YTSEJAM Digest 3883
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Happy Birthday Lisa Marie !
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
2) Re: Buckshot LeFonque, Ben Folds
by Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net>
3) DALI'S DILEMMA / S.F DREAM THEATER SHOW
by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
4) Re: Bible-ography
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
5) re: Ben Folds, Puff, and even DT! oh my!
by bforst@busprod.com (bruce forst)
6) Sumo Rabbit and his Inescapable Trap of Doom
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
7) Surrounded
by Andrew <Andrew.Unwin@durham.ac.uk>
8) Re: CETEC Area 5
by The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
9) Re: Matej and Anouk
by The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
10) My opinion on I&W and Awake
by The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
11) Re: CETEC Area 5
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
12) Go Hank!
by Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
13) Re again: CETEC Area 5
by The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:49:48 -0700
From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Lisa Marie !
Message-ID: <3557E2FC.5451@pacbell.net>
Mark Bredius wrote:
>
> Happy birthday, Lisa Marie !
>
> Lotsa *love*, *hugs* and *kisses* from your biggest fan. :)
>
> (you guys are allowed to puke now)
>
nah I won't puke...I'm gonna be just as sappy....
To Lisa Marie:
My Best and dearest friend....you are the doorway and thru you I have
seen the Light and you showed me to go the way you go. Because of your
friendship I will never beware of darkness and shall always look for the
kindness of strangers! AS we fall into infinity...our friend ship is
carved in stone. Fly where you dreams go.....
Happy birthday my best friend!
Love, hugs and light!
Carol
--Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 01:19:02 -0500 From: Kevin Carmouche <khc@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Buckshot LeFonque, Ben Folds Message-ID: <3557E9D6.41C1@bellsouth.net>
I Love Buckshot Lefonque, I'm surprised to hear much about it anywhere out of New Orleans...:) I love funk, and I'll say this about rap, in all seriousness....I can appreciate some of it, I may go off on a tangent about it, but a lot of that is anger talking, and not my real feelings. Run-DMC, Ice-T, and A Tribe Called Quest are all talented, I think both lyrically and musically. Believe it or not, I have listened to rap in the past, though I haven't in quite a while. I don't say this putting myself above anyone or anything like that(hear me Chris Ptacek..hehehe) I still can't go along with what some people say though, that if it's popular, it must be good. Puff is popular, and he entertains a lot of people, I just think it's kind of sad that he can't put his efforts somewhere else that might be a tad more creative than what he's currently doing....but hell, that's just my opinion, and it's not the word of God(Though Chris thinks I think it is....heh)
BTW, I think that the Ben Folds Five is pretty damn good, a lot of people are seeing that now too, the only thing that sux about that is that their prices are going up...$18 bucks at the House of Blues for a 1:30 hour set??? c'mon.....They used to be a whole lot cheaper when they were playing Tipitina's....
-- Geaux Tigers!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/la/qryche/index.html "I Know If I Try, I'll Get Where I'm Going/ Keeping My Eyes On the Sky" -"Some People Fly" by Queensryche
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:36:58 -0700 From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DALI'S DILEMMA / S.F DREAM THEATER SHOW Message-ID: <01bd7d70$5d305660$1aa4d6d0@internet>
Hello Jammers!
Just wanted to pass some exciting news with what's going on with Dali's Dilemma if you haven't heard already. I listened to all their songs with Matt B's vocals and they are awesome!!! Hooks galore. They will be going into the Big Studio and finishing up the final mix in a couple weeks. Heard some of 'The Age of Impact.' It sounds really good. Great progressive writing. Some of it reminds me of Yes but more heavier and with John P's incredible melodic playing. Simular to LTE in that aspect.
I just added a couple pics of Matt Guillory on my web-page if you don't know him. He's the insane guy behind the keys in Dali's Dilemma. :) Sorry for the long download times. I'm still learning about web-designing. I like big pictures.
