YTSEJAM Digest 3829
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT unplugged?
by Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
2) Re:Bass Players
by "Matt Halloran" <imemnok@hurricane.gnt.net>
3) Birch Hell info
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
4) RE: YTSEJAM digest 3827
by Dream Until Tomorrow Comes <BLE1383@cup.edu>
5) Philly on Saturday / Paper due Friday
by Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net>
6) LTE: AOL chat.....So THERE
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
7) Taps
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
8) Re: Legato - what the heck is it? New possible thread?
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
9) Re: Purple Boots Made for Listening? (NDTC)
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3826
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
11) Moon Zappa Interview 1
by "Al Anet" <my_mistake@hotmail.com>
12) Re: Purple Boots Made for Listening? (NDTC)
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
13) Re: Two-Handed Tapping Guitarists
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
14) Re: JP video (cont'd)
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
15)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:57:50 -0400
From: Chris Calabrese <ccalabr1@ic3.ithaca.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT unplugged?
Message-ID: <354BDD2E.6577190@ic3.ithaca.edu>
> On a more serious note...what if DT made a video for New Millennium,
it became
> a hit (which I think is very possible), and they did an MTV Unplugged
special?
> What songs would you want them to play? Why?
Well...if they ever did an MTV unplugged...which is impossible, these
are the songs I'd want them to play:
To Live Forever
Wait For Sleep
Take Away My Pain
Hollow Years
The Silent Man
Eve
Another Day
Long Island Expressway
Also, NM will never be a radio hit. Dream Theater is not commercial
music in its truest sense. Maybe us, as DT fans love the song, but your
average jerk-off American doesn't...and that's the bottom line. No one
wants to hear an 8 minute prog-metal song. And MTV knows that and the
radio knows it. So it's not gonna happen! Maybe 20 years ago...maybe
10 years ago...but it won't happen now, so give up on it dude!
~Chris
-- Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools.- King Crimson
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 22:56:58 -0300 From: "Matt Halloran" <imemnok@hurricane.gnt.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re:Bass Players Message-ID: <001101bd7636$cad7e520$704431cc@imemnok.gnt.net>
>So, I'm interested in the opinions of everybody (bassists, other musicians,
>non-musicians) on what makes a bass player good, and how, if at all, they may >be compared.
Well I think it is common knowledge. The thing that makes any musician regardless of the instrument they play, be it Bass, guitar, drums, or even bagpipes, is how fast they are. Speed is the only thing that makes a musician good. If they can't shred they should burn their instrument and take up needlepoint. Skakespeare once asked 'To shred or not to Shred, that is the question.' Well I think we all know the answer to that question.
Back to my needlepoint, I am making a teddy bear doily for my Uncle Nester.
Matt Halloran 'Jimmie cracked corn...and you know what, I don't give a Rat's ass.'
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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 00:06:05 -0400 From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Birch Hell info Message-ID: <354BED2B.A286A0B4@seacoast.com>
Anyone know the deal with tickets for the May 7 show at the Birch Hill, I just checked the Ticketbastard site and they don't have it listed, though they do have all other Birch hill shows listed. Can you just call Ticketmaster? I'll be driving down from NH with my two pals from Maine, since we.ve already got tickets for the Irving Plaza show, we figured we'd make a two day "event" out of it.
Thanks,
Bob
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 0:31:36 -0400 From: Dream Until Tomorrow Comes <BLE1383@cup.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 3827 Message-ID: <980503003136.204ab302@cup.edu>
No Dream Theater content here, but those of you that saw VH on MTV's 10 spot last night, did anyone else besides me think Gary Cherone acted like a fruit? (I know there was already some anti-gay thing on here or something, but I'm just telling ya what I thought). He pranced around just a little too gracefully for me. I dunno...makes me wonder. He looked like he had ballet lessons or something. Make your own assumptions, but I think he looked like a fruit.
Jason
|-------------------------------------------------| |Visit my site: http://www.bigfoot.com/~gol10der | | | |"We can learn from the past, | |But those days are gone. | |We can hope for the future, | |But there might not be one." | | --Dream Theater "A Change Of Seasons" | |ICQ#: 10123484 | |-------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 00:24:58 -0400 From: Brian Larkin <ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Philly on Saturday / Paper due Friday Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980503002458.0074b1b8@postoffice.ptd.net>
Okay, it turns out I'm going to the show this Saturday with . . . my dad. I've played DT for him before, and he's *sort of* into them, and he is buying a ticket for himself, but the main reason he's giving up the night is to give me a ride to the show I so desperately want to be at. How cool is *that*??
