YTSEJAM Digest 3643
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Jap Hollow Years - Tracklisting.
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
2) re: Aol im shit
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
3) Re: Is Shadow Gallery Any Good?
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
4) LTE, Milan '9?, Japanese HY CD
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
5) Re: DT show in Mannheim 11/03/98 - only some whity stuff
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
6) Today's Record Show Purchases
by AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
7) Re: majestic harmonies
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
8) new parody, old song
by DragynLMC3 <DragynLMC3@aol.com>
9) Emailing DT
by Bruce Duesterhoeft <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
10) Re: new parody, old song
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
11) pickUPs
by "LionelWong" <precious@mbox2.singnet.com.sg>
12) Re: pickUPs
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
13) Re: LTE, Milan '9?, Japanese HY CD
by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
14) Re: Aol im shit
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
15) LTE, picking debate, etc...
by Riffinator <Riffinator@aol.com>
16) Stratovarius
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
17) suggestions
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:57:06 +1100
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Jap Hollow Years - Tracklisting.
Message-ID: <350B4382.2DFF57A6@sydney.net>
Syrinx wrote:
> well, the copy *I* have has a tracklisting of:
>
> hollow years (edit)
> hollow years (fii version)
> you or me
> the way it used to be
> burning mah soul (live at bitch hell; 12.14.96)
> the killing hand (live at bitch hell; 12.14.96)
Yeah *******we****** know this already.......
****#### I ####**** posted this over a week ago
I think that their is another release and that was what the question
was reffering to.
your in humbleness
graham
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 22:32:52 EST
From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: re: Aol im shit
Message-ID: <dedfd71b.350b4be6@aol.com>
<sarcasm>
thank you for your AOL Lessons, do you have any more exciting aol tips to
share with the ytsejammers???
</sarcasm>
Yes, as a matter of fact, I do! Everybody should leave AOL!!! I wish I
could, but it would fuck everything up, since so many people know my addy! So
before you get trapped, LEAVE AOL!!!
(I'm actually considering just getting another provider, to go along with AOL,
because you can't even surf without AOL crashing)
Art
The Official Joe Stump Website
http://www.joestump.com
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 22:55:42 EST
From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Is Shadow Gallery Any Good?
Message-ID: <eead658f.350b5140@aol.com>
Hi there -
> I was looking through the Magna Carta catalog that came in LTE, does anyone
> know if the group "Shadow Gallery" is any good? They are compared to
> Queesnryke and DT.
In my opinion: they are INCREDIBLE! Others say they're too cheesy. To each
their own, ya know? Anyway, you can judge for yourself at their official web
page:
http://www.prognosis.com/shadow/
I think (although I'm not sure) that there are some sound files to download
there for a taste test.
Laterz..... Matt T.
NP (STILL): LTE, baby!!! :-D
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:02:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: LTE, Milan '9?, Japanese HY CD
Message-ID: <199803150402.XAA02645@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, got a few comments about those subjects.
1. LTE: Wow, I can't beleive this, I was in Circuit City today to buy
a new alarm clock (can't believe it, managed to get water in my old
one) so was looking at CDs, decided, for the hell of it, to look
whether they had LTE, and could not find it under LTE (always look
for some of the standards, DT, Fates, whenever I'm at a CD shop to
get a feel for their collection, ance since I already have LTE,
didn't need ot buy it) and didn't see it, so I look at their DT
selection, and what else do I see, but 3 (count them, 3) copies of
LTE in the DT section, for only $12.99 (far better than the $17.99
I paid at Tower), so there you have it, Circuit City has LTE.
2. Milan '9? CD boot: The Milan '9? CD that someone asked about is a
clone of Lost In The Sky, in fact, all of the CDs that I have seen
printed by Live Storm Records are boots of other boots. (Have a
Queensryche Unplugged CD from them, which is a copy of the "real"
QR unplugged CD)
3. Japanese HY CD single: Well, not sure whether the Japanese HY CD
single with the 3/17/98 release date is the same as the one that
Syrinx posted about, which was the German one + 2 tracks from Birch
Hell.
