YTSEJAM Digest 3641
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Painkiller by Angra
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
2) Gallery of Shadows
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
3) How to shut your AOL IM's off
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
4) Petrucci: Rock Discipline.
by Alexandre Lymberopoulos <lymber@ime.usp.br>
5) songs to learn?
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net>
6) Re: Portnoy for President! (And Marilyn Manson for VP!)
by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
7) Re: majestic harmonies
by MentalHunk <MentalHunk@aol.com>
8) CD stores
by Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
9) Re: CD stores
by Robert Linus Koehl <robertk@jove.acs.unt.edu>
10) About my above message
by Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
11) Fw: YTSEJAM digest 3636
by "LionelWong" <precious@mbox2.singnet.com.sg>
12) Re: LTE stories competition....
by Chris Groves <cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au>
13) Derek Sherinian Q&A's
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
14) Help me, i need REAL information...
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Nicol=E1s_M=2E_Rinc=F3n=22?= <taborino@usa.net>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3640
by Htdmhd <Htdmhd@aol.com>
16) Thank yous
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
17) Re: Suggestions
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
18) HY Japanese single, 3/17 release?
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
19) Re: HY Japanese single, 3/17 release?
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
20) Re: majestic harmonies
by Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com>
21) Re: majestic harmonies
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
22) LTE Found!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:33:56 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Painkiller by Angra
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980313232925.4816A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, CP Parnham wrote:
> I know this NDTC but someone a week or so ago (probably on the DT
> chat channel??) said that the Angra version of Judas Priest's Painkiller
> was crap because of the vocals. To the person who made that comment:
> Have you heard the original at all??? Angra's singer is just trying to
> sing the song like Rob Halford sang it originally, and in my opinion he
> does it brilliantly! (I've only just downloaded it tonight!)
Well, just for your information (I may have said this before) this
song is available on Angra's 1996 EP called "Freedom Call". The brazilian
version of this EP contains 2 extra songs from an acoustic show they
performed in France, at FNAC.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:39:32 -0800 From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Gallery of Shadows Message-ID: <3509EDE4.5770@pacbell.net>
Hi all!
Just wanted to take a moment to let you know that there has been a mailing list set up for the fans of Shadow Gallery. If you would like to subscribe to this list please email me at: GalleryMistress@dreamt.org.
and I will be happy to add you to the list!
-- Hearts away.......
Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/coldfire/gallery_of_shadows.html
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:34:11 EST From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: How to shut your AOL IM's off Message-ID: <78d44ef1.3509fab5@aol.com>
<<<Other than getting tons and tons of e-mail, Portnoy won't be able to make a move on AOL without getting a dozen instant messages every time he logs on. I wonder if there's a way to turn that function off...>>> Uroborosss@aol.com
To shut your IM's off, send an instant message to the screenname $im_off
To turn them back on, send an instant message to the screenname $im_on
There doesn't need to be anything in the writing section, just the "To:" box
And you can also shut your buddy list off, you won't show up on other peoples lists, and they won't show up on yours. On the Buddy List, click on "Setup", then click on "Privacy Preferences", then choose which option you want!
Art
The Official Joe Stump Website http://www.joestump.com
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:52:51 -0300 (EST) From: Alexandre Lymberopoulos <lymber@ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Petrucci: Rock Discipline. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980314002609.23057A-100000@rebutosa>
Hi,
The subject of this message, as some of you might know, is the title of JP book about guitar techiniques. I'm writing to ask if someone could tell me more about this book. I found it at
http://www.musicbooksplus.com/gtech.htm
At Amazon Books I found two versions of this book. The first version wich has two editions (1995 and 1997) is a set with the book and a VHS video. The second version contains a book and a CD.
So, I'm interested in the book, the CD AND the video, but it's way too expensive to buy the two versions. Furthermore, what should I do with two books??? Don't answer, please... :-).
Hope to hear from you...
[]s, Alexandre. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexandre Lymberopoulos - lymber@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~lymber Undergraduate Mathematics Student - University of Sao Paulo - Brazil Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~lymber/bootleg.html "We are so human, we are so small" - Peter Garret - Midnight Oil "I'm your dream, make you real / I'm your eyes when you must steal I'm your pain when you can't feel / sad but true" - James Hetfield - Metallica =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:54:50 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: songs to learn? Message-ID: <350A0D9A.62059613@ameritech.net>
I have kind of a dumb question here.
I'm just learning to play guitar (have had just 3 lessons thus far), and my teacher asked me to dub several songs I like to a tape for him, to give me something to work on learning. This would be very easy if I listened to Hanson or something, but seeing as I mostly listen to prog., I'm trying hard to think of something relatively cool, that might be reasonable for a beginner. I don't think I'm ready to tackle much Petrucci or Van Halen yet. ;-) There's not much I can think of at all. Is there any DT that's easy to play? Only thing I can think of is the first 15 notes of PMU. Any suggestions (doesn't HAVE to be DT)?
