YTSEJAM Digest 3874
Today's Topics:
1) Re: New Address and Phone Number
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
2) Irc & complete ignorance
by Haje Jan Kamps <hajejan@mail.geocities.com>
3) D-man's New address and stuff or something.
by Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
4) London, Forum show thereof
by "Tchzrech" <Tchzrech@netcomuk.co.uk>
5) Re: Saviour Machine
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3871
by DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
7) Re: General responses
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
8) Re: Irc & complete ignorance
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
9) What a joke.
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
10) EOJ and such
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
11) Annie's Cincy...
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
12) Re: Saviour Machine
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3871
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
14) Music that Kicks Ass -- Strunz and Farah
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
15) opening act?
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
16) A question for the Jammers
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
17) re: irving plaza
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3869
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
19) Re: You Not Me
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
20) Tape, Quote
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:45:08 -0400
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: New Address and Phone Number
Message-ID: <199805101945.PAA17790@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Damon Fibraio graced my inbox with:
> hey, D. Why would anybody want to call your ass anyway? :)
That's it, you blind bastard! Let your speech synthesis chew on this
for a while!
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ffffffffffffffffffffffffffhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhlllllllllllllllllllllll
pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
gggggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
chchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchchflflflflflflflflflflflflflflfl
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuylpgwrtquxgrooovvvvv
:)
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The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "640 K ought to be enough
cmerlo@cs.wm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" memory for everyone." -Gates
d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" -Peart
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"The Spirit of Radio" Saturday 2:00pm-4:00pm 90.7 WCWM-FM
http://www.cs.wm.edu/~cmerlo/tsor
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:18:29 -0400
From: Haje Jan Kamps <hajejan@mail.geocities.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Irc & complete ignorance
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980510161549.007da5b0@mail.geocities.com>
Hey yall
I am just writing to announce that I am completely ignorant about the
irc.dreamt.org server. I usually chat via undernet.. cause All my friends
use it *looking over at matej* and it's such a bitch to keep two mIrc's
open (gosh I wish I had Ircle here) Anyway.. Is irc.dreamt.org EFNET?
UNDERNET??
Please, illuminate me!
Haje
+---------------------+
| Haje Jan Kamps |
+-------------------+---------------------+
| http://home.sol.no/~lrovers/haje/ |
+-----------------------------------------+
|I'm through just getting by |
|Countless times a friend has told me |
|Watch out for the wave |
|Now it seems the sea will be my grave |
|And still you swim to save me |
|Even though the water is much colder now |
| |
|Dream Theater: Don`t look past me |
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:32:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeremy Hallum <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
To: "Ytsejam: Where Dream and Flames Unite" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: D-man's New address and stuff or something.
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.980510162436.12120A-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
On Sun, 10 May 1998 D-man proclaimed to all:
> Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:19:38 -0400
> From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
> Subject: New Address and Phone Number
> Hi folks. Effective Friday, May 22, 1998, my new address will be:
>
<address deleted to prevent some sick pervert (yeah you, Eckie) from sending
D sick perverted mail>
Hey, thanks D! Your gift subscription to Hootenannies At Play will be
sent to your new address! Did you want that subscription to
Hootenanny's Hooters switched too?
-jeremy
Stargazer @ irc.dreamt.org:2112
Obmention: Sarah. Because she never posts.
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Do you believe...all the things you are seeing are true?
The Start is where the End is leading you
Do you believe...all's as twisted as one would percieve?
Seek the answer, and soon you'll believe.
-Symphony X Through the Looking Glass
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Jeremy Hallum Grad Student, Astronomy, Boston University
jhallum@bu.edu:::jhallum@dreamt.org
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 11:13:46 +0100
From: "Tchzrech" <Tchzrech@netcomuk.co.uk>
To: "Ytse Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: London, Forum show thereof
Message-ID: <01bd7bfc$51d91c40$LocalHost@xpnwjjkf>
Hi,
I'm hoping to be at the Forum show in a few weeks time, and I just wonder if
anyone knows
who, if anyone, is opening.
Mmmm, joint 32nd on MFP. "Astounding"
Bept food leaves in times of a lime in eeals,
Tchzrech
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:54:13 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Saviour Machine
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980510165413.0079d100@mail.erinet.com>
Yeah, I'm there. I saw 'em play twice at last year's Cornerstone Fest.
Dale Newberry was there last year. You goin' again this year?
Dan
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 17:01:01 EDT
From: DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3871
Message-ID: <e846198d.3556158e@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-10 09:24:49 EDT, you write:
<< Call me crazy, but I actually thought that the Puffy/Page performance on
Saturday Night Live was pretty cool. It shows that at least one rapper has
an
open mind and can appreciate quality music. But yeah, it was better the way
it was before Puffy tainted it. >>
I dont know about this. I think Puffy is open to any way he can make even
more money. He should start writing his own shit instead of biting of other
peoples music.
Whats next a mix of Dream Theater and puffy??
