YTSEJAM Digest 3632
Today's Topics:
1) RE:Flotsam and Jetsam
by "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
2) Bad Traders
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
3) LTE, SX, Angra, and so on....
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
4) Re: LTE, SX, Angra, and so on....
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
5) Simple Portnoy test
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
6) LTE shipped
by yzzy <yzzy@earthlink.net>
7) LTE
by "Mark Fitchett" <mafit@classic.msn.com>
8) LTE as mpeg
by Alexander Moritz <moritz@tu-harburg.de>
9) LTE????
by Andrew <Andrew.Unwin@durham.ac.uk>
10) H
by Daniel Nobles <dozer@eznet.net>
11) Re: Oh So Agrivating! Please Help!
by "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com>
12) A question for Mike Portnoy......
by Angus53 <Angus53@aol.com>
13) Ron Thal
by Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net>
14) RE: Ytse-"pick"
by Eric S P Barker <EBarker@NBCI.Net>
15) Quebec/Creed
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
16) Levin may Triumph Eternal, but...
by the ugly truth <afn39111@afn.org>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3631
by Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
18) Re: Simple Portnoy test
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
19) Re: Bad Traders
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:13:00 -0500
From: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE:Flotsam and Jetsam
Message-ID: <199803111607.LAA12702@bertelsmanncis.com>
from denis:
>October Thorns, a progressive metal band based in Brooklyn, NY, seeks a
>highly skilled and dedicated keyboardist. Our influences include: Dream
>Theater, Fates Warning, Yngwie, Symphony X, Angra, etc.
..and flotsam & jetsam, right? i could be wrong and october thorns
comes from elsewhere, but i know that's a name of one of thier songs
from "when the storm comes down." (good album, by the way....)
--MATt
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:20:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bad Traders
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.980311112003.14315C-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
Could some one please post this to the jam
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:35:14 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LTE, SX, Angra, and so on....
Message-ID: <3275804e.3506bd44@aol.com>
where the hell do you people get these CDs? i've been to countless stores and
nobody carrys or has heard of any of these. you all must live in progland USA
or somethin.. i guess i'll just order from CD Universe, can anyone tell me how
long it takes to get the CD after you order it? i hate waiting a week for
something i pay for right away. anyway thanx
Rocky
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:54:54 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: LTE, SX, Angra, and so on....
Message-ID: <3506CFEE.42F892BF@caribe.net>
The iban wrote:
> where the hell do you people get these CDs? i've been to countless stores and
> nobody carrys or has heard of any of these. you all must live in progland USA
> or somethin.. i guess i'll just order from CD Universe, can anyone tell me how
> long it takes to get the CD after you order it? i hate waiting a week for
> something i pay for right away. anyway thanx
>
> Rocky
--how about waiting 2,3 sometimes 4 weeks? Cdnow has been useful for me... but they take about 2 weeks from when i place the order till it gets to my door... cdconnection takes about the same (keep in mind i live off the continental US)
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:progboy@mindless.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:04:05 EST From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Simple Portnoy test Message-ID: <658d29de.3506c407@aol.com>
Why doesn't an YtseJammer just approach Mike (he's usually very accessible and more than willing to talk to a fan) and just flash him the email address and ask "Is this your email address?" If it isn't the REAL Portnoy, he'd have no reason to say it is." End of story. I have no proof of any sort, but I bet it is him. What would be the point in fibbing? To test the limits of your email?
Anybody who has met Mike Portnoy knows he is way too nice and outgoing. I mean the guy is the model for what every fan hopes their hero is really like. Well, a couple of European Jammers should just ask him on tour. Report back to us poor saps in America that have to wait for the return of the might DT.
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:09:13 -0600 From: yzzy <yzzy@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LTE shipped Message-ID: <199803111709.JAA24630@denmark.it.earthlink.net>
i preordered LTE and CDNOW shipped it yesterday -- 4 to 6 business days. i'd bet that it's here before the weekend and i can hardly wait. <g>
yzzy
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 17:35:24 UT From: "Mark Fitchett" <mafit@classic.msn.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LTE Message-ID: <UPMAIL06.199803111709510318@classic.msn.com>
Could anyone who has the LTE either e-mail me privately or e-mail the 'jam with the Catalogue number of this CD. I asked my local Record shop to order it for me (they are pretty good for this) and they phoned Roadrunner in the UK and guess what... Roadrunner knew absolutely Nothing! Perhaps if I have the Catalogue number aswell it might help. The Magna Carta (US release) or Roadrunner (R/o/World) Catalogue numbers will both do as I can order it on Import if I have to,.