If there's any kind of pre-/post-show gatherings going on, I'd like to know when and where, even though there's a chance I'll only be there for the show. It'd be cool to meet up with some 'jammers, even during the show. Kindly let me know what's up.
Lastly, if anyone knows of any links to DT article transcriptions besides the ones at UACM and rsabbs, especially the Metal Edge articles, or if anyone wouldn't mind photocopying one or two - the fanzine would be really cool, my research paper on DT is due this FRIDAY. I have it mostly written, but could always use a few more sources, especially considering that 90% of the ones I have are from the Net. Someone mentioned the Gilbratar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock . . . I could definitely use some help here, and it would be *much* appreciated. Thanx in advance.
That's all for now. Can't wait for the 9th!!!!
Brian NP - DT - Awake (I hope they play "Scarred"!)
+=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-+ | Brian Larkin - ambicwts@postoffice.ptd.net | | "Withdrawn and introverted, infectiously | | perverted / Being laughed at and confused | | keeps us pleasantly amused enough to stay" | | - John Petrucci | +=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-=~=-+
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 00:44:23 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LTE: AOL chat.....So THERE Message-ID: <56a8576a.354bf628@aol.com>
just pulled this from the AOL DT message board:
5/28/98 - Portnoy and Petrucci Time T.B.A. Mike and John will chat with us about Liquid Tension Experiment, their new project with Tony Levin and Jordan Rudess. Tony Levin may be there as well. This chat was JUST booked so there will be more info on it to follow.
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Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 00:45:42 -0400 From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Taps Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980503004542.0068fee8@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Jeff inquired: > Any of you out there know of any other brilliant two-hand tappers besides >Eddie Van Halen (who did NOT invent the technique, contrary to popular belief) >and the aforementioned Stanley Jordan? I'd mention the likes of Michael >Manring, Stuart Hamm and John Alderete, but they're *bass* players, and that's >a whole other thread... <grin>
Jeff Watson. The eight-finger tapping thing is practically his signature move.
Also, if you're into acoustic stuff, Billy McLaughlin and (RIP) Michael Hedges.
Ta, Phil
========================================================= Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter "Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired, gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals Currently playing: Vinnie Moore -- "Meltdown"
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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:23:43 -0700 From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Legato - what the heck is it? New possible thread? Message-ID: <354BFF5F.1F74@pacbell.net>
Richard Karsmakers wrote: > > I read about JP doing a legato thing in Trial of Tears and it sounding > like Steve Vai. What is legato?
<snip> okay I will post my smart ass answer. Legato is: Legato Systems, Inc., a software company located in Palo Alto California. Their flagship product is NetWorker and it is a back up and restore software for networks and enterprise systems. Steady and Sustaining. How do I know this? I work there!
Okay time for me to quit being a smart ass and let the real musicians and shred heads post the real answer to your question!
Toodles.....back to the Shadows I go........ --
Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 01:42:35 EDT From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com, kwmadden@pipeline.com Subject: Re: Purple Boots Made for Listening? (NDTC) Message-ID: <3af775a2.354c03cc@aol.com>
the CD you're talking about is called "Live at the Olympia '96". It is indeed an "Official Bootleg", the band endorsed it, and it is on EMI/Thames records. The sound quality is that of an official "Live Album". And $29 isn't bad, I paid $36. It's worth it.
Art
www.joestump.com
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 01:54:12 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3826 Message-ID: <f025f240.354c0685@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-03 01:27:56 EDT, you write:
<< In a message dated 98-05-02 11:11:25 EDT, you write: << 14) Re: DT stuff for sale by The iban <Theiban@aol.com> >> What sort of stuff do you have? Mostly pertaining to Mike Portnoy. >>
um.... i WISH i had some good DT stuff, it wouldnt be for sale if i did.. read the whole post next time before replying
ROcky
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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:58:56 PDT From: "Al Anet" <my_mistake@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Moon Zappa Interview 1 Message-ID: <19980503055904.354.qmail@hotmail.com>
First Person: Confessions of a Metal Head
(Moon Unit Zappa, daughter of legendary rock pioneer Frank Zappa, recalls how a teenage crush on Jon Bon Jovi led her to become a heavy-metal head banger.)
