YTSEJAM digest 3646

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Mon Mar 16 1998 - 07:09:30 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3646

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: TORI
     by BA <geleshka@postoffice.ptd.net>
      2) CD's for sale
     by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
      3) Re: Confessions of a Bad Trader
     by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
      4) Re: TORI
     by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
      5) LTE in Australia...
     by Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au>
      6) Im Off
     by DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
      7) JP an Ibanez
     by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
      8) Seven Wonders
     by "Davide" <dada@iname.com>
      9) Subject ?!? ,We don't need no STINKING SUBJECT !!!
     by Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com>
     10) Re: Confessions of a Bad Trader
     by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
     11) Re: Seven Wonders
     by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
     12) CD-R & CD-RW: More NDTC dumb questions
     by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
     13) LITS/Milan 93
     by Adam Bodnar <ytsejam@falcon.sch.bme.hu>
     14) Petrucci's Rock Discipline
     by Adam Bodnar <ytsejam@falcon.sch.bme.hu>
     15) Easy DT-songs
     by Adam Bodnar <ytsejam@falcon.sch.bme.hu>
     16) DT pictures (Helsinki)
     by Sorsa Tanja <Tanja.Sorsa@avena.fi>
     17) Brito: Al Meola, TV ads
     by "SINGH HARDEV" <MC63129@sis.port.ac.uk>
     18) Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity
     by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
     19) The worst LTE sob story ever
     by AL <al@isd.net>

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:49:33 +0000
    From: BA <geleshka@postoffice.ptd.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: TORI
    Message-ID: <350C9329.A5401866@mail.ptdprolog.net>

    >
    >
    > Got 2 NDTC posts here...
    >
    > 1. Well, I finally broke down and bought a Tori Amos CD, Little
    > Earthquakes... seems very very good... so was wondering, from
    > the Tori fans, what would be the next CD that you would recommend
    > adding to my collection (although going by this, odds are, I will
    > eventually buy all of them)?

    Well bud, I HIGHLY recomend UNDER THE PINK. Her 2nd Solo effort. While I doubt
    anything she'll do will effect me as much as LITTLE EARTHQUAKES did, there are some
    very good songs on it, esp the last few which are simply beautiful. The production
    is a bit better, not that LITTLE EARTHQUAKES was bad, and it's a bit more bizzare
    at times. BAKER, BAKER may be my favorite Tori tune....very heartfelt.
    BOYS FOR PELE was produced by Tori and as a first time producer, it shows. It is
    very difficult to produce your own music..trust me I know! But, it does have it's
    moments as well.....
    All I can say is that anything she does is worth paying for.....so buy em all....I
    did!
    TORI RULES
    Brendt Allman

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:09:39 EST
    From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: CD's for sale
    Message-ID: <89c256ea.350cde45@aol.com>

    I don't want to piss anyone off here, but I don't know where else to post
    this. DT fans are the only ones that maybe able to appreciate some of this
    music. I'm not about to sell these to a music store for $1 a piece. I'll
    just keep them if it comes to that. Okay, I'm cleaning out my CD collection
    and would like to sale the following CD's:

    Aerosol Relish and Verve
    Downstroke Distorted Sunshine
    Fear Factory Soul of a New Machine
    Fishbone Truth and Soul
    Kotzen, Richie Richie Kotzen
    Kotzen, Richie Fever Dream
    Lane, Shawn Powers of Ten
    Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin II
    Manowar Best of Manowar (Import)
    Moore, Vinnie Time Odyssey
    Morse, Steve Southern Steel
    Pantera Far Beyond Driven
    Phantom Blue Built to Perform
    Rosetta Stone Adrenaline
    Sheehan, Billy The Talas Years
    Taylor, Derek Dystrophy
    Tempest The Gravel Walk
    Thal, Ron The Adventures of Bumblefoot
    Uhrich, Dave Dave Uhrich
    War and Peace Time Capsule
    World Trade Euphoria
    Yes Union
    Zappa, Frank Strictly Commercial
    Sandler, Adam What's your Name?
    Sound Effects Volume 1 Death and Horror

    They are all in excellent condition. I just don't listen to them anymore. So
    go ahead and email me privately at calvin6s@aol.com and tell me what you want
    and how much you want to offer. Of course shipping becomes less of a factor
    if you line in America and buy more than one CD. Depending on you interest, I
    may pick up the shipping. If you offer me $3 for one CD and only one CD,
    there is no way I can pick up shipping.

