YTSEJAM Digest 3870
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Windows 95 is prejudice :o)
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
2) Spock's Whatever
by yzzy <yzzy@earthlink.net>
3) Re: Windows 95 is prejudice :o)
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
4) irving review *spoiler*
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
5) The Seroussi thing....
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
6) Cinci Show
by "Ytsefish" <ytsefish@frognet.net>
7) Re: Detroit show
by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
8) Jammer meeting before Detroit show
by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
9) Re: Saviour Machine
by MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com>
10) Prog? My ass...
by Steve Zebrowski <steve@fuzzfactor.com>
11) Portnoy/Sabian info.
by Dave :")" <sirdave@concentric.net>
12) How do I get Liquid Tension Experiments Album
by "James R. McKenzie" <JRMCKENZIE@PDN.NET>
13) Re: irving review *spoiler*
by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
14) IRC site down?
by cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert)
15) Down on that
by Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <ytsekirby@geocities.com>
16) Annie's, Cincy, OH
by roadie@inct.net (Jim)
17) A disgrace...
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 20:44:56 -0400
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Windows 95 is prejudice :o)
Message-ID: <199805100044.UAA14390@daffy.cs.wm.edu>
Quoth Damon:
> tries, I am not a nice guy when flamed. Ask some of the ytsevets about the
> f sharp incident. :)
Oh, man, those were the days. :) Hey, Damon, a question for ya: Have you
ever considered linux? All the good stuff of DOS, none of the bad stuff, and
it's super-powerful in text-only mode. Just a thought.
-d
(The rest of you can ignore this. I just want to fuck with Damon's speech
synthesizer. WHAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUGENNNNNNNFUCK! :)
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 20:31:02 -0500
From: yzzy <yzzy@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Spock's Whatever
Message-ID: <199805100131.SAA11995@italy.it.earthlink.net>
>OK everyone, time to tell the real story here. Spock's Beard is not a
>reference to FACIAL hair at all! (For all of you jammers under the age
>of 18, please do not visualize, as this may constitute a criminal act.)
*yzzy slaps himself in frustration* my visualization keeps trying to
add the pointy ears. ;-)
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 21:38:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Windows 95 is prejudice :o)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980509213803.17464B-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
D-man, you obviously need a life. Why aren't you at a DT concert? :) And
no, I haven't totally thought of linyx yet, or however you spell it, but
when they get some good speech access for it and some music software, I
will consider.
-- Damon Fibraio, damon@monmouth.com Keyboardist, Vocalist, musical slut "One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity."--Rush, 1980------------------------------
Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 21:53:06 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: irving review *spoiler* Message-ID: <01IWUEGN90A0001S55@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
Date sent: 9-MAY-1998 21:28:54
Ok, there haven't been a whole lot of reviews for this leg, so here goes.
First off, and ptacek can show up at my door with a 5 gallon container of gasoline and a match for this if he wants to, I just have to say that Full On The Mouth actually crosses the line of subjectivity. They suck for a fact. They objectively, factually, reek. And for god's sake, if that guitarist EVER flashes a crowd like that again, I swear to god, I'm going to reach up and yank those nipple rings out like grenade pins.
Ok, that said, I'd never actually been to irving plaza before and I think it's got a really good sound system, plus our boys seemed at the top of their game, so it was a killer show. James got to do anna lee again, in fact the band left their stuff and set up at the front of the stage for it, and a few other songs, including speak to me, which I promptly shat my pants upon hearing because it's so cool.
Oh yes, CiaW, which was awesome, and was broken in the middle by mike going up to the audience and terrorizing people into drum dueting w/him.
No Voices and no New Millenium! dangit...
they opened with ACOS part I and I nearly got trampled in a sea of rabid fans. The entire audience, which was already tightly compressed, actually surged forward as a unit for like 10 feet. It was scary. It was actually a mob for about 5 seconds.
Then they broke into jlmb, which is exactly what I was thinking at the time so I headed for the balcony, where I spent most of the rest of the show perched on an overturned garbage can.
needless to say, more cool shit happened then I can elaborate on.
New shirts look real nice. That's pretty clever, selling us all crappy looking ones and *then* putting nice ones up for sale. Programs too, which have some real purty photos suitable for signing or shoving down the throats of the opening band's geetarist. Let me tell you something, I don't give a shit about your stupid road rash 3d song. I'm going to give you some road rash if you don't get off the stage right the fuck now!
ok, that was a tangent. I so sorry.
