YTSEJAM Digest 3677
Today's Topics:
1) short songs
by Bobby Tufino <slime64@ibm.net>
2) D-man/WCWM
by alex <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
3) ny jammer
by alex <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
4) Re: The Spirit of Radio (to Damon)
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
5) Jason Becker
by AlisOn Wonderland <kym@eagle.cc.ukans.edu>
6) steve reich
by Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com>
7) RE: Jeremy Hyde's comments
by "The time is near, it is clear to see......"
8) Stuff
by Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
9) Saviour Machine
by trossier@ionet.net (Ted Rossier)
10) Re: Saviour Machine
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
11) Re: Jason Becker
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
12) chroma key release date, fates vid
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
13) Psychotic Watz
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
14) Re: BRUFORD/LEVIN AND PROJEKT 2 ON MTV!!!!!
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
15) Re: Black Light Syndrome/King Crimson
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
16) Roland Rupp: The New Shred Files
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
17) Re: Innocence Faded
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br>
18) Re: Jason Becker
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
19) DT and Music Videos
by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:33:34 -0500
From: Bobby Tufino <slime64@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: short songs
Message-ID: <3519B06D.C1CD4D27@ibm.net>
Okay jammers, name the SOD tune with the following lyrics:
".......you're dead."
Bobby (wondering "what the fuck is that fucking NOISE?!?!")
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:30:47 -0500
From: alex <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: D-man/WCWM
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980325203046.0070aad0@maila.wm.edu>
D-man assured us:
>>So, I try to play a healthy mix of everything each week. I generally play
something like 20% prog (like echolyn, Genesis, etc.), 30-40% prog-metal
(like
DT, Enchant), 20-30% straight metal (like Megadeth, Anthrax, and stuff), and
the rest I fill up with what I simply think of as "good music," be it metal,
prog, rock, whatever. Hence the VH, DL, and Tesla.
So, don't worry that I'm selling prog short or anything. The goal all along
was to play a mix of stuff, and promote my favorite bands. When I first
started I knew how important it would be to support prog on my show, but
after
one or two DJ meetings, I realized that it's critical just to support
*music*.
Most of the shows on WCWM play some kind of electronic garbage or another,
and I felt it was equally important to support the work of all rock musicians.
Besides, I love 80s rock. I won't ever stop playing Mr. Big, Tesla,
Whitesnake, or any of the great stuff I grew up on in high school. :) >>
Have at it, me boy. The "few listeners" appreciate that nice two-hour
break from the electronic crap. MOst of the time, WCWM can scare me, but I
always find Saturday afternoons very friendly. :) It's a GOOD MIX. Keep
it up.
Alex
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:38:59 -0500
From: alex <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ny jammer
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980325203859.00739a70@maila.wm.edu>
>>Jammerz -
Anyone in the NYC area looking for a Portnoy-ish drummer? I'm moving up
there on Sunday and am looking for a band, or just somebody to jam with.
A few people on ytsejam have seen me play and can vouch for me
(right?!?!?). Let's here Let me know!
I also like:
Faith No More, Type O Negative, Kyuss, Korn, Cypress Hill, Life Of Agony,
Fear Factory, Notorious BIG, and others...
Email me at pud@pud.com >>
Well, I am in the NYC area (well, in the summer, when I have vacation).
Sorry, can't help you though, I am no musician. Just wanted to say in
recognition of FNM, TON, LoA, SW-EET!!
Rock on.
Alex
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:10:26 -0800
From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Spirit of Radio (to Damon)
Message-ID: <3519B911.5565@pacbell.net>
Christopher R. Merlo the HERO! wrote:
>
> Second, and more importantly, I love metal, and just plain old hard rock (like VH and Tesla) way too much to not play them.
>
> So, I try to play a healthy mix of everything each week. I generally play
> something like 20% prog (like echolyn, Genesis, etc.), 30-40% prog-metal (like
> DT, Enchant), 20-30% straight metal (like Megadeth, Anthrax, and stuff), and
> the rest I fill up with what I simply think of as "good music," be it metal,
> prog, rock, whatever. Hence the VH, DL, and Tesla.
