YTSEJAM digest 3664

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Sun Mar 22 1998 - 14:55:00 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3664

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Dream Theater projects/participations
     by Richard Warren <rwarren@ixlmemphis.com>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
      5) LTE on mp3?
     by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
      6) Northern Virginia Jammers
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
      7) Rabbi Sparky
     by Kevin Corley <kcorley@u.arizona.edu>
      8) Ytsejam age...
     by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
      9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663
     by "subtlerage" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
     10) Re: Ytsejam age...
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
     11) D-man's radio show
     by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
     12) portnoy & aol im ( or something like that! )
     by Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com>
     13) portnoy and im
     by Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com>
     14) Re: The Spirit of Radio
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
     15) Re: Musical Masturbation
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
     16) Hollow Years CD Single
     by "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com>
     17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663
     by Htdmhd <Htdmhd@aol.com>
     18) gg: A Tull joke (fwd)
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
     19) Excellent news!
     by Mika Numminen <aarre.n@swipnet.se>
     20) Re: GAPS in Liquid Tension Experiment
     by WarrenDW <WarrenDW@aol.com>
     21) One minute songs
     by Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi>

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:36:50 -0600
    From: Richard Warren <rwarren@ixlmemphis.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Dream Theater projects/participations
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980322093646.00716570@popmail.ixlmemphis.com>

    > * Liquid Tension Experiment;
    > * The Age of Impact;
    > * Explorer's Club;
    > * Platypus;
    > * Chroma Key (not exactly a DT side project, but DT related);
    > * Dragon Attack (tribute to Queen);
    > * Working Man (tribute to Rush).

    I believe James is or will be on a Judas Priest tribute. I can't remember
    the name of his track(s).

    Later,

    Richard Warren
    rwarren@ixlmemphis.com

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:05:07 EST
    From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663
    Message-ID: <54d80e62.351536b5@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-03-22 10:20:13 EST, you write:

    << Hey, folks. I thought you'd all be interested in this week's playlist from
    my
     radio show, The Spirit of Radio. So, without further ado...
     
     Galactic Cowboys Feel The Rage Machine Fish
     Enchant The Thirst A Blueprint of the World
     Genesis Deep In The Motherlode ...And Then There Were Three
     Rudess/Morgenstein Drop The Puck s/t
     Asia Only Time Will Tell s/t
     ELP Fanfare... Works Vol. I
     Ozone Quartet Thief Fresh Blood
     Def Leppard Photograph Pyromania
     Tesla Little Suzi Mechanical Resonance
     Fates Warning Eye To Eye Parallels
     Mr. So & So Primrose Days Compendium
     Van Halen Mean Street Fair Warning
     Van Halen Summer Nights 5150
     Van Halen Without You Van Halen III
     Seed Kids...This Is Fabulon Ling
     Finneus Gauge A Mess Of Finesse More Once More
     Exodus Toxic Waltz Thrash Patrol (compilation)
     Liquid Tension Exp. Paradigm Shift s/t
     Rush Manhattan Project Power Windows
     Yes Going For The One KTA 2
     Spock's Beard June The Kindness of Strangers
    >>
    What the hell??!! NO DT?!?!?!

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:10:10 EST
    From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663
    Message-ID: <16b18b63.351537e4@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-03-22 10:20:13 EST, you write:

    << one band you seem to have forgotten was Chicago, who did Chicago II in
     1968, with it being(now) two CD's(I know, I know, it wasn't CD's back
     then), the second CD containing two very long pieces, from the classical
     sounding "Memories of Love"(which I believe is about 12 minutes or so to
     the jazz-rock sound that they are associated with in "It Better End
     Soon"(about 20 minutes I believe, but don't quote me). Any of you who
     like horns and lots of jazz influence in your rock, check them out, one
     of my all time fav bands(remember though, it's jazz-rock, not
     prog-metal) >>

    I was a big Chicago fan back in the 70's, and I partially credit them with my
    love for LARGE sounding music. They put on some great shows, too. Love those
    horns!

    Kez

    NP - LTE(again, still, continuously)

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:12:34 EST
    From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663
    Message-ID: <c42bcee4.35153874@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-03-22 10:20:13 EST, Ptacek wrote:

    << It's like this. If you tell me there's a dog in Iowa that can speak
     Hebrew, I'm not gonna believe it until I see some proof. If you tell
     me that this is legit guitar playing, I won't believe you until you
     present some proof. >>

    You go, Chris! Give 'em hell!

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:08:12 +0100
    From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: LTE on mp3?
    Message-ID: <3515376C.CEE932DB@stones.com>

    `Allo jammsters,

    I don`t know what`s about this album (LTE), but
    I can`t seem to find it anywhere, and belive me I
    searched like a maniac! And I`m drooling like a maddog
    right now reading all these reviews from you guys. If
    I don`t find it real soon I`m taking hostages.

    I found the samples on Rudess page, but u have to admit
    they`r damn short. To the point now. Does anyone know if
    there is a page with more smaples (prefferably in mp3).
    If not, is there anyone who could do me an enormous favour
    and make mp3`s of at least a couple best songs?
    Pretty please with sugar on top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I know this would be a violation of copyright, but we all
    know everybody will buy the CD just the same when local
    record stores get a copy.

    Carpe Diem,

         A desperate cry for help from a frustrated fan Matej

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:31:51 EST
    From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Northern Virginia Jammers
    Message-ID: <6ef1d7d1.35153cfa@aol.com>

    Hey all,

    I seem to remember some 'Jammer posting a review of the January 3rd, 1998 show
    at Jaxx in Springfield, and saying that he had the benefit of listening to his
    tape of the show for the review. Would that 'jammer(or any other one with
    tape of the show) please E-mail me, as I would very much like to have a tape
    of that show.

    Please.

    Thanks,
    Kez

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:49:39 -0700
    From: Kevin Corley <kcorley@u.arizona.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Rabbi Sparky
    Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980322094939.0069a09c@pop.u.arizona.edu>

            Chris, for your information there IS a certain dog in Iowa that speaks
    perfect Hebrew. Coincidentally this dog, known to many as Rabbi Sparky,
    leads a small congregation in Des Moines. If you don't believe me just
    watch Des Moines public access channel 19 at 3:30 AM est and you will
    become a believer. I guess once you see Rabbi Sparky's program you will be
    forced to believe that Ronald Rupp's inhumanly quick shredding is really
    him with the help of a six pack of Jolt cola.

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:46:34 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Ytsejam age...
    Message-ID: <199803221646.LAA10566@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>

    > From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    > Subject: Re: Musical Masturbation
    >
    > Glenn Waterfield wrote:
    >
    > > > WOW...Musical Masturbation..that's one I haven't heard yet..is that
    > > > what you do to get Ear Boners and Eargasms???
    > >
    > > Really? You never heard that one? That was thrown around a lot on the
    > > Jam just after I&W came out (yes, I've been here that long).
    > >
    >
    > Wait. the jam was around when I&W was released??
    >

    hmm... while I wasn't here in the beginning, I signed up around
    digest 19 back in Jan-Feb of 93... what was the exact release (date,
    or even month) of I&W... I know PMU was out in full force then, so
    Ytsejam was started around the time of I&W release, but probably
    shortly after... (again, I only started at like #19 or so, so at a
    slow post rate, that could have been over a month or 2 after it was
    started)

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:05:04 +0000 From: "subtlerage" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663 Message-ID: <199803221705.JAA11202@norway.it.earthlink.net>

    on 22 Mar 98 at approximately 7:25, you spewed the following nonsense:

    > It's like this. If you tell me there's a dog in Iowa that can speak > Hebrew, I'm not gonna believe it until I see some proof.

    ARF! WOOF! <PANT> <PANT> <PANT> ARF! ARF!

    -Andrew Miller - subtlerage@subtlerage.com - http://www.subtlerage.com - -"BAH!" - Anonymous

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:08:08 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam age... Message-ID: <35155387.DC172095@caribe.net>

    Michael Burstin wrote:

    > hmm... while I wasn't here in the beginning, I signed up around > digest 19 back in Jan-Feb of 93... what was the exact release (date, > or even month) of I&W... I know PMU was out in full force then, so > Ytsejam was started around the time of I&W release, but probably > shortly after... (again, I only started at like #19 or so, so at a > slow post rate, that could have been over a month or 2 after it was > started) >

    COol.. did ppl fight the same Kev/Derek fights with Chuck/KJlB?

    In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:18:08 -0500 From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: D-man's radio show Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980322121807.006a0f20@maila.wm.edu>

    Man, and I missed the show this weekend. I was waiting all week just to hear those two hours of WCWM, and guess what..at about eight o'clock I realized my sudden zeal to study had stolen it from me! Ugh! A reminder of what I missed. *sob*

    Alex

    >> Hey, folks. I thought you'd all be interested in this week's playlist from my radio show, The Spirit of Radio. So, without further ado... >>

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:50:30 EST From: Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: portnoy & aol im ( or something like that! ) Message-ID: <2a3bb81.35154f68@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-03-21 00:27:01 EST, you write:

    << well GOD DAMMIT your supposed to not have a life like me just kidding, don't yell at me, Rocky http://soft.simplenet.com/ >> i wasn't yelling just trying to make a point. ( that i miss somethings sometimes ) and sometimes i may ask stupid questions or make stupid comments. bye-gones Angella

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:58:55 EST From: Angellaa <Angellaa@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: portnoy and im Message-ID: <9f0549a4.35155161@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-03-21 00:27:01 EST, you write:

    << No excuses, no refunds, and no exchanges... YTSEJAM comes as is without an expressedly implied warranty of any kind. Your only recourse is to severe your eyes or attempt to unsubscribe. >>

    Listen i do not feel i have to explain myself any more than i already have, so i missed something it's not the end of the fucking world. ( pardon my french ) but in any case stop being so DAMN judemental. things in the jam are already repeated like a million times is it so hard or awful to explain it one more damn time? to someone who's curious or wondering? is it that so much of a chore? if so next time don't answer, let someone else answer my question or reply to my thoughts ( right or wrong ) someone who can spare one of their priceless moments....which i am so sure your's are.........( that was sarcastic by the way...)........... Angella

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:17:56 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: The Spirit of Radio Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980322151553.24588A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Christopher R. Merlo wrote:

    > Comments and requests (particularly if you live in or near Williamsburg, VA) > are welcomed and appreciated. And sometime soon (college powers-at-large > willing), we'll be bitcasting with RealAudio, so you can hear all this neat > stuff, even if you don't live in Williamsburg.

    Woohooo!!! Please, tell us *when* Chris!! I'm anxious as many people here probably are... :-) BTW, that pirate radio that I mentioned a while ago just returned to broadcast. :-) Many prog hours during the writing of this damn compiler. :-)

    []s, Roger...

    N.P.: "When Dream and Day Unite" -- Dream Theater -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:21:47 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Musical Masturbation Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980322152044.24588B-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Carlos Alfaro wrote:

    > Glenn Waterfield wrote: > > > Really? You never heard that one? That was thrown around a lot on the > > Jam just after I&W came out (yes, I've been here that long). > > > > Wait. the jam was around when I&W was released??

    Yes, I always thought that the Jam was started when "Awake" was released. I would really like to know this bit of Ytse-History.

    []s, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:28:29 -0500 From: "Metzger, Mark" <mmetzger@comversens.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hollow Years CD Single Message-ID: <603838AE6912D111A2B80000C07F4C9F01377C74@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>

    I have the Hollow Years CD Single for sale.

    The tracklist is as follows: Hollow Years (Radio Edit) Hollow Years (LP Version) You Or Me (Pre-Desmond version of You Not Me) The Way It Used to Be (U2-ish unreleased song)

    If you are interested, please email me. $10 US postpaid.

    Later, Mark Metzger mmetzger@comversens.com

    PS - According to _very_ reliable sources, the "new" Japanese HY CD single has not been released as of 3/22/98 and there is no specific release date imminent (although the release list may not show a separate release of soemthing that is already available). The best guess is that they will include the other two live songs from the French bonus CD that didn't make it onto the first Jap HY single - BMS and AH/TKH being the other two:

    Take Away My Pain Caught In Alice's 9 Inch Tool Garden

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:50:21 EST From: Htdmhd <Htdmhd@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3663 Message-ID: <62dbd182.35155d6f@aol.com>

    Got LTE Wed. Last one, BTW. This was put together in less than a week? Well..it sure sounds like it!!! You know when you have something on your mind, and you write or record it so you don't forget what you did, and in turn, you get the best out of it?? THIS KICKS MY ASS!!!! Great album! I haven't stopped listening to it! From the craziness of the intro of "Paradigm Shifts" to the kickass sound of "Kindred Spirits" and "Freedom of Speech", to the great sound of "Universal Mind", to the insanity of "Three Minute Warning" (never mind the dropout--it doesn't matter), this will be in my top 5 for 1998! Mike-- if you're reading this, are there titles for tracks 9-13, sort of like subtitles for the entire "T. M. W.", or is it just a straight song? Also, check out "Oscar de la Hoya's Big Fight Night on Fox" Mon. 8pm est. Also, I believe he's doing a live chat tonight at 9:30 on the Fox Sports site.

    BTW, do any of you know if Mike is related to Gary Portnoy, the guy who wrote most of, and sang the "Cheers" theme???

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:50:55 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: gg: A Tull joke (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980322155002.24588F-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>

    This comes from the Gentle Giant list... :-)

    []s, Roger...

    ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:01:52 +0200 ]From: achi raz <achiraz@inter.net.il> To: on reflection <on-reflection@lists.uoregon.edu> Subject: gg: A Tull joke

    Hi >From the Tull newsgroup. I think it's quite funny:

    In 96, when ELP opened for them, Ian was looking at his setlist sheet to see was he was to play next, and he stared at it for quite a while. He finally blurted out "Well I completely F*cked up! I was about to play something from Brain Salad Surgury!"

    Achi Raz achiraz@inter.net.il achiraz@mishkei.org.il ICQ# 9107607

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:58:10 From: Mika Numminen <aarre.n@swipnet.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Excellent news! Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980322195810.3a5f5190@bamse.swip.net>

    Spastic Ink are writing the next CD which will be entitled 'Ink Compatible'. It will be based on computers. Bobby Jarzombek (drummer), and Pete Perez (bass) both rejoined Riot and will not be on the next CD. If as goes as planned, the bassist on 'Ink Compatible' will be Sean Malone (ex-Cynic). There will be vocals on this new CD, handled by Jason McMaster (ex-WatchTower). Right now, Ron Jarzombek is writing drum parts on computer, but he is not sure who will be playing the parts. - Mika Numminen - aarre.n@swipnet.se - http://www.hgs.se/~te95mne -

    "The unleashed power of the atom changed everything save our mode of thinking, and we thus drift toward unparallelled catastrophes."

    - Albert Einstein

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:10:16 EST From: WarrenDW <WarrenDW@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: GAPS in Liquid Tension Experiment Message-ID: <498f0291.3515621a@aol.com>

    :

    << I heard the "Euro-LTE" on Friday at the record store, and the gaps mentioned here were there. It made me decide not to be the album yet, and wait for a better mastered version to come along (unlikely? well, Deep Purple did it with their In Rock-25 CD), or import it from the US. Anybody have an idea who we can email to complain about this? I think it is really stupid to f*ck up a masterpiece like this with easily-avoided errors in mastering (if that's what they are). >> The ONLY gap I heard was on "3-minute warning" and that's because they ran out of tape and had to go to Mike's DAT recording to fill in the missing music. It was their choice to tolerate the small gap near the end of the song and give us the opportunity to hear the entire song as recorded....live...instead of a CD with almost 30 minutes LESS music on it. If you want to E-mail to complain then send it to

    http//:www.Anal Retentive Whiners .com/pettybullshit/get a life asshole/~htm

    And by the way I copyrighted the internet use of the word "asshole" many years ago and so I have the _right_ to use it as I see fit. :>) <-------smiley face. Warren in Oregon

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    Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:43:48 +0200 From: Satu Reunanen <satu.reunanen@sci.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: One minute songs Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980322194348.0067b42c@mbox.sci.fi>

    I was thinking about this: Imagine if DT started playing one minute songs, like Agnostic front or something !! Ha ! What would you guys think about them after that ? It would be an extremely radical move wouldn't you say ?! Satu

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