Well, afterwards we figured it'd be a while before the band came out to the bus, so we went to mickey d's around the block and then came back. I think this caused us to miss john m. I dont exactly know. But I finally got to meet petrucci, who disappeared at the last show I attended. I also met james again, and in fact, I'm beginning to think he's the coolest guy in the band. I can't explain it. He just rocks is all.
never saw derek or mike this time. ah well.
josh
............................................................ mailto: rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 12:16:59 -0700 From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Seroussi thing.... Message-ID: <3555FD2B.1D11@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
Sorry this is a late reply...I was out of town for 3 days (and I had about 20 jams to catch up on!)
I agree with everyone in saying that Seroussi was way out of line posting private mail and that everyone tends to agree that his attitude stinks....
These are my opinions.....
The great thing about FII is that while it is a more commercial album than before.....they hasn't totally abandoned their roots......(ie Metallica - sorry to any fans and anyone who is sick of hearing this name on the jam!)....the prospect of DT making more money off this album excites me because imagine what they will be able to do with that money when it comes to recording again! (I can hardly wait for Metropolis II)
An example is Virgil Donati...he is an awesome drummer....he used to be in a band here in Australia called Southern Sons....they were a blatant commercial machine (ie my mother likes them)...but with the money he made he was able to do other things on the side...in his case instructional videos....travelling to percussion "Festivals" etc.....
The sad case with the world is that there is little money in integrity.....to be able to incorporate integrity and commercial viability al la FII is a great feat and will only strengthen the band, improve future releases and determine the true fans from the rest....
I admit I wasn't impressed with FII the first time...but I can tell you now....it has grown on me! I still prefer Awake and I & W....but even though FII is more simple in places...it's still DT...and you can still see some classic DT in it....and that is important....
Also DT do not have to justify themselves to us......we are the fans but they are the artists....to them integrity is doing what they think is right....even if they decide to become a techno band! :) It's their decision and their music....if you don't like it....don't listen! :)
Sorry about the long post!
Cheers
Paul D.
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Date: Sat, 09 May 98 22:47:16 PDT From: "Ytsefish" <ytsefish@frognet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Cinci Show Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.00747365666973683030303830303038@MAPI.to.RFC822>
ATTENTION!!! ATTENTION!!!
Hey, ATTENTION any and all jammers in the Columbus, Lancaster, Nelsonvi= lle, Athens and the surrounding area. I have one FREE... that's right you seen what I typed FREE ticket for Monday's night show in Cinci at = Annies. What's the catch, nothing it's free... All ya have to do is e-mai= l me privately by 7:00 Sunday night so we can make arraingments.. It's a firs= t come, first serve basis and I will not be soliciting donations for it = either. All ya have to do is e-mail me... oh, and if ya can drive. That's an eve= n BIGGER plus... but not necesisary. So if ya wanted to go, but had no = dough Just e-mail me.
-AA
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 22:56:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: Detroit show Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980509225254.23039A-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>
Well as it turns out I will be going to the show after all. Screw rent, screw the car payments, cuz DT is in town! We should tryurn and set up a Ytse-meeting before the show or something. I'll post it to the jam, maybe Partha will stop by. Anyways, see ya later.
-Chris
On Mon, 4 May 1998, Joe DeAngelo wrote:
> > As for some DTC, who all is going to the Detroit show? Later. > > Me! > > 8 days and counting to Dream Theater! (*grin* *grin* *grin*) > 15 days to Van Halen! (lower bowl, row J tix..... I hope that means > 10th row) > 37 days to Savatage! (I'm not obsessed or anything) ;-D > > LIFE IS GOOD! > > > Can all of us Detroit 'jammers work out to meet somewhere for the DT > show? > > That would be great, especially since I don't really know any big DT > fans (around here, I mean) ..... for example, I'm going with someone > who's ONLY HEARD about 4 tracks off FII from DT - and nothing else! > (I'll change that in a hurry though!) > > Thanks, > - Joe DeAngelo >
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 22:58:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Jammer meeting before Detroit show Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980509225615.23039B-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>
Any Detroit area jammers attending the show wanna have an ytse-meeting before the show somewhere? I'm not sure of where a good place to meet around St. Andrews would be though, any suggestions? I know I'll be arriving in town early to check out the guitar shops again. Anyhow, see ya later.