>
> So, don't worry that I'm selling prog short or anything. The goal all along
> was to play a mix of stuff, and promote my favorite bands. When I first
> started I knew how important it would be to support prog on my show, but after
> one or two DJ meetings, I realized that it's critical just to support *music*.
> Most of the shows on WCWM play some kind of electronic garbage or another,
> and I felt it was equally important to support the work of all rock musicians.
>
> Besides, I love 80s rock. I won't ever stop playing Mr. Big, Tesla,
> Whitesnake, or any of the great stuff I grew up on in high school. :)
YOU GO D!!!!!!!! Man is D-Man in side my head or what? You keep
playing that mix....lot's of people grew up on kick ass rock and roll!
Nice to hear SOMEBODY playing that again!
--Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/coldfire/gallery_of_shadows.html
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:16:14 -0600 (CST) From: AlisOn Wonderland <kym@eagle.cc.ukans.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Jason Becker Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95q.980325201506.25465C-100000@eagle.cc.ukans.edu>
I'm forced to admit my lameness here, *sulk* (AlisOn whispers: "who's Jason Becker?")
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:19:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ernesto Schnack <e_schnack@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: steve reich Message-ID: <19980326021927.27970.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com>
> > Just wondering if you've heard any of Steve Reich's pieces.
ah, Steve Reich, the only minimalist composer i've been able to get into. He has an awesome way of using polyrythms. I've only heard Tehilim and Desert Music, and they're both great.
Ern
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:26:40 EST From: "The time is near, it is clear to see......" To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: Jeremy Hyde's comments Message-ID: <009C3BBD.29FA7580.113@bigvax.alfred.edu>
sounds good! and, as for LTE, I'm still in the dark of what exactly it is! one of the drawbacks of attending a college of about 2,000 in a town where 90% of the population are at the college!
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:21:49 -0600 (CST) From: Pat Griffin <shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.980325202000.27161A-100000@devnull.cc.missouri.edu>
> From: Seth Hatlelid <srhatlel@artsci.wustl.edu> > Subject: Big Wreck In St. Louis, MM, Death, others
> Is anyone planning on going to the Big Wreck concert in St. Louis
Big Wreck in my home town? Time to clean the carbine and straighten the scope.
> From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> > Subject: Slash's Ryche
> No, no, no you did it all wrong. You give us the Jeopardy answer: > "The biggest musical joke ever played of all time"
"What is Disco?"
"No, I'm sorry, we're looking for something else. Contestant 3?"
"What is MTV?"
"Excellent guess, but I'm afraid it's still not ri --"
"What is a German band calling themselves 'Superior?'"
"Contestant 3, you are only allowed one guess. Security, please drag contestant 3 into the parking lot and beat him for making a joke at the expense of the German race. Contestant 1?"
"What is the 1980s?"
"No, I'm sorry, the correct response is 'Who is Yngwie?'"
> Okay follow this one > Derek Sherinian likes (loves) Marilyn Manson > "brain-deads" like Marilyn Manson > Therefore > Derek Sherinian is "brain-dead"
Nothing is better than sex. Masturbation is better than nothing. Therefore Masturbation is better than sex.
> From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> > Subject: The Dark Side of Aquarius? Where's *that*??
> And Derek's approval is supposed to mean something about the musical > integrity and/or quality? He played in *Kiss* for God's sake.
PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> From: FlatYer5s <FlatYer5s@aol.com> > Subject: asdf
> I would like to subscribe to ytsejam- I'd like my chosen user name to be > PRSBerklee. Thanks!
BERKLEE IS NO FUCKING GUARANTEE! Expecially if you don't send the message to ytsejam-request@ax.com like the instructions say... :P
h t t p : / / w w w . p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o / | Pat Griffin Reality Squared Design | | gabbo@dreamt.org shadow@devnull.cc.missouri.edu | h t t p : / / w w w .. p r o g n o s i s . c o m / g a b b o /
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:01:33 GMT From: trossier@ionet.net (Ted Rossier) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Saviour Machine Message-ID: <3519c40d.218209806@mail.ionet.net>
To any of you wanting to get hold of Saviour Machine, or any other Christian metal bands (like Believer, Mortification, etc.), the best source I have found is RadRockers. http://www.radrockers.com
A great bunch of folks with a lot of good music to sell.