I also will be going to the S.F Dream Theater show at Maritime Hall. I hope I can meet all you popular people on this list. Oh yeah, and that guy Dr. Mosh. Finally we can hook up. :) :)
If you guys like Glenn Hughes, he will be playing their this Wednesday or Thursday I believe. See ya at the Show!!!
take care, --james-- www.jamesthorpe.com mail@jamesthorpe.com
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:47:34 +1000 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bible-ography Message-ID: <3557F086.B941550F@sydney.net>
belhai wrote: > On Mon, 11 May 1998, CETEC Area 5 wrote: > > > pink floyd is far morethe good shit, not dm, that sux > > Can somebody unsubscribe this guy?
Not by posting to the list, you can't try ytsejam-owner@ax.com This is the addy to use for complaints about this guy.....
graham
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 02:10:08 -0500 From: bforst@busprod.com (bruce forst) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re: Ben Folds, Puff, and even DT! oh my! Message-ID: <199805120710.CAA07919@mail.busprod.com>
>2. Puff Daddy - I hate him - everyone kisses his ass, there's > MUCH talk about his involvement in B.I.G.'s murder (that he > ordered the hit). He takes the songs, and basically talks over > new lyrics to the entire song.
ditto the sentiment on puff daddy... i want to write and article for one of the top "music" mags and I want the cover to read : "PUFF DADDY : why aren't more people calling him a thief?". I just about swallered my adams apple when i heard the vj on mtv say quote "they are both geniuses" in re to sting and puff daddy. Mucho ass kisses for some reason... go figure.
have you noticed the rap version of the "knight rider" theme song? how unfooooookinbelievable!!! I guess anything that easy to recognize is fair game these days. Till they use up all the TV/movie theme songs and classic rock songs... I guess it was inevitable...
but know this....
I got dibs on the INSPECTOR GADGET theme...!!!! Anyone craps over that song and I'm suing and you're all my witnesses... it was my idea!!
Whats the hardest part of writing a song? Coming up with that perfect hook/melody thats gonna make the song. I've spent loads of time chasing song ideas... some good some bad. and part of being a GOOD songwriter is recognizing the good stuff when you hear it and explore it. Makes ya happy when it happens....
so to go and take "established" eargrabbers and use those is cheating themselves. Sure it'll make them constipated with money. but let em have it... I'll take the little thrills of creating music any day... fame, fortune? pah!!!
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NOTICE: if you've heard that Deftones song.. where the guy is screaming SHAAAAAARK!!! or something... the guitar riff sounds like the same one from near the beginning of ACOS. Except that they repeat it about a million times... can we say monotonous (can we spell it?) ?
NEW PROJECT!!! take each of the riffs from ACOS and turn them into a full fledge song... scream over it.... and rake in the cash!! Sorry guys... thanks for the riffs!
b r u c e bforst@busprod.com
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 03:17:16 -0400 From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: erik@dca.net Subject: Sumo Rabbit and his Inescapable Trap of Doom Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980512031716.009a9b04@pop.wam.umd.edu>
The story of a band driven to smash as many guitars per minute as financially possible...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_89000/89369.stm
In regards to the Philly DT show...awesome. If anyone was lucky enough to snag a bootleg, however doubtful, given the pad-down at the door, drop me a line.
Also, are Birch Hill Savatage (that's Birch Hill, the ska-punk band, at the primo gothic nightclub, The Savatage, mind you, not the other way around...) tickets on sale? Anyone, anyone?
