YTSEJAM digest 3827

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Sat May 02 1998 - 23:20:54 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3827

    Today's Topics:

      1) Angra
     by "James Bennett" <rycher@thegrid.net>
      2) Steelheart
     by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
      3) Re: Hummm...
     by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
      4) Re: ELP
     by AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
      5) the tangled web that is portnoy
     by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
      6) Two-Handed Tapping Guitarists
     by AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com>
      7) Re: Rogerio
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
      8) Re: free EMPTY TREMOR promo tapes
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
      9) re: EMPTY TREMOR free tape
     by Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE>
     10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3824
     by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
     11) Majesty Stickers
     by Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com>
     12) Attention: Daytona's 'Jammers: May 5th
     by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
     13) Re: Nuno
     by Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net>
     14) Legato - what the heck is it? New possible thread?
     by Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
     15) PROG-O-RAMA fuck-up!
     by Mats "Rydstr?m" <rydstrom@rocketmail.com>
     16) Re: Re: Kirk/Slayer
     by Music707 <Music707@aol.com>
     17) Dream Theater Gigs in Los. Angeles !!
     by 042432212-0001@t-online.de (Henning Brunkhorst)
     18) Purple Boots Made for Listening? (NDTC)
     by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
     19) DP/DT/ELP @ Finger Lakes PAC on 8/14
     by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
     20) Hedges/Petrucci video
     by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>

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    Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 19:28:39 -0700
    From: "James Bennett" <rycher@thegrid.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Angra
    Message-ID: <000201bd7572$04682ea0$7f16a2d1@james>

    I've been listening to the MP3s Dr Mosh has on his page of this great band.
    Does anyone know if $25 dollars is about the going price for Holy Land?
    (since it's an import?) Thats what CD Now has it for. From the songs I
    heard, it would be well worth it but I don't wanna pay more than I have
    to....

    James

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    Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 22:29:54 -0400 (EDT)
    From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Steelheart
    Message-ID: <199805020229.WAA28128@osfn.org>

    Hi,
     
            I was wondering if anyone has any information on the band
    "Steelheart" .. where/are they popular?
     
    Thanks,
     
            Dan

    --
    Dan Abosso, al682@osfn.org                       "Beware the savage jaw."
    member: US Communist Party, International Socialist Organization
    "History teaches us that people have never learnt anything from history."
    - Hegel
    

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    Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 12:48:28 +1000 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Hummm... Message-ID: <354A897C.6D3059C1@sydney.net>

    Paul Gregory Humm wrote: > I hope you're kidding. You're one of the few people whose > posts I always read, because you almost always have something > worthwhile to say. If you're serious about this, then I hope you'll > at least come back soon.

    er if Roger did unsub already, don't ya think it's pointless sending this message to the list ?

    graham

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    Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 22:57:46 EDT From: AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ELP Message-ID: <6c6ba60f.354a8bab@aol.com>

    Attention all planets of the Jammer federation:

    In YTSEJAM Digest #3824, a musically hungry soul known as George Tryfonas <gt4@ukc.ac.uk> writes:

    << I'm looking for a good Emerson, Lake & Palmer album but since I've only gotten into them recently, I wouldn't know where to start. I've already got "Tarkus" and "Pictures at an Exhibition" which are awsome. Can anybody suggest which album to buy next? >>

    Three words: "Brain Salad Surgery." One word after that: "Trilogy." A whole bunch of words after that: "Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends: Ladies and Gentlemen, Emerson, Lake and Palmer."

    Now go out and get 'em.

    -- the unusually concise Jeff :^)

    NP: "Panama" -- Van Halen, "Live at the 10 Spot," on MTV right now!

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    Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 23:04:43 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: the tangled web that is portnoy Message-ID: <01IWJB8OF2NW0006A2@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>

    Date sent: 1-MAY-1998 22:58:33

    >p.s.: a friend of mine says that his co-worker is...get this...Mike >P.'s COUSIN!! how f**king awesome is that? and he (my friend, not his

    Wow, that's almost as cool as running into marlene portnoy in a pet food store. like that would happen.

    never gonna happen.

    Nope.

    Ok, it happened to me, but that doesn't mean it'll happen again.

    But it could.

    probably won't, though.

    But it could.

    I think I'll go have some cheese.

    josh

    ............................................................ mailto: rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!

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    Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 23:39:18 EDT From: AURACLE <AURACLE@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Two-Handed Tapping Guitarists Message-ID: <5093f95b.354a9567@aol.com>

    Attention all planets of the Jammer Federation...