~ESH~
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:27:15 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: General responses
Message-ID: <35561BB3.6320703B@sydney.net>
Seroussi wrote:
I hearby suggest the 'we' as a collective body ignore any further posts
from this guy, maybe then he will get the message......
> I couldn't care less whether you agree with me or not. I just find it
> fun to showcase my opinion and hear others (like that enlightening
> pigfucker, makes you think...)
NO ! It is my firm believe that your original post was pre-meditated
to cause maximum amount of trouble on this list, you've done it before.
Your right, you don't have a life and I think you are some weirdo who
likes being the centre of our attention/anger.
I think the best thing is for someone to ask the Ytsejam moderator
to remove you from the list and ban you from posting to this list ever
again.
get some help
graham
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 18:05:18 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Irc & complete ignorance
Message-ID: <3556249D.19CF65DD@caribe.net>
Haje Jan Kamps wrote:
> Hey yall
>
> I am just writing to announce that I am completely ignorant about the
> irc.dreamt.org server. I usually chat via undernet.. cause All my friends
> use it *looking over at matej* and it's such a bitch to keep two mIrc's
> open (gosh I wish I had Ircle here) Anyway.. Is irc.dreamt.org EFNET?
> UNDERNET??
>
> Please, illuminate me!
>
> Haje
>
its none of those!! its DREam theater net!!!!:)
actually the server only hosts 2 channels.. the #ytsejam channel and
#freaks(?) for marillion fans..
In the stream of consciousness
There is a river crying
Living comes much easier
Once we admit , We're dying.
Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:53:05 -0700
From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: What a joke.
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980510155305.008a3b70@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
>From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
>hey all-
> i was unable to go to see dt at irving plaza fri. because of my parents.
>:(
You must kill them. Get Mike Bahr to help you out if you need a hitman.
>From: Seroussi <seroussi@algonet.se>
LETS GET READY TO RUUUUUMMMMMMMBBBBBBLLLLLLLEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
Ill leave the tarring and feathering to those more suited to that activity
than I.
>Ok, so maybe the way I talked to MP was too straightforward,
>disrespectful, etc. But, this is the internet and MP and I were not
>not confronting face to face. Thus, it is harder to show the required
>respect, etc.
Whether or not it is hard to show respect through a mailing list does not
matter. All these names are real people, and thus they demand just as much
respect as if they were standing in the room with you as you type.
ESPECIALLY when you are talking to Mike Portnoy. Lest I remind you that if
it weren't for him and the rest of DT, we wouldn't even be here.
>A question to everyone that flamed (I don't mean disagreed with) me:
>Some of you pointed a lack of respect to Mike on my side, wouldn't
>it be appropriate to practice what you preach and show some respect
>for me too? Or maybe I don't deserve any respect because you
>disagreed with me/I didn't show any respect to MP.
There is your answer. You do not deserve respect, so why should we give it
to you?
Ill leave the rest of the char-broiling to the rest of the jam.
Jon
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:58:09 -0700
From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: EOJ and such
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980510155809.007d3d50@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
Chris Ptacek so eloquently said with regards to Serioussi:
> You lit the fire. You're the one who's gonna get burned.
>End of YTSEJAM Digest 3872
>**************************
Except perhaps for a few by Bafu back in the day, this is the coolest EOJ
ever.
Jon
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 17:24:15 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Annie's Cincy...
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980510172415.0079b690@mail.erinet.com>
i'll be gettign there around 4pm or 5pm... where to meet?
Dan
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 17:22:40 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Saviour Machine
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980510172240.007a4dc0@mail.erinet.com>
no, they don't tour regularly...
last year's Cornerstone fest was their first US performance in 4 years.
they've been playing and such over in Germany and Europe a lot. they are
playing again at this year's cornerstone, and also at TomFest in
Oregon...plus 8 or so dates in the summer- but no cities or dates have been
released yet.
oh, Cornerstone is in Bushnell, IL, from July 1-5. SM plays on July 2nd at
midnight, and the Galactic Cowboys play on July 4th at midnight.
Dan
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 19:17:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3871
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980510191706.8430C-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
If you ever listen to the lyrics of any rap song today, the tune is always
more money more money and more money. Whatever they can do to make a buck.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980------------------------------
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:16:10 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Music that Kicks Ass -- Strunz and Farah Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980510201610.0079f840@pop3.afn.org>
"Twilight at the Zuq (Live)" by Strunz and Farah http://www.afn.org/~afn39111/twilight.zip
There's been all this talk recently about who are the true guitar gods. I've known for years that they're Jorge Strunz and Ardeshir Farah. Talk about speed? These guys may not be the fastest, but they're fast and it sounds effortless. Their playing is also musical and well improvised.
Strunz and Farah's music comes from Latin America and the Middle East, the old world flamenco and the new world of jazz improvisation, traditional classical guitars and electric bass. As Adrian Belew says, "I like it!"
This song, "Twilight at the Zuq" is from their live album, LIVE (catchy title, yes?), which the two have produced on their own label, Selva. This mp3 sample is in mono and could be a bit better quality, but still this isn't bad. It's a good introduction to these musicians (Strunz-right channel, Farah-left).
It's zipped to keep Netscape and the AOL browser from cooking the file. It's 2.5 mb and will be gone in a week. Have fun.
-=- "I went outside to get a life, but everything was closed up tight."
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 17:25:12 PDT From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: opening act? Message-ID: <19980511002512.13049.qmail@hotmail.com>
behind on jams, cuz first i was busy and then i didn't feel like reading, and then i figured I've gone this long without knowing the set-list, let me be surprised on Tuesday night.........
what I do want to know, though, is any impressions about the opening act.....so if anyone lucky enough to see DT on this leg already would be kind enough to clue me in on their impressions on the opener, please send those thoughts along to ahtrap@hotmail.com
and i'll thank you for it, really, I will........
partha
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:33:26 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A question for the Jammers Message-ID: <1998510212829126500@ix.netcom.com>
This is a question for the jammers that have some knowalge of music. I'm in a band thats your basic "Rush" three -peice (guitar, drums, and a bass player that does some doubling on keys). We do one DT song, peruvian skies and we also do the begining of Erotomania in our medley (we cut it off right before the clean guitar comes in) but we want to do more. You Not Me was thrown around, but we decided that we should look for another (not a good showcase of DT's material). Burning My Soul was brought up, but we felt that I didn't have the right voice for it. So...any suggestions? What DT songs do you think we could do (excluding The Silent Man) with the "Rush" setup, also figuring in that the keyboard doubling stuff is more like what Geddy did around the 2112-Hemispheres era, not very heavy with the keys. Also consider the fact that I'm not exactly as good as Petrucci with the guitar.
Matt
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:34:01 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: irving plaza Message-ID: <1998510202632141@ix.netcom.com>
Jeez, they had to improve the set list the one NYC/LI area show I DIDNT go to! Bah! Oh well, I'm probably gonna try and the them with ELP and Deep Purple (THAT should be an interesting show) at Jones Beach in August. One thing, anyone know how the show is gonna be? I mean, is it gonna me DT for an hour, then ELP for an hour, then Deep Purple for 2 hours or somethin? Some info would be nice.
Matt
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:34:01 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3869 Message-ID: <19985101834119169@ix.netcom.com>
Ok, on the subject of FII, lest just look at how many songs can fit the "listener friendly" mainstream style, and how many can fit the prog style:
1. New Millennium - prog 2. You Not Me - mainstream 3. Peruvian Skies - prog 4. Hollow Years - mainstream 5. Burning my Soul - prog 6. Hell's Kitchen - prog 7. Lines in the Sand - prog 8. Take Away My Pain - mainstream 9. Just Let Me Breathe - prog 10. Anna Lee - mainstream 11. Trial of Tears - prog
so lets see...4 out of 11 are mainstream sounding, which gives you 7 prog songs...and people stil bitch! And I'm gonna defend TAMP for a sec cause John wrote it for his father who died, did you really expect him to write a big progressive complex song for such a tragic event? I mean, thats a case where you'd want it to be emotional and not complex. And for another note, I do think that LitS is their most "Rush" sounding song to date. Anyone agree?
Matt
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:34:02 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: You Not Me Message-ID: <199851004138126500@ix.netcom.com>
I don't mind You Not Me either. Like I've said before, I don't mind a song like Half the World or Learning to Fly. I mean, just cause the song has a chorus and isn't in 9/8, does that make it a bad song? John still rocks during the solo, Mike does some cool double bass work. I know I'd rather listen to a more proggier song from FII, like ToT or PS, but just cause the song isn't complicated doesnt mean its bad. With this attitude, you'd probably say the Beatles suck.
<<The funny thing is, that if I want to "convert" someone into a dreamer, I show them this song first (especially if they`r into alternative or grunge) >>
whoa right a second there! You Not Me is NOT alternative and grunge sounding. Hard Rock if anything, but calling it alturnative or grunge is an insult.
Matt
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 18:34:03 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: "Ytsejam (E-mail)" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tape, Quote Message-ID: <01BD7C42.370A9C90.aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
First off:
> 5) 5's gone. there is no 5. (name the movie, win a prize.)
Uh ... there is only Zool?
Second Off:
Making a DT conversion tape for a woman. (She might be going with me to the SF show, as opposed to the woman who will be going with me to the LA show. Hm. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that ... heh)
Anyhoo, I know this topic has come up before, but I thought I'd share what I put on the tape (100 minute tape) -- I had a bit of an advantage, since she told me that Queensryche used to be her favorite band. So, I went for a bit of diversity over the standard "mellow" conversion tapes.
Side 1: Pull Me Under Metropolis Caught in a Web Scarred To Live Forever (studio) Eve (Studio)
Side 2: A Change of Seasons Burning My Soul Hell's Kitchen Lines in the Sand
And there you have it.
~Chris
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