YTSEJAM Digest 3692
Today's Topics:
1) Al DiMeola
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3690
by "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
3) re: "Heavy Metal" origin
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
4) Re: Opening vs. Headlining
by Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu>
5) ATTN: George (Cleveland rocker)
by Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
6) DT boot auction
by Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
7) re: "Heavy Metal" origin
by Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
8) Re: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: New Queensryche guitarist
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
9) Re: Sorry. Can we still be friends?
by Portnoy420 <Portnoy420@aol.com>
10) Re: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: New Queensryche guitarist
by Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
11) RE: YTSEJAM digest 3691
by Dream Until Tomorrow Comes <BLE1383@cup.edu>
12) Re: Falling Into Infinity (fwd)
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
13) Dweezil Zappa/Mike Keneally
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
14) Re: Al DiMeola
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3689
by "Matt Halloran" <imemnok@hurricane.gnt.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3691
by Portnoy420 <Portnoy420@aol.com>
17) Fan abuse, Love me Baby, and Spunky roadtrips.
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
18) Another Bass Request
by Paul Drapeau <drapeau@cs.uri.edu>
19) DT in Texas...I wish!
by newcombr@netdot.com (Robert Newcomb)
20) Ticketmaster
by "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:15:35 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Al DiMeola
Message-ID: <001201bd5cfa$ea6af760$24c95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
>From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
>Subject: Chick Corea Elektric Band, was: Re: jazz
>
>I never could get into this album for whatever reason. I'm more in tune
>with his 70's work, in particular, "Elegant Gypsy", "Land of the Midnight
>Sun", and "Electric Rendezvous". If you've never heard his stuff before,
>you will be blown away by these, especially "Elegant Gypsy". Buy it now.
I heard DiMeola was great, so i picked up a CD of his at random -
Esplendido Hotel - and really liked it. Then I heard rave reviews about
Elegant Gypsy and everyone said that it was 'the' DiMeola cd, so i got
that, and it wasn't bad, but i didn't really like it as much as Esplendido
Hotel. Dunno why. But then, I listen to punk, so what do I know?
--Dan McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:35:10 -0500 From: "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3690 Message-ID: <199803312235.RAA11570@mailnfs0.tiac.net>
> Well, I think it's going to be just about as hard to grasp guitar > playing in Jazz as it would be to grasp horn players in jazz when you > recommend people who reharm songs as much as Stern does.
I disagree. I know that, for me at least, it's much easier to identify with a different type of music when the instrumentation is similar. Mike Stern even does quite a bit of distorted soloing and he cites as many rock players among his influences as jazz players. It's easier to connect to than a horn player playing the same notes.
> Stern is an > amazing technical player, and has great phrasing, but this album in > particular (which I love) is going to be a nightmare to follow if > you're not familiar with the originals of the covers he plays, or > can't find the implied underlying chord progression.
Following all the changes isn't something that's necessary to enjoy jazz music. It certainly helps however to know the changes if you're listening because you want to learn how to PLAY the music. But to truly appreciate the masters and to understand the music you would certainly need to start simple. However, it's not necessary to understand everything that's going on harmonically to just enjoy LISTENING to the music. The cool thing about playing jazz is the changes allow you to create interesting lines based on the direction that the tunes tonal center takes you. > See, this is the thing... there's a risk of people running out and > buying all the fusion stuff (Tribal Tech, TJ Kirk, Mahavishnu > Orchestra, etc which is great, and amazing, musically) and thinking > they're doing something for their jazz playing. It's just not like > that. You have to start at the basics, if you really want to have a > clue what's going on. You really have to get some standards (Jazz > tunes that everyone plays... "Standard Repetoire") and some early > recordings so you can see where the players have progressed, and > where they started from.
I agree, but I still see some fault with your logic. Jazz has just as many subgenres as any other type of music. Fusion is just one of those. You claim you have to start at the basics. But where is that? The bop of the 50's and 60's is probably no closer to the 3 minute big band pieces that Duke Ellington was doing in the 20's than Fusion is to bop. Jazz can even transcend the artist. Miles Davis, who's been at the head of most major jazz revolutions has done everything from traditional Charlie Parker bop to avante garde acid jazz to Bitches Brew, which was crazy fusion. Just because you buy his Kind of Blue doesn't mean you'll get Pangea.