    Thanks.

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:20:39 -0700
    From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Confessions of a Bad Trader
    Message-ID: <01bd50b4$674d5aa0$260d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>

    >I have never read so much crap like this in my life, all these excuses,
    >why trade then if it's is so much hassle ?

    I dunno. I made a trade with Alan last year and he was real quick to return
    his part for me. It's funny how people will gripe about not receiving
    illegal things. heheheh.

    --KorgX3 goes back to sculpting a Space-Dyed Bong

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:25:49 -0700
    From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: TORI
    Message-ID: <01bd50b5$201b3ac0$260d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>

    >TORI RULES
    >Brendt Allman

    Jeeez! First Bernd, Marcel, Mike and now Brendt. This is gonna start
    turning into Prog-celeb central station at this rate. :) If I were you
    Brendt, I'd fake my return email addy, just in case. ;)

    KorgX3

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:39:59 +1000
    From: Luke <slslb@winshop.com.au>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: LTE in Australia...
    Message-ID: <350CE55F.7EB9@winshop.com.au>

    LTE : With all the trouble, stress and frustration people are having to
    get this CD, does anyone else see the irony in the name ? LIQUID TENSION
    EXPERIMENT - a rigged experiment to see how many devoted jammer's go
    insane with blood boiling tension just to try and find the bloody CD via
    dealings with record store ignorance to anything other than
    "Match-Spice-20-Hanson-Box-Girls"...

    > Simple: I live in Hobart, Tasmania. :)

    > As you're from Sydney, you should have NO problem feeling pity for me,
    > geez, even TRYING to find the CD was a fucking waste of time here.....
    > finding FII was a bugger..... :)

    I reckon you'll be lucky to find LTE on shelves anywhere in Australia,
    maybe unless you go to a specialist record store like the one in Sydney
    that Gaz 'gloated' about. (Lucky bastard) :-)

    I've been searching for it high and low all over the Gold Coast, QLD,
    and have had no luck and have now opted for online ordering.

    Happy hunting jammers - Czech ya,

    Luke.

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:43:25 EST
    From: DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Im Off
    Message-ID: <5aba2be8.350ce62e@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-03-13 15:08:17 EST, you write:

    << Other than getting tons and tons of e-mail, Portnoy won't be able to make a
     move on AOL without getting a dozen instant messages every time he logs on. I
     wonder if there's a way to turn that function off... >>

    yes there is just type in $im_off in the To: box and whatever in the message
    box and press send your ims will be off..to turn it back on simply type $im_on
    in the To: box and whatever in the mesage box. Sorry to take up jam space but
    i guess im just helping out Mike.

    ~ ESH ~

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:48:15 +0100
    From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
    To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: JP an Ibanez
    Message-ID: <v04003a01b1329626018e@[194.121.235.251]>

    Hi there!

    Just a short note:

    I asked John Petrucci after the show in Muenster about the rumor that he
    and Ibanez have split, and he confirmed that it's just a hoax. Who started
    this rumor anyway? Bummer.

    Steffen

    --
    Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
    THE MIRROR - German Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.westend.com/TheMirror)
    

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:19:55 +0100 From: "Davide" <dada@iname.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Seven Wonders Message-ID: <199803160848.AAA05712@odin.ax.com>

    Is the guy of the Seven Wonder Mpeg CD still around? I lost the link to his homepage and I can't find it anywhere.