-C#
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:10:43 EDT From: MTeiper <MTeiper@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Saviour Machine Message-ID: <d6207d9d.35551ab4@aol.com>
Hey Jammerz -
> Just wondering, is anyone planning to go see Saviour Machine at > Cornerstone this year? I'm thinking of going... should be killer since > they come on at midnight.. .:)
Where is this show taking place? Do these guys ever tour regularly?? I fookin' LOVE the only 2 CD's I have by them (SM1 and SM2), and would love to see 'em in concert.
Laterz.... Matt T.
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:42:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <steve@fuzzfactor.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Prog? My ass... Message-ID: <199805100343.XAA14381@fuzzfactor.com>
Ummm...
> Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding- Elton John- hardly prog > Perfect Strangers- Deep Purple- somewhat prog > Red Hill Mining Town- U2- not prog, very poppish > The Rover/Achilles Last Stand/The Song Remains the Same- Led Zeppelin- > classic rock, not prog
Agreed, all.
> Tears- Rush- prog > Damage Inc- Metallica- metal, not prog
Rush is a semi-prog band <not prog at all in the "Tears" days>. Metallica is metal, but more prog than 2112-era Rush.
> Happiness is a Warm Gun- The Beatles- the supreme mainstream band > Easter- Marillion- prog
Ok, Ok.
> Winter- Tori Amos- somewhat prog
Well, tori can get complex, but complex doesn't always mean prog.
> In the Dead of the Night- UK- prog/fusion > Yes Medley- Yes- prog
Ok, Ok.
> In the Flesh?- Pink Floyd- prog
No! Floyd ain't no prog band!
> Carry on Wayward Son- Kansas- prog
There ya go.
> Bohemian Rhapsody- Queen- somewhat prog
Eeeeeenh. I guess, somewhat.
> Lovin, Touchin, Squeezing- Journey- not prog
Well, this song isnt, but there's some other Journey out there that is more prog than Floyd ever was.
> Cruise Control- Dixie Dregs- somewhat prog > Turn it on Again- Genesis- prog
Agreed.
Actually, I don't know what the point of this was. Wait, yes I do. The point is I just fuckin' HATE Pink floyd.
Steve Z
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Date: 5/9/1998 23:49 From: Dave :")" <sirdave@concentric.net> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Portnoy/Sabian info. Message-ID: <199805100350.XAA17093@cliff.concentric.net>
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Hi everyone! Just wanted to say that MP is on the cover of "Sabian NewsBeat" cymbal catalog '98'...That's it, just the cover- I thought there would be more info inside, oh well- still, it's cool if your a drummer=] Oh, also inside there is a video available. It features Sabian players including; Mike Portnoy, Will Calhoun, Rod Morgenstein, Chad Smith, Terry Bozzio, and many more. I think you can also order it through their website at: http://www.sabian.com BTW, Bozzio is phenomenal to see at a clinic. Drummer or not, when his spaceship lands in your town for a drum clinic - JUST GO!!! ;) "Happy Mother's Day" to any moms on the 'jam (are there any?)...And I mean women who have given birth- not any of you other "mothers" ;) Bye,
Dave
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 23:55:33 -0300 From: "James R. McKenzie" <JRMCKENZIE@PDN.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: How do I get Liquid Tension Experiments Album Message-ID: <35551725.3231@PDN.NET>
I need Label Name SKU Number (CD Only) and if push comes to shove WEB sites I might be able to get the album through. I do not live in an area where I can find stuff like LTE at all. Hell I can't even find Angra or any stuff like that either. The only Dregs stuff is the live album from a few years ago (usually only on cassette, I don't buy/like pre-recorded cassettes) and alot of "best of's". I HATE "BEST OF's"! They ought to called "SAFEST OF's"! I AIN'T knockin' the Dregs, I AM knocking best of and greatest hits albums. Please respond directly to me, the journals are tto damn long to scan for a response and lately I don't even have time to read them at all. I have about 60 I ain't even LOOKED at yet.
T H A N K Y O U
James R. McKenzie
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 23:58:55 -0500 (EST) From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: irving review *spoiler* Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980509234945.539114794B-100000@drew.edu>
On Sat, 9 May 1998 RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU wrote:
> First off, and ptacek can show up at my door with a 5 gallon container of > gasoline and a match for this if he wants to, I just have to say that Full > On The Mouth actually crosses the line of subjectivity. They suck for a > fact. They objectively, factually, reek. And for god's sake, if that > guitarist EVER flashes a crowd like that again, I swear to god, I'm going > to reach up and yank those nipple rings out like grenade pins.
They were ok at best. The only thing that pissed me off about this show was the asshole fans that were there. There was this one guy that kept saying how much Full on the mouth sucked during all of their set. If only he would've shut the fuck up.
Also, I know this sounds extreme, but it's too bad there isn't a law saying that we can kill anyone who moshes at a DT show. Moshers really take away from the experince when they get in your face. I wouldn't mind if they all just died. I'm serious. It doesn't make sense to slam into people: why not just slam into a brick wall. You'll be doing society a favor.
As for the show, well these guys just keep putting on the greatest shows. Every time I've seen them they always throw in something new. I was totally lovin it when they played a part of "hot for teacher" and was loving it even more when they played a little "yyz." I'm like "HOLY SHIT!!"
There were obviously more parts I want to mention, but I'm too lazy right now.
Brandon
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:07:41 -0500 From: cmustard@netdot.com (Mark Lampert) To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: IRC site down? Message-ID: <01bd7bc9$2d12ed60$612227d1@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
When I try to connect to irc.dreamt.org, I keep getting the 'unable to connect' message immediately, and it's been going on for 2 days... is the server down?
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 23:16:30 -0500 From: Nicole Stachowicz McWatters <ytsekirby@geocities.com> To: We have assumed control <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Down on that Message-ID: <35552A1E.797E@geocities.com>
I'm a little down tonight. First of all, what's up with irc.dreamt.org? I can't seem to connect this evening. Second, did anyone witness the disaster on Saturday Night Live this evening? In case you were fortunate enough to miss it, Jimmy Page guest appeared with Puff Daddy. *shudder* It was really bad. I mean, it was nice Led Zep music, but with Puff Daddy lyrics on top of it, it absolutely sucked. Just thought I'd share. :) Oh, and what's up with James growing a moustache? I mean, first he cuts his hair, now facial hair? Oh, well.
-Nicole/Kirby a.k.a. Too type to drunk ~~:) -- Nicole Stachowicz McWatters : Assistant Editor of Dateline Kirby on irc.dreamt.org : a student publication of the Undergrad Professional Writing Major : University of Houston-Downtown stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu -or- ytsekirby@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:18:12 -0500 (EST) From: roadie@inct.net (Jim) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Annie's, Cincy, OH Message-ID: <199805100418.XAA21385@inct.net>
Greetings! This is my first post, so that's why none of you know who the heck I am! I am from Indianapolis and want to go to the show in Cincy, but all of my friends have no taste in music, so I have no-one to go with. So, are there any Indy Jammers that need someone to share the trip to Cincy with? I'll split gas with you, heck, if you want, I'll drive just to have the company! Thanks!
BTW, my 1st exposure to DT was hearing PMU in a club I was a regular at, I went up to the DJ and asked "Who the heck is that!?" and he showed me the CD, then he said "Listen to these 2 songs!" and played Take the Time, and Another Day and I was HOOKED! I stopped at a 24 hour dept. store and bought the CD that nite! "Strange how laughter looks like crying with no sound; raindrops taste like tears, without the pain."
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Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 23:20:10 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A disgrace... Message-ID: <199851001629141@ix.netcom.com>
I know this is non-DT related, but it relates to the discussion about rap singers stealing work from real musicians. I am watching right now probably the WORST and most DISGRACEFUL performances of a great song by a rap singer. I am watching SNL and Puff Daddy is totally RUINING Kashmir by Led Zeppelin. I feel terribly sorry for the millions of kids around my age being exposed to this catastrophy of a song, instead of the great original. I haven't come to the worst part yet. Jimmy Page is there with him, playing his guitar part. Jimmy's career, in my view, is now officially over. Although I am sure it was just for the money, I really don't see why he needs an extra million or so. His new album with Plant is very successful, as well as the upcoming tour, not to mention his millions of royals from the back catalogue. Actually, I hope it is just for the money, I would hate to think Jimmy actually enjoys perfroming with this no-talent rip-off. Whats next? A "sample" of PF's Wish You Were Here? Maybe we'll get lucky and all those "east" amd "west" coast rappers will kill each other off to the point where they will be extinct.
Matt
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