(wow, just noticed the formating of my post there... long live Emacs!
:)
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:15:57 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DT show in Mannheim 11/03/98 - only some whity stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980315011251.9277A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Christoph Bauer wrote:
> We went out to the bus to see some other members. And then we saw
> something I still couldn't believe. The doors of the bus were closed. But
> we could see JM sitting inside playing bass!!! We went back to MP inside
> the hall and asked him:"Why is JM sitting in the bus playing Bass?" He
> said that he will have some kind of bass clinic next day and because he
> didn't do that before he wants to practice a bit :-)
According to some sources, JM feels very bad if he doesn't play
his bass at least 10 hours a day. That's what I call discipline.
BTW, John Myung is an incredibly fine, kind person, like very few
people that I have met in my whole life.
Really impressive.
[]s, Roger...
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Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:34:44 EST
From: AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Today's Record Show Purchases
Message-ID: <ea4b531.350b5a66@aol.com>
Hi Jammer-type people...
I had a very good day at the record show in Wayne, New Jersey today, despite
the fact that my friend and favorite dealer in prog CDs, Bob Wolf of Sights
and Sounds, wasn't even there. I started out with two concert video boots:
Marillion, taped Sept. 9, 1997, in New Haven, Connecticut (Finally! All 16
minutes of 'This Strange Engine,' live! YAY!!!), and Fish, taped October 24,
1995, in Krakow, Poland. I didn't actually have any solo Fish video in my
collection prior to this purchase, but this video was way too good to pass up:
pro shot, lots of Marillion songs in the set, etc.
Then I made my way to what I believe was Jart Music's table, where I turned my
disappointment at Bob Wolf's absence into a triumph of progressive purchasing:
four, that's right, four CDs, two of which were pricey imports, but well worth
the bucks. First I snatched up a copy of "Legendary Tales," by the Italian
prog-metal band Rhapsody, about whom I've heard a number of good things, for
only $15; then I found Shrapnel six-string wunderkind George Bellas' new disc,
"Mind Over Matter," again, only $15; then I added Arena's live album, "Welcome
to the Stage," featuring Pendragon/Shadowland keyboard wizard Clive Nolan, IQ
bassist John Jowitt and ex-Marillion drummer Mick Pointer, for $25; and
finally, the crown jewel, Yngwie Malmsteen's brand new "Concerto for Electric
Guitar and Orchestra," a $35 Japanese import. YOW!
And the last purchase of the day, at another table laden with bootleg goodies,
a $25 CD of Black Sabbath with Rob Halford on vocals, recorded at Ozzy
Osbourne's semi-legendary 'farewell concert' several years ago. It was either
that or a CD recording of a 1976 Yes tour rehearsal featuring not only a short
version of "Heart of the Sunrise" with Chris Squire on lead vocals, but a full
performance of "The Remembering (High the Memory)"--aka Part Three of 'Tales
from Topographic Oceans.' Ooh--decisions, decisions! I waffled for several
minutes, but ultimately I had to hear what Rob Halford singing "Children of
the Sea" (among other songs) sounded like.
The only better conclusion to the show would have been to find a "Falling Into
Infinity" concert disc. *sigh*
It was a good day.
-- Jeff :^)
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:43:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: majestic harmonies
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980314234320.13032A-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
Now, I am not taking your message as a flame, but what is so funny about
my sig? Is it the playing for money thing?
--
Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com
Keyboards, vocals, musical slut
I'll play for money. Enquire if interested.
"One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and
endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of
Radio, 1980
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:15:20 EST
From: DragynLMC3 <DragynLMC3@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: new parody, old song
Message-ID: <b81698d9.350b63e2@aol.com>
well, this is my first attemt at prodising (word? probably not) so here
goes... no one tried this one before have they? Anyway, I was bored and
thinking and this mutant lil brain child was formed.....
