YTSEJAM Digest 3663
Today's Topics:
1) The Sky/Laser's Edge
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
2) Sentinel Steel
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
3) Message from Derek
by Echomanyyz <Echomanyyz@aol.com>
4) Magna Carta news
by Echomanyyz <Echomanyyz@aol.com>
5) Dream Theater projects/participations
by rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
6) Bad Blood Between Steve and Bruce (fwd)
by rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
7) Re: Dream Theater projects/participations
by Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu>
8) The Spirit of Radio
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
9) Musical Masturbation
by Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu>
10) Re: 70's bands
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
11) Rupp
by someone@prognosis.com
12) my thoughts about LTE
by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
13) Sherinian
by AL <al@isd.net>
14) Re:Uh oh, DD's cranky.
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
15) Re: Musical Masturbation
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
16) I'm back
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
17) Arizona anybody?
by webmaster@45150.com (webmaster)
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:04:54 -0800
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Sky/Laser's Edge
Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34124A818@ms.kallback.com>
>"The sky is blue (IMO)".
Heh, heh, heh, it IS your opinion, because the sky is actually clear.
It just appears blue.
Unless you live in Seattle like me, where it appears grey. :)
Has anyone else's order from the Laser's Edge taken an ABSURDLY
long time to get to you? I ordered SIX weeks ago. I contacted Ken
after three and he said credit card orders take longer.
Great catalog and selection, but service? Especially since my order
was around $350!
Just venting, thanks,
Trevor
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:10:22 -0500
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Sentinel Steel
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980321191022.006a04b0@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Satu wants to know about Sentinel Steel:
>Can anyone send me some info about this company ?
>I know there's been lots of discussion about the
>companys and all, but I can't remember anymore
>which places were good and which were bad.
>Thanks tonz !
Sentinel Steel, based in New Jersey, is a fine place to deal with. Denis
Gulbey has a great selection of progressive and power metal (he calls it
"True Metal") and his prices are insanely low. I've ordered from him
several times and usually have it within two weeks.
You can reach Sentinel Steel via postal mail at
Sentinel Steel
P.O. Box 123
Rockaway, NJ 07866 USA
Phone or fax at (973) 691-5859; ask for a catalog. You'll be glad you did.
Great place.
Ta,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who
no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired,
gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
Currently playing: Bob Culbertson -- "A Moment in Time"
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:38:19 EST
From: Echomanyyz <Echomanyyz@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Message from Derek
Message-ID: <4f9145bf.3514799d@aol.com>
Derek Sherinian posted this message on the DT message board on AOL:
<<< Hello People,
I have just recieved word that we placed in the top 10 bands in the
Metal Edge Reader Polls, and that I placed #3 for keyboards.
I want to thank you all so much for your support, maybe if I wear
antlers, I'll beat Madonna Wayne Gacy from Marilyn Manson next year!
Thanks again and see you on tour this summer!!
Peace, derek >>>
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:44:20 EST
From: Echomanyyz <Echomanyyz@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Magna Carta news
Message-ID: <44ddfc42.35147b06@aol.com>
The Magna Carta website was updated yesterday. It says:
<<<Trent Gardner (Magellan) has been working on a new project "The Age Of
Impact," which Terry
Bozzio has laid down the drums for. Notable guests will include John Petrucci
and Derek
Sherinian (both of Dream Theater) and Billy Sheehan (Mr Big, Talas, David Lee
Roth). Special
guest vocalists, including John Wetton, will be added to the mix as well, more
info as it becomes
available. This album will be out June 23, 1998.
Shadow Gallery . . .
is working away on their next release, "Tyranny", also for September 25, 1998.
The band is
promising this album to be even more powerful than their previous efforts.
]From the one advance
track I've heard so far, this is a winner. The same agressive/progressive
guitar sounds as their previous
efforts.>>>
-Ian
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:34:36 -0500
From: rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater projects/participations
Message-ID: <MbIF1MlyZoVC092yn@ime.usp.br>
Hi, people.
I've been hearing about a lot of Dream Theater side projects
and participations in side projects and I thought that it
would be instructive to list them all. So far the list below
is everything that I know of which includes works by Dream
Theater members. Please, could you complete it??
* Liquid Tension Experiment;
* The Age of Impact;
* Explorer's Club;
* Platypus;
* Chroma Key (not exactly a DT side project, but DT related);
* Dragon Attack (tribute to Queen);
* Working Man (tribute to Rush).
Please, post to the jam.
[]s, Roger...
N.P.: Renaissance, "Ashes Are Burning"
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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:40:29 -0500 From: rbrito@ime.usp.br (Rogerio Brito) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bad Blood Between Steve and Bruce (fwd) Message-ID: <NqxE1MlyZUyX092yn@ime.usp.br>
Hiya!
Got this from the Iron Maiden newsgroup and thought that it might be interesting for you to read... []s, Roger...