Thanks in advance.
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:54:22 +0000 From: Alexander Moritz <moritz@tu-harburg.de> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: LTE as mpeg Message-ID: <3506DDDE.7B9B24C7@tu-harburg.de>
Hi there,
is there anyone out there who could mpeg a min. from any cool song on the LTE CD and put on his/her homepage and then gimme a mail, so I can download it? (Dont mail it to me!!) CDs gonna be available in Germany on 17th of March or so. That be great folks. Hope to hear from anyone..
Alex
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:33:40 +0000 From: Andrew <Andrew.Unwin@durham.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LTE???? Message-ID: <3506D904.3FB7@smtphost.dur.ac.uk>
Could somebody email me with a brief description of what this LTE CD is because I don't know - probably got mentioned somewhere but I had to junk a load of YTSEJAM's due to a lack of space.
Cheers.. Andrew -- Andrew Unwin http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d704dr 1st year MSci (Chemistry) Grey College, Durham University "You'll Never Walk Alone"
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:02:28 -0500 From: Daniel Nobles <dozer@eznet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: H Message-ID: <3506DFC4.5EFABBB4@eznet.net>
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O IF YOU ARE THIS GIRL - Please mail me, I promise not be too shy again ;-)
Yours, sincerly H.
-------------------------- Heh, H from Marillion? Oh nevermind............... Back into lurkdom I go............
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:27:34 -0800 From: "Paul Gregory Humm" <humm@levy.com> To: griphiam@ccnet.com, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Oh So Agrivating! Please Help! Message-ID: <199803111930.LAA18656@baygate.bayarea.net>
> The new Symphony X album (Olympus) > The new Enchant album (Time Lost) > > I've tried CD Universe and CDNow, but neither carry them. Is there > a better online store out there that carries these cd's? Please > point me in the direction of the light. > > PS. Also, CD Universe has had my Superior (Behind) album > backordered forever... I NEED THAT CD!
I recommend the Laser's Edge. You can find them on the web at http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd/. I have ordered from them before, and they seem to be very reliable. Their regular catalog (which can be viewed on their web page) specializes in progressive rock. They also have a separate, smaller catalog of prog-metal. Just click on the link that says "Progressive/Doom/Power Metal".
I know they have Superior's "Behind" for $12, and that they have several Symphony X CD's (not sure if they have the new one yet -- send them an e-mail if they don't have it listed). If you order a Symphony X disc from them, be sure to inquire about the price. The last time I checked, the Symphony X prices had not been updated on the web page, so the actual prices were significantly lower than the listed prices. I'm not sure if they have Enchant's "Time Lost". Hope this helps.
-Paul
----------- Paul Humm humm@levy.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:31:34 EST From: Angus53 <Angus53@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A question for Mike Portnoy...... Message-ID: <6cefcb65.3506e698@aol.com>
I have a question for Mike Portnoy (or whoever this that claims to be Mike Portnoy(not that I don't believe you are who you say)). But my question is "What was being thrown around at the January 4th show at the Vandi in Plainveiw. I caught some of it, but I was wondering if you could tell me that. I also heard that you started it, is that true? Let us know, we are inquiring minds. Later and Thanx.
Andrew
By the way, to say it once again, LTE rocks!
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:51:04 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Dedalus <mattb@mbay.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ron Thal Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980311114656.4410A-100000@otter.mbay.net>
OK, freeks, I took Tacek's suggestion and checked out the clips. All I can say is a huge thanks beyond words to our Mads. Those clips are fucking unbelievable! I know this is strange to say right after Mike declares himeslf, but they make Petrucci's creativity look totally school-boyish. Now, I really didn't hear much straight picking, but that might be because of the wav quality. What I did hear is two-hand tapping that will blow your chops so far out the window that you'll either burn your guitar or promist to practice 24/7 so you can do marvelous things like that. This is some of the most awesome combining of technically impossible playing with pop. You can groove to this shit, man. I don't mean just fuckin head-banging. I mean halling ass around a dance floor or down a freeway. The last thing I'll say is that I want these CD's now and damn my empty wallet. Be well. Matt B
============================================================================ ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION! Guitarist in the Santa Cruz/Monterey area of California seeks innovative, experimental, technical, and fun-loving musicians to create works of art and share them with the public. Enquire if interested. mattb@mbay.net ================================================================================= "That is the truth. Not the hammer and sickle; not the stars and stripes; not the cross; not the sun; not gold; not yin and yang, but the smile... Because they died, we know we still live. Because a star explodes and a thousand worlds like ours die, we know this world is. That is the smile, that what might not be is." (John Fowles, The Magus)
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:11:00 -0700 From: Eric S P Barker <EBarker@NBCI.Net> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Ytse-"pick" Message-ID: <01BD4CEF.23E5CF40@OC4.JanAlan.Com>
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]From Brandon V.
