YTSEJAM Digest 3890
Today's Topics:
1) Oh man... I am so fucked up
by The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
2) CINCI SHOW SPOILERS
by David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
3) Re: SV: This is of no interest
by graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
4) Doc/Derek
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
5) moshing & other possibly irritating things
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@xyz.estcard.ee>
6) DT in Detroit S P O I L E R S ! ! !
by Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
7) Re: dump her
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
8) ytsewar
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
9) Expenisve ear plugs are crap
by Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com>
10) Empty Tremor Promo
by "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE>
11) I need your help.
by "Alan J. Maitland" <AJM@PPL.Providers.Net>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3867
by Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3867
by Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch>
14) Some thoughts on Cincinatti show
by ujonegr@psf220.lexis-nexis.com (Greg Jones)
15) Re: I need your help.
by The iban <Theiban@aol.com>
16) RE: YTSEJAM or not YTSEJAM
by "radmax" <radmax@ufigur8.out>
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:23:11 +0100
From: The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
To: "'Multiple recipients of list'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Oh man... I am so fucked up
Message-ID: <98May13.092735gmt+0100.31362@gate.tranemo.se>
The letter "SV: This is of no interest" was NOT SENT BY ME! It was my
fun-loving friend who "stole" my computer and sent e-mail from my mailbox
when I didn't look... sorry!
Gonna kick his ass later... >:-(
//Per
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 03:32:25 -0400
From: David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CINCI SHOW SPOILERS
Message-ID: <199805130729.DAA12920@promail1.ee.net>
POSSIBLE SPOILERS
POSSIBLE SPOILERS
POSSIBLE SPOILERS
If you're going to a DT show soon, and want to be surprised, you may not want
to read this! SKIP IT
This isn't really a "review" so to speak, just sort of an after show blurb....
DT never ceases to completely amaze me! I am so glad
I made it to that show last night, these guys are in my opinion the best band
on this planet! Once again they give 110%
I am completely baffled by the way they manage to open with the first half
of ACOS, then do a couple hours worth of everything else, and in the middle
of a song hours later pick up right where they left off in ACOS at the
start of the show.
DAMN!
Mike is an absolute ANIMAL on the drum kit. It is as though his limbs
instinctively
brush every piece of the kit that they pass at just the right time, like
some sort of
eight-armed artist painting on an array of canvases in double time. This
guy is unreal!
James was a POWERHOUSE. His vocals were awesome to say the least, and he
hit some of the most intense / extended high's I have ever heard. He was
made for DT.
Derek was UNEARTHLY. He seemed sort of in a world of his own, like an alien
suspended
in some sort of virtual fish tank floating in front of his keyboards, the
notes shifting his flow
as fingers seemed to roll across the keys to create killer sounds. Excellent.
Myung was the bass MASTER. This was the first chance I *really* got to
watch his
fretwork, and I cant believe how easy he makes it look. His double handed
fretboard
technique was so clear and solid, and I could feel so much of the bass that
my attention
was constantly being drawn back to him.
Petrucci...holy shit...can you say CONTROL and SPEED? When they ripped out
a piece
off of LTE I thought my eyeballs were going to explode. John's hands
provided an endless
array of guitar acrobatics that left my jaw hanging, all combined with a
true knowledge of
the notes and where to go with them. I wish I was even half the player he
is...
The place (Annies) was a really cool club, but the stage is way too small
and too
short. Unless you're at the railing surrounding the stage area, or standin
on a table,
you don't see much of the stage. The stage was like sticking the band in a
shoebox,
barely room for Mike's flailing arms. The sound was good if you stayed in
the center
or toward the back. I will definitely consider going to this club again,
lots of room for
the crowd to spread out and easy to get beverages. All in all I had a
kick-ass time!
Dream Theater rules! :)
Dave Hatlee
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 17:34:59 +1000
From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: SV: This is of no interest
Message-ID: <35594D23.326C4E3D@sydney.net>
The Working Man wrote:
> I told you!
>
> Testing the Swedish charachters a a o A A O
>
> Did it work? If not, I hate MS Exchange.
>
> Name: WINMAIL.DAT
> WINMAIL.DAT Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream)
> Encoding: x-uuencode
Yes I am also get the Winmail thingy, anyone help
TWM out weith this ?
graham
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 00:44:17 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>,
Subject: Doc/Derek
Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34170A244@ms.kallback.com>
>You will not see me, I will cloud your minds... you will see me as a
>5'9" blonde with big zongas and a great behind.