-------- Forwarded message -------- Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.ironmaiden Date: 3 Feb 1998 20:10:52 GMT ]From: strako@aol.com (Strako) Subject: Bad Blood Between Steve and Bruce
>As kind of an aside, is there bad blood between Bruce and Steve? The >comment about recording would lead me to think so... > >-David
There isn't really any bad blood between them, I think the last time the two spoke was around Christmas of 1994 though. What Bruce said about recording is he (and Adrian agreed) that they would never want to do another record with Steve, because he's apparently difficult to work with in the recording process. I'm sure Dave and Janick and Blaze don't have much problem with it, because they weren't as prominent writers as Bruce and Adrian were, and Bruce and Adrian felt stifled in the writing and recording process. That's the main problem Bruce has with Steve. He said in a recent interview that "there are plenty of Steve Harris fans out there, and I'm a Steve Harris fan too. But not all the time."
Corey
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:31:58 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dream Theater projects/participations Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980321212148.22059A-100000@pollock.owlnet.rice.edu>
On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Rogerio Brito wrote:
> I've been hearing about a lot of Dream Theater side projects > and participations in side projects and I thought that it > would be instructive to list them all. So far the list below > is everything that I know of which includes works by Dream > Theater members. Please, could you complete it??
Not a bad idea...there certainly are a lot of them. FAQ material, maybe?
> * The Age of Impact; > * Explorer's Club;
Actually, this is just one - "Age of Impact" by Explorer's Club.
There's also that pinball game JP wrote some music for (whose name escapes me at the moment).
And, from the rsabbs web page:
>In his off time, Derek plays in his side project, a blues band called >Ethyl Mertz
(Actually, I've been curious about this one for quite a while. Anybody have any more info?)
> []s, Roger...
Mark McEuen mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 22:36:08 -0500 From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com, thoughts@home.ease.lsoft.com, jordan@bway.net, Subject: The Spirit of Radio Message-ID: <199803220336.WAA24086@al.cs.wm.edu>
Hey, folks. I thought you'd all be interested in this week's playlist from my radio show, The Spirit of Radio. So, without further ado...
Galactic Cowboys Feel The Rage Machine Fish Enchant The Thirst A Blueprint of the World Genesis Deep In The Motherlode ...And Then There Were Three Rudess/Morgenstein Drop The Puck s/t Asia Only Time Will Tell s/t ELP Fanfare... Works Vol. I Ozone Quartet Thief Fresh Blood Def Leppard Photograph Pyromania Tesla Little Suzi Mechanical Resonance Fates Warning Eye To Eye Parallels Mr. So & So Primrose Days Compendium Van Halen Mean Street Fair Warning Van Halen Summer Nights 5150 Van Halen Without You Van Halen III Seed Kids...This Is Fabulon Ling Finneus Gauge A Mess Of Finesse More Once More Exodus Toxic Waltz Thrash Patrol (compilation) Liquid Tension Exp. Paradigm Shift s/t Rush Manhattan Project Power Windows Yes Going For The One KTA 2 Spock's Beard June The Kindness of Strangers
Comments and requests (particularly if you live in or near Williamsburg, VA) are welcomed and appreciated. And sometime soon (college powers-at-large willing), we'll be bitcasting with RealAudio, so you can hear all this neat stuff, even if you don't live in Williamsburg.
Many great links to a lot of these bands (and more) at the TSOR web page (address below). See ya! -d
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The Spirit of Radio" Saturday 2:00pm-4:00pm 90.7 WCWM-FM http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/tsor
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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:13:14 -0600 (CST) From: Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Musical Masturbation Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980321230248.16766C-100000@grover.eecs.uic.edu>
Once Upon a Time Coldfire wrote:
> > I really like the CD, though; the lyrics are good and there's just enough > > "musical masturbation" to keep me happy. =] > > WOW...Musical Masturbation..that's one I haven't heard yet..is that > what you do to get Ear Boners and Eargasms???
Really? You never heard that one? That was thrown around a lot on the Jam just after I&W came out (yes, I've been here that long).
MM is when a band seems to be playing for their own benefit rather than the listener's. Since DT would often play several minute intervals without vocals, they were accused by some of "musical masturbation." I'm NOT of that opinion, though. I like I&W's long instrumental sections -- you might say I get off on them.
Ha! Now that's comedy, kids! Glenn
Currently in Glass: Pilsner Urquell - definite Beergasm!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ L. Glenn Waterfield "Call for your physics reading today!" "Live it up, boys. The meter's running." - Harry Caray Argonne National Lab Waterfield@anl.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:35:34 -0600 From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: 70's bands Message-ID: <3514B136.3080@bellsouth.net>
one band you seem to have forgotten was Chicago, who did Chicago II in 1968, with it being(now) two CD's(I know, I know, it wasn't CD's back then), the second CD containing two very long pieces, from the classical sounding "Memories of Love"(which I believe is about 12 minutes or so to the jazz-rock sound that they are associated with in "It Better End Soon"(about 20 minutes I believe, but don't quote me). Any of you who like horns and lots of jazz influence in your rock, check them out, one of my all time fav bands(remember though, it's jazz-rock, not prog-metal) -- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:03:12 +0000 From: someone@prognosis.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rupp Message-ID: <199803220800.AAA17704@odin.ax.com>
> From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> > Subject: Re: Roland Rupp
This is exactly one of the kinds of responses I expected. The "I know him, and I know he can play!" response. I never said he couldn't play. The songs are decently well written, and though he was hanging on and repeating some of the same "licks" a bit much, it wasn't bad. But it was sped up. I've showed 5 people now, and they all say it was sped up. The vibrato, the tapping, and the picking all exhibit sound qualities that are not possible (and wouldn't be something one would do on purpose... you wouldn't purposely make your vibrato go so fast as to make it sound bad) and some of the licks are just not right sounding... I mean, there are guys who can get close to the speed of some of those licks, but the notes take on a different tone when you're going as fast as he is supposedly playing. Then there's another issue. Is he playing a Hamer Californian? How many frets does that guitar have on it? More than 24, that's for certain, if this is in fact legit. The way I see it, there are two possibilities. The tape was recorded into the computer on a shitty tape player, and these are supposed to be slower and in a lower pitch, or Roland (or Alan) sped up the tape (in the recording or when making the sound clips) purposely to make him sound faster than he is. Either way, I pit my 9 years of guitar playing and my considerable library of guitar music against the possibility that this is legitimate. It's like this. If you tell me there's a dog in Iowa that can speak Hebrew, I'm not gonna believe it until I see some proof. If you tell me that this is legit guitar playing, I won't believe you until you present some proof.
"Apathy is the "suckbird" on cynicism's bloated carcass." - Dennis Miller
Chris Ptacek someone@prognosis.com http://www.prognosis.com/madsman Go Home and Practice!
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:16:04 -0800 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: my thoughts about LTE Message-ID: <35156374.4428@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>
Hi
Finally, I've got my LTE :-)))))) I really love this album. I love this kind of Fusion/Prog combination.
My favorits tracks :
Paradigm Shift Kinderd Sprits Freedom Of Speech State Of Grace <--- this one is soooooo beautiful. Some kind of "EVE-Part II". and Universal Mind
Mike Portony is just incredible. I don't like the Bass/Stick sound of Tony Levin.
I bought my copy in Germany but on the CD liners/Back cover, there's nothing about ROADRUNNER like my Shadow Gallery CD's !!! The distributer for Germany is Rough Trade NOT Roadrunner. In the Record Shop, they had only 1 copy (which is no mine) in their stock ! It's such a shame, they have exactly 45 copies of Stratovarius - Visions Of Europe or 32 copies of Vanden Plas - The God Thing, but no Superior, only 1 Empty Tremor, 1 Spock's Beard and 1 Cario.
NP : Liquid Tension Experiment - Liquid Tension Expreiment ;-)
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 05:26:50 -0600 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSE Jammers <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Sherinian Message-ID: <3514F57A.C10B6AAD@isd.net>
OK, I have been quiet on this topic, so far. The more I listen to Derek, the more I like his unique sound. Thats right, I said unique. At first I thought he was a John Lord clone. But he does have a sound all his own. I grew up on Deep Purple, so if you ask if I like the gurgling Hammond sound, yes I do. I wish Derek would use the real McCoy live and in the studio, and mic off the Leslies. Sometimes the Korgs reproduction of that sound sucks! OK, most times. Derek is a talented musician that fits in well with his peers. I think we should be thankful that he is willing to dedicate so much of his life, so we can have something to debate. It least when he=92s on stage, he does not look like he=92s on ludes. He could tone things down a little though. And I not talking about his ELECTRIC organ. Hehe :)
PS. Jordan kicks ass!
-- See ya, AL...
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:35:49 +0100 From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:Uh oh, DD's cranky. Message-ID: <351505A5.6C3522C0@stones.com>
>Pat Sullivan wrote: >> Jeez, pull your head out of your ass. You jumped all over the guy for >> saying "I THINK that VIRTUALLY every official live disc released...". >> Everybody remember to put IMO in every post you make, even if you are >> saying "The sky is blue (IMO)". I'd hate for Graham to have to keep getting >> his panties in a bunch over dumn stuff like that. It must chafe horribly.
>Look up sarcasm in a dictionary then....blah blah blah blah...
Graham, u really love this phrase, don`t you? :) Not only that u`r repeating other people`s cliche`s, u`r also repeating yourself!
Now chill and let people expressing their opinions without jumping on their backs everytime, u already proved u`r a hotshot!
matej
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:42:51 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Musical Masturbation Message-ID: <3515317B.95A0397E@caribe.net>
Glenn Waterfield wrote:
> > WOW...Musical Masturbation..that's one I haven't heard yet..is that > > what you do to get Ear Boners and Eargasms??? > > Really? You never heard that one? That was thrown around a lot on the > Jam just after I&W came out (yes, I've been here that long). >
Wait. the jam was around when I&W was released??
--
In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:03:43 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I'm back Message-ID: <199803221502.HAA20243@odin.ax.com>
Well well well, I'm FINALLY back on the list since I changed servers. So, did I miss anything? :) drnewb@spiff.net
Q. What did the elephant say to the naked man? A. How do you breathe through that thing?
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:19:24 -0500 From: webmaster@45150.com (webmaster) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Arizona anybody? Message-ID: <v01530507b13adc6031d3@[206.112.193.41]>
Anybody on the list from Arizona? Email me.
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