YTSEJAM Digest 3638
Today's Topics:
1) Hell has frozen over.......
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
2) ...L,M,N,O,P,__,__,S,T,U,V,W...(fill in the blanks)
by HseJackBlt <HseJackBlt@aol.com>
3) Attention JOURNEY Fans!!!!! (NDTC)
by JE78674@ltu.edu
4) Iron Maiden web-chat
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
5) Munich gig
by Adam Bodnar <ytsejam@falcon.sch.bme.hu>
6) OzzFighters....Awwww Foooey!! ;)~
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
7) Watchtower singer
by Michael Karlsson <o-karmic@jmk.su.se>
8) Little Bit-O-Everything
by Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com>
9) a little help here
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
10) Re: Picks / LTE
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
11) Re: Winmailme DAT! and Fingerstyle
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3636
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
13) Re: a little help here
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
14) Re: winmail.dat
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
15) Bass Books
by Paul Drapeau <drapeau@cs.uri.edu>
16) FII ALBUM COVER & 'AWAKE' DEMOS
by Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:59:14 +1100
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>, freaks@ax.com
Subject: Hell has frozen over.......
Message-ID: <3508E752.C1484C67@sydney.net>
yeah it looks like hell has frozen over, yes the one and only
Enchant page on the web (I think) has actually been updated
for the first time since Febuary last year.
News of a new album titled 'Break' and a few other things have
been updated.
http://www.ccnet.com/~theoasis/
graham
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:31:05 EST
From: HseJackBlt <HseJackBlt@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ...L,M,N,O,P,__,__,S,T,U,V,W...(fill in the blanks)
Message-ID: <2f8d5478.3508eecb@aol.com>
>> I just read this on Shag's Screaming in Digital page
>> ( http://www.scream.org ),
>> and the fan club official Site ( http://www.queensryche.com ), about the
new
>> guitar player:
>
>That's odd. I just recieved word that they had broken up and disbanded.
>Appearently, they got dropped from EMI because their last album didn't
>even go gold.
That's odd. EMI doesn't even exist anymore, as they were sold to Seagrams and
split into parts, I believe. Queensryche has been on Virgin Records since EMI
folded. And I hope the next album will be "Angry" sounding, as the sites
indicate.
Naga-noonch,
Jack
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:39:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: JE78674@ltu.edu
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: Attention JOURNEY Fans!!!!! (NDTC)
Message-ID: <01IULQEAWGBM8WWZ8R@LTU.EDU>
To all the other Jammers who love Journey, I have some cool news.
A long-lost series of live taped shows was found and has been produced
by Kevin Shirley as a new album to be released March 24th.
For more information, go to the following site:
http://www.journeycontinues.com/
This album should kick much ass.
Later,
Jeff E.
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:17:34 +0100
From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Iron Maiden web-chat
Message-ID: <v04003a01b12ea50ae1af@[194.121.235.251]>
Hi!
Some NDTC from me:
At 6:30pm MET (that's 12:30pm EST) Janick Gers and Nicky McBrain of Iron
Maiden will join a live Internet chat on http://www.koelner.de/chat. Check
it out, crash our server...
Ah, BTW: Jason McMaster was singer for Watchtower on their first album,
Energetic Disassembly, but then left to join Dangerous Toys. On Control And
Resistance they indeed had this Hades guy ;-)
Steffen
-- Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com> THE MIRROR - deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.westend.com/TheMirror)------------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:56:17 +0100 (MET) From: Adam Bodnar <ytsejam@falcon.sch.bme.hu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Munich gig Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980313105228.30975B-200000@falcon.sch.bme.hu>
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Hey hi!
I saw DT in Munich on Tuesday and here's a short review of the show. BTW someone mentioned drunk hungarians before; I heard some shouting at the front door, but I don't think they spoke hungarian. Anyway, who wrote that review? Did we meet? Since we were at the stage door for a long while too. Sorry if the setlist isn't that correct, but I can't remember clearly, coz this was my first DT gig ever and I was totally mad:)
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:04:34 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: OzzFighters....Awwww Foooey!! ;)~ Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980313030432.006dfb4c@postoffice.syspac.com>
>The European Ozzfest audience will be treated to a bill that includes Ozzy, the >original line-up of Black Sabbath, Foo Fighters, Pantera, Slayer and Fear >Factory, with Coal Chamber and Life Of Agony among the bands playing the second >stage.
hahah :) Anyone else think the Foo Fighters are just a _BIT_ out of place on that bill?!!
