YTSEJAM Digest 3893
Today's Topics:
1) Re: any post by Dr. Mosh
by Pam Doise <ytsepam@earthlink.net>
2) Hollow Years At Last!
by Kyrre Trohjell <Kyrre.Trohjell@sek.uib.no>
3) Re: Female Prog Fans
by Dona Kim <dmkim@fas.harvard.edu>
4) DT in Detroit.....
by JE78674@ltu.edu
5) Earplugging / Majesty / Tapetradin'
by Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
6) Any tapes from this "leg" of the tour?!?
by Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
7) Re: Any post from Dr. Mosh
by Pam Doise <ytsepam@earthlink.net>
8) Re: any post by Dr. Mosh
by Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org>
9) Madison Record Stores
by Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@students.wisc.edu>
10) Re: Expenisve ear plugs are crap
by Clark Abel <99abel@alma.edu>
11) New Mastermind CD due out later...NDTC
by "Braun, Randall (CAP, ITS, US)" <Randall.Braun@gecits.ge.com>
12) HOB stuff/plugs/parking
by Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net>
13) Re: name the song
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
14) Re: Female Prog Fans
by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
15) Re: Any tapes from this "leg" of the tour?!?
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
16) Re: Dumping "Chicks" who hate DT
by Beyond the Mirror <mail@beyondthemirror.com>
17) Re: Dumping "Chicks" who hate DT
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
18) WINMAIL.DAT
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
19) Tempe show directions
by Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3890
by David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
21) Re: 5's gone. there is no 5.
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU>
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 10:34:09 -0700
From: Pam Doise <ytsepam@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: any post by Dr. Mosh
Message-ID: <3559D991.4000@earthlink.net>
Yeh, I know. I never post, but I couldn't let this go by me:
>You will not see me, I will cloud your minds... you will see me as a
>5'9" blonde with big zongas and a great behind.
>-The Doc
Mosh is gonna crossdress? He's gonna still the show from DT!
> e-mail me when it gets closer to June... and I'll let you know of > some shows.
Uh, Mosh, honey, it's mid-April now...how much closer does it have to
be? Maybe you're panty hose are on too tight?
> Generally it's a non-moshing crowd at the HoB... mostly more mature > like folks... (as opposed to the word: OLD)
Oh my. Mosh has gone PC on us! NO WAY! Well, I knew it. Put a man in a
dress and he develops TACT.
(There is TOO DT-content! Read it again.)
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 19:45:39 GMT+1
From: Kyrre Trohjell <Kyrre.Trohjell@sek.uib.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hollow Years At Last!
Message-ID: <472FA663194@humanistisk.hd.uib.no>
Finally got the European release of Hollow years, and I am pleased to
tell you all that I am... uh, pleased. :-)
The bad thing about it, IMO, is the cover, I mean, what is this? It
looks more like a CATERPILLAR advertisment than a DT cover. I mean,
the LIE cover ruled, and the TSM cover didn't suck too hard, either.
Well, for all I know, it IS a CAT ad. :-)
Aside from that, because of the wide angle lens, Portboy (Heh!) looks
FAT. (Err... right)
Is the cover the same all over the world?
What did the BMS cover look like?
Okay, now the tunes!
1.HY (Radio Edit)
Edited by who? I mean, this is MASSACRE. OK, I reakted because I
know the tune. Ever played it for someone not familiar with HY? Did
they have a reaction of any kind? It sounds so ARTIFICIAL.
2.HY (Regular)
I love this song.
3.YOM
This is the song I've been waiting for for months! At the first
listen, I couldn't understand the fuzz about it. YNM is so much
better! But after a few listens, it really began to sink in, and
when I at last had gotten used to that HORRIBLE sound (sorry John
and Mike :-) ) it really stuck! It's on heavy rotation in my Brain
Radio! :-) The instrumental interlude that is unique to YOM, is very
DT, and I really love it. It's great that it's that great a
difference between YNM and YOM, because, what's the point in having
demos as bonus track, when the only difference is the sound quality?
(These are opinions. Yes, you may flame me, and yes, you may continue
some of this material as a NEW THREAD) :-)
4.TWIUTB
A track that rocks! It's U2, all right, but I always dug DT's U2
inspired stuff, so it doesn't kill me (or the song, for that matter).