    All this talk about Stanley Jordan brings to mind two vastly different yet incredibly brilliant practitioners of the two-handed tapping technique: Reb Beach -- yeah, the guy who used to be in those goofy Winger videos -- and T.J. Helmerich, who's made two amazing (mostly instrumental) albums with an Australian six-string phenomenon named Brett Garsed (the latter would probably rather you forget that he was in *Nelson*, of all bands). IMO, Reb Beach and Rod Morgenstein were the only reasons Winger was ever halfway listenable; the former's solos are so breathtaking that I often find myself fast-forwarding through those big, hooky choruses just to hear those tapped cascades and flurries of notes, so crystalline and smooth, so elegant in the way they flow off the fretboard. Perfect example: "Seventeen," which is a big, dumb brute of an MTV video song, all swaggering, macho lyrics, singalong chorus and huge snare sound -- then Beach unleashes one of the most devastating solos I've ever heard, notes swarming like angry, frenzied bees, spinning and swirling from the speakers in a torrent of virtuosity. Meanwhile, T.J. Helmerich's searing two-handed work with Brett Garsed is probably the most amazing tapping stuff I've ever heard; to my ear, it sounds as though he never, ever picks a note. His solos are like liquid mercury, all curves and circles, contrasting beautifully with Garsed's frenetic, angular speed-picking runs. No one I've heard has a smoother, more articulated tapping style than Helmerich, and that's why I rank him as one of the top five or six guitarists on the planet. (Hmm...Holdsworth, Vai, Morse, Petrucci, Lane, Greg Howe and Helmerich...that sounds about right...) Any of you out there know of any other brilliant two-hand tappers besides Eddie Van Halen (who did NOT invent the technique, contrary to popular belief) and the aforementioned Stanley Jordan? I'd mention the likes of Michael Manring, Stuart Hamm and John Alderete, but they're *bass* players, and that's a whole other thread... <grin>

    -- Jeff (making up for his much more concise ELP post) :^)

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 00:44:40 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rogerio Message-ID: <9411fa6d.354aa4b9@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-05-01 23:00:49 EDT, you write:

    << > To whom it may concern: I'm unsubscribing from this list. > > []s, Roger... I hope you're kidding. You're one of the few people whose posts I always read, because you almost always have something worthwhile to say. If you're serious about this, then I hope you'll at least come back soon. Paul >>

    Ditto, here, Paul. Come back soon, Roger!

    Kez

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 00:49:43 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: free EMPTY TREMOR promo tapes Message-ID: <f81d4a71.354aa5e8@aol.com>

    In a message dated 98-05-01 23:09:52 EDT, Arash wrote:

    << NP : Spock's Beard - The Kindness Of Strangers Arash >>

    I just ordered this from Music Blvd. with the $15 discount. $6.98 total, for the import version. I know, I know, it's being released in the U.S in 18 days, but I couldn't wait any longer. Hope Music Blvd. doesn't screw me with backorders........

    Kez

    NP: DT- FII( warming up for May 5th!)

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    Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 07:22:55 -0700 From: Arash Ashouriha <ashouria@FH-Niederrhein.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: EMPTY TREMOR free tape Message-ID: <354B2C3F.E9C@kr.fh-niederrhein.de>

    >Im from Mexico and I got the tape just yesterday, it is great...I would like >to thank danielle and the guys on empty tremor....

    >the thing i dont get is why do they tape so many complete songs? >they should tape one or 2 complete songs and then bits of the others... >I know they want to get some exposure but I guess they would like to sell >some albums too....

    Well, I have the same opinion, but these guys are just TOO NICE ;-) They will pay all the costs of making these tapes by their self, just to present you their awesome music.

    Don't forget that, as far as I know, there are still 3 kick ass songs on APOCOLOKYNTOSYS which aren't on the demo tape.

    >anyway, thanks for the tape, I'll get the CDs as soon as is distributed on >the US.

    It depens on MAGNA CARTA and if they will release it in America or not. You can help Empty Tremor and send a good recomandation to Magna Carta and request the realese of the album for North and South America.

    Btw, the Fan Club site has been update with more ET news.