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:13:06 +0100 From: Michael Karlsson <o-karmic@jmk.su.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Watchtower singer Message-ID: <v03020909b12ed248dedd@[130.237.155.141]>
This will settle the question of Watchtower's singer: Jason McMaster sang on the first Watchtoweralbum "Energetic Disassembly" in 1986. He left the band and joined Dangerous Toys after that. Alan Tecchio sang on "Control and Resistance" in 1989. He has a very similar voice, but it's not the same guy :) Rumours have said that Jason McMaster is back in the band, but Ron Jarzombek (Watchtower guitarist, now in Spastic Ink) has said that there indeed was talk about Jason McMaster coming to sing on the third still unreleased and unfinished album, but it ran out in the sand. McMaster has not rejoined the band.
Michael Karlsson
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 01:04:49 -0500 From: Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Little Bit-O-Everything Message-ID: <34E7D701.20DA@ix.netcom.com>
> anyway, about portnoy - yes, that's his email. there's no need to > mail him with "if that's really you..." 'cause he probably won't answer > those anyway. As for the "420", there's quite another reason for it's use, > and it isn't Mike's birthday, and it's much too illegal to talk about. :) > - m.
hehehe Sneaky aren't we grasshopper !?! ;> Be careful O-Knowing ones !! Ye may be that which sparks yet another gibberish war over morality !!!
> You Or Me - I really don't understand what all the complaints are about > with the Desmond Child intervention. This song sounds a lot like You Not > Me. I think they should have kept that little bridge with Mike playing the > double bass drums, but the rest of the song is pretty much the same. I > personally think the chorus in You Not Me sounds better than the You Or Me > version. Anyways, the point is that listening to this song you can see > that DC did not change it that much from the original version. > > Alexis NO SHIT !! I totally agree !! MUCHO BETTER-O ! You Or ME sounds empty.
> BTW, it seems as though they also never heard of Symphony X, now, I > never heard of them before I joined this group a week ago. Here in New > Orleans Progressive metal isn't exactly the big thing, so I'm looking > for some good bands. I know about QR, DT, Yngwie(Though i haven't heard > him, mp3's anywhere??) and Fates Warning, but I'm also looking for some > other good music. Any suggestions would be great, I love the keyboards > in much of the prog metal genre, and also the vocals tend to be pretty > clean, which appeals to me. Anyways, any suggestions ya'll could give > me would be appreciated, thanks... > Geaux Tigers!!!
Here's some EXCELLENT advice from the Masterlurker...Read the Jams, and take note (on a piece of paper or use notepad) of the band's names that you see being discussed. You'll trip on how many you'll get in a short time!! Then goto any of 100 webpages/musicshops and sample the music you can find...There Ya Go !! ;)
> RE: Portnoys email address. I think this is a big step towards something > very cool for us all here on the 'jam, and I hope that no-one ruins it > by blasting Mike's e-box full of crap everyday. I am purposely refraining > from emailing Mike in hopes there will eventually be more communication > between him and us on here. I think if we let him see that we have some > self control and won't overwhelm him, he may be more comfortable posting > from time to time and maybe doing some chats just with 'jammers!!!
DEFINATLEY TOTALLY PERFECTLY PUT.....PERIOD !
> RE: LTE - This CD is incredible. If you like instrumentals GET IT NOW > because you'll love it! If you don't like instrumentals, buy it as a > gift for a friend and support the cause :):):) > > Peace, > buster
Again I must say : DEFINATLEY TOTALLY PERFECTLY PUT PERIOD !
> Hi. > I've got thOught industry's 'assasins, tOads and gOd's flesh' and I > want to sell it. E-mail me privately if you're interested. > BP > No Signature!
Ummm......nO ??
> My name is Robert, and I'm a rather new Dream Theater fan. I just bought > my first DT album a few weeks ago. Since then, I've bought them all > except for "When Dream and Day Unite" which I cant seem to find anywhere. > If anyone could fill me in on the "history" of this band, I'd appreciate > knowing a bit more about them. Why did their original keyboardist quit? > Why was there a four year gap between the first two albums? If any of > these questions are on the faq, please forgive me for asking again. I DID > try to get a copy of the faq, but was sent an error message when I tried. > > Talk to you all again soon > Robert
Robert. Welcome to the list. Two things. 1.) READ EVERYTHING YOU CAN ABOUT DT. I mean CD liners, webpage FAQ's etc.. 2.) REDO #1 !! you'll learn avarything you asked and MUCH more !!
Zildjian
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:00:14 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: a little help here Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-980313130014Z-15571@ms.Kallback.com>
What was the date of the Providence Ff96 show?
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:48:07 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Picks / LTE Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980313104630.31582A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Dave wrote:
> RE: Portnoys email address. I think this is a big step towards something > very cool for us all here on the 'jam, and I hope that no-one ruins it > by blasting Mike's e-box full of crap everyday. I am purposely refraining > from emailing Mike in hopes there will eventually be more communication > between him and us on here. I think if we let him see that we have some > self control and won't overwhelm him, he may be more comfortable posting > from time to time and maybe doing some chats just with 'jammers!!!