>-The Doc
Dude,
Watch out for Derek! I hear he likes the blondies!
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:05:19 +0200
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@xyz.estcard.ee>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: moshing & other possibly irritating things
Message-ID: <199805130805.LAA04194@xyz.estcard.ee>
> From: DrummerEsh <DrummerEsh@aol.com>
> Ya moshing at a DT concert sucks, i would love to stand in the front and watch DT
> do there thing im not a very big guy so its hard for me to kick ass. If you all
Do where thing? ;-)
I'm not entirely sure that Just Let Me Breathe or Burning My Soul (let
alone a lot of other Dream T. songs) were written for people to stand and
watch. Just do what you feel fitting and if moshing's it, go for it. (I
doubt anybody find h??self moshing to Anally - Anna Lee - but I certainly
had a neck injury during the first half of Lines In The Sand and at the
end of Peruvian Skies. Now I'm thinking with my spinal cord instead of
brains and it shows.) :-)
It's drunk and senseless moshing that should be forbidden.
Then again, I'd neuter those bungholes who spend the entire gig smoking -
without even asking whether I mind, which I do - and blowing smoke puffs
arrogantly wherever they go.
Raivo Hool
NT administrator,
Estonian Card Center of Banks
e-mail: raitz@estcard.ee
Office: (+372) 6 711 416
GSM: (+372) 51 43 567
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 04:17:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christian P Kremo <kremoc@river.it.gvsu.edu>
To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT in Detroit S P O I L E R S ! ! !
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.980513035510.3009B-100000@river.it.gvsu.edu>
Let it be known that on the 12th day of May in the year 1998 that Dream
Theater paid a visit to the fine town of Detroit to play a show that will
never be forgotten. My review:
Well I got to the show early as I had nothing better to day. Met up with
Partha and Joe and Mark Hannah. The doors opened only 7 minutes late,
which is a nice change compared to the usual hour and a half.
Full on the Mouth:
I don't really have an opinion on them. I didn't like them, nor
did I hate them, they were just there, taking up time. They come from
Flint, which isn't far from here, so they a few people who came out just
to see them. There was some pit action going on them. They were a bit
more poppy sounding than I thought it would be.
Dream Theater:
It sounds like show was very similar to the Cincy one, but here is
the setlist anyways:
ACOS 1 & 2
JLMB
BMS
TTT/Freebird/Hot For Teacher/Moby Dick
Anna Lee
LITS
CIAW w/Drum Solo
Lie
PS/Have A Cigar/Enter Sandman
Guitar Solo w/Paradigm Shift (this rocked!)
PMU
TOT
Encore Medley
The crowd was really well behaved for DT up until the encore medley when
a big pit started. They played the Metropolis part of the medley, and
then came Nicky Lemons with "I Don't Like You!" It was hilarious! DS
kept pulling the feathers out of his boa and throwing them to the crowd.
Then I think they did part of Cupid's Dead (not sure thought) and then the
LTL part, ending with ACOS 7 and the AFIL teaser. But they didn't feel
like stopping just yet. They kept on with One featuring MP singing the
"Darkness, imprisoning me..." parts, then Smoke on the Water, and then
finishing with Iron Maiden's "The Trooper" once again featuring MP on vox.
Highlights:
The whole damn thing! This was so much better than the last show.
I think the "Hasselhof" look works for JLB. When MP and JP played
Paradigm Shift, my jaw just dropped. In PMU, DS kept passing his
sunglasses back and forth to his roadie. DS and MP were playing catch
with the drumsticks during the end Lie solo. I'm sure there was more, but
I gotta go to sleep soon before I faint. Bye.
-C#
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:31:16 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: dump her
Message-ID: <199805130831.BAA13385@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before proofreading..., "Trevor W. Hoit" said:
>
>> << In my own fucking car (if I'm with my girlfriend)
>> she bitches at me to "turn this fucking shit off" (DT)! >>
>> DUMP HER! DUMP HER! DUMP HER! That relationship is doomed. Get her
>> outta'
>> here.
>>
> Dude, if we dumped every girl that didn't like prog we'd all be
>gayer than hootenannies.
>
Better to be gay, or not get laid, then compromise your musical integrity.
