YTSEJAM Digest 3649
Today's Topics:
1) Permanent LTE Boner
by JKorby1973 <JKorby1973@aol.com>
2) Re: portnoy and aol im
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
3) Re: BorgX3 on LTE
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
4) Re: BorgX3 on LTE
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
5) Genesis
by Daus Studenberg <daus@ufl.edu>
6) Union? (no DTC)
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
7) Re: Suggestions
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
8) Hollow Years tab and more
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
9) NDTC
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
10) guitar stuff...
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
11) Bad traders abound.....
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
12) Re: Genesis
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
13) Re: Bad traders abound.....
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
14) JP confusion
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
15) CD-R Home Stereo
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
16) Bootleg of DT show 3/1/98 in Oslo, Norway??
by "Einar B. Gilberg" <einarg@colargol.idb.hist.no>
17) Re: Genesis
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
18) LTE gaps.
by "S." Quack <squack@metronet.de>
19) Japanese 'Hollow Years' Single
by "Jason Skewes" <jskewes@cyberramp.net>
20) Re: Genesis
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:12:29 EST
From: JKorby1973 <JKorby1973@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Permanent LTE Boner
Message-ID: <d2aa7e0c.350dea1f@aol.com>
HEY AL!!
You're right, Minnesota does kick ass! I also hit Best Buy(Burnsville) for
my first stop and found LTE right away!! They only had one copy though-so for
all of you who are ripping on these stores for not carrying your favorite
CD's, maybe you should haul you're ass over there a little quicker to get
these CD's. Especially ones like LTE, since most places aren't gonna carry 100
copies of coolshit like that. Na na,na na na!! Love, hugs, and kisses, JK
PS-Anybody know if DT is coming back for another US run before the next album?
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:33:42 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: portnoy and aol im
Message-ID: <a816d415.350def18@aol.com>
>ya but how many people actually have his sceen name?
>and if there is actaully anyone out there who knows it what is it?
>would he really let everyone know what it is knowing he would never have a
>moment of peace to himself?
>Angella
well, he posted it to the jam, so if you were a religeous reader you would
know =]
your loss
Rocky
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:36:21 EST
From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: BorgX3 on LTE
Message-ID: <89c52416.350defb7@aol.com>
>I can't believe I wasted $15 on this. Not only does it absolutely ruin any
>incliniation towards my own future musical endeavors, it cured my leprosy.
>
>Anyone wanna buy some used studio equipment?
>--KorgX3
you didn't like it? i admit it does get kind of old fast, but its a great CD
for being written and recorded in a week, and it makes good waiting-for-DT-to-
come-on music =]
the Rock
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:16:41 -0700
From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: BorgX3 on LTE
Message-ID: <01bd515b$7d29b100$260d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
>you didn't like it? i admit it does get kind of old fast, but its a great
CD
>for being written and recorded in a week, and it makes good
waiting-for-DT-to-
>come-on music =]
Nah. I luv it. I just mean that it's the kind of stuff that makes you want
to just throw all of your guitars and shit in a box with your little
brother and bury them in a deep hole. My left nostril just fell off,
though. Leprosy's back.
--KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:34:43 -0500
From: Daus Studenberg <daus@ufl.edu>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Genesis
Message-ID: <01BD513A.422DE920@ppp-07-ts8.nerdc.ufl.edu>
I have heard in the past that there have been a few prog-heads =
reccommending early Genesis to add to any prog CD collection. What =
albums by Genesis would anybody reccomend as "must have" albums?=20
Thanks!
d a u s s t u d e n b e r g
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:29:04 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Union? (no DTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980317012639.393A-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
I'm pretty sure that's what the DJ said...anyways Whatever it's called
Bruce Kulik's new band kicks some serious ass! I'm wanting more info if
anyone else has this album please tell me what ya think...I'm seriously
considering gettin' this disc. For anyone who hasn't heard their new
single...the lead singer sounds like a mix between Savatage's two lead
singers...the guitar work is killer...and the track just rocks!