Thanks, Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:21:53 -0500 (EST) From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Portnoy for President! (And Marilyn Manson for VP!) Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980314012030.551828711A-100000@drew.edu>
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, KorgX3 wrote:
> Agreed. Just stop a second and think. Mike's been reading the jam. There > are over 1,000 of us here. He has all of our email addresses. If he wanted > to say anything to you, he could have at any time by now. Obviously, the > ones who haven't aren't cool enough to get a response (I haven't either and > don't expect one), so don't bug the shit out of him so we can keep an open
I just re-subbed on the jam for a week during my spring break. What's this about Portnoy posting to the jam? Has he posted a lot. This reminds me of 2/3 of the members of King's X posting on the newsgroup.
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 02:26:50 EST From: MentalHunk <MentalHunk@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: majestic harmonies Message-ID: <20268897.350a313d@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-13 15:08:21 EST, you write:
<< The demo's at the end of the CD are with vocalist Chris Collins, I am not sure if theses demo's are on any other boot. >>
I too have this boot.....Its pretty decent sounding as far as boots go....Cool thing for me was they do Mission Impossible live....And the Demos at the end are from the 1986 MAjesty demo with Chris Collins on vocals.....I paid 30 bucks for mine, and they have one more where I bought it...Cool to ahve if you have the $
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:41:22 +0200 From: Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: CD stores Message-ID: <350A50C2.55ACCD95@netvision.net.il>
Hi there!
Well, it's time for me to go out of lurk mode for a few lines...
I'm travelling the US this summer. I'm gonna use the opportunity and buy some hard-to-get CDs (that is, hard to get over here).
My question is: Which of the big stores (Best-Buy, etc.) have the best collection of prog. CDs? or can you name little but known stores?
Thanx,
-- ----------------------------------------------------------------- | Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> aka Kurush | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/3247 | | | | Keyboard player | computer programmer | high-school attendee | -----------------------------------------------------------------
BTW: in the past month the jam has grown about 3 times... I can't find the time reading all of the shit...
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:50:12 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Linus Koehl <robertk@jove.acs.unt.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: CD stores Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980314034557.6305C-100000@jove.acs.unt.edu>
On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Shai Yallin wrote:
> I'm travelling the US this summer. I'm gonna use the opportunity and buy > some hard-to-get CDs (that is, hard to get over here). > My question is: Which of the big stores (Best-Buy, etc.) have the best > collection of prog. CDs? or can you name little but known stores?
I've found alot of rare Dream Theater, Savatage and Asia albums at a small chain called "Vibes." They're not as big as say, Blockbuster, but they have more rare imports. (Legitimate only, they DO NOT carry bootlegs) It's the only place where I've ever found a copy of "Live at the Marquee." They tend to be the big carriers of prog. They've even got a few prog bands I havent even heard of. Or you could try Blockbusters, Hastings, or the Virgin record store, but don't expect to find much rare stuff there.
Robert
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:56:49 +0200 From: Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: About my above message Message-ID: <350A5461.8131BBC1@netvision.net.il>
Hi there once again!
About my above message: private mail would be fine
Shai
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:40:32 +0800 From: "LionelWong" <precious@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fw: YTSEJAM digest 3636 Message-ID: <199803141040.SAA28853@zinc.singnet.com.sg>
Ok...... I know everyone's point that the feel should be important.... but surely U guys all know that while the equipment IS important, one shouldn't get too hooked up in the choice of plastic pieces to use...... in case U didn't know, Brian May uses a coin and Mark Knopfler uses NO picks.... surely these guys should be telling U something.... that good playing doesn't depend on picks at all..... nor even fantastic equipment.... I can give U the best racks, axes, stomp boxes and so forth, but if U can't play to save your life, U still can't play! So don't get too hung up on your hardware.... just play and enjoy your music....
As Gene Simmons said:" If U can hear the difference between 2 basses then I think U know too much...."
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:48:50 +1100 From: Chris Groves <cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: LTE stories competition.... Message-ID: <l03020902b130100cde08@[131.217.133.98]>
HAD the biggest gassle? I have the biggest hassle in finding the LTE CD!!!
Simple: I live in Hobart, Tasmania. :)
As you're from Sydney, you should have NO problem feeling pity for me, geez, even TRYING to find the CD was a fucking waste of time here..... finding FII was a bugger..... :)
-My sob story...... *sob*
>From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> >To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: LTE stories competition.... >Message-ID: <3508E3B9.5F3929B3@sydney.net> > > >Hehehehe, numerous recent posts about the difficulty of obtaining >the LTE album have been boring me shitless, though they seem to >be quite amusing. >So I have decided the person who posts the biggest sob story, i.e >who had the biggest hassle getting a copy will win a DT CDR boot >from me, winners choice of course. >The winner will be my decision, bribes most welcome :) > >graham
Seeya!