    NP : Spock's Beard - The Kindness Of Strangers

    Arash -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | PROG OR DIE - The Progressive Music Page | | | | DREAM THEATER - FATES WARNING - ROYAL HUNT - SHADOW GALLERY | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1748/ | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | The Eyes Of Universe - The Official EMPTY TREMOR Fan Club Site | | | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/1794/ | | | | by Arash and Arman Ashouriha email: ashouria@kr.fh-niederrhein.de | --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 02:31:50 -0400 From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3824 Message-ID: <v01540b00b1706e11f962@[128.197.9.104]>

    >Also: Thanks to Kez for being the only jammer to reply to >my Set List/Compilation plea a few weeks ago...the rest were >probably too busy discussing grammar/dwarfs/non DTC stuff... I must have missed this. I'm sure a few of you know how interested I am in this sort of thing. Please repost it, because if it's anything like what it seems, it would be a mistake to let this go.

    Jeff Falk jefffalk@bu.edu

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 02:40:53 EDT From: Uroborosss <Uroborosss@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Majesty Stickers Message-ID: <9963b19e.354abff6@aol.com>

    Long ago, in a Ytsecon far, far away, a man named Trey Allen crafted some large Majesty-logo decals that were made of thin, clear adhesive paper. The logos came in red, black, and a few other colors. Does anyone know if it's still possible to get a black one? Or one of any color for that matter? Has someone else made Majesty stickers that were of the size and quality of Trey's since then? 3x5" I think.

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 03:30:04 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Uroborosss@aol.com, BlevinsM@amsc.belvoir.army.mil, CAFE721@aol.com, Subject: Attention: Daytona's 'Jammers: May 5th Message-ID: <a5487b10.354acb7d@aol.com>

    Hi all,

    Well, it looks like the consensus is McDonald's across the street from the club. Be there whenever you can, but be aware that doors open at 8, and I, as well as others, will be going straight to the front. Plan on a late night, as a meet with the band after the show is our goal. Well, mine anyway :~)

    The phone for Daytona's is 410-255-5533

    The directions are as follows(from I-95):

    Take the Route 100 east exit(toward Glen Burnie) from 95. Follow all signs CAREFULLY to stay on Route 100(toward Gibson Island). After crossing Route 10, take Edwin Rainer Blvd. exit(2nd exit after Route 10). Take a right at top of ramp onto Edwin Rainer Blvd. Continue on until Edwin Rainer Blvd. dead-ends into Fort Smallwood Road(at a stoplight). Turn left onto Fort Smallwood Road. Go approximately 1 mile(through 2 lights) and at the third light, Daytona's should be on your right, McDonald's should be on your left. Turn right at light and park behind the club, then stroll over to McD's to meet the rest of the gang! Good luck and BE CAREFUL!

    If further info is needed, e-mail me ASAP.

    Can't wait to see you guys, Carpe Tuesday, Kez

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    Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 01:39:39 -0700 From: Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Nuno Message-ID: <354ADBCB.7D5033C@worldnet.att.net>

    ytsejam@ax.com wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:05:57 EDT

    > shredding, Nuno uses a very short delay on the intro to He-Man Woman Hater. So > he's actually only playing EVERYOTHER note that you hear. Just like Petrucci > does on the solo to Surrounded. The delay becomes more obvious when Nuno

    Sounds like he's doing the same thing on "No Respect" too.

    -Rob

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    Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 18:27:17 +0200 From: Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl> To: DT mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Legato - what the heck is it? New possible thread? Message-ID: <3549F7E5.3EBA@wxs.nl>

    I read about JP doing a legato thing in Trial of Tears and it sounding like Steve Vai. What is legato? I play guitar but I have no huge technical knowledge. What about someone telling me what legato is, and it would also be cool if someone would make a list of interesting things that happen in songs ("nice polyphrasic rhythm changes", "short arabic pentaphrygian riff", that kind of stuff), and at what time. (Yes, that was the new thread, or at least an attempt at a proposal).

    -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers & Karin Kessels karies@wxs.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" Gwar FUQ & Atari ST Emulation FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ \--------------------------------------------------------------/

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 04:14:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Mats "Rydstr?m" <rydstrom@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PROG-O-RAMA fuck-up! Message-ID: <19980502111439.17935.rocketmail@web2.rocketmail.com>

    Whooops,

    something went wrong when I mailed The Jam (tm) some days ago to promote our new radio show, PROG-O-RAMA. The station and frequency was left out, too late now, but when we return, the 30th of May we're at FM 95,3 MHz. That is, in Stockholm, Sweden. The first program's playlist follows:

    Yes - Heart of the Sunrise Fates Warning - A Pleasant Shade of Gray, part IV Praxis - Interface/Stimulation Loop Rush - By-Tor & the Snow Dog Dream Theater special w/ interview (James & Derek) * Lines in the Sand * 6:00 * Showdown (live) * Status Seeker (live) King Crimson - Cat Food Return to Forever - Excerpt from the First Movement of Heavy Metal Dream Theater - Raise the Knife (live)

    That's it. Hopefully we'll be able to continue, at least once a month. My apologies to Stockholm jammers who missed the show due to my error, be sure, though, that you can expect a lot more DT on future shows.