Brian "The Barbarian" Henderson
=========================== Name: W. Brian Henderson, Esq. Contact: hender@wam.umd.edu ROBOT-CENTRAL: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/ ===========================
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 08:42:59 +0100 From: Andrew <Andrew.Unwin@durham.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Surrounded Message-ID: <3557FD83.DD@smtphost.dur.ac.uk>
Does anybody know where I can get hold of the keyboard music to Surrounded? -- Andrew Unwin http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d704dr 1st year MSci (Chemistry) Grey College, Durham University "You'll Never Walk Alone"
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:43:04 +0100 From: The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'al766951@mail.mty.itesm.mx'" <al766951@mail.mty.itesm.mx>, Subject: Re: CETEC Area 5 Message-ID: <98May12.094722gmt+0100.31372@gate.tranemo.se>
> pink floyd is far morethe good shit, not dm, that sux > dream sux, the real shit is pink floyd, real music with real meaning, not > shit head virtuosos who take themselves more serious than shit > falling into shit, pink floyd rules! > pink floyd rules > pink floyd rules > bob marley rules
Oh yeah? Go fuck your mother in her ass or something, will ya! If you despise DT, why do ya post to the list? You moron - Pink Floyd's good, but Bob Marley? Come off it, man! Are you also an addict or what?
Worst wishes,
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//tHe WoRkInG mAn aka Per Pettersson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | It seems to me | | I could live my life | | A lot better than I think I am. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:45:15 +0100 From: The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Matej and Anouk Message-ID: <98May12.094935gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
> Leave the rap for rappers, enjoy prog if that`s what makes you happy. I > wish sometimes there was more musical tolerance among the > jammers. (I just bought Anouk`s CD and like it very > much..anyone have a problem with it?)
Oh yeah, you bet we have! I have just begun to hate you - with all of my heart and soul.
Nah, I'm just kidding... or am I?
Greets,
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//tHe WoRkInG mAn aka Per Pettersson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | It seems to me | | I could live my life | | A lot better than I think I am. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:26:49 +0100 From: The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'Multiple recipients of list'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: My opinion on I&W and Awake Message-ID: <98May12.103121gmt+0100.31372@gate.tranemo.se>
Hi jAmMeRs!
Well, I guess it's no longer a thread or anything, but I've given the mentioned albums a good listen and here's what I think about the songs.
The first ratings ("Was") is from when I wasn't into DT or prog that much - in fact, I&W and Awake were the second and third "prog" album to reach my Cd player ("The Wall" wa sthe first). I've listened to them for about 5 months (oh, kill me - way too little time!).
Images & Words --------------
1. Pull me Under - Was A+, Now A Still one of my favourites as the first DT song I heard.
2. Another Day - Was B-, Now A- I love the melody, although I hate saxophones...
3. Take the Time - Was B, Now B+ I've learned to think of this as a good song, but it's still a little too... what should I say... crazy!
4. Surrounded - Was C+, Now A This song has grown! I love it!
5. Metropolis - Was D+. Now B A good song, but the instrumental middle section totally ruins the atmosphere built up during the vocal parts.
6. Under A Glass Moon - Was B, Now A+ This is really something! YEEEEHAAH!
7. Wait for sleep - Was C+, Now B- James's voice does it all - I usually don't like piano ballads.
8. Learning to live - Was C, Now A+ I almost hated it at first, thought it sounded all messed up and strange, now it's one of my absolute DT favourites!
Awake -----
1. 6:00 - Was C+, Now A- I had a problem with James's new vocal style as well as with the chorus, but I've learned to like it now.
2. Caught in a Web - Was B, now B- It bores me a bit.
3. Innocence Faded - Was C, Now D+ I don't like it at all.
4. Erotomania - Was A, Now A It's groovy, and when good parts from every song are jammed together, how can it be other than good?
5. Voices - Was A+, Now B+ I think I listened too much to this - I'm tired of it.
6. The Silent Man - Was B-, Now A- I don't like the guitar solo, that's all.
7. The Mirror - Was C, Now A- I had a problem with the "strange" sound of the 7-string axe's somewhat "untuned" sound, but when I came over that, I could really enjoy the song.
8. Lie - Was C-, Now A- Almost the same as with The Mirror.
9. Lifting Shadows... - Was B-, Now A It's lovely! I used to have a problem with the break from the U2-style first bit, but now it's all okay.