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^ would have 4 sharps. ^
^ "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke) ^
^ Eric Moegling: Manager for "Lifting Shadows Off A Ring" ^
^ and "Progressive Genius" ^
^ The Dream theater and Progressive Metal WebRings ^
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:50:57 -0600
From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Suggestions
Message-ID: <350E1D51.4D79@bellsouth.net>
I want to thank everyone who is helping me out with the bands out there,
I'm going to check out Tower this Friday and see if they have some of
them....And also, let the suggestions and perhaps samples on pages pour
on in, they're great..!!!!
BTW, LTE has not left my CD Player since I bought it last week, it's the
most unbelievable album I've heard. Tony Levin is awesome on bass,
Petrucci is showing all those dumbasses out there that he does indeed
have his own style, Jordan Rudess really impressed me and I'm going to
check out some of that Rod Morgenstein Project(spelling??), and of
course, Portnoy is a god, He's making me want to drop every other
instrument and just worship the drums, he's so amazing...Damn I wish DT
would come play in New Orleans(ARE YOU HEARING ME MIKE PORTNOY???)
hehe
-- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche------------------------------
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:58:05 EST From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hollow Years tab and more Message-ID: <801e6c5.350e1eff@aol.com>
I just checked out the Under a Cyber Moon website today and the following was added:
Hollow Years from Young Guitar - full size scans in .GIF format, zipped for ease of download (each page would have been a download file otherwise). It's about 1 meg, so be sure you really want it before you start. It does have the complete band score, so that's a definite plus!
WDADU Inside cover photos with autographs. I picked these autographs up during the first Images and Words tour (hence no Dominici autograph, anyone want to help me out with that?) You've seen the pictures before, but for those of you who haven't been able to get the autographs yet (remember, Kevin Moore may be much harder to get now), just download these, print them out on a good color printer and lie your ass off how you got them from the band personally to all your friends.
Well, I would like to thank "Itchy" for putting these up. His website is probably the only website I hit daily and should be the model for all other serious websites.
It may seem stupid to put up his website address, but there was a time when even you didn''t know about "Under a Cyber Moon" so here it is:
http://www.prognosis.com/dream/main.htm
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:21:51 -0800 From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC Message-ID: <350F21AE.407@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
Sorry about the NDTC - I don't remember ever posting much that has DT content actualy....hmmmm :)
A friend and I want some info on the following as we have never heard them....nothing in depth...reccomendations and style of music/comparisons....
Private Mail if you like to save that all important "bandwidth" I hear so much about......
Therion - Theli Sieges Even - Life Cycles, Steps, Sophistocated, Uneven Watchtower - Energetic Disassembly Deathrow - Deception Ignored Promethean - Gazing the Invisible Nightwish - Angels fall first Ayreon - Actual Fantasy Dream Theater - Images & Words (Just Kidding!)
Cheers
Paul D.
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:34:12 -0800 From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: guitar stuff... Message-ID: <350F2494.6540@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
OK....This is an excerpt from an email I got from a friend.....It's about a mutual friend of ours' new guitar....could the guitar people tell me if this is good and worth it??
>>He got a Genuine Steve Vai Ibanez Gem worth $3600 >>( !!!! ). It's fucking unbelievable - Natural wood neck ( no paint or >>varnish ) with a vine inlay spiralling up it, Awesome dark aqua leaves >>graphic on the body, 24 frets with the last 4 factory scolloped. It's >>beutiful - really low action so playing fast is a breeze.
Now I don't know if that is what he paid for it......or just how much he thinks it is worth.... Also it is Australian dollars so probably about $4.95 in US$$$ :)
Cheers
Paul D.
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 03:47:54 -0500 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bad traders abound..... Message-ID: <350E38BA.20A3DC6E@earthlink.net>
> Speaking of even greater BULLSHIT... Carlo has his bootlegs rated in a > system > where everything is rated A or B+ or better, I got the tape, and it was > some > shitty ass 10th generation tape that was MONO nonetheless...
