YTSEJAM Digest 3887
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3876
by Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3884
by YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org>
3) goin' home
by "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
4) DT concert / Kiss the Stone
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
5) cincy show
by Madsag <Madsag@aol.com>
6) Need info on LA concerts for June
by <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
7) So you wanna hear a 'jammer rap?
by Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
8) Re: Rudess
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
9) Re: In Defense of Myself
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
10) Re: MP3 to Wav
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
11) Re: Live at the Marquee
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3884
by mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
13) Re: In Defense of Myself
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
14) HOB L.A./Moshing
by Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net>
15) Re: chicks
by Steve Zebrowski <steve@fuzzfactor.com>
16) Re: Matej and Anouk
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
17) Re: This is of no interest
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
18) Re: Philly Review - Lengthy
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
19) Re: changing bands
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
20) Hard Rock Cafe in Cleveland
by jemmons@neo.lrun.com (jemmons)
21) Re: HOB L.A./Moshing
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:00:19 -0700
From: Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3876
Message-ID: <3558AA53.9E85943@worldnet.att.net>
> And I was thinking. If you really want to fuck around with Damon's speech
> machine, just do the following...
>
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> ; )
Oh my gosh. That's funny.
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:14:34 -0400
From: YtseJim <YtseJim@DreamT.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3884
Message-ID: <3558ADAA.4A73BE4@DreamT.org>
> I received a package with a card and pin as well. Pretty impressive
and a
> nice gesture for all the fans.
hey! why didn't i get a pin :)
jim
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:17:28 -0400
From: "Alex O'Connell" <auocon@maila.wm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: goin' home
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980512161728.00959bd0@maila.wm.edu>
If anyone cares, which they probably don't, but I'll tell you anyway..
I'm going home for the summer, send nothing to this address before the end
of August!! I'm going to be at Devs0432@aol.com (resubbed) if it matters
to anyone. Have a great day.
LTE IS SOOOOO GOOD TO LISTEN TO WHEN PACKING!!!
Alex
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:31:20 -0400
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT concert / Kiss the Stone
Message-ID: <3558B198.382F22F7@home.com>
Firstly..... I'm off to the show at St. Andrews in a few minutes!
Wish me luck in meeting the band!
Hope to see some 'jammers there!
Secondly.....
Has anybody ordered from Kiss The Stone?
I'm seriously thinking of getting Mind Control, but I haven't heard any
feedback on this place.
Thanks,
- Joe DeAngelo
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:36:18 EDT
From: Madsag <Madsag@aol.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: cincy show
Message-ID: <433eef44.3558b2c3@aol.com>
the cincy show completely rocked, i dont know what else to say
it all seems like a blur to me today.
heres what was on the official set list i snagged from the soundman
<spoiler>
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acos I & II
Just Let Me Breathe
Burning My Soul
Take The Time/Freebird
Anna Lee
Hollow Years
(Keyboard Solo)
Lines In The Sand
Caught In A Web (Drum Solo)
Lie
Peruvian Skies
(Guitar Solo)
Pull Me Under
Trial Of Tears
Encore:
Metropolis/Learning To Live/ACOS VIII medley
the Have A Cigar/Hot For Teacher/Enter Sandman, etc. stuff thrown in there too
and
someone said they did Paradigm Shift from LTE but i dont have it yet so ill
take their word for it. No Nightmare Cinema, have they done that at all on
this tour?