Familiarizing yourself with a whole new genre takes time and you have to start somewhere. I think you need to start whatever you find yourself enjoying most. Somebody might buy some of those early recordings from the beginning of the century but find them too far removed from their current listening tastes. Whereas a rocker who buys a fusion record could find something to connect to and THEN see the jazz side of the music and get more into the traditional stuff at that point.
> Learning solos and melodies from > DiMeola and McLaughlin is not a whole lot more useful to you than > learning solos and melodies from Yngwie or Petrucci... > awesome and valuable technical workouts, and they may help you learn > how to move around the fretboard pretty quickly, but you're not going > to have a prayer when it comes down to playing standards.
"Useful"? Learning any artists music is as useful as you make it to be. I'm not too familiar with DiMeola, but I know McLaughlin has played over and written some pretty wacked out changes in his years. Also, many standards have fairly simple progressions....
Adam
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:25:55 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: campbell@dickinson.edu Subject: re: "Heavy Metal" origin Message-ID: <19980331212555.5945.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com>
"David M. Campbell" <campbell@dickinson.edu> wrote:
>Actually, the word "heavy metal" was first used by a >writer for the new >York Times in the mid/late 1960's. He was writing a >review of Jimi >Hendrix's first album, and described his sound as >"heavy metal being dropped from the sky."
I always thought the term "Heavy Metal" came from the Steppenwolf song "Born to be Wild." There's the line that says "heavy metal thunder". Of course that was refering to a motorcycle. Who knows?
BH
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:42:44 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Jeffrey McEuen <mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Opening vs. Headlining Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980331162720.9004B-100000@pollock.owlnet.rice.edu>
On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Portnoy420 wrote:
> HELLO?!?! > What do you think we've been doing for the past 6 months? > (or 6 years for that matter!!) > 2 hr. headlining sets & club shows...everywhere...over & over again > I think we've offered the entire world the opportunity to see us in that > setting...
I understand (and agree with) your desire to do something different, but the fact is you *haven't* offered the entire world the opportunity to see you do a headlining show. Specifically, the FII tour never came within several hundred miles of Texas. And those of us that are stuck here will feel a bit deprived if we only get to see a one-hour opening set instead of a two-hour headlining set (which the rest of the country has already seen).
Of course, you could fix this by including Texas in your May shows... :)
> see some of you at our 2 HR HEADLINING SHOWS this month.... : )
Sure - if we happen to be in Europe. Which you guys are currently visiting for the *third* time in a year or so.
grumble, grumble,
Mark McEuen mceuen@owlnet.rice.edu
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:47:04 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ATTN: George (Cleveland rocker) Message-ID: <199803312247.OAA05032@norway.it.earthlink.net>
George,
Please email me ASAP! I thought I had your email addy but I keep getting it returned.
Scott <skooc@earthlink.net>
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:48:58 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT boot auction Message-ID: <199803312248.OAA06608@norway.it.earthlink.net>
Hi!
I just got a bid for TDoE for $80. so that's the highest as of now.
Scott
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:03:58 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Johnston <matt2518@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: "Heavy Metal" origin Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980331150253.26228A-100000@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Brian Hansen wrote:
>I always thought the term "Heavy Metal" came from the Steppenwolf song >"Born to be Wild." There's the line that says "heavy metal thunder". >Of course that was refering to a motorcycle. Who knows? >
Oooh... good call... ^_^ How about Heart's "Barracuda?" Odd time sigs, palm-muting... cool lyrics, etc... first chick-metal (song)? ^_^
I had 2 cents to burn anyways...
--Matt
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:10:43 EST From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: New Queensryche guitarist Message-ID: <49a81efe.352177f5@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-31 18:09:01 EST, you write:
<< Dokken is hardly grunge ? >>
dokken is a worn out 80's singer and a guitar wanker
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:22:47 EST From: Portnoy420 <Portnoy420@aol.com> To: KEZCOM@aol.com Cc: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sorry. Can we still be friends? Message-ID: <5aea2653.35217aca@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-31 16:12:25 EST, you write:
<< Anyway, glad I could elicit a response, and thanks for the new asshole! >>
Hey dude, Don't sweat it!!!!! I mean no harm, I just want our side of the coin heard! Believe me, I prefer to be playing OUR full show to OUR audience, but we need to continue to develop our career in order to grow. (and most importantly for me - NOT at the expense of our real fan base... which I don't think we're doing in this case...)