We had two rules growing up in my house: 1. If you're going to take a shower, do it with whomever you're dating so you don't waste water; and 2. If you buy one for yourself, buy six, because chances are everybody's going to want one. The first rule traumatized me because I used the bathroom right next to my parents' room, so I didn't date much, and the second one, well, I was the only one who followed it, so it wasn't exactly a two-way street. Needless to say, it occurred to me when I was old enough to make rules of my own that they should be fair and simple. Mine was, If the Bon Jovi video with Jon walking down the street singing "She don't even know my name" came on, I was to be notified at once. Since it was the only rule I had, I wanted strictest attention paid to its enforcement.
You see, I knew Jon Bon Jovi was mine. How did I know? He wore a little crescent moon around his neck, which could be seen quite clearly in the video. So it was only a matter of time.
Up until seeing Jon on the tube, I had spent most of my life locked in my bedroom, miserable about my raging acne and "friend" label with the guys at school. In those days if you didn't have a concave stomach while lying flat on your back at the beach (so you could see your pubic hair in your bathing-suit bottoms), you just weren't noticed. My dad's music had made me shy, almost repressed about my own anatomy, with his lyrics about ramming things up poop chutes and shooting too quick -- this, from my dad! He was so open creatively that I was off in search of black turtleneck bathing suits with long sleeves.
"Valley Girl," the song my father and I did together in 1982, made me feel like a sad zoo specimen. Going through puberty in front of the world on shows like Solid Gold and Merv Griffin only added to my self-consciousness. But Jon lifted me out of all this. I felt uninhibited, unbridled lust for him. My attention became focused on the love I felt coursing through my veins. Who cared if my legs touched at the top? That's when I started perusing magazines like _Kerrang!_ and _Circus_ for clues to meeting my dream man. I was studying photos of him backstage at Ratt shows and Mötley Crüe gigs when it dawned on me. Start going to rock concerts! Hang out backstage!
My brother Dweezil was already into metal and had been trying to got me interested in Van Halen, Def Leppard and Ozzy for years. He is two years younger than I am, so that was reason enough to reject his worldview. But now I had a purpose! By day I dreamed up ways to make Jon mine by using some elementary witchcraft: writing my name in cursive with "Bon Jovi" as my new last name, dripping candle wax on the curling j's and n's, and burning the edges of the page to make it look like something out of medieval times while reciting made-up virginal incantations. By night, Dweezil and I would go as far as Irvine to see shows: Aerosmith, Mötley Crüe, Ratt ... no sign of Jon anywhere ... Dokken, Rough Cutt ... hey, that guitar player is kind of cute ... No, stay focused! I would think. Stay close to the Implants; they must know something because they keep getting asked into the inner chambers backstage.
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 01:13:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Purple Boots Made for Listening? (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980503010955.18716B-100000@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
No, this Deep Purple official bootleg release is definetly not crrrrap! I was very lucky when i bought this cd. The store priced the cd as it contained only one cd, since the jewel box doesnt indicate "2CD", and the jerks didnt even bothered reading the songlist. These cd s have mucho Morse magic, and the sound is, well, excellent! It is NOT a bootleg at all. I heard that it was just going to be sold in Europe though.