10. Scarred - Was B+, Now A+ IMO, the best song on Awake.
11. Space-Dye Vest - Was B-, Now D+ Sounds kind of wrong, in some mysterious way...
OK, that's it. Hope I didn't bore you. Bye for now!
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//tHe WoRkInG mAn aka Per Pettersson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | It seems to me | | I could live my life | | A lot better than I think I am. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:38:41 +1000 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: CETEC Area 5 Message-ID: <35580A91.C5304545@sydney.net>
The Working Man wrote: > > pink floyd is far morethe good shit, not dm, that sux > > dream sux, the real shit is pink floyd, real music with real meaning, not > > shit head virtuosos who take themselves more serious than shit > > falling into shit, pink floyd rules! > > pink floyd rules > > pink floyd rules > > bob marley rules > > Oh yeah? Go fuck your mother in her ass or something, will ya! If you > despise DT, why do ya post to the list? You moron - Pink Floyd's good, but > Bob Marley? Come off it, man! Are you also an addict or what?
Oh yeah, why not just ignore this lewser ? Instead you have to stoop to his level and be a big mouth.....:) Your outburst can only feed the flames... Why not email the list owner and complain rationally to him ?
Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? Why do I have to keep repeating myself ?
graham
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 01:53:44 -0700 From: Jon Kretschmer <jkretsch@sdcc17.ucsd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Go Hank! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980512015344.007c7b60@sdcc17.ucsd.edu>
>From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> >> : >> : : >> _______________________ >> \\\\\\\\\\\\ >> :';"+_ >This is a superb piece in minimalist depiction of movement and space.
Jesus Eckie, have mercy. I nearly lost an important internal organ by falling off my chair laughing my ass off.
>From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com >Yeah, how come you say PS is not prog when >1. It sounds very Floydish (well the first half anyway, and the guitar solo) >2. Portnoy said in an interveiw that PS is the most true DT sounding song on thw whole album
I always have considered PS to be the best song Metallica never wrote, Master/...AJFA era.
>From: Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu> >Hey everyone Hank (the dwarf) won big, check it out- > >http://www.pathfinder.com/people/50most/1998/winners/1hank.html
Take a look around the poll too, to see who else is in it. Rick Flair, everyone's favorite WCW wrestler made it higher than Leonardo DiCaprio.
I love when the general public decides to make a mockery of things as stupid as a "Most Beautiful Person Poll." I especially liked reading People's reluctant acceptance blurb. They even interviewed the guy, and put a picture up of him wearing a bunny suit!
T-minus less than a week until LA HoB.
And ignore that schmuck from Mexico, he is just the third incarnation of Mr. HazeX.
Jon
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:08:49 +0100 From: The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'Multiple recipients of list'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re again: CETEC Area 5 Message-ID: <98May12.121316gmt+0100.31363@gate.tranemo.se>
Graham Boyle wrote:
> The Working Man wrote: > > > pink floyd is far morethe good shit, not dm, that sux > > > dream sux, the real shit is pink floyd, real music with real meaning, not > > > shit head virtuosos who take themselves more serious than shit > > > falling into shit, pink floyd rules! > > > pink floyd rules > > > pink floyd rules > > > bob marley rules > > > > Oh yeah? Go fuck your mother in her ass or something, will ya! If you > > despise DT, why do ya post to the list? You moron - Pink Floyd's good, but > > Bob Marley? Come off it, man! Are you also an addict or what?
> Oh yeah, why not just ignore this lewser ? > Instead you have to stoop to his level and be a big mouth.....:) > Your outburst can only feed the flames... > Why not email the list owner and complain rationally to him ?
Because I was in a bad mood and I hate idiots like him (her?). I don't have the strength to e-mail the list owner. "I have become comfortably numb".
> Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? > Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? > Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? > Why do I have to keep repeating myself ?
"Your lips move, but I can't hear what you're saying"...!
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//tHe WoRkInG mAn aka Per Pettersson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | It seems to me | | I could live my life | | A lot better than I think I am. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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