    Thanks Davide

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    Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 07:10:33 -0500 From: Dave <hwoodson@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Subject ?!? ,We don't need no STINKING SUBJECT !!! Message-ID: <34E97DA6.18B0@ix.netcom.com>

    > Is there any DT that's easy to > play? > Thanks, > Joe DeAngelo

    AHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!! <----QUOTE-O-THE-YEAR candidate !! ;>

    > My question is: Which of the big stores (Best-Buy, etc.) have the best > collection of prog. CDs? or can you name little but known stores? > Thanx, > Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> aka Kurush

    Best Buy SUCKS ASS !!! Where are you going (city) and maybe someone there can tell you of some good "little but known stores". In South Carolina, Manifest Discs and Tapes are about the *only* place to but REAL music (no boots though)!

    > NuGgeTMaN Wrote : > I was just at Circuit City and they had LTE for $12.99 for anyone who's > still trying to find it.

    No shit !! Come to think of it...I got my HY single there for like $8 !! Maybe there IS hope yet !!!

    > From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> > To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: *** Bad Trader list *** Thanks for the info....but I gotta ask one question..WHAT THE FUCK IS.. > >P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb>sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;....ALL ABOUT ?!?!? Is that like stuttering ??

    > BTW, John Myung is an incredibly fine, kind person, like very few > people that I have met in my whole life. > Really impressive. > []s, Roger...

    No doubt !! I agree. Awesome person AND musician !!

    > Now, I am not taking your message as a flame, but what is so funny about > my sig? Is it the playing for money thing? > Keyboards, vocals, musical slut > I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. > "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and > endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of > Radio, 1980

    AHHHHAHAHAHAHAHA Candidate #2 for QUOTE-O-THE-YEAR !!!

    > Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu Wrote : > Well, I finally broke down and bought a Tori Amos CD,.....

    Am I missing something here ??? I MUST BE !! Hell, not long ago someone posted a suggestion of Incubus S.C.I.E.N.C.E. in comparison to I&W !! This shit is RAP with a rock sound on guitar!!! He should be fucking SHOT !! DT = (c)rap !?!?? NOT ! Shit, I almost bought the damn thing !

    One last thing. Does ANYone have a copy of the DT show at the Masquerade in Atlanta, Ga. on 12-16-97 ? Audio or video....PLEASE E-MAIL ME !! I'll pay WELL for a good CD or soundboard DAT.

    L8R Zildjian NP : LTE <for a long time to come!!> All this in a fuckin' WEEK !!! Good googly if they had a month....

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:54:06 +1100 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Confessions of a Bad Trader Message-ID: <350CE8AE.69AF3DE1@sydney.net>

    KorgX3 wrote: > I dunno. I made a trade with Alan last year and he was real quick to return > his part for me. It's funny how people will gripe about not receiving > illegal things. heheheh.

    Heheheh yep every trade is a risk, as for the illegalities of it all well that's another subject entirely :)

    graham

    PS bring back you Enchant page mate, we miss it :)

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:09:47 +1100 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Seven Wonders Message-ID: <350CEC5B.9ACF3884@sydney.net>

    Davide wrote: > > Is the guy of the Seven Wonder Mpeg CD still around? I lost the link to his > homepage and I can't find it anywhere.

    http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2236/

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:31:12 EST From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CD-R & CD-RW: More NDTC dumb questions Message-ID: <89c256f1.350cf162@aol.com>

    Okay, I am really getting into buying a CD-RW but I still have a couple of questions.

    1) If I make an ADAT recording of my music and wanted to make it a CD, can I do digitial, not analog copy for perfect copies? 2) If I have a CD-R, can I record 4 songs that take up about 20 minutes and then record 3 tracks later, and then another 3. No erasing, just adding to the CD-R. Of course this would come from collecting DT rarities and slowly building a CD of them. 3) Is it a pain in the ass to record from your personal stereo? For example, record from an audio tape or MiniDisc or DAT. I know I would do this because I would make live recordings of Band practice and then want to put good rehearsals on a CD-R. I would like to eventually standardize everything to CD, and when it becomes affordable, DVD-RW. But if recording from sources other than CD is a pain in the ass, then I probably wouldn't bother. 4) How hard is it to record assembled tracks from many CD's onto a CD-R? Sometimes I want to make best of CD's to listen at work, workout, and in the car. 5) I heard if you record DATA to CD-R or CD-RW's that you don't get the full 650 MB. Is this true?

    Please email me personally considering most people wouldn't want to hear this stuff on the ytsejam@ax.com. I wouldn't put this on here, but I don't want to talk to computer guys. They talk right over my head and don't know how to answer the question I actually asked. I'm computer literate, not computer smart.

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:59:28 +0100 (MET) From: Adam Bodnar <ytsejam@falcon.sch.bme.hu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LITS/Milan 93 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980316105901.5286E-100000@falcon.sch.bme.hu>

    I have both. LITS sounds better to me...:)

    o-------------------------------------------------------------------------o | "That Steve Vai, what a nice little boy!" | | Adam Bodnar | o-------------------------------------------------------------------------o

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:01:47 +0100 (MET) From: Adam Bodnar <ytsejam@falcon.sch.bme.hu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Petrucci's Rock Discipline Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980316110041.5286F-100000@falcon.sch.bme.hu>

    Actually it isn't a book as mentioned rather an educational video w/TAB book. You can find the TABs at Under A We Room homepage at: http://falcon.sch.bme.hu/dt

    o-------------------------------------------------------------------------o | "That Steve Vai, what a nice little boy!" | | Adam Bodnar | o-------------------------------------------------------------------------o

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:06:53 +0100 (MET) From: Adam Bodnar <ytsejam@falcon.sch.bme.hu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Easy DT-songs Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980316110249.5286G-100000@falcon.sch.bme.hu>

    Hmmm...let's see...the easiest DT songs are:

    PMU (as you mentioned) The Mirror (you got a 7-string, folk?) Surrounded (the guitar is pretty easy) Scarred (easy rhythm sections, but tough solo)

    you can find some TAB's at our homepage: http://falcon.sch.bme.hu/dt

    have fun!:)

    o-------------------------------------------------------------------------o | "That Steve Vai, what a nice little boy!" | | Adam Bodnar | o-------------------------------------------------------------------------o

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:39:33 +0200 From: Sorsa Tanja <Tanja.Sorsa@avena.fi> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT pictures (Helsinki) Message-ID: <F12B2785885AD1118687000629866EED036B48@AVENAEXC>

    Aloha!

    Some OK and some not-so-OK pictures of DT in Helsinki can be found here:

    http://members.tripod.com/~Tenze/dtpics2.htm

    Don't blame it on me! Blame it on my camera (if you can call it that)! :-)

    Tenze

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:48:31 +0000 From: "SINGH HARDEV" <MC63129@sis.port.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Brito: Al Meola, TV ads Message-ID: <52381CE56BF@pbs5.milton.port.ac.uk>

    On 15 Mar 98 at 23:32, ytsejam@ax.com wrote:

    > Yngwie is way too fast. :-) Unfortunately, I don't know many of > Yngwie's songs by name. I just listened to some of his albums and made me > some tapes (for instance, I have his "Magnum Opus", but I didn't take note > of the tracklist, unfortunately), but that's all. Which song is this > "Black Star"? Do you have the CD? :-)) > Black Star is the first track on Yngwie's debut album Rising Force. A classical-like masterpiece gone hideously electric! I'll never get bored of it. Cheers.

    p.s.- if you want the tracklist of Magnum Opus, email me.

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:17 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE> To: jon.henrik@mail.bip.net, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity Message-ID: <199803161117.iZsO@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>

    --- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46(0)670-16060 98-03-16 12.17

    -> jon.henrik(a)mail.bip.net -> ytsejam(a)ax.com

    DREAM THEATER - Falling Into Infinity USA 1997 EASTWEST RECORDS 7559-62060-2 Speltid 75:20

    Nu =E4r det s=E5 =E4ntligen h=E4r! De progressiva h=E5rdrockarna Dream Theaters fj=E4rde riktiga studio-album, om man inte r=E4knar med 1995 =E5rs "A Change Of Seasons". Deras f=F6rra studioplatta "Awake" sl=E4pptes 1994. N=E4r nu "Falling Into Infinity" snurrar i CD-spelaren kan man konstatera att det var v=E4rt v=E4ntan.

    Musikaliskt hamnar den h=E4r skivan n=E5gonstans mellan 1992 =E5rs "Images And Words" och "Awake". Samtidigt som dom blivit mer progressiva har dom flera ballader =E4n tidigare. I min mening s=E5 =E4r det ocks=E5 det som =E4r Dream Theaters styrka; kombinationen av det progressiva, det tunga och det kommersiella. Dom har bra l=E5tar och f=E5 h=E5rdrockband av idag kommer ens i n=E4rheten av Dream Theaters avancerade musikalitet.

    Keyboardisten Derek Sherinian har p=E5 flera av l=E5tarna ett underbart Hammondljud som f=F6r tankarna till Jon Lord. Hammondljudet h=E4rstammar fr=E5n en ny Korg keyboard och l=E5ter faktiskt lika bra som en riktig Hammondorgel.

    Tv=E5 l=E5tar, "Lines In The Sand" och "Trial Of Tears" passerar tiominutersstrecket. Den f=F6rst-n=E4mnda =E4r 12:05, den andra 13:07. "Lines In The Sand" =E4r ocks=E5 en av plattans b=E4sta l=E5tar, d=E4r D= oug Pinnick fr=E5n King's X =E4r med och g=E4stsjunger. Andra p=E4rlor =E4r = "New Millennium", "You Not Me", "Burning My Soul" och "Take Away My Pain".

    P=E5 den h=E4r skivan har de bytt ut de enormt snygga tecknade omslagen som n=E4stan blivit synonymt med Dream Theater mot ett icke-tecknat som ser ut som ett typiskt Rush-omslag.

    =C4n s=E5 l=E4nge har Dream Theater inte sl=E4ppt en enda d=E5lig skiva = och den h=E4r =E4r inget undantag. S=E5 alla som =E4lskar progressiv h=E5rdr= ock, vad v=E4ntar ni p=E5? Jag rekommenderar den h=E4r skivan varmt, liksom alla deras tidigare skivor. H=E4r =E4r den kompletta discografin:

    "When Dream And Day Unite" (1989) "Images And Words" (1992) "Live At The Marquee" (1993) "Awake" (1994) "A Change Of Seasons" (1995) "Falling Into Infinity" (1997)

    Om du vill veta mera om Dream Theater s=E5 kan du bes=F6ka deras officiella hemsida p=E5: http://www.rsabbs.com/dt

    -Recenserad av Greger R=F6nnqvist-

    \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +-----------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------------------+ | Greger R=F6nnqvist | | greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se | | Tlf: +46(0)670-12664 Mobil +46(0)103-365730 | | Kolla in Jih=E5s! http://hem2.passagen.se/jihas | +---------------------------Oooo---------------------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_)

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:47:29 -0600 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The worst LTE sob story ever Message-ID: <350D1151.7D510E3F@isd.net>

    Boy did I have a hard time finding LTE. I picked up the phone, on Sunday even. Called the local Best Buy in Woodbury MN. (eastern St. Paul Suburb) asked if they had LTE. To my surprise they did! Just as I was about to leave, a friend stopped by. He decided to drive. So hell, I did not even burn a drop of my own gas. thirteen dollars later, and a five minute drive with someone else paying the fuel bill, I had LTE! Na na na na na Minnesota rules! So does The LTE. Did I mention that was my first attempt at finding LTE? Gee I am a stinker. See ya, AL

    Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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