The song is great, but I can't figure out which song on FII it should
replace) (For those of you who want's to propose a song, remember that
FII tracks 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10 do not apply, because they are
shorter than TWIUTB, and wouldn't leave enough space. I estimate
that there are no one on the list who would kick out TWO FII tunes to
make room for TWIUTB. LOL!
Well, gotta run home and practice!
C-ya!
Kyrre
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dona Kim <dmkim@fas.harvard.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Female Prog Fans
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980513135037.20510C-100000@login1.fas.harvard.edu>
Despite the fact that there are a few female prog rockers out there, I
have to agree that this music doesn't seem to appeal to most women (or
minorities). I think that white males constitute the majority of prog
rock fans. And that's a really poor reflection on the rest of us
considering this is perhaps the most intelligent modern music around.
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:07:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: JE78674@ltu.edu
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: DT in Detroit.....
Message-ID: <01IWZK1XQZ0Y8Y5NAK@LTU.EDU>
Well,
I'll make this short, DT rocked, James' voice wasn't shitty, and the
band had a blast playing up there!
I met all the guys after the show except for Myung, he ran away. All were
cool, James was...well, James.
Bottom line, great show, made up for last October's dissapointment. If
you get a chance, go see them.
Take care,
Jeff E.
P.S. The guys from Michigan Tech were cool, a bit tired from their drive,
they'll post about their adventure as well as the "Bible Guy"
that was harrassing the band members...weird guy...
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:09:27 -0400
From: Lobsterback <hender@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Earplugging / Majesty / Tapetradin'
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980513140927.00984030@pop.wam.umd.edu>
Don't bother wasting your money on one of those fancy-schmancy earplug
sets. Personally, I endorse the little wax blobs available in nearly every
pharmacy. Keep in mind, if one uses them like the label says, everything's
going to sound like sheeit, all muddy, with very little upper end. What
I've found works wonders is to insert plugs, as per directions, then push
them back a little bit, creating a tiny channel for natural sound to enter.
You filter out all of that "wall of noise", and still get the good stuff.
Using this system, I get awesome concert sound with little to no ringing in
the ears afterward. And all for about $1.50.
One noun and a preposition: "A Vision". Can you folks imagine a modernized
version of this song? I know the band's not too interested in remaking
their Majesty demo songs, but it would be cool as hell to add it to the
setlist of a show or two (preferably one I was at, but...). Paging Dr.
Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Portnoy? (Moe, Larry, and Mikey)
Finally, to those interested in tape-trading, a good site to add yourself
to (I just did):
http://tapetracker.com/traderindex/
It's a giant index of tape-traders, and the first I've come across that
doesn't "require" you to be affiliated with the Greatful Dead, Phish, etc.
Give 'er a rip -- it can't hurt.
Brian "Bee-Wrangler" Henderson
===========================
Name:
W. Brian Henderson, Esq.
Contact:
hender@wam.umd.edu
ROBOT-CENTRAL:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~hender/
===========================
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:20:38 -0700
From: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Any tapes from this "leg" of the tour?!?
Message-ID: <355A0EA6.6524@idt.net>
C'Mon guys/Gals! I can't POSSIBLY be the only one who taped any of these
shows (I got Irving Plaza in NYC, 5/8/98). I want to trade with other
Jammers who got THIS leg of the tour. PLEASE!!! I'm hearing about
things they DIDN'T do at the show I saw, like JP singing The Trooper and
Enter Sandman at the Cincy show. I NEED THIS STUFF!! Contact me if you
have anything.
BTW, and Jammers happen to catch Steve Morse play Long Island on March
24th? I heard Petrucci came out and played Cruise Control and The Bash!
For a tape of this, I'll give you my only son. Of course, 4 days
earlier (when I saw him) JP was nowhere to be seen....
-- John DiBella President/Xanadu Records http://idt.net/~rsch1/index.html** Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding A pool in the shape of a heart Beauty projection in the reflection always the worst when it starts **
Dream Theater
* I find it VERY difficult to worship a man who was killed by a toilet bowl... *
John DiBella referring to Elvis in a conversation with his mom regarding whos generation of Rock Stars was more worthy of praise
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:19:05 -0700 From: Pam Doise <ytsepam@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Any post from Dr. Mosh Message-ID: <3559E419.6BE1@earthlink.net>
Aw hell. Mid-MAY, ok? Sheesh. Too much lovin' and the brain goes........