Kill The Mime
Words: Lisa Centorrino
Hold it now, wait a minute, c'mon, whew!
Just let me catch my breath...
They make those images
Plenty of mistakes
I've give a fair share of tough breaks
Need a new bat, new gun, new way
To kill the mime, dump him in th'lake
It's time to hide all his pieces,
And find me a new one
I think it's time for a change
This is something that I feel
I have to know what is the deal
I feel the heat within my mind
And in my head I see them die
Wandering around doing nothing
A glove with razors I'll fashion
I won't waste another breath
We can kill all the mimes
(It's time to kill the mime)
Destroy them all, sounds like fun
(It's time to kill the mime)
You're fighting an urge not to hurl
And no one can save him this time
Close your eyes
You will find all you need kill the mime
The broken bodies
Bloodied and bleeding
Finds the aliby this trial demands
And at the end of this day sighs an anxious relief
For the police cant find that man
If you're locked away for a year
Then man must turn to dope
If his obsession's real,
Suppression that he feels must use some rope
Get out the razor-edged glove
(It's time to kill the mime)
Listen to all the voices from above
(It's time to kill the mime)
You're fighting the urge not to hurl
And no one can save him this time
Close your eyes
You can find what you need kill the mime
I close my eyes
And feel them all around me
Slash and beat the mime
Let his body fall away
I feel better now, a body they wont find
Find all you need to kill the mime
Just kill the mime
~Lisa the Sick (im on AOL what did you expect?)
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:16:15 -0500
From: Bruce Duesterhoeft <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Emailing DT
Message-ID: <350B641F.BCD827A9@enter.net>
Well with all this stuff about 'The Real Mike Portnoy" and what not...I
just wanted to post that I saw on the DT Web Site that you can email the
guys directly.
Just go to : http://www.rsabbs.com/dt/mailer.html and send your mail.
Now whether you'll get a reply... I dunno.
Hope this helps any jammers.
Bruce Duesterhoeft
PS Shadow Galley is done recording 'Tyranny' and it's in the engineering
and production stage. No official date has been release - Magna Carta
has said April, but Gary from SG said that the date was still in the
air.
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:36:20 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: new parody, old song
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980315003602.28297A-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
I know someone who should seek therapy on their hatred for mimes :)
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:47:24 +0800
From: "LionelWong" <precious@mbox2.singnet.com.sg>
To: "ystejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: pickUPs
Message-ID: <199803150548.NAA03422@copper.singnet.com.sg>
ok.... I think (or rather know) that I'm gonna get flamed for this after
the stuff I said about picks. but here goes anyway. I'm using a DiMarzio
ToneZone for the bridge pickup.... I just bought a DiMarzio Fast Track I
for the neck..... any reason I shouldn't be doing that? (incompatibility or
whatever)????? Please, if U guys know this stuff, let me know? okay?
Thanks.... much appreciated....
Lionel
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:16:47 -0700
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: pickUPs
Message-ID: <01bd4fd9$eefd09e0$1e0d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
>ok.... I think (or rather know) that I'm gonna get flamed for this after
>the stuff I said about picks. but here goes anyway. I'm using a DiMarzio
>ToneZone for the bridge pickup.... I just bought a DiMarzio Fast Track I
>for the neck..... any reason I shouldn't be doing that? (incompatibility or
>whatever)????? Please, if U guys know this stuff, let me know? okay?
>Thanks.... much appreciated....
Probably because a Fast Track is basically a middle position pickup or a
Fender humbucker. It's still a humbucker made to fit in a single coil
position. They suck, too. heheh. If it's an Ibanez, I'd say you're most
likely screwed. Get an Air Norton or PAF Pro for the neck if do you have a
standard neck humbucker. The tones up there are rather mellow and sweet for
melodic soloing. DiMarzzio has a 30 day return policy. You can send them
back for whatever reason and get it replaced with a different one. (At
least this is what the guy I bought mine from told me.) So It's pretty much
OK to experiment, maybe. :)
As far as compatablity, I can't see why you can't mix and match whatever
pickups you want wherever. I've got a PAF Pro in the neck, a Fast Track I
in the mid, and an Evolution in the bridge, and they all work fine. The
Fast Track is mostly decorative now. I think it sucks.