I liked hearing Anna Lee, it sounded really good (i dont know why yall hate it
so much). i was very glad to get to hear Trial Of Tears, it is such a great
tune, and it sounded WONDERFUL. everything was great, they all just run
together in my mind.
id say Lines In The Sand was my favorite after ToT, i just live how that song
translates live. its so powerful.
i was really impressed with how many people were there, this was the same
venue Fates Warning played at when i last saw them and there werent nearly as
many people as i recall. when we pulled up to the club the line was just
HUGE. glad to see a great turnout for the band. i really hate shows at
annies though, its got the lowest ceiling, you feel claustrophobic in there.
mike didnt even use his drum riser. its also extremely HOT in there with so
many people crammed in. although the floor is sunken down a bit, it was so
packed with people that my usual area to watch from (back by the soundboard -
im too short to even attempt the floor most of the time) i couldnt see
ANYTHING. too many people in front of me. most of the people in the back
were standing on chairs throughout the whole show.
the biggest surprise to me actually was how well Full On The Mouth was
received by the crowd. when i heard their clips i was convinced they would be
treated worse than Big Wreck was, i felt bad for the band thinking what would
be waiting for them. But people really liked them, they got lots of applause
after every song. Big Wreck was basically ignored when i saw DT in columbus.
i find that strange, just based on their styles, id think Big Wreck would be
more a DT fan type band. I didnt hate FOTM, they were ok. Kind of an odd
White Zombie type band with more singing and not as heavy, more techno - ish.
They were ok.
I forget who posted about it the treatment of opening bands, but i totally
agree, just BE KIND to the opener, it really pisses me off that with so many
MUSICIANS in the crowd that people treat the opener bad. of all people who
should be polite and understanding, WE should.
~melissa~
madsag@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 12 May 98 16:13:45 EDT
From: <CNG@tcco.com> "Chung Ng"
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Need info on LA concerts for June
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+y18KpA@tcx.tcco.com>
Hi again. I am heading out to Los Angeles for the first week of June and I
was wondering if anyone knew of any concerts happening out there. I am hoping
to catch a few shows on Sunset Blvd while I'm out there, if it still exists.
Thanks - Chung in NYC
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:05:23 -0500
From: Big Swifty <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: So you wanna hear a 'jammer rap?
Message-ID: <3558B993.56FF@auburn.net>
Point your browser to http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/breeze.zip and hear
Shootin' The Breeze, a quasi-rap song I recorded almost 4 years ago.
Those of you in ack mode, wait about 30 minutes before you try to
download it. It's a zipped .mp3 file.
And for the record, I'm chronically caucasian.
Huh huh - I said chronic :)
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:08:06 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rudess
Message-ID: <3558BA36.E0104BA8@sydney.net>
Pat Daugherty wrote:
> I was looking in the Magna Carta catalog that came with my LTE and they
> are still saying "Jordan Rudess (Dream Theater)".
Maybe Varney has inside information on Derek's imminent departure ?
yours in sarcasm
graham
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:09:16 +0200
From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: In Defense of Myself
Message-ID: <3558BA7C.C3D12F36@stones.com>
Nicholas Giannotti in defense of himself:
>Maybe that's not the way PD does his business, and you are correct in
>stating that I assumed, which was wrong of me.
>You then, however, blow your whole email to shit by ASSUMING that me 'and a
>couple of other simmilar fellas here are in no position to judge
>objectively.'
>Who clued you in to what my musical preferences were? How do you know that I
>don't like rap/hip-hop/R&B? For the record, Matt, I do like rap. Not all of
>it, but then, I don't like all prog, but I don't think that makes me a bad
>jammer.
>
>And as far as wishing there was more musical tolerance among the jammers:
>I'll put money on it that you'd have to search long and hard to find a more
>musically tolerant or appreciative group out there on the Internet. I'm
>constantly impressed with the level of appreciation that the people on this
>list have for a wide variety of musical styles, and have broadened my
>horizons with recommendations from them - people I have never met, but whose
>judgement I trust.
>
>Nicholas Giannotti
>JointSTARS Contracts
>giannottin@hanscom.af.mil
>"Save the whales - collect the whole set."
For the start, I`m glad we agree that there`s more to PD than pure
stealing.
I obvioulsy misjudged you in my reply, please accept my deep apology.