Kerowyn
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:32:34 +0000 From: Alex Fraser <id@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: any post by Dr. Mosh Message-ID: <01IWZIZJP4FG8WW1W8@carleton.edu>
> Uh, Mosh, honey, it's mid-April now...how much closer does it have to > be? Maybe you're panty hose are on too tight?
Umm... K, kiddo, it's mid-May. Daylight Savings time means you spring forward one hour, not fall back one month.
-id
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:29:56 -0500 From: Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Madison Record Stores Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980513132955.00739edc@scott>
I apologize to those you this doesn't concern (most of you), but I've noticed there are a fair number of people on the list from Madison (Ryan Good, Josh Becker, Jason Breitweg (my former physics TA), etc). Anyhow I'm looking for an area record store that carries prog cd's. So far all the ones I've looked at have some DT, and maybe some Fates Warning and that's it. Is there anywhere in Madison with a wider selection, or I am going to have to go through mail order?
Thanks, Joe
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:41:34 -0700 From: Clark Abel <99abel@alma.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Expenisve ear plugs are crap Message-ID: <355A138E.194E@alma.edu>
I just bought the $12 "sonic II" earplugs for the Detroit show last night, because the last time DT played Saint Andrews it killed my ears. Anyway, these are the earplugs with the little metal cylinders in them. The instructions say to put them in so that all the sound goes through the cylinder, and not around the earplug. The cylinder thingy is supposed to filter out all the screaming high end that really makes your ears ring. The fucking things were worthless. They filtered the sound, all right, but all I could hear was the bass and low drums. I mean the guitars (I only wore them for FOTM; I gave up on the earplugs by the time DT came on) were absolutely inaudible with the earplugs in. The weird thing, though, was that they if I covered the little holes in the cylinders with my fingers, effectively making them just like the cheap foam earplugs, they worked pretty well, although they cut the sound even more than I would have liked them to. And my friend, who had the cheap foam ones, said they worked great. Anyway, great show, I really didn't need the earplugs this time. Honestly, the Detroit DT show in October was the worst concert I've ever been to, but last night's was probably the best. The mix was a hundred times better. I don't know if Saint Andrew's got a new soundman or what. -Clark
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:28:40 -0400 From: "Braun, Randall (CAP, ITS, US)" <Randall.Braun@gecits.ge.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Mastermind CD due out later...NDTC Message-ID: <199805131844.OAA06534@thomas.ge.com>
For all you Mastermind fans out there: a note from the Mastermind homepage: http://www.mosquito.com/~bberends/mastermind/ <http://www.mosquito.com/~bberends/mastermind/>
Coming in 1998: M A S T E R M I N D: Excelsior!
"Keeping a low profile last few months, we have been busy recording a new album. Things are very nearly wrapped up at this point and we're shooting for a release later this year. Excelsior! <excelsior_poem.html> according to the poet Longfellow is "the incessant pursuit of higher aspiration" which seemed appropriate. The most notable features of this new work are; it is all instrumental, we have enlisted the talents of [Stratovarious] keyboard virtuoso Jens <http://www.panix.com/~jens/> Johansson with guest appearances by Bob Eckman (5 string bass) and Mike Mironov (tablas)."
Back to your regularly scheduled JAM!
-Randall sent: 5/13/98 11:19 AM PDT email: Randall.Braun@gecits.ge.com **"great is the forest, set by a small flame, like a tongue on fire, no one can tame" from 'Fire in the Hole' by Gary Cherone/Van Halen**
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 11:54:31 -0700 From: Rob Jurado <Jurado@worldnet.att.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HOB stuff/plugs/parking Message-ID: <3559EC67.80930946@worldnet.att.net>
Hi to all, especially those going to HOB, especially, especially, those who have been there before.
How's the sound at HOB? I hope it's good for goodness' sake. So, anyone have any perspective on earplugs for HOB L.A. in particular? I was just going to get the foam ones from Long's Drugs or Sav-On, or whomever. That is, if I don't find some better ones at some music store.
How's parking? I hear you can have the valets do it, but can I just park my car myself in the same garage? Do I have to go early to do that? What? Apologies to the valets and former valets out there. It's not that I don't trust you. I just don't trust most people when it comes to cars, driving, parking, etc. Call me paranoid.