If it ain't prog... it's worthless... ;)
/me is locked into progsnob mode.
-The Doc
-- *#&*@#@*(#@#*@(#!@*#(!@#(&!#(@!*#@((#@$(#@(($@#($(#@$@#($@#(*$@(*$*(#(#(##(#(# computersarefasterthanhumans - devastatetoinnovate - hyperspacialparallelcomp\ drkhoe@gmsnet.com = http://progmetal.gmsnet.com = internetcyberwetwaregamedev+ s*o#o$n@@c*o!m^e)s@@t>h<e@@|d~i+g-i%t%a.l@@<M><E><S><S><I><A><H> gaMECoReTeKN0------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 01:32:51 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ytsewar Message-ID: <199805130832.BAA13400@gms.gmsnet.com>
Hey, if there are any of you out there on this list that plays a lot of BATTLE.NET... we play Starcraft practically every night till the wee hours of the morning, and we meet in channel: ytsewar usually...
So join in...
-The Doc
-- *#&*@#@*(#@#*@(#!@*#(!@#(&!#(@!*#@((#@$(#@(($@#($(#@$@#($@#(*$@(*$*(#(#(##(#(# computersarefasterthanhumans - devastatetoinnovate - hyperspacialparallelcomp\ drkhoe@gmsnet.com = http://progmetal.gmsnet.com = internetcyberwetwaregamedev+ s*o#o$n@@c*o!m^e)s@@t>h<e@@|d~i+g-i%t%a.l@@<M><E><S><S><I><A><H> gaMECoReTeKN0
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 05:44:50 EDT From: Calvin 6S <Calvin6S@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Expenisve ear plugs are crap Message-ID: <42dd0ba7.35596b93@aol.com>
KEZCOM writes:
<< These are the exact models that I wore at the Daytona's show, and it took 5 days to get my full hearing back. >>
I had the same experience. I bought the $12 models and I thought wow these are great. I can hear the show much better than with the foam. Reason - they weren't doing ANYTHING. I had ringing in my ears for quite a while - not a week though. I think you either buy cheap foam and deal with the spectrum loss - or you plunge into the custom fit $100+ models. End of story.
Anyone else disagree - cuz I'd sure like to agree that I'm wrong.
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 09:59 +0200 From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?R=D6NNQVIST,?= GREGER" <GREGER.RONNQVIST@INFODATA.SEMA.SE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Empty Tremor Promo Message-ID: <199805130759.5LMp@memo-smtp.sto.sema.se>
--- Inkommet fr=E5n INFODATA.SVA0193 +46(0)670-16060 98-05-13 09.59
-> ytsejam(a)ax.com
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:39:49 +1000 ]From: graham boyle <icarus@sydney.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: new official EMPTY TREMOR fan club site Message-ID: <354041C5.4B555B3F@sydney.net>
Arash Ashouriha wrote: > Don't forget, as a member of Ystejam you can request a FREE PROMO TAPE > directly from Empty Tremor.
I am still waiting for a promo CD from these guys, I was told as far back as late February that they were gonna send me one. I still haven't got it and my email enquiring about this is not answered....
Has anyone else been promised a promo CD and not recieved it ??
graham
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I havn't got it either. I suppose they got so many answers that they havn't got the time to get it out to everyone.
Greger Ronnqvist Risselasvagen 66 B 833 35 Stromsund Sweden
greger.ronnqvist@infodata.sema.se http://hem2.passagen.se
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Date: Wed 13 May 1998 05:32:36 -0600 From: "Alan J. Maitland" <AJM@PPL.Providers.Net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I need your help. Message-ID: <19980513115238401.AAA71@MailSys.PPL.Providers.Net>
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:48:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3867 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980513134617.2437A-100000@troll.studi.unizh.ch>
> ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 03:57:11 -0500 > From: Beyond the Mirror <mail@beyondthemirror.com> > To: "'YJ Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: Re: Derek > Message-ID: <01BD7AFE.92B291A0.mail@beyondthemirror.com> > > > Yesterday, I wrote... > > >>>...I'd like to know if Derek has a bad reputation > >>>in general or if we just caught him on a > >>>bad day... > > I'd like to thank those of you who have contributed to this thread. Your > responses were exactly what I was looking for (aren't these discussion > groups great?). I'm pleased that 90% of the comments about Derek have been > positive. > > For those who are curious, the negative impression that Derek made in > Madison began almost immediately after he entered the building when he > started checking and tweaking his gear. He was not satisfied with the > quality of the monitor provided for him by the local sound company. He > immediately launched into a loud tantrum of cruel sarcasm and insults about > it, causing the entire room to go awkwardly silent. He seemed to be going > out of his way to embarrass the local sound tech (who he had not been > introduced to yet) and came off as a spoiled brat. Anyway, after that, I > kept my distance from him. I'm sure that he's a pretty cool guy most of the > time but you know what they say about first impressions :-) > > Thanks again, > Josh Becker > josh@beyondthemirror.com > http://www.beyondthemirror.com > >
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:49:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Choon-Kang Walther <rcwalthe@studi.unizh.ch> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3867 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.980513134843.2437B-100000@troll.studi.unizh.ch>
Sorry, just sent out the mail to the wrong folder...