    Sincerely,

    Mats Rydström

    .............................................................. Mats Rydström - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - rydstrom@rocketmail.com the LORD ROSSE Home Page... http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry .............................................................. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 09:58:28 EDT From: Music707 <Music707@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Re: Kirk/Slayer Message-ID: <60137386.354b2685@aol.com>

    In a message dated 5/2/98 3:22:56 AM, you wrote:

    <<Kirk's solos on Kill 'Em All were written by somebody else before he was in the band (by Mustaine, I assume). It seems that Burton was the only one in the group who knew shit from shinola, musically, so I'm inclined to believe that he wrote Hammet's solos for Ride the Lightning/Master of Puppets. >>

    That is true that the solos from Kill were written by someone other than Kirk, but I dont think that it went on after that, I think everything else is his work.

    -707-

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 17:26:22 +0200 From: 042432212-0001@t-online.de (Henning Brunkhorst) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater Gigs in Los. Angeles !! Message-ID: <m0yVeBC-0003EfC@fwd09.btx.dtag.de>

    Hello ! I'm Andree from Germany. I have your e-mail address from the Dream Theater "fan club" in Germany and hope you could help me. Next saturday I'll start my hollidays in L.A. and on may the 17th and 18th D.T. are going to play two gigs in the House of Blues in Hollywood. Now, do you know how to get tickets for them. I asked "ticketmaster.online" but they don't sell any tickets to people overseas!

    It would be very kind if you answer my question!

    thank you!!

    A N D R E E

    my e-mail-Nr.: 042432212-0001@T-Online.de

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    Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 11:31:43 -0400 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com, fates@tier.net Subject: Purple Boots Made for Listening? (NDTC) Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980502153143.0070b448@pop.pipeline.com>

    ]From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> Subject: Deep Purple (NDTC)

    I was browsing the cds at Circuit City yesterday, and I saw a DP live 2cd set labelled as "official bootleg" live 96 from the Purpendicular tour. Does anyone have this? How is the sound. It didn't look like a real boot, but who can tell. CC doesn't usually traffic in illegal merch, so I think it's legit. I would love to hear material from any tour Morse played on, so someone gimme the scoop. The discs were about 29 US for the set, so I want to make sure it's not crrrrrrap! before I fork over da funds.

    /me gets into the car to go to Atlantic City...

    Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>

    Detroit Red Wings 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions First Round of the Playoffs vs. Phoenix Coyotes

    Game One: Detroit - 6 Phoenix - 3 Game Two: Phoenix - 7 Detroit - 4 Game Three: Phoenix - 3 Detroit - 2 Game Four: Detroit - 4 Phoenix - 2 Game Five: Detroit - 3 Phoenix - 1 Game Six: Detroit at Phoenix, 3pm, Sunday, FOX > >

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 11:47:58 EDT From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DP/DT/ELP @ Finger Lakes PAC on 8/14 Message-ID: <aa63455f.354b4032@aol.com>

    Howdy -

    In case anyone's interested, I checked with TicketBastard last night and they told me that tickets for the DP/DT/ELP show in Canandaigua, NY at the Finger Lakes PAC on August 14 goes on sale at 10:00 AM on Monday, May 18.

    That's it for now...... Matt T.

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    Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 09:24:51 -0700 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hedges/Petrucci video Message-ID: <01bd75e6$d56d9b60$2fa4d6d0@internet>

    >For all you Michael Hedges freaks out there, >http://www.bignet.net/~divine/tab.html has about 50 Hedges songs >transcribed.

    Killer Link. Thanks Woot!

    >A quick question..... > >How much does the JP: Rock Discipline video go for? >Somebody (at Guitar Center) told me $50 !?!?! Is that the going rate >for instructional vids (that's what he said)?

    $50 is the list price. You should be able to knock off the B or C mark up whatever it is. Sale price should be around $30-40 depending on how generous the salesman is.

    > >Also, the video is for intermediate/ advanced players, right? I'm a >total beginner, but thought it would be cool to get anyhow, but it >wouldn't be worth it (to me) for $50. >

    Get it anyway. :)

    peace, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com

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