Anyways, I'm always friends with our fans, so don't take it personally.....in fact... if I look hard enough in my archieves, I bet I can find a copy of that Jaxx show.. : )
Mike Portnoy
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:38:58 -0600 (CST) From: Robert Taylor <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: New Queensryche guitarist Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980331173746.13359A-100000@ux9.cso.uiuc.edu>
> NO he isn't, he produced Scott Rockenfield's side project and
Does anyone have this CD yet? I read about it on a few web sites and am interested in hearing some opinions about it.
-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_- | Robert Taylor The world may seem flown away | | rctaylor@uiuc.edu Almost as if it cannot be saved | | The Phoenix Will we be able to rise | | From these ashes we've sown | -~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:55:47 -0500 From: Dream Until Tomorrow Comes <BLE1383@cup.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 3691 Message-ID: <980331185547.20429b93@cup.edu>
Okay, there's no Dream Theater content here, but I just wanted to say that Dokken isn't grunge. I think that what he was saying (sorry, I don't remember the name) is that since Kelly Gray produced the latest Dokken album he was apt to lead Queensryche in the same direction (if it was indeed true that he was the new guitarist).
Anyway, if you listened to 'Shadowlife' is was very admittedly non-Dokken. I like the album, but it's really not their best effort. I hear their new one will be more like 'Tooth And Nail'.
Okay, I'm done now. have a good one.
Jason
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:57:17 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Falling Into Infinity (fwd) Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980303235717.007a14a0@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
>>I find this comment rather silly. Are you saying that DT is sounding like >>Metallica's Load? YIKES!Load in my opinion is a disgrace. Metallica is no >>longer >>speaking to the Hard Rock and Rollers, but >>to the teenage alternative crowds. Sad thing, this is where all the money is.
I dont think is all about money, I think is music evolution, now the music is louder and harder than it used to be, now the so called hard rock is called alternative, sometimes pop...the heavy metal that used to exist in the 80 is the hard rock of the 90's...Ive never been a metallica fan but I guess that's what happened to them...anyway everything evolutionates. --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do your next." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:55:08 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dweezil Zappa/Mike Keneally Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980304005508.007a3510@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
Are there any Dweezil Zappa or Mike Keneally fans? please let me know, I want to trasncribe some songs for my site, maybe someone can help me, pleae email me privately. --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do your next." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:24:28 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Al DiMeola Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980331192117.20188A-100000@viking.cris.com>
TheCowGod wrote:
> I heard DiMeola was great, so i picked up a CD of his at random - > Esplendido Hotel - and really liked it. Then I heard rave reviews about > Elegant Gypsy and everyone said that it was 'the' DiMeola cd, so i got > that, and it wasn't bad, but i didn't really like it as much as Esplendido > Hotel. Dunno why. But then, I listen to punk, so what do I know?
Well this is interesting. I have yet to hear Esplendido Hotel, so I too may like it better. Thanks for mentioning it. But then, I listen to techno, so what do I know? :)
Rick Audet
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:40:08 -0400 From: "Matt Halloran" <imemnok@hurricane.gnt.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3689 Message-ID: <199804010044.SAA29270@hurricane.gnt.net>
> > Please learn your background information before you make comparisons. > Coltrane is one of the hardest working and most talented musicians to ever > LIVE. Read his biography some time. I've never even heard the DMB sax > player but I can ASSURE you he is nowhere near the virtuosity and > musicianship that is John Coltrane. Pick up the cd Giant Steps sometime and > mabye you begin to get an understanding of how much work goes into making > that kind of music.
Okay hold it a minute, you've never heard The Sax player for DMB and yet you in your omniscient wisdom have come to the conclusion that he is no where near as good as Coltrane. That would be the equivalent of me making the statement that I have never heard Steve Morse but I can guarantee that he isn't as good as Petrucci. Now I have heard the Sax player for DMB and, yes he is no Coltrane, but I can make that statement as I am educated as the the playing of both artists. It is not wise to make statements like the one above without checking the whole story out. Next time you want to cut on something make sure you know what it is you are talking about. Sorry that just annoys the shit out of me when people make general statements like that.
For Jazz why don't you check out some Django Reinhart. I would consider that to be pretty pure jazz.
Flexable came out in 1983, ya see Vai has been around as long as the yngster. Speaking of Vai there is a good interview with him, and you can link to it by going to his site www.vai.com. In reading the interview I found out that Prince covered Steve's song Tender Surrender, ain't that a trip. Also Vai will be playing on Greg Bissonette's solo album on Shrapnel. Gilbert and some others from the eighties hall of fame will also be guesting.
Matt Halloran imemnok@gnt.net "Chocolate chip cookies make good sunglasses when the sun shines through the glass door of tomorrows sunrise."
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:55:19 EST From: Portnoy420 <Portnoy420@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3691 Message-ID: <f61fa18.35219079@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-31 17:14:55 EST, you write:
<< Nothing in Texas!!! or anywhere close for that matter. Unlike most of the rest of the country (esp the East Coast!!!) we haven't had the opportunity to see you guys since the Awake tour !!!! >>
HHMMMMM... What will the bringer of DT tour dates deliver in a few days??????? (hopefully...) MP
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:54:13 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fan abuse, Love me Baby, and Spunky roadtrips. Message-ID: <01bd5d11$11f5f1c0$280d84d0@safelink.safelink.net>
>Hi, this is my first E-Mail on this list. I'm from Canari Island, in >Spain. I play drums, and i have a very big fan of Mike Prtnoy and Dream >Theater.
Where do you keep him? Tied up in the closet?
<font style="ransom"> AnD I WAnT $50o aNd A sIX pAcK of PEPsI oR i TAkE HiM OUt! p.S. hE WaNtS a qUarTeR POunDeR AnD 2o PieCe chiCKeN NuGgETs, tOO. </font>
>No reply to my steamy, sexxxy message yet? :(
Dammit! I told you to keep this off the jam! *blush*
>What will the bringer of DT tour dates deliver in a few days??????? >(hopefully...)
I hope you headline in Salt Lake City. No offense, but it's almost not worth my while to drive 180 miles for a one hour show. Now if you play at the Saltaire again... =)
--KorgX3 hates living in buttville. (I know, I could always move)
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:04:19 -0500 From: Paul Drapeau <drapeau@cs.uri.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Another Bass Request Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980401020419.0069eafc@cs.uri.edu>
Hello Again,
I have another request for bass tabs/sheet music... Does anyone out there have the music for "Voices"... Or even have any little pieces of it figured out... I will be greatful for whatever you can provide...
Thanks Again... -Paul
BTW: Thanks to all the people that have helped me with my other requests!
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:07:06 -0600 From: newcombr@netdot.com (Robert Newcomb) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT in Texas...I wish! Message-ID: <19980401022830613.AAA148@newcombr.netdot.com>
I understand that bands tend to tour more around the area they live or have their bigger fan bases but this sucks! I was wondering how long has it been since DT has been to Texas or anywhere in the South for that matter? I mean it's not like we are a bunch of sheep fucking rednecks...well not all of us.
Thorin
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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:36:42 -0500 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ticketmaster Message-ID: <000f01bd5d17$1bbc5400$c95a6acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
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To whomever said it first, I applaud you. The main reason why I dispise = large venues is the crappy seats that we the fans tend to end up getting = because the large corporations and ticketmaster crap get the good stuff. = My first concert, Rush on the first set of the TFE tour, I was in the = nosebleed section of the Corestates Center in Philly. Really a lot of = the energy was lost all the way up there.. The ticketmaster dude who = sold me my tickets did't even know who Rush was... Ignorant bastard. = Then came my birthday when I saw Rush outdoors at the E-Centre in = Camden. Again, the best I could do were lawn seats... I couldn't see = Neil behind those drums! Reliance on the video screens was an absolute = must. Fortunately, the music was great and the weather was perfect = which allowed for me to get more into it all. Still though....I could = obviously tell that those people up at the front were having an absolute = blast whereas I was just getting by. =20
My point is. Screw ticketmaster. Screw the radio stations. If you = must play large venues (make sure they're outdoors!) have some way for = us, the true fans of god incarnate, to obtain *good* tickets. No matter = how many connections I may have, which believe it or not, is quite a = bit, I still find/found it hard to get decent tickets to any large = venue. Something on the medium size of things, its a piece of cake.. = But its too much of a pain. Yes I would see DT even if my = seats/standing room sucked, but, there would be no possible way that it = could compare to the Dec. 14th show at the TLA. (Im still = hyperventiliating!!!) Well... I've done my ticketmaster bashing for = the day. I'm done now. =20
Scott Sturdivant ckssrs@axiomet.com *flame me, c'mon!*
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