Hell, it beats talking about picks. heheh.
--KorgX3
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:39:36 -0500 (EST)
From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: LTE, Milan '9?, Japanese HY CD
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980315013749.551839333B-100000@drew.edu>
On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Michael Burstin wrote:
> 1. LTE: Wow, I can't beleive this, I was in Circuit City today to
buy...
> I paid at Tower), so there you have it, Circuit City has LTE.
Damn it. That's it! I have an order of it with CDNow but am really
impatient since everyone seems to have a copy. I'm going to Circuit City
tomorrow.
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 22:55:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Aol im shit
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980314225442.16522A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, The iban wrote:
><sarcasm>
>thank you for your AOL Lessons, do you have any more exciting aol tips to
>share with the ytsejammers???
></sarcasm>
>
>the Rocky
>
Yeah. If you send a message 5 times, people are five times more likely to
read it.
--Matt
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 03:50:39 EST
From: Riffinator <Riffinator@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LTE, picking debate, etc...
Message-ID: <53c8aa36.350b965d@aol.com>
WOW........is all that comes to mind after listening to LTE several times! I
can't believe the masterpieces-of-prog-in-your-face-whether-you-like-it-or-not
on this CD are products of only 1 week of thought, but what do I know? I'm
just a 'damn guitarist'. :) After listening to LTE with headphones, I
understood why they let Shirley mix. There are just so many subtleties on
this CD that you can only hear <well> with headphones, it's like a whole
different perspective! (duh, I know, but try it if ya haven't :) This gem is
definately gonna tied me over for......a damn long time!
For those guitarists who are trying to fight the habit of economy picking:
play the riffs or scale runs that you like to warm-up with the same way
basicly, EXCEPT, pick the first note as an upstroke (or down depending on
whichever is the opposite of the way you're comfortable with) and continue
with the down/up pattern. Do it until it sounds as good as the way you
originally played. Also it helps if you switch rhythms....in other words play
a scale in 16ths then try it in sextuplets while keeping the same tempo. This
really helps for me anyway. (sorry to those who have heard this
before......just pretend you didn't read it :)
"Ya know, uhh......we're getting a little carried away here......oooo,
nice......EXCELLENT!" - Portnoy on (track 6) LTE
-Drew
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:35:53 -0800
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stratovarius
Message-ID: <350C1F89.74A9@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
I have question :
My brother owns Stratovarious-Visions with a multi media bonus track.
The CD contains the complete "Kiss Of Judas" video as AVI file !!!
Is your version of the CD the same or is ours a special edition ?
Another thing for all IRON MAIDEN fans :
The new maxi CD " The Angel And The Gambler " contains a multi media bonus track.
It's a live video of "Man On The Edge". I think it's a special edition.
NP : Empty Tremor - Apocolokyntosys <--- I just can't enough
Arash
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:36:18 -0800
From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: suggestions
Message-ID: <350C1FA2.4685@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I know about QR, DT, Yngwie(Though i haven't heard him, mp3's anywhere??)
>and Fates Warning, but I'm also looking for some other good music.
>ny suggestions would be great...
Here we go :
Empty Tremor
Shadow Gallery
Superior
Royal Hunt
Lemur Voice
Enchant
The Quiet Room
Spock's Beard
Arkhe
Eternity X
Vanden Plas
and if you like inteligent power metal :
Angra
Stratovarius
Symphony X
Black Jester
You should try all these bands. They are all very good. It's not only my opinion.
If you are searching for samples of Empty Tremor and Royal Hunt, then visit
my page (look at my signatur)
You can finde samples from other bands at :
Heady Metal : http://headymetal.simplenet.com/
Dr.Mosh site : http://progmetal.gmsnet.com
For more samples, check each bands site.
Arash
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