I am not affiliated with them in any way, just have ordered a bunch of stuff from them, and the CDs usually arrive within 7-10 days, with very few backorders. They are currently taking advance orders for Legend Part II.
Ted
-- "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
-Edmund Burke
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:13:08 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Saviour Machine Message-ID: <199803260311.TAA00826@odin.ax.com>
I'll second what Dan Temmesfeld said about SM. I would suggest for anyone wanting SM merch. to try getting it from the band first. All products are excellent quality. Very professionally done. They are also scheduled to play the Cornerstone Festival again this year. I'll definitely be there.
DAle R. NEwberry
"As miserable as life is, I hold it pretty precious." -Henry Rollins
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:54:25 EST From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Jason Becker Message-ID: <798547fe.3519d173@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-25 21:47:29 EST, you write:
<< I'm forced to admit my lameness here, *sulk* (AlisOn whispers: "who's Jason Becker?") >>
just another awesome guitar player, that's all
the Rock
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:08:32 -0800 (PST) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: chroma key release date, fates vid Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980325200353.5556A-100000@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu>
in case it hasn't been mentioned, the new Chroma Key album is coming out June something. (i forgot the date) They are on Massacre records.
I am a little dissapointed with the fates video. The cameras aren't the most professional looking. I was also hoping for more songs and some back stage/tour footage. Cool nonetheless.
I also found some cool stuff at Rasputin's ( a used record store in Berkeley). I found BLIND GUARDIAN's 'Tales from the Twilight World' for $10, and STRATOVARIUS 'Visisons' brand new! I was very suprised to find both of them. I also got the new MAIDEN!
conrad
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:26:32 -0700 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Psychotic Watz Message-ID: <v01540b01b13f79fe8442@[205.134.227.33]>
Hi,
>>By the way has anyone out there heard a band called Psychotic Waltz? > >Yeah! I've got their all CD's except Bleeding which was available in >Poland only once ( a friend of mine bought it before I did - regards >Jakub, hi, hi ). No other discs! >PW is a great band, but I don't know what will be their future after >guitarist and drummer left the band. The best for me is their first CD 'A >Social Grace' - is very progressive, much more than next CD's. After the >second album they changed a style a little, but are still fantastic.
For me, "Into the Ever Flow" is my all time fev from all albums by Psychotic Waltz. It's the most progressive album they have ever done. The "Social Grace" is kinda heavy but it still has some nice tracks. "Mosquito" is out of control and "Bleeding" is another good one with heavy bass sounds. The first thing I like is Buddy Lucky's singing style. He's really a good singer though. PW did a song tribute to Jethro Tull called "I Remember", very cool. I heard that PW already disbanded and Buddy's doing his own solo project. If Buddy isn't in the band there is no Psychotic Waltz for me.
Regards, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:30:48 -0700 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: BRUFORD/LEVIN AND PROJEKT 2 ON MTV!!!!! Message-ID: <v01540b02b13f7c2906cd@[205.134.227.33]>
Daus Studenberg <daus@ufl.edu> wrote;
>OH MY GOD!!! I COULD NOT BELIEVE MY EYES THIS MORNING!!! > >After jogging this morning, I flipped on the MTV (eMpTyV) and saw the = >"Week in Rock". They talked about similarities between the Led Zeppelin = >tune, "Going California" and some new Pearl Jam song. HOWEVER, they = >ALSO mentioned about the additional similarity with the new = >Bruford/Levin album!! (Upper Extremities??). They played excerpts and = >talked about the tour!! In addition, they ALSO talked about PROJEKT = >2!!!! I could not believe it...PROG ON MTV!?!?!?! > >Did anyone else see this or could even believe it???!?!?!
This is unbelievable for me. And MTV should know that King Crimson fans hardly watch MTV.
Regards, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:40:46 -0700 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Black Light Syndrome/King Crimson Message-ID: <v01540b04b13f7d6b52a7@[205.134.227.33]>
Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> wrote;
>After hearing LTE, I wanted to hear more stuff from Mr. Levin. I saw in >the Magna Carta catalog the blurb about the Black Light Syndrome. I know >Levin and Bozzio and the real deal, but I don't really know much about >Steve Stevens except that he used to play with Billy Idol. How does he do >on this CD? Good, bad, should I get it? Also, where should one start >out in hearing Levin's best stuff with King Crimson? Thanks for your >help.
You may want to start with THRAK first to hear Levin stuff. If you like the sounds of the chapman stick (Levin) and the (8 & 12 strings) warr guitar (Trey Gunn). Please be warn that THRAK is from the double trio era, so there are 2 drummers, 2 guitarists and 2 bassists (Stick/Warr). So, it would be a little difficult to hear which one is played by Levin. Or you can start with Discipline. After you get used to this kind of sound, continue with THRaKaTTaK (all improvisation live).
Or...if you are interested ot get his own solo stuff, check out his papabear homepage at;
Have a good one, AE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Prog Maniac" homepage: http://www.sirius.com/~cluesump
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:44:57 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Roland Rupp: The New Shred Files Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980325224457.007b2e90@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
Well, for the people who didnt believed that Roland really played we recorded some audio files without any effects, editing or anything, just guitar, amp and computer and we directly recorded some improvisations, now you can download all the files at http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ which is the Shredder's Lair, that's the page of Roland and I...if you click on roland's picture you'll get his bio and some new audio miles (MP3) plus the old ones...we're currently working in making the old files to sound better. we hope you like this site and you all contribute with us, thanks. --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do your next." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:57:46 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@dijkstra.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Innocence Faded Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980326015649.999A-100000@dijkstra.linux.ime.usp.br>
On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Marcelo Vanzin wrote:
> > 2. Assuming DT is your favorite band, what band would you choose as your > > second favotite? > > Hmmm... Spice Girls??? :)
:-) Humm.... :-)
Seriously, Opeth.
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:15:29 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: jules.n.dessy@lineone.net Subject: Re: Jason Becker Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980325231529.007b6360@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
jason has his homepage now at http://www.jasonbecker.com
At 12:35 PM 25/03/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Hi, we are in the Uk and are very worried as we have not heard anything >about Jason Becker for some time. Can you spare a moment to tell us any >news/ give an alternative address. >My wife is also disabled and she idolises him. >jules.n.dessy@lineone.net > > --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do your next." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:16:06 -0800 From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT and Music Videos Message-ID: <01bd5876$475e75c0$891c15d1@markphil>
Jammers,
Well, I thought I'd put my 2 cents in for this one.
I unfortunately have only seen the full lenth videos of PMU, TTT, and AD from the Images and Words video. As I've heard there is a Silent Man and a Lie viedo for Awake, and they now have one for Hollow Years. I've only seen about 45 seconds of the Lie video in MOV format, so how much that counts, I don't know. Anyway...
I don't really care if the videos are not really great; especially for DT, I don't think that's really the point. I don't think they expect to get all that much air play, but anything they do get, more power (and fans) to them. However, I WISH they'd release another video like Images and Words in Japan. That is just the greatest thing to watch a live concert (that's done really well) and to see what they're videos are like. Just to see the guys in the video is enough, and hell, you like the music, the video lets you see what DT was kinda thinking when they wrote the long (what images they were seeing.)
BTW: While I don't watch eMpTyV or VH1 anymore, one of my favorite videos of all time is Another Day. It just really strikes a chord in me, and I love that.
And now that Mike Bahr is no longer doing videos, I don't know if I get to see any of that stuff. Actually....
If anyone has a good (ie. semi or real professional) video of an Awake or FII concert and/or has the Lie, Silent Man, and/or Hollow Years on tape, please e-mail me. I'd like to get a copy.
Mark
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