Because
of the nature of your post and some other jammers, I ASSUMED that you
hate rap
and therefore judge something that you can`t be objective to at all. My
wrong
and I apologise. But I still stand at my words that there`s lack of
tolerance
towards some music styles (like rap in this case). I didn`t say that ALL
jammers
are musical snobs, that would be absurd ofcourse. I still think these
guys really
know music and share simmilar taste with me. That`s why I bother reading
tons of
nonesense to get through to some really inspiring stuff. ;)
I`ll ASSUME again...you`r from Milan right? Damn I wish I knew you
earlier, cause
I`d be delighted to buy you a beer before or after the DT show in Milan
or Pordenone.
Heck, we`ll do it next year :)
Mat
Playing right now: "Eric Clapton - Pilgrim" *****!
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:17:01 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: MP3 to Wav
Message-ID: <3558BC4D.5082CFF5@sydney.net>
Rafaloff, Ryan wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a reliable Win95 utility to convert
> MP3's to Wav format. Anything besides Wave Convert?
Yep Winamp 1.8 does the trick quite nicely.
www.wimamp.com
graham
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:24:37 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Live at the Marquee
Message-ID: <3558BE15.D657B93D@sydney.net>
Mauricio Martinez Villarreal wrote:
> I love the damn album, but it definetly doesnt give a good impression of
> a kick ass live band like DT, who usually bust their asses in the stage
> for 2 and a half hours........several times a year..........
Yep like a lot of 'official' live albums out there, they don't seem to
capture
the right spirit of DT's live show, having said that LatM does contain
some
great material.
If you are looking for something more, there is plenty of 'live
footwear'
around the traps to seek out :)
graham
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:29:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: mpm_2112@ix.netcom.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3884
Message-ID: <1998512164637341@ix.netcom.com>
"In my own fucking car (if
I'm with my girlfriend) she bitches at me to "turn this fucking shit
off" (DT)!"
If a girl did that to me, I'd be all like, HEY! why don't you go into
the kitchen and bake me some pie! Missy! ;-) If you don't know
what thats from, well then, you're not watching the best show on TV.
Matt
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:33:15 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: In Defense of Myself
Message-ID: <000a01bd7df5$f522ccc0$52b500c7@emc.caribe.net>
|For the start, I`m glad we agree that there`s more to PD than pure
|stealing.
|I obvioulsy misjudged you in my reply, please accept my deep apology.
|Because
|of the nature of your post and some other jammers, I ASSUMED that you
|hate rap
|and therefore judge something that you can`t be objective to at all. My
|wrong
|and I apologise. But I still stand at my words that there`s lack of
Wow. Intelligence. You know, I'd heard of peacefully settling an argument,
but I'd never actually seen it happen. Both of these people were completely
civil to each other and resolved their difference of opinion with no bad
taste in the mouth! Note the time and the date, someone.
While flames are fun to read, this was actually interesting. Cool.
Not that i'm trying to criticize. "Why can't you be more like your
brother?" Nah. I reread my post and i know it kinda sounds like that, but i
don't mean it that way. Oops, this wasn't related to DT or similar bands.
Well then, umm, don't read this post. :) And stuff. Moo.
--"I lost my vision in a tragic gambling accident." -Mike Portnoy, "A Change of Seasons"
Dan McCormack dmc@dreamt.org http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:30:03 -0700 From: Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HOB L.A./Moshing Message-ID: <3558BF5B.42C58587@worldnet.att.net>
Okay, I saw on the jam that the Sunday HOB show was rescheduled from 7:30p to 9p, or something. What's up with that? Is it true?
Have you ever been experienced? With DT at HOB, that is. Are we non-moshing fans going to be a little battered bruised by some midnight hysteria? That would be no big surprise, but I'm kind of hoping that I can just stand there in front of JP and watch him play at Stage right without bringing my shoulder pads and knee braces.
-R
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 16:48:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <steve@fuzzfactor.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: chicks Message-ID: <199805122049.QAA02197@fuzzfactor.com>
> > << In my own fucking car (if > > I'm with my girlfriend) she bitches at me to "turn this fucking shit > > off" (DT)! >> > > > > DUMP HER! DUMP HER! DUMP HER! That relationship is doomed. > > Get her outta' > > here. > > > > You'll thank me for this one day. > > Heh - Kez, relationship councilor. :) I've had this problem before, and I > found that Kez's solution, while drastic, was certainly effective...
Seriously. The best move I ever made IN MY LIFE was when I dumped the girl who gave me this same treatment in my own car. I got me a new woman now who is into good music.
Steve Z
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:50:10 +0200 From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Matej and Anouk Message-ID: <3558C412.E1F7FF92@stones.com>
>> Leave the rap for rappers, enjoy prog if that`s what makes you happy. I >> wish sometimes there was more musical tolerance among the >> jammers. (I just bought Anouk`s CD and like it very >> much..anyone have a problem with it?) > >Oh yeah, you bet we have! I have just begun to hate you - with all of my heart and soul. > >Nah, I'm just kidding... or am I? > >Greets, > >-------------------------------- > >//tHe WoRkInG mAn > aka Per Pettersson
You mean you don`t love me??? *sob* *pout* *sniff*... *fart*
:)
Mat
Playing right now "Rudess/Morgenstein Project - Masada"
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:52:21 +1000 From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: This is of no interest Message-ID: <3558C495.E4F6D90A@sydney.net>
The Working Man wrote: >Re: This is of no interest
and niether are you or your posts REMOVE !
:) graham
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> Subject: Re: Philly Review - Lengthy Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980512175544.20428A-100000@tornado.ocis.temple.edu>
> Isn't this what you would expect from the city whose football fans beat up > Santa Claus? Yes, it happened at a football game some years ago. No offense > to all you Philly 'jammers, 'cause I know this wasn't YOU, but a lot of Philly > fans(football, anyway) are the biggest a-holes I've ever dealt with. I'll > never attend another Eagles game. Please don't flame me, 'cause I'm talking > about someone else, not you. :~)
but...goddamit, i was one of them! :)
in fact, i'm the guy who threw their stick BACK at them after the show.
ain't I a stinker? :)
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:14:22 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: changing bands Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980512181422.007b0330@pop3.afn.org>
>like to see what else they have up their sleeves. I love to see >an artist evolve. I'd be pretty bored with Sting, Pink Floyd, U2, >the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Soundgarden if they'd kept doing >"Outlandos D'amour", "Atom Heart Mother", "War", "Freaky Styley", >and "Louder than Love", respectively. IOW, if they kept doing their
I like evolution as well, but these albums aren't helping. I'm pretty bored with Sting, Pink Floyd, U2, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers precisely because of their new stuff. If Sting had kept with the Police, if PF had kept making albums that measured up to WISH YOU WERE HERE, the Chili Peppers hadn't lost their horns (I listen to Freaky Styley many times more than their newest), U2 hadn't gone to corp-pop (not that I was a really BIG fan of "War," but I like it ok), well, I'd buy their albums.
(aside: I'm not really a big fan of Atom Heart Mother, but on the other hand "Astronomy Domine" off the first album is the best Floyd song ever written.
-=- "I went outside to get a life, but everything was closed up tight."
--------------------==== Broken via True Love ====------------------- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111 Butcher, Rape, Smash to Pieces
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:18:32 -0400 From: jemmons@neo.lrun.com (jemmons) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hard Rock Cafe in Cleveland Message-ID: <v01540b01b17e42d67150@[204.210.217.84]>
A brand new Hard Rock Cafe will open in Cleveland, Ohio on July 4th.
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 18:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: HOB L.A./Moshing Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.980512182546.23215A-100000@mariner.cris.com>
Rob Jurado wrote:
> Okay, I saw on the jam that the Sunday HOB show was rescheduled from > 7:30p to 9p, or something. What's up with that? Is it true?
This is true. See you there.
Rick Audet San Francisco
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