YTSEJAM Digest 3882
Today's Topics:
1) The art of a blind man
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
2) Re: keys
by "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
3) Re: Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
4) Re: Philly show
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
5) Re: Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
6) "FALLING INTO INFINITY"/ "LTE" TRANSCRIPTION BOOKS????
by JKorby1973 <JKorby1973@aol.com>
7) Re: Rap is Crap?
by AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
8) The Peart comments...
by Steve Godbout & Sonya Delisle <sgodbout@microtec.net>
9) Re: Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3871
by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
11) Boycot the Wall! (music store that is...)
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
12) Re: prog/mainstream...
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
13) prog on FII
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3881
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
15) earplugs, and finally caught up...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
16) ascii
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
17) Re: "FALLING INTO INFINITY"/ "LTE" TRANSCRIPTION BOOKS????
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3874
by Bunny1682 <Bunny1682@aol.com>
19) Re: Cornerstone
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
20) Re: Chicago show
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
21) Hank!
by Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu>
22) Happy Birthday Lisa Marie !
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:32:23 -0700
From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The art of a blind man
Message-ID: <3557A6A7.90268F8F@imap1.asu.edu>
Damon Fibraio created a masterpiece:
> that's it, all you sighted fucks. You thougt D's post was funny? Have your
> eyes feast on this for a while. Ascii art from a blind guy!!!!!
>
> :
> : :
> _______________________
> \\\\\\\\\\\\
> :';"+_
This is a superb piece in minimalist depiction of movement and space.
It makes me want to tip my head sideways and look at the faces with no
mouths, no noses, no eyebrows. Reminicsent of LeChithead's "Two Polar
Bears in a Blizzard," I can really get an emotional kick out of the use
of line. I'm still trying to figure out if those two sideways smilies
making the funny mouth faces are referring to having sex on a ladder
well while people in the apartment building watch. It almost screams
for color while at the same time keeping my ass in the seat and my eyes
moving full circle.
Maybe it's a portrayal of anger and confusion at the same time. "I am
having sex on a ladder! What the hell?" It is like the goldfish that
swims in its tank, and when it takes a shit, everybody can see, but it
can't do anything about it so it just continues taking a shit anyways.
~Eckie's written homework reads just like this
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:24:45 -0500
From: "James C. Shields" <jimbob213@mail.utexas.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: keys
Message-ID: <l03102800b17d5b654246@[128.83.46.160]>
>Another thing, I really like Sherinian, I know this may be
>strange and different, but I almost like him better than Moore.
I DEFINITLEY like him better than Moore. for a while, I actually Disliked
Moore's playing after hearing Sherinian. DS has more variety in his sound
choice, and I like his playing better, too. Also, he was the one who
started the ball rolling with "Lines in the Sand," ie, he brought his song
idea to the other guys and it became LitS. I like how he goes for unique
keyboard sounds, not just synthesis of real instruments like horns or
strings. and personally, I really dig the more open sound on FII from the
guitars lightening up and the keys taking on a new demension.
>I do say
>though, that Rudess leaves me a little cold at times. Derek's got a
>little more feeling in his playing, IMO....
I agree. I would almost like LTE better without Rudess (don't get me
wrong, I still love it, but...)
James C. Shields
Undergraduate
University of Texas at Austin
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Spread before you is your soul
So forever hold the dreams within our hearts
Through Nature's inflexible grace
I'm Learning to Live
"Learning to Live"
Dream Theater
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:32:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980511213135.56766C-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
You might as well ignore this asshole, he s got to be as high as Syd
Barrett used to be :)
Mauricio
On Mon, 11 May 1998, CETEC Area 5 wrote:
>
> dream sux, the real shit is pink floyd, real music with real meaning, not
> shit head virtuosos who take themselves more serious than shit
>
>
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:35:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Philly show
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.980511213420.56766D-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
Shit!
This guy is really giving us mexicans a bad name here!
Hey, we already have enough shit on us, so drop it!!! :)
Mauricio
On Mon, 11 May 1998, graham boyle wrote:
>
> CETEC Area 5 wrote:
> > falling into shit, pink floyd rules!
>
> then he came back with this revaltion:
> >pink floyd rules
> >bob marley rules
>
> What is with you Mexicans, are drugs 'that'
> cheap down there ?
> :)
>
> yours in mail filters
> graham
>
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:38:27 EDT
From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy
Message-ID: <8d21a94a.3557b624@aol.com>
Does this man have some sort of "Fecal Fetish"? I love it when the occasional
idiot turns up on the jam to make things interesting!
Art
www.joestump.com
<<dream sux, the real shit is pink floyd, real music with real meaning, not
shit head virtuosos who take themselves more serious than shit>>>
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:38:37 EDT
From: JKorby1973 <JKorby1973@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: "FALLING INTO INFINITY"/ "LTE" TRANSCRIPTION BOOKS????
Message-ID: <514eaf19.3557b62e@aol.com>
Has anybody out there heard the latest on the transcription book for "Falling
Into Infinity"? Or, has anybody heard IF there is going to be a LTE
transcription book? Let me know! I've figured out about as much as I can
without pulling my hair out!!!!!!!!
Justin
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:42:37 EDT
From: AEllis1222 <AEllis1222@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rap is Crap?
Message-ID: <c0899998.3557b71e@aol.com>
Basically, what Puff Daddy is, is a remix artist. It's been done with dance
music for years, Puffy is just the most blatant, and successful one yet. Not
that I like what he is doing, he is making profit from people's nostalgic
reactions to his "new" versions of the song.
Art
www.joestump.com
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:04:04 -0400
From: Steve Godbout & Sonya Delisle <sgodbout@microtec.net>
To: YTSEJAM Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Peart comments...
Message-ID: <3557BC23.7AD75084@microtec.net>
Hi guys!
On the subject of the Neil Peart reaction to Working man, here is
part of an article
in the Mordern Drummer of December 97. This was a pretty nice interview
with
Mike Portnoy about FII and its making, his drumming technics, back
problems, influences/idols (hence, Neil Peart) etc...
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MD: Is there a downside to this [the Working Man] project that you're
not mentioning?
MP: Well, halfway through putting together the record, somebody in the
Rush camp objected to it.They tried to pull the plug on the whole thing
- and threatened the label with lawsuit - but that was dropped and the
album was completed and released. Then I read an interview with Neal
Peart on the internet where he discussed Working Man. He said that he
refused to acknowledge it because it was an attempt by a bunch of "bar
band" musicians to cash in on Rush's name and that it had nothing to do
with paying a tribute. To say that I was disapointed was an
understatement. My involvement in the project was completely out of
respect and admiration for him and Rush, and it had nothing to do with
money. It was something that I wanted to do because I loved the music.
Neil has to realize that the same kids that voted for him in Modern
Drummer polls in the 70's and 80's - the kids that admired him and that
he influenced - are playing in today's bands. And to call me, Billy
Sheehan, Steve Morse, Deen Castronovo, Stu Hamm - all of the people on
the album - a bunch of bar band musician... well... I'd love to hang out
in some of the bars he hangs in! I never met or spoke to Neil, but I
always wanted to say "thanks" for the years of inspiration he gave me. I
hoped that my contribution to this project would be a way of doing that.
But, as you can see, it went unappreciated. I was really disapointed.
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What follows are two interesting questions and answers that would put a
twits to the
current mainstream/prog thread but I already sent this a few months back
and I'm not about to reopen that whole can of worms. Carry on...
And take care,
Steve Godbout
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:45:06 -0500
From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Jimmy Page and Puff Daddy
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980511214506.007d3b50@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
I may know him but our school is pretty big, Im going to check the name of
the poster, there is a webpage where you can check the real name if you
have the email address, CETEC is the place where my school has the
computers, his number is higher than me (mine is 766074) so he must be
newer at school.
I have an idea of who can be by the marley comment but Im gotta check first.
sorry about that, we're not all the same down here.