Jesus, your arrogance amazes me! Besides the fact that I ALREADY sent you your tape in a timely fashion while youre just sitting around making excuses for almost 5 fucking months now!!! And if it was a 10th gen tape I wouldnt even own the garbage....ask Chris Ptacek if he's happy with his ANGRA/CONCEPTION concerts.
> Actually... I couldn't care less if anyone considered me a "bad" or "good" > trader... but if you want quality stuff, don't trade with Carlo...
How gracious of you. "Screw the world...as long as I get my tapes"...nice to see where your priorities are. And to think that I was actually considering including my new NEVERMORE concerts.....
> You'll just have to wait for your tape pal, like everyone else...
Haha..I've BEEN waiting 5 friggin' months! By the time I get it (which I guarantee I never will) prog will be popular again.......
I've never seen such arrogance (and I thought Al B. was bad)!
Carlo (Fates)
-- "When you know that your time is close at hand maybe then you'll begin to understand Life down here is just a strange illusion."
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:11:48 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Genesis Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980317010805.16118A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Daus Studenberg wrote:
> >I have heard in the past that there have been a few prog-heads = >reccommending early Genesis to add to any prog CD collection. What = >albums by Genesis would anybody reccomend as "must have" albums?=20 >
I personally rate it this way:
Selling England by the Pound was rated (yeah yeah, who cares) by alt.music.progessive (or the rec. equivilent) as the best prog album of all time, and "Firth of Fifth" (off the same album) as the best prog song of all time. I tend to agree. This album is a must have -- it's quirky like Peter Gabriel often is, but too much so (Foxtrot's cool, but just one shade too "quirky"). Another fav album of mine is A Trick of the Tail. This is post-Gabriel, with Phil singing, but it's not nearly as pop as their 1983-on stuff. Other would recommend The Lamb Dies Down on Broadway (2-CD bigass sounding album. Too much Gabriel for me, but to each their own). A Trick of the Tail has some great moments, but I recommend Selling England By the Pound as the one to start out with. Very very very good. The best, actually. ^_^
>Thanks! > >d a u s s t u d e n b e r g >
--Matt
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:22:41 +1100 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com, "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Bad traders abound..... Message-ID: <350E40E1.B9FE1847@sydney.net>
Carlo D'Angelo wrote: > Jesus, your arrogance amazes me! Besides the fact that I ALREADY sent > you your tape in a timely fashion while youre just sitting around making > excuses for almost 5 fucking months now!!! And if it was a 10th gen > tape I wouldnt even own the garbage....ask Chris Ptacek if he's happy > with his ANGRA/CONCEPTION concerts.
As I said before don't turn this into another 'Al & Pat' show Carlo, there is no need to air all your dirty underwear on this list.... Talk to Mosh in private before you totally choke on your foot and end up with zilch..
graham
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:35:34 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: JP confusion Message-ID: <v04003a02b133f4493f39@[194.121.235.251]>
Mmh?
Did Pattitucci play Ibanez *basses*?
Steffen -- Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com> THE MIRROR - deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub (http://www.westend.com/TheMirror)
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:47:14 EST From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CD-R Home Stereo Message-ID: <426a7156.350e46a4@aol.com>
Okay, I receive a bunch of helpful advice. Unfortunately, the answers to my questions were usually depressing. I am now planning to get a Home Stereo CD- R. They are much easier to operate. Sure they are for Audio only, but that is what I was planning to use it for anyway. The data storage would have just been a bonus.
So here is my new question? I saw a Philips CD-RW Home Stereo Unit for $599 and a Pioneer CD-R Home Stereo for $1599. Why would a CD-R only be $1,000 more than a CD-RW unit?
Can anyone give me some brands and prices to consider for Home Stereo CD-R units? I think I will be much happier with these.
Oh, one thing that may make me go with the CD-R for computer. I heard that you can make a 74 minute CD-R in less than 74 minutes because you aren't actually copying audio, but digital bytes representing audio. So you don't need to make the copy in real time. Is this true? And not just in theory. Have you been able to do this?
Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:43:19 +0100 From: "Einar B. Gilberg" <einarg@colargol.idb.hist.no> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bootleg of DT show 3/1/98 in Oslo, Norway?? Message-ID: <350D72C7.B1482353@colargol.idb.hist.no>
Hiya all!
I attended the concert DT had in Oslo, Norway 1th March, and it was one of my biggest experiences ever. Therefore, I would've liked having a bootleg or a video from the show. Anyone knows about someone who taped the show?
Please mail me if you have any info, or even better.. have a bootleg from that show for sale :)
Best regards, Einar -- Einar B. Gilberg tlf : +47-73 51 05 31 Kalvskinns gt. 3 fax : +47-73 51 05 31 N-7012 Trondheim e-mail: einarg@colargol.idb.hist.no NORWAY www : http://www.colargol.idb.hist.no/~einarg
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:17:53 -0500 (EST) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Daus Studenberg <daus@ufl.edu> Subject: Re: Genesis Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980317071603.17909B-100000@tornado.ocis.temple.edu>
> I have heard in the past that there have been a few prog-heads = > reccommending early Genesis to add to any prog CD collection. What = > albums by Genesis would anybody reccomend as "must have" albums?=20
I would start with Foxtrot, mainly because it contains Supper's Ready, a 24 minute opus. It also contains Watcher Of The Skies, one of the greatest songs ever made. If you dug that, then you should grap Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.
While you're at it, you can pick up the new one, Calling All Stations. It features Ray Wilson on vocals, and it's a classic.
- m.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 98 14:46:59 PST From: "S." Quack <squack@metronet.de> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: LTE gaps. Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.00717561636b20203030303630303036@MAPI.to.RFC822>
Hello evryone,
:My first post on the jam, but ive been reading for a while. i think this happens to a lot of people: you sign on to the list, you start reading, and you never really feel the urge to post, because sooner or later someone will post exactly what you wanted to say. anyway, the ytsejam has become a form of passive entertainement for me, it beeing funny, stupid, or informative, or just plain boring. but enough of that.
i went and bought LTE today, it is an awsome record. (just listening to Freedom of Speech, wonderful, dont you love how it builds up?) anyway, i have this weird problem:
between all the tracks there are two second gaps. two seconds of silence, wish is ok, but NOT in 3 min warning: the music just stops for two seconds when the track changes. ive run the CD on three diferent players and my computer and its the same thing everywhere. ANYBODY ELSE have this problem? i cant imagine this was intended.
Sebastian.Quack:squack@metronet.de; 'Einer leugnet den Jammer durch Hinweis auf die Sonne. Er leugnet die Sonne durch Hinweis auf den Jammer.' -Franz Kafka (1883-1924)
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:17:52 -0600 From: "Jason Skewes" <jskewes@cyberramp.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Japanese 'Hollow Years' Single Message-ID: <000701bd51af$8b9b9d80$8d8c21c7@jasons.thisco.com>
Here's a good write-up on the Japanese 'Hollow Years' single:
Dream Theater- Hollow Years + 2 / Japanese edition of single from their 1997 album 'Falling Into Infinity'. Features all four cuts from the European edition, plus live versions of "Burning My Soul" & "Another Hand/ The Killing Hand", both recorded at Birch Hill Night Club at Old Bridge, New Jersey on December 14, 1996. Six tracks total, also including two versions of "Hollow Years" (Radio Edit & LP Version) and the non-album tracks "The Way It Used To Be" & "You Or Me" (You Not Me - Demo Version). Also contains a fold-out insert with English lyrics to all five songs...........$19.99
This is from RPM Records at: www.rpmrecords.com
It's listed under the 'Just in!' section.
Jason
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:19:36 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Genesis Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980317111704.479B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Daus Studenberg wrote:
> I have heard in the past that there have been a few prog-heads = > reccommending early Genesis to add to any prog CD collection. What = > albums by Genesis would anybody reccomend as "must have" albums?=20
I don't have any Genesis albums nor I know many songs by them, but one disc that is up there on my buying list is "Selling England by the Pound", because many people call it a classic.
> Thanks! > d a u s s t u d e n b e r g
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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