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:39:04 -0400 From: ujonegr@psf220.lexis-nexis.com (Greg Jones) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Some thoughts on Cincinatti show Message-ID: <199805131139.HAA21890@psf220.pclprod.meaddata.com>
I saw the show at Cincinatti on Monday and have to say that the show was awesome!
Some points of interest. I noticed that for most of the show, the keyboards were not loud enough. Other than that, the mix was pretty good although JL was very frustrated at his monitor setting during the first song!
I don't like DS's stage presence. He looks like he's cocky. Maybe he's not but he looks like he's posing. Hey Derek! This isn't Milly Vanilly. We really don't care if you are wearing sunglasses on your head or not!
I stood right behind the sound booth. Great spot. Stood too long. There were no seats at Annie's.
There was a pretty good crowd but not what I'd like to see for a band of this talent. This gets me to wondering.
Considering all of this talk about DT selling out, isn't DT a lot more popular in Japan? I was wondering if they make up the for the small venues in the US by playing over there.
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 07:52:31 EDT From: The iban <Theiban@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: I need your help. Message-ID: <10ed76b5.35598980@aol.com>
spam spam spam spam spam spam spam eggs and spam
someone use an anonymous emailer and unsub this jerk =]
Rocky
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:53:21 -0500 From: "radmax" <radmax@ufigur8.out> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM or not YTSEJAM Message-ID: <002d01bd7e76$7eb3df80$4cc694cd@default>
Well, at least one person (earthblind, starbound) got the point. Re: the below clips
>...Can we please save the PF talk for the PF lists.
>I went through and did all the ytsejam administration this >morning and we currently have about 1200 people on the list. Not too >shabby, especially since <<alot of people have unsubbed because of the >amount of data/lack of content>> lately.
>..., if you see some dumbass post something which is >obviously not content for this list (like our nice friend today),
No shitty attitude Nick, just getting to the point. >Don't expect a list of 1000+ people to cater >to your every whim, and don't expect to get anywhere with a shitty attitude. I don't expect MY whims to be catered to. I just expect a list NAMED 'YSTEJAM' to be ABOUT those things which REFER to that genre in general (being DT and other PROG). NOT about bitchy girlfriends. Or OTHER forms of music (of which if I WAS interested, I would go to those lists AND expect them to talk about THOSE other forms, NOT PROG), etc.... which is what 'earthbound, starbound' was saying basically when he replied > (that's self-referential post of the week. i got it from captain nitpick, who is generally an annoying guy, but has a point when people post "Could people please only post jokes?" on rec.humor.) (At least I think it was)
Again, I emphasize, this is SUPPOSED to be a newsletter for FANS of DT and SIMILAR bands to voice views and news. NOTE, I SAID SIMILAR (spock's beard counts in there, KEZCOM )
All I was trying to impart was let's leave girlfriend problems to Rikki Lake, Puff daddy to the 'Rappers-R-Us' jam and insults to Don Rickles online.
I knew that this would get me flamed by those it was directed to. The mere fact that this started yet another inane thread is PROOF of what I was trying to say. I just don't want to see this list degrade to the point that all I read is 'no DTC' on every subject heading. And BTW Carlos, filtering ONLY works IF everyone puts relevent subject headings (which they don't always, if at all) And just so you know, I have both the HD space AND the knowledge (being both a computer engineer and a nuclear health physics technician), CONSIDERING the fact that I was programming when MOST of you were still in diapers.
NUFF SAID, SAID I
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