-Rob
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:09:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: "Tedesco, Matthew" <tedescom@BDD.com> Subject: Re: name the song Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980513150900.2559A-100000@tornado.ocis.temple.edu>
> >Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? > >Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? > >Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? > >Why do I have to keep repeating myself ? > > i repeat myself when under stress > i repeat myself when under stress > i repeat myself when under stress > > (name the song)
King Crimson - Indisipline
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 21:04:22 +0200 From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Female Prog Fans Message-ID: <3559EEB6.48783892@stones.com>
>Hey Ytsejammers, >I am a WOMAN and I looooooooove prog rock and DT is my favorite band on >the >entire planet. I knew a few other gals as well who like prog and they >rock in >my book so don't go gay, boys, because we women with TASTE are hard to >find..justwatch out for us. I'll be at the House of Blues shows in LA >both >nights. Can't wait!!! >Ian, John, Joey---ya ready to rock??? RICK/CHARLIE/"D" - I'll be >looking for >ya! >I'll be the short girl with shoulder length straight burgandy red hair >and >green/blue eyes..Screaming my head off freaking out and on cloud 9!!! >hehhee. > > >*Celeste* >SoulShker@aol.com
I`m booking my oversea flight alredy :)
Mat
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:13:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Xanadu Records <rsch1@idt.net> Subject: Re: Any tapes from this "leg" of the tour?!? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980513151030.2559B-100000@tornado.ocis.temple.edu>
> BTW, and Jammers happen to catch Steve Morse play Long Island on March > 24th? I heard Petrucci came out and played Cruise Control and The Bash! > For a tape of this, I'll give you my only son. Of course, 4 days > earlier (when I saw him) JP was nowhere to be seen....
John mentioned this while backstage at the Philly show, when I asked him about playing with Morse. He claims that he only played "Cruise Control" - but he *did* play the show.
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:17:35 -0500 From: Beyond the Mirror <mail@beyondthemirror.com> To: "'YJ Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dumping "Chicks" who hate DT Message-ID: <01BD7E79.EF4597E0.mail@beyondthemirror.com>
>>>...Better to be gay, or not get laid, then compromise >>>your musical integrity. If it ain't prog... it's worthless... ;) >>
Wow, I hope the guys in DT saw that thread. It must be the ultimate flattery to know that some people are more loyal to their band than to their own sexual urges :-)
Personally, I don't go that far. I love DT plenty, but my family (including my wife who doesn't like DT or even my own band) comes first. {{warm fuzzies}}
Josh Becker josh@beyondthemirror.com http://www.beyondthemirror.com
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 15:55:11 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dumping "Chicks" who hate DT Message-ID: <b8938c88.3559faa0@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-13 15:31:33 EDT, Josh Becker wrote:
<< Personally, I don't go that far. I love DT plenty, but my family (including my wife who doesn't like DT or even my own band) comes first. {{warm fuzzies}} >>
Really? No kidding? <<<<<sarcasm
That must provide for some healthy conflict, huh?
My original 'Dump her' comment was based on the fact that she bitched at him for even playing DT in the car. And they were NOT married. He still had time to GET OUT. ;~)
Now, DT is not my wife's favorite music either, but she will at least share it with me, in the car, at home, etc. She has also admitted to liking a lot of I & W. But, I also have the decency not to blast it at high levels when she's around. Plus, she's been with me since Majesty was just a twinkle in a young drummer's eye.
Just some clarification, Kez
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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:37:10 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WINMAIL.DAT Message-ID: <3538E4C6.93708EB2@geocities.com>
Hi there!!!
I saw many posts from Skadz, and thought, "Well, that's not pretty usual, something must have happened." =)
Only one thing, for those whose posts generates that winmail.dat attachment: that's a "feature" of Micro$oft Outlook 97, and if I'm not mistaken there's an update at the Microsoft site that fixes that and many other "features" Microsoft put in that program - and that soon showed up being annoying and useless. Take a look there.
-- []'s /********************************************\ | Marcelo Vanzin | | vanzin@geocities.com | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ | \********************************************/
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:10:58 -0700 From: Ryan Roehrich <ryan@futureone.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tempe show directions Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980513131058.008e5470@mail.futureone.com>
Any kind soul in Tempe care to give directions to ClubRio for the show next week to a person coming from Tucson? I don't know the area around there at all (closest I've been is in the Phoenix airport :) Thanks!
Ryan
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:12:54 -0400 From: David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3890 Message-ID: <199805132010.QAA19142@promail1.ee.net>
"Alan J. Maitland" <AJM@PPL.Providers.Net> Wrote: >I signed up for the Pre-Paid Legal Services, Inc. Extended Family Plