portnoy (the real one)
Location:=09New York
Birthdate:=094/20/67
Sex:=09Male
Marital Status:=09Beautiful wife Marlene
Hobbies:=09Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment
Computers:=09often but not very well
Occupation:=09Melody's daddy
Personal Quote:=09Carpe Diem
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:09:24 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: H
Message-ID: <f4a8f801.35070b97@aol.com>
what the hell was the point of this post??
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:11:47 -0500
From: Gary Davis <artshop@artist-shop.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LTE
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980311221147.00c14714@artist-shop.com>
Hello Friends:
For all you folks out there having a terrible time getting LTE, I did get in
a shipment this week for The Artist Shop and will continue to restock it to
meet whatever the demand may be. I predict it will be a big one, especially
when those who get theirs start posting reviews. This is one damn good album!
You'll find LTE in The Artist Shop at <http://www.artist-shop.com/magna>.
Ordering instructions are at <http://www.artist-shop.com/order.htm>.
Gary
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The Artist Shop The Other Road
http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com
phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923
SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!!
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Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 14:20:02 -0800
From: Andrew Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: "A daily dose of Ytsejam..." <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3631
Message-ID: <199803112218.OAA05667@network-services.uoregon.edu>
>drums (The Lonely bears, Bozzio Levin Brothers); John Petrucci and Steve
>Hoey (Yes)
^^^^
Steve Hoey? *Shiver* I can't wait to hear his acoustic medley at the next
Yes concert:
Leaves of Green
Wipeout
Mood for a Day
Low Rider
Clap
BTW, the guitarist's name is Steve Howe...not Hoey. Sorry for the
rambling Yesified post. Hope a few people found it mildly entertaining.
BTW...this is not a flame.
Andrew
+-------------------------------------------+
Andrew Embler - aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~aembler/
+-------------------------------------------+
Random Frank Zappa Quote:
"It would be easier to pay off the national debt overnight than to
neutralize the long-range effects of our national stupidity."
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:32:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Oh So Agrivating! Please Help!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980311162724.780A-100000@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Paul Gregory Humm wrote:
> I recommend the Laser's Edge. You can find them on the web at
> http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd/. I have ordered from them before,
<snip>
> I know they have Superior's "Behind" for $12, and that they have
> several Symphony X CD's (not sure if they have the new one yet --
> send them an e-mail if they don't have it listed). If you order a
> Symphony X disc from them, be sure to inquire about the price. The
> last time I checked, the Symphony X prices had not been updated on
> the web page, so the actual prices were significantly lower than the
> listed prices. I'm not sure if they have Enchant's "Time Lost". Hope
> this helps.
I just got Superior's "Behind" and Symphony X's tDWoT from Laser's Edge
(along with 8 other CDs). I sent my check in on Friday and got the CDs
a week and a day later in the mail. And I got a credit slip for the CDs I
ordered that they didn't have (I should have reserved) plus $4 for the
Symphony X album. So I guess the price (at least for tDWoT) is $15 rather
than $19 like the web page says/said. So buy from Laser's Edge. :)
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| Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away |
| rctaylor@uiuc.edu Almost as if it cannot be saved |
| The Phoenix Will we be able to rise |
| From these ashes we've sown |
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:19:09 -0600
From: "Juan Fco. Quintero" <jfquintero@sysop.com.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Where to get Prog Cd's
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980311171904.0069c41c@sysop.com.mx>
Hi there:
This information will be helpful for many people. Recently I got my
Superior Cd and Enchant's "Time Lost" from Knights of the Round, (it only
took two weeks since they ship the package, and keep in mind that I live in
Mexico):
http://www.knightsoftheround.com
Laser's Edge
They don't have Enchant's Time Lost, but they have a nice catalog of prog
rock and prog metal. Worth to check them out!.
http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd/.
M&M Music
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4500/
They are specialized in progressive music. They have all the Magna Carta
catalog but I don't know if they have the new CD LTE. Also they have
Threshold's Cd's. I have ordered several times from them and the average
time of delivery is 2-3 weeks.
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:34:54 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: LTE / Symphony X / oops!
Message-ID: <35071F9E.D2C6C822@ameritech.net>
First off, believe the hype: LTE is VERY GOOD. And oddly enough, I had
no trouble finding it: I called Borders to see if they had it, and they
did. Then, I happened to be walking by a Harmony House, and lo and
behold they had it!
Also, I got SX's "Divine Wings of Tragedy" and like it alot. But where
can I find their new CD, "Twilight On Olympus"?
Thirdly, I goofed and sent the following to the 'JAM, instead of another
mailing list. SORRY!
>White Wolf's Eternal Champion Volume 9: Kane of Old Mars
>is now out! (I got mine today at B. Dalton)
Damn, do I feel stupid!
- Joe D.
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:56:15 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Now Hear This, Mike Portnoy...
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980311165004.14427A-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
For those of you in the St. Louis or Columbia, MO areas, there is a used
CD / import / rare place called Now Hear This. I got LTE from there the
day it came out for $13, while the 12 local Best Buy stores were still
waiting for their combined 3 copies of the disc to come in. I bought two
copies (one for Irene), the guy had already sold 6 so far, and had 4 more
on reserve for other customers.
This is also the place where I picked up A Pleasant Shade of Gray the day
it came out, when no other place in the city (this is the Columbia one)
had it. If you have access to either of these stores (there may be more,
but these are the only two I know of), I highly recommend them. They even
had the Jap import of the Hollow Years single for $21.
As for everyone 'testing' Mike Portnoy to find out if it's really him,
don't bother the man, that *is* his address. There are alot of us that
have had it for a while, and I don't think Mike wants to be playing DT
Trivia for the next month just to prove his identity.
As for where the '420' comes from, April 20th is Mikes birthday, or
4/20... I don't think *any* of us are that obessed that we'd use his bday
in our email address. :)
Anyway, now that you're posting, Mike... What do you think of Yngwie? >:)
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
| Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design |
| gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:37:14 -0500
From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Info From MP
Message-ID: <603838AE6912D111A2B80000C07F4C9F01377C1C@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
Well, right before coming out of massive lurk mode, there are a couple of
things that Mike wanted known to the jam. I have been remiss in not
forwarding these to the jam in a timely fashion and while he is clear and
free about posting these things himself now, I will do what I should have
done earlier in the week and post these items as directed.
1) Medleys. Ugh. Well, MP made a compelling argument that while it would
be great for DT to play a five hour set every night (and being the monster
he is he actually stated that if it were up to him THEY WOULD :), it is
impractical for a band like DT to be able to do this night in and night out.
They, as a band, have concluded that a two hour set is what they will be
playing. Thus, to allow people who have not seen DT for a long time to hear
parts of their epic long songs, medleys are the only way to go. This is a
sensible approach and he wanted the jam to be better informed as to the
reasoning behind the decision.
>> I'm sure people in Finland (for a random example)
>> would rather hear bits of Learning To Live and A
>> Change of Seasons (both of which they never have
>> heard live) as opposed to NONE of them and a full
>> Metropolis, which they already have heard. (which
>> is what the alternative was..)
Mike also did say that if I perpetuate my distaste for medleys, that he
would personally perform a manual tracheotomy on me, soooooooo, I now
unequivocally say that I LOVE MEDLEYS !!
2) Christmas CD. Wow, ol' Warren really set me up for this one ....
bastard !! But being the decent person he is has let the other 99.46% of
the jam know that he was kidding when he abused my human rights on the jam
......
Anyhow, here is MP's unedited answer to why different material was not
available to be put on the Christmas CD:
>> Live tracks or unreleased songs
>> are not an option because Elektra owns the
>> rights to them and therefore we would not have
>> been able to give them away as gifts...
Later,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@comversens.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:38:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Ivan Carvajal <usnavi@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: South American Tour?
Message-ID: <19980311233835.4368.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com>
Hello to all the jammers here...
Since this is my first appearance in this list I will
get right into the point. Does anyone knows if DT is
planning... or maybe thinking of a south american
tour?(this question I wanna personally ask to THE
REAL MIKE PORTNOY) I mean, these guys are so
excellent musicians, so profesional and talented, and
first of all, they have gained a lot of fans these
years, specially with the falling into infinity and
the IAW... but then again ... the never come.. and we
will be here waiting for them as long as they keep on
with their music.
IVAN CARVAJAL
Barranquilla. Colombia
P.S: so much for peruvian skies, uh?
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:44:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: MIKULIMW@saber.udayton.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hello
Message-ID: <01IUJVIIEIFM0029GX@saber.udayton.edu>
hey,
been subscribed to the jam for a while, but finally decided to post.
Anyway, just got LTE, and all I can say is- uh, whoa... Pretty kick-ass
stuff.
How about the ending of Universal Mind? That totally threw me for a
loop...
Later
Mark
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:19:11 -0500
From: Dan Senko <dwsenko@us.ibm.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Future price outlook for Prism Records CDs?
Message-ID: <5040200012695177000002L072*@MHS>
While doing some 'jam cleanup on my hard drive, I came across a long post
on Kai selling $10 CD-Rs with the following from Mr Bahr:
>but you'll quickly find yourself with no time
>for it. You'll either have to hike prices to keep afloat financially, or
>your backlogs will make mine look like a wait at McDonalds, or you'll
>have to cut corners everywhere. The possible positive outcome is that if
>you last until fall, CDR media's price should put you in a good position
>to maintain your low price. I myself plan to have things at $13 or below
>by October, including color liners and color images on the discs
>themselves.
Mike, I realize that you had to increase your prices back to $20 (from $17) in
large
part to your printer experiences and ink gobbling for color images on the discs.
I'm not flaming you (and will be ordering another CD soon anyway) but I'm in
the crowd
that would love to see you hit your aforementioned $13 target even if I don't
get the
color image on disc. I'm in the "show me the music" crowd and can do without
more expensive color liners and images. But ... to each his own.
DF Mo
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:19:04 -0500
From: Dan Senko <dwsenko@us.ibm.com>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Laser's Edge: Availability - Symphony X releases
Message-ID: <5040200012695174000002L042*@MHS>
Here's the response I received today - note that I already bought DWoT
from Laser's Edge so I didn't ask about that availability but I bet they have
it.
Yes, the new and improved price for Symphony X CDs is $15, down from $19.
Also Superior/Behind for $12 - a bargain for that excellent CD!
]From: LASERCD@aol.com
http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd/
Dan:
Damnation Game is $15 and in stock. Twilight In Olympus will not be released
in Germany until March 23rd. I should have it around then. It will be $15
also - no preorders but I'll have tons in stock.
Complete website makeover in the next two weeks.
-Ken
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:21:15 -0500
From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Travellin Man
Message-ID: <3507469B.985@seacoast.com>
>I have to ask you a suggestion...
>I'm an Italian Jammer from Catania, Sicily...
>Well, there'll be a concert in Pordenone April 2nd... I should make a >trip
>of 1300 Km to see them... What should I do ? Do you think doing such a >trip
>is worth it ? DT are my fav band, but how about spending 280 $ to watch >them
>live ?
>Tell me what do You SuperJammers think 'bout this...
>Thanx a lot ...
A small price to pay!!
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:40:25 -0500 (EST)
From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: vanderbilt jan 4th
Message-ID: <01IUJZGHL7K200099O@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Date sent: 11-MAR-1998 21:35:01
>"What was being thrown around at the January 4th show at the Vandi in
>Plainveiw. I caught some of it, but I was wondering if you could tell me
>that. I also heard that you started it, is that true? Let us know, we are
That was a vegetable salad. *Was* is the operative word, as it
went airborne... I think the Big Wreck drummer started it, I didn't see
mike there and I was right in front but maybe it was his doing. I also
caught a few pieces. What the hell was I thinking? "Yes! A hunk of
funky radish! Oh yeah. Oh yeahhhhhh!"
Anyway, I saw cauliflower and brocolli, so I think it was one of those
crappy raw veggie salads you can get. I don't. But you could.
josh
............................................................
Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:45:56 -0700
From: Tom Baddley <tbaddley@ontheair.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JP - Necronomicon
Message-ID: <001b01bd4d60$fd343c20$a10437a6@ibm.net.tbaddley>
I've seen several requests for the songs that John Petrucci did for the Sega
Saturn game, Necronomicon Digital Pinball
( http://kaze.kazenet.com/nec.html ). I've never seen these two songs in
any format, so I have encoded the only version I have into MP3 files.
Unfortunately, this source is from a video tape of a JP guitar clinic
(Orlando, FL - 8/18/97 same tape as Purple Rain on Dr. Mosh's site). It's
mono, and the DAT "backing band" that JP was using sounds really crappy, but
JP really shreds on these two short (>2 min) songs. I could also swear that
MP did the drums for the backing tracks...if not...someone VERY influenced
by Mike.
If anyone would like for me to e-mail these two files for posting on a web
site, I would be happy to send them to you. Files sizes are: 852K & 908K.
Now, go to www.cdnow.com and have them Fed-X you a copy of Liquid Tension
Experiment RIGHT NOW!!
Keep 'jammin!
Tom Baddley
tbaddley@ontheair.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:51:33 -0500
From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Bad Trader
Message-ID: <35074DB5.3C8D@seacoast.com>
>Subject: Bad Traders
>Message-ID: >Pine.OSF.3.91.980311112003.14315C-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
>Could some one please post this to the jam
yeah I'll add a name to this list as well, Alan Esrada
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:42:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: LTE, etc
Message-ID: <199803120342.WAA29818@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, got my copy of LTE yesterday... slight hassle getting it...
went into Newbury's in Burlington, and could not find it anywhere,
which had me annoyed b/c alot of other BostonJammers got theirs at
other Newbury's... at least there was a Tower right next door, which
had it... had to pay $17 for it (probably would have been $12-$13 at
Newbury's), but at least I have it... Let me tell you, this is such
an awsome CD... still not sure about Chris & Kevin's Excellent
Adventure... like the rest... only have made it though 3 Min Warning
once so far (had to go down to a lab out at work, so could not listen
to CD at work much today)... I think that Mike's comments inside are
great... Damn Guitarists, Damn Guitarists, Have I told you I love
guitarists... really like the liner as well... some very cool
graphics here... and really funky shot of Tony Levin on the back...
Anyway, here is my idea for the summer tour:
1st Opening Act: Rudess/Morgenstein Project
2nd Opening Act: LTE
Main Show: DT
Encore: monster jam w/ DT, RPM and LTE
How's that for the show of a lifetime? Sure, Jordan, Mike, & John
might get a little tired... then again, Portnoy would proably be even
more of an animal after all of that...
Anyway, time to go before I ramble on some more...
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Date: 11 Mar 98 14:03:56 -0800
From: "Neil Evans" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LTE / PC MIDI Setup
Message-ID: <199803120545.VAA11357@mailsun2.us.oracle.com>
First off, every DT fan should own "Liquid Tension Experiment". It rocks
hard, features absolutely virtuoso playing, and is an amazing accomplishment
for one week's worth of time. The tunes are extremely cool - a couple could
be DT instrumentals, as somebody already mentioned. For guitar fans, you
will definitely be blown away by Petrucci's work on this album. If
anything, his technique is just getting cleaner and more ridiculously honed.
With both Portnoy and Petrucci on the album (IMO the "heart" of DT), this
is the next best thing to Metropolis II.
On an unrelated note, I would GREATLY appreciate it if any keyboard/MIDI
gurus out there could recommend a good MIDI interface board. Actually, the
manual for my keyboard (Roland XP-10) says you can interface it with a PC
through either the serial port (sounds like the cheap alternative!) or
through a MIDI interface card. Is the serial port interface sufficient for
some amateur recording? What do you gain from the full MIDI interface card
implementation? What MIDI cards do you recommend? What software?
Any help would be much appreciated.
jam on,
-Neil.
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