At 03:31 PM 11/05/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>CETEC Area 5 wrote:
>> dream sux, the real shit is pink floyd, real music with real meaning, not
>> shit head virtuosos who take themselves more serious than shit
>
>Please don't give this guy the satisfaction of a reply or a flame war.
>I have emailed Skadz already asking this idiot be removed.
>Alan, if you know this guy, please knock some sense into him.
>
>graham
>
>
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:13:05 -0500
From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3871
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980511211305.007d21c0@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
>Whats next a mix of Dream Theater and puffy??
>
>~ESH~
no, puffy is going to pruduce them
--- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:21:41 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Boycot the Wall! (music store that is...) Message-ID: <1998511175935218467@ix.netcom.com>
ok, I don't know if any of you Jammers requent the Wall (music store), but if you do, boycot! I was in there trying to buy a Marillion CD, and the guy told me they didn't carry them! Then when I asked where their Dixie Dregs section is, he told me they didn't have them either! Now, what do I see littering the front windows? Matchbox 20, Jimmy Ray, Puff Doggy! If there is one place that is feeding the world non-artistic crap music, its this place! And they don't even have two great prog bands, not just in stock, but just not carrying them. So, lets boycot the damn place and show them we need more prog and less c-rap and alturna-suck!
Matt
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:21:40 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: sgodbout@microtec.net Cc: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: prog/mainstream... Message-ID: <19985111811526334@ix.netcom.com>
well, it may be because I like Floyd, Led Zep, and Rush just as well, but Falling Into Infinity has some good stuff on it. You are being really strict if you trhink the only 2 prog songs on the album are ToT and HK. read my recent post, 7 out of the 11 songs I found progressive in some way. Prog doesn't mean complexity (example - Floyd) and odd time meters. Of course they are a pretty big part that make up progressive, but that is not all.progressive music takes you to a higher level musically (flame me all you want for being "elitist" ;-) but you get that (pardon the pun) rush when you hear it. It's uplifting. Its pretty hard to describe, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Its just exciting music musically, and that is another factor (which many of you seem to ignore) that makes up progressive rock, in my mind at least.
Matt
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:25:22 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: prog on FII Message-ID: <1998511232132219169@ix.netcom.com>
<<OK, let me break this down for you all. NM is prog, YNM is not, PS is not, HY is not, BMS is, sort of, HK is, kind of, LITS is prog Tamp not, JLMB, kind of, AL, no, Tot, yes. Any questions.>>
Yeah, how come you say PS is not prog when 1. It sounds very Floydish (well the first half anyway, and the guitar solo) 2. Portnoy said in an interveiw that PS is the most true DT sounding song on thw whole album
just my thoughts
remember, prog isn't just shredding, as far as I can remember, none of the original prog guitarists shreded at all.
Matt
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:38:32 -0500 (CDT) From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3881 Message-ID: <1998511233451211478@ix.netcom.com>
> pink floyd is far morethe good shit, not dm, that sux
ok, first off, why sign on to a DT newsletter and disscusion group if you're just gonna flame them and idiotically say "pink floyd rules!" after each post? Ok, I do like Floyd, they USED to be my favorite band (and Gilmour used to be my fav guitarist)...until I heard Dream Theater and John Petrucci. I said to myself "this is where the shits at, this is where prog is going" and from that moment on, DT has been my favorite band, and Petrucci has been my fav guitarist, and the type of player that I aspire(sp) to be someday. Now, I'm not the type to smoke pot or anything, cause I belive that it could royally screw up my playing ability, but somehow I do think that a lot Floyd fans are on it and well, this guy proves it...
Matt
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:39:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: earplugs, and finally caught up... Message-ID: <199805120339.XAA06696@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, am finally caught up w/ all of the past week or so Ytsejams... took way too long, considering how little was actually said...
Anyway, on the one thread that I have an opinion on, I would say to get a pair of Sonic II earplugs, to the person who was asking. I got mine for like $12-$15 at a music store, and they do a really good job, filtering about evenly, as opposed tho the foam ones, which let in way too much bass, and little of anything else, IMO.