Chirs Groves. cdgroves@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au
"And you hate me.... because of my lazy eye....."
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:50:58 +0100 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Derek Sherinian Q&A's Message-ID: <01BD4F3F.D6989620@ns.globalxs.nl>
I've just posted the Ytsejam Interview with Derek Sherinian on "Under A Cyber Moon". Thanks to those who sent in questions and thanks a lot to Derek for answering them.
Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: 03-13-1998
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:31:13 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Nicol=E1s_M=2E_Rinc=F3n=22?= <taborino@usa.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Help me, i need REAL information... Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980313143113.09a79d48@pop.netaddress.com>
Hi to everyone!!!:
Excuse my 'latin' english... I'm from Santa Fe, Argentina in South America. This is my first question to all the DT's fans: Anybody knows when DT is going to play in Argentina, South America? (please Mike, answer me). The second is: What's the Liquid Tension Experiment? (who are they= exactly?). I hope you understand me, and i'll wait for an answer... Si alguien entiende espa=F1ol, por favor, escriban algo (especialmente Iv= =E1n Carvajal de Barranquilla, Colombia - 'tenemos la misma intriga, no? ).
Bye DT's friends... Nico or Tabo -- Nicol=E1s Mat=EDas Rinc=F3n e-mail: taborino@usa.net Santa Fe, Argentina
"Seize the day and don't you cry, Now it's time to say good-bye Even though I'll be gone, I will live on, live on" - Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:22:17 EST From: Htdmhd <Htdmhd@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3640 Message-ID: <1893e324.350aaebb@aol.com>
Does anyone have the address with the pic of MP & KJLB w/ short hair? I wrote it down the other day, and now I seem to have misplaced it. The Ozzfest lineup is weaker than last year's. BTW, does anyone know how I can find the 12/12/96 Providence show on disc? I am making a trade w/ someone for it on tape, but I want to know about the quality, vocal dropouts, etc. before I actually buy it; considering it is the whole show. I have the Milan show, and aaas far as I know, it is now out of print, so happy hunting. I'm going to the store either today or tomorrow to get LTE.
GO RAMS!!!!!! Huge win over Murray St. last night. Let's hope tomorrow's game vs. Kansas is a good one.
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:03:21 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thank yous Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980314150200.7189C-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
Dear People,
Thank you very much for all of you who helped me out with the questions about Metal Church and with the meaning of the number 420. I didn't know that. :-)
Thanks again, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:17:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: khc@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Suggestions Message-ID: <19980314181707.10611.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>
Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I know about QR, DT, Yngwie(Though i haven't heard >him, mp3's anywhere??) and Fates Warning, but I'm also >looking for some >other good music. Any suggestions would be great...
Of all the bands you'll hear about on the Jam, you should start with Lemur Voice. You can't go wrong there.
BH
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:13:06 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: HY Japanese single, 3/17 release? Message-ID: <199803141913.OAA01605@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Just wanted to ask (again), anyone have any idea what the 3/17/98 Japanese release of the Hollow Years CD single has on it? MusicBlvd has it on sale now on their page, but no track info... Anyone know?
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:08:45 +1100 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: HY Japanese single, 3/17 release? Message-ID: <350AE3CD.496C3CA6@sydney.net>
Michael Burstin wrote: > > Just wanted to ask (again), anyone have any idea what the 3/17/98 > Japanese release of the Hollow Years CD single has on it? MusicBlvd > has it on sale now on their page, but no track info... Anyone know?
NO as soon as I or someone else know's we will be sure to post it here. If it's different to the current Jap HY single I'll no doubt get a copy. Stay tuned.......
graham
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:00:11 -0500 (EST) From: Damon Fibraio <damon74@injersey.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: majestic harmonies Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.96.980314160005.18640B-100000@nj5.injersey.com>
Anybody want to make a copy of this for me?
-- Damon Fibraio, damon74@injersey.com Keyboards, vocals, musical slut I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of Radio, 1980
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:29:46 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: majestic harmonies Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980314182446.7986A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Damon Fibraio wrote:
> I'll play for money. Enquire if interested. > "One likes to believe in the freedom of music, but glittering prizes and > endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, Spirit of > Radio, 1980
You know, Damon, your signature is very funny. :-)
Oh, BTW, this is not a flame. :-)
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:49:34 -0500 (EST) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: LTE Found! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980314164900.21758B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
I was just at Circuit City and they had LTE for $12.99 for anyone who's still trying to find it.
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