I'm just quoting this paragraph to raise the probability of unclued people reading it.
Well said.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:56:44 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Winmailme DAT! and Fingerstyle Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980313105204.31582B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 someone@prognosis.com wrote:
> If you want to hear some beautiful acoustic playing, all pickstyle > check out DiMeola. He makes some of the most dynamic (read: Not > harsh all the time) music with an acoustic that you will ever come > across. Check out Passion Grace and Fire or Friday Night in San Fran > (Paco DeLucia and John McLaughlin also play on these, and Paco is a > flamenco guitarist... harsh fingerstyle. :)
Man, this CD, "Friday Night in San Francisco" is simply INCREDIBLE. I have never seen anything like that in my whole life. Fast (and I mean FAST) music that is really melodic and involving, uplifting (the first song of the CD is my favorite) and 100% played with acoustic guitar (I had never seen people shred with acoustic guitar before this album).
I'm wondering if their CD called "Guitar Trio" is in the same style than this one. Is it live also??
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:59:49 EST From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3636 Message-ID: <4d7c3cae.35093bd6@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-12 23:56:05 EST, you write:
<< You mean you USE a pick for accoustics? Accoustics were born to make ALL of the fingers of BOTH of yours hands bleed until you can show off some neat calluses. If you don't finger pick from the start, it's a rough deal learning it, but it's SO worth it! Accoustics with a pick makes it sooo harsh compared to the more mystical elements that come with running your fingers over the strings. -=AlisOn=- >>
where do you get your info?? finger picking with steel strings isn't very fun, thats why there are nylon string guitars for finger picking. by the was acoustic guitars were "born" before the electric guitar, and so were picks, so i wonder what picks were used for so long before the electric guitar was invented.
Rocky
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:02:44 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: a little help here Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980313110031.31582C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Trevor W. Hoit wrote:
> What was the date of the Providence Ff96 show?
It was December 12th, 1996. This is the only one of the shows from the Fix for '96 that was released on CD.
Since the show from Toad's Place has an incredible vocal performance of Portnoy :-) during the first few seconds of "The Killing Hand", I'm thinking of transferring it to CD also...
Of course, if my compiler allows me. :-)
[]s, "The Bootlegger"...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:07:01 EST From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: winmail.dat Message-ID: <89bc4d31.35093d88@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-13 03:05:17 EST, you write:
<< WINMAIL.DAT people: READ THIS! You have just downloaded a virus. Search your computer for the file win.ini and delete it at all costs. >>
<SCRIPT TYPE=sarcasm> ok, i skimmed this post, so i deleted my win.ini, but now i'm having this problem booting windows, so now i'm at the public library to read my mail, can someone help me fix this problem?? please hurry! they don't allow porn on the computers at the library!!!! </SCRIPT>
Rocky
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:14:47 -0500 From: Paul Drapeau <drapeau@cs.uri.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bass Books Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980313091447.0079e760@cs.uri.edu>
Hello All,
Does anyone know of a source (online or otherwise) from which one could buy the bass lines for DT stuff. I have been in tons of music stores etc. and all I can find is the guitar books.
If anyone knows of a place where I can pick up DT bass scores please let me know...
Thank You,
-Paul
ps: Could Eric Desobe contact me about our boot trade... I lost your email address, and I am having some technical problems...
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:01 +0000 From: Steve.Arthur@Thameswater.CO.UK To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: FII ALBUM COVER & 'AWAKE' DEMOS Message-ID: <802565C6.004E47E8.00@ThamesWater.Co.Uk>
I'm temporarily un-subbed from the jam at the moment due to workloads, however could any kindly and knowledgable jammers e-mail me with answers to the following points:
* Were any demos of Awake album sessions/songs recorded and if so what has happened to them. I've never seen any mention of them and the only pre-FII demo I've got is the Take the Time one.
ALSO
* Does anybody know anything about the FII cover shoot or alternative covers turned down by the band. I;ve flicked through the wonderful Pink Floyd artwork book showing Storm Thorgensen's thinking behind the Division Bell shoots. The only disconcerting point about the FII cover is the short-haired guy on the right who looks a bit too much like Robbie Williams !!!!!! (UK jammers will know him as an ex-member of boy band Take That)
cheers
Steve A
PS
crappy lyric joke...........
Q "What did the shop owner say after his store had been vandalised for the tenth time ????????? "
A Look in the lyrics to Space Dye Vest...............
................ "..and I'll never be open again ! "
well i said it was crap !!!!!
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