Mauricio
On Sat, 2 May 1998, Kevin Madden wrote:
> > > ]From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> > Subject: Deep Purple (NDTC) > > I was browsing the cds at Circuit City yesterday, and > I saw a DP live 2cd set labelled as "official bootleg" > live 96 from the Purpendicular tour. Does anyone have > this? How is the sound. It didn't look like a real > boot, but who can tell. CC doesn't usually traffic > in illegal merch, so I think it's legit. I would love > to hear material from any tour Morse played on, so > someone gimme the scoop. The discs were about 29 US > for the set, so I want to make sure it's not crrrrrrap! > before I fork over da funds. > > /me gets into the car to go to Atlantic City... > > Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> > > Detroit Red Wings 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions > First Round of the Playoffs vs. Phoenix Coyotes > > Game One: Detroit - 6 Phoenix - 3 > Game Two: Phoenix - 7 Detroit - 4 > Game Three: Phoenix - 3 Detroit - 2 > Game Four: Detroit - 4 Phoenix - 2 > Game Five: Detroit - 3 Phoenix - 1 > Game Six: Detroit at Phoenix, 3pm, Sunday, FOX > > > > > >
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 01:25:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Two-Handed Tapping Guitarists Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980503011743.18716C-100000@academ04.mty.itesm.mx>
I went to a Jennifer Batten clinic here in Monterrey like 2 or 3 years=20 ago. She plays GREAT, altough, i think she is very based on effects and=20 that damn whammt pedal. By the time i saw her play, i had never heard her= =20 solo stuff, but i had a lot of columns from various Guitar Player mags,=20 and that tapping stuff was like VERY hard to do. She never did anything=20 REMOTELY as hard or complicated as her damn tapping columns. On the=20 tapping subject i was VERY dissappointed, =B4cause she didnt tap anything= =20 on the guitar, (ok, maybe some very simple "pentatonic" tapping) but not=20 those complicated lines and progressions she wrote about all the time in=20 her columns. Well, she=B4s the best female guitar player i have EVER seen in my life=20 (and she kicks a lot of male guitarist=B4s butts too!), and i was honored= =20 to see her play almost all of her album (cant remember which) with some=20 tracks backing her up.
Mauricio
On Sat, 2 May 1998, Alan Estrada wrote:
>=20 > Try Jennifer Batten >=20 > > All this talk about Stanley Jordan brings to mind two vastly differen= t yet > >incredibly brilliant practitioners of the two-handed tapping technique: = Reb > >Beach -- yeah, the guy who used to be in those goofy Winger videos --=20 >=20 >=20
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 01:36:09 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: JP video (cont'd) Message-ID: <199805030636.BAA90978@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
At 10:50 PM 2/05/98 -0700, Joe DeAngelo wrote: > >James, thanks for the info on the JP video. > >But what I would like to know is....... > >1. Is $50 about the going rate, or is Guitar Center totally raping >people on this? >
you better dont buy it there if they rape people.... stay away from guitar center...the musical raping store --- Alan Estrada Adler http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/2025 "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do your next." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx http://members.xoom.com/Petrucci/
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Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 03:08:04 -0400 From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <v01540b00b171c4db2f8c@[128.197.9.102]>
Since it seems like everybody else does this and no one minds, I'd like to enlighten everyone with the playlist of my radio show this Saturday night/Sunday morning. It's the last show of the semester, so don't worry about seeing a lot more of these. How good/bad/indifferent/thematically coherent/ does it appear? I'm even saving bandwidth by not giving each song its own line. *These two were provided by my intern, who would have provided more if he hadn't left early.
"Best I Can," Queensryche, "Old Man Wise," Union, "Love (I Don't Need it Anymore)," Union, "Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love,"* Van Halen, "Summer Nights," Van Halen, "Fire in the Hole," Van Halen, "Voodoo Child (Slight Return),"* Jimi Hendrix, "Mission," Rush, "Lifting Shadows off a Dream," Dream Theater, "Violin Song," Phantom Blue, "Going Mad," Phantom Blue, "The Educated Fool," Iron Maiden, "Family Tree," Megadeth, "Blackjack Guillotine," Savatage, "Creatures of the Night," Kiss, "State of Grace," Liquid Tension Experiment, "Firth of Fifth," Genesis, "Honey Pie," The Beatles, "Stop in Nevada," Billy Joel, "Cowboy Song," Thin Lizzy, "The Boys are Back in Town," Thin Lizzy, "The Calling," Yes, "The Angel and the Gambler," Iron Maiden, "Hollow Years," Dream Theater, "The Stretch," Liquid Tension Experiment, "Resist," Rush, "Perpetual Change," Yes, "Turn it On Again," Genesis
A few notes: Iron Maiden's _Virtual XI_ is acutally part of the station's current rotation, which is why I have access to it. A few others above are from the station's library or current rotation, but I own all of them myself except "The Calling." "Perpetual Change" is the live _Yessongs_ version, and the two Thin Lizzy tracks are from _Live and Dangerous_, not the studio counterparts. Incidentally, the Phantom Blue tracks are also live, not that anyone cares.
Jeff Falk jefffalk@bu.edu
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