>Well,=20
>I think I solved the mystery of the pick (wouldn't want all of you to >have a restless night tonight worrying over it). To those who forgot, >the pick of interest is the pick that Petrucci, Vernon Reid, and others >play. It is ... drum roll, Mike P:
>| 7/8 * * *** * * *** * | 5/ 4 * *** * * *** |
>the _nylon_ jazz 3. I know some have said this, but I just got it >confirmed. Specifically, it is the black stiffo nylon jazz 3 (Sharp - >1.38) (item number: 47R3S will get you 24 black picks).
I can re-confirm this due to first hand contact with "His" pick. On the = Awake tour I killed two people :) for his pick that he tossed in the = crowd at the Denver show. The above describes it to a "T".
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:19:08 -0800 From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Quebec/Creed Message-ID: <35071BEC.48E3@dreamt.org>
First off, could someone from Quebec please tell me who you guys deal with for concert tickets, and if they have a website? I'm taking a trip to Montreal next month and wanted to check out tp see if there were any good concerts to go to, but when I went to ticketmaster canada's site, it seemed that they only deal with some of the provinces.
Also, I read an article on Creed in a magazine, and they sounded interesting, so I bought their CD My Own Prison. I had NO idea they were the ones who sung the song that's on the radio, I didn't know the name of the song was My Own Prison, I just knew the line "Shoulda been dead on a sunday morning bangin' my head". Well, you guys can hate me for it, but I actually like this CD! It is kinda "grungy" but imo, it's good! And for all of you who don't see the talent, check out the guitar solo in Pity For A Dime. Pretty good. I heard the guitarist, Mark Tremonti studied shredders like Di Miola for a while, but he doesn't like to show off too much because he thinks it takes away the beauty from the song. Oh well, I won't go on about them any more. I'll shut up now. -- ========================================================================
"Are you gonna bark all day, little ----- doggie, or are you gonna ---- ------------- ---- bite?"-Micheal Madsen, ---- - ---- Reservoir Dogs -- - - - - - - - -- "In our life there's "if" - - - - - - - In our beliefs there's "lie" - - -- - -- - - In our business there's "sin" -- - - - - - - - -- In our bodies there's "die" ---- - - - ---- Megadeth-"This Was My Life" ---- ------------- ---- Brian ----- DreamNDay@dreamt.org ========================================================================
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:23:20 -0500 (EST) From: the ugly truth <afn39111@afn.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Levin may Triumph Eternal, but... Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.95.980311151511.233751D-100000@freenet2.afn.org>
I bought three CDs yesterday (dangerous habit leftover from when I earned money), and the other two were by Mick Karn, who used to be the bass player for Japan. If you're looking for more ungodly instrumental music, "Bestial Cluster" is the next album to get. Not nearly as uptempo, but Mick Karn is EVERYWHERE on that damn fretless bass, and all his basslines are eerie and melodic. And Steve Jansen, my God what a drummer. Subtle, yet shifting time signatures from measure to measure. Comes well recommended.
-=- I know a monster when I see one in the mirror.
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:18:33 -0500 (EST) From: Dan <drussell@thunder.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3631 Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.980311161754.516A-100000@thunder.ocis.temple.edu>
So Mike Portnoy really posted an email message on here???? If so what is his account address, I wanna see what his AOL profile says. Later
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:37:33 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Simple Portnoy test Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980311143731.006dcbd0@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 09:13 AM 3/11/98 -0800, Calvin 6S wrote: > >Why doesn't an YtseJammer just approach Mike (he's usually very accessible and >more than willing to talk to a fan) and just flash him the email address and >ask "Is this your email address?" If it isn't the REAL Portnoy, he'd have no >reason to say it is."
No need for that, Calvin. Probably half of us already knew his e-mail addy anyway :) Trust us, it's him :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:49:08 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Bad Traders Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980311183103.21993C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Dan wrote:
> Could some one please post this to the jam
Well, since I'm keeping this list, I'd like to inform you that I'm not updating it since Andrew Forcier sent me it. Just for your information the list contains both good and bad traders and the last update it received was (according to my book):
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - rebutosa:/home/specmac/rbrito> ls -lAF www/ytselist.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 rbrito specmac 4442 Jun 26 1997 www/ytselist.txt rebutosa:/home/specmac/rbrito> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
This is a list of the people that members of the Dream Theater Mailing List, The Ytse Jam, have traded with. The list manager's e-mail address is mailto:andrew.forcier@prudential.com and all requests should be directed here.
Do not mail bomb the people on the list asking for trades. This list should be for use if there is a question over someone you have initiated trade talks with.
All listings are sorted alphabetically by last name in categories of 1) with e-mail address, 2) with loaction, 3) with full name, 4) with nick name.
Those who are listed in the *good trader* section are those who completed their trade to the satisfaction of the recipient.
Those who are listed in the *mixed response* section either a) were submitted for both the good and bad trader lists, or b) completed the trade, but not to the recipient's satisfaction. This only refers to if the *service or materials* were unsatisfactory . This does not mean include if you thought the recording was poor quality, just the time frame the materials were sent in and the manner in which they were sent (i.e., not the type of tape you requested, no cases sent when requested, poor mailing packagi ng).
Those who are listed in the *bad trader* section did not complete their trade at all.
At any time, any person may 1) request a copy of this list, 2) submit a name for any section of this list, and 3) request information as to who submitted what name. Any issues relating to why a person submitted a name will not be dealt with by the list ma nager; take it up with the person who submitted the name.
If you see a name listed twice in a row, please ignore the duplication, it is just a managerial error. If you have any additional information about names listed here (e-mail address, location) please feel free to submit it.
Also, at the very bottom of this list are the names of reputable CD distributors. They will deliver your CDs as ordered, and in a timely manner (6-8 weeks). Submissions are accepted for this list also. Please ensure that they meet the standards above. ____________________________________________________________________
GOOD TRADERS: -------------------------- With e-mail address: Bahr, Melissa (emerald@goodnet.com) Bahr, Mike (durnik@goodnet.com), also: http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/prism.html Bellardine, Christopher (chris154@clam.rutgers.edu) Borland, Graham (gborland@apsoft.co.uk) Brito, Rogerio (rbrito@ime.usp.br) Colberg, Jim (Jamesarin@aol.com) Desobe, Eric (EricD91011@aol.com) Eric ?? (EricD91011@aol.com) Griffin, Pat (c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu) Huisman, Eddy (+EDDYH@CSI.compuserve.com) and other e-mail addresses Maurissen, Bart (bart@bausch.be) Merlo, Chris (cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org) Trevor ?? (trevorw@ms.kallback.com) Warren, Richard (rwarren@memphisonline.com)
With location: Cook, Scott (California) Ollila, Mape (Finland) Silva, Daivd (unknown e-mail address from Penn State)
By last name: Albert, Jen (Airdance) Backof, Michael Backoff, Michael Balich, Brian Bast, George Batey, Ted Berger, Matthew Bertapelle, Adam Bode, Olaf Braun, Randall Burstin. Mike Chang, Telly Chew, Steve Cox, Brian Craven, Todd Daugherty, Kevin Erwich, Matthew Fyhr, Chris Gorny, Stephen Hartman, Jason Hoit, Trevor Keast, Michael Kobayashi, Kaoru Kotzian, John Lodge, Tim Lupone, Vince Ma, Fernando McCabe, John Odneal, Larry Ostrich, Mike Peele, Jay Polzin, Edward Preissl, Wolf Rivera, Richie Robbins, Matthew Runde, Jay Schaefer, Andreas (Jerry) Semerenko, Walter Severine, Greg Silva, Dave Steadle, Eric Lee Temmesfield, Dan Viele, Mario (Ripzero)
By nick name: Jen (jenniebear) Dr. Mosh _______________________________________________________________________
MIXED RESPONSE: --------------------------
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BAD TRADERS: -------------------------- With location: Carey, James (New York) Estrada, Alan (Mexico) Frankel, Charone (California)
By last name: Balkewicz, Al Haynes, Jeremy Moscardini, Sue
Address only: Anyone living at 6 Kish in Wallingford CT
_______________________________________________________________________ CD DISTRIBUTORS: -------------------------- Kiss the Stone: http://www.kts.it Knights of the Round: http://www.knightsoftheround.com
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If I have some time, I'll update this list, including a new formatting, but don't expect anything very soon. If you plan to include new bad/good traders, please send an e-mail to <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> with subject "BAD TRADER" (without quotes, uppercase characters -- a program will automatically separate my personal e-mails from such messages and this separation will be based on the subject). Please, include *ALL* information you have about the bad trader. If you have information about other traders on this list, please send me that extra information.
Another observation is that Andrew Forcier included my name there, but I think that I'll remove that from the list, because I don't like self promotion. :-)
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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