-- +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ | A daily dose of eMpTyV | Dream Theater | | will flush you mind right down the drain | Falling Into Infinity | | --- taken from: Just Let Me Breathe --- | In Stores NOW!! | +------------------------------------------+-----------------------+ Michael Burstin: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu Oh my God, they've killed Kenny!! http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/ Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email: http://www.cauce.org
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:05:22 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ascii Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980512000522.007b1960@pop3.afn.org>
>that's it, all you sighted fucks. You thougt D's post was funny? Have your >eyes feast on this for a while. Ascii art from a blind guy!!!!! > > : > : : > _______________________ > \\\\\\\\\\\\ > :';"+_
It's Dream theater opening for Third Eye Blind. See, you can tell Petrucci on the right because he's got the goatee, and that's his cohort Myung on the left. Probably playing the instrumental part of Metropolis, since LaBrie is hiding somewhere. Only three guys in the audience, cause they all heard some "Nocturnal Cinema" band was opening for them. Jesus, no one's even rushing the fence.
>Now if anybody can tell me what that is, then you are fucked up and need >help.
Yes, I know.
-=- "I went outside to get a life, but everything was closed up tight."
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:06:59 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: "FALLING INTO INFINITY"/ "LTE" TRANSCRIPTION BOOKS???? Message-ID: <207437dd.3557cae5@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-11 23:05:01 EDT, you write:
<< Has anybody out there heard the latest on the transcription book for "Falling Into Infinity"? Or, has anybody heard IF there is going to be a LTE transcription book? Let me know! I've figured out about as much as I can without pulling my hair out!!!!!!!! Justin >>
if anyone finds this out let me know to, but i HIGHLY doubt there will be a book for LTE
Rocky
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:17:04 EDT From: Bunny1682 <Bunny1682@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3874 Message-ID: <75f52913.3557cd41@aol.com>
PLEASE tell me more about this LA show.
Jenny
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:26:47 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Cornerstone Message-ID: <199805120425.VAA15521@odin.ax.com>
> according to an interview on his page, he wanted to play, but it didn't > quite work out this year. this year's c-stone line-up looks good, but i am > kinda pissed that GC is playig the same time as living sacrifice and over > the rhine. YEah, I remember reading that interview and talking with Klank after the show in Iowa a few months ago. He said even if they weren't scheduled, he'd go to hang out, so at least that's cool (he's a great guy to hang with, too, especially if you like making fun of everyone mercilessly like I do :). I was kinda bummed about the GC/LS conflict, but I've seen LS about 3 or 4 times, so that's no real decision for me (only seen GC once). I'll definitely have to catch the last part of Over the Rhine, though. Great band. > i think i'll hafta watch GC, and then head over to OtR when GC's > done...OtR'll probably play for hours- knowing them. Yeah, I hope so. Dale R. Newberry drnewb@spiff.net
"By the time they had dimished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect 'Hungry.'" -Gary Larson
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:35:11 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Chicago show Message-ID: <199805120433.VAA15606@odin.ax.com>
Hey, for anyone going to the Chicago show, I'll most likely be wearing a Saviour Machine shirt and hanging with a big guy, probably wearing a Maiden shirt. If you want to know what I look like so you can look for me (I have no idea what anybody I know of that's going looks like), e-mail me and I'll e one back since my web page has been down for a while.
Dale R. Newberry
"By the time they had dimished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began to suspect 'Hungry.'" -Gary Larson
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 01:06:04 -0400 From: Matt Stanich <mwstanic@mtu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hank! Message-ID: <3557D8BC.7D81@mtu.edu>
Hey everyone Hank (the dwarf) won big, check it out-
http://www.pathfinder.com/people/50most/1998/winners/1hank.html
-Matt
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 07:32:12 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Happy Birthday Lisa Marie ! Message-ID: <01BD7D78.7C35F3A0@Romulus.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Happy birthday, Lisa Marie !
Lotsa *love*, *hugs* and *kisses* from your biggest fan. :)
(you guys are allowed to puke now)
Mark Bredius ____________________________________________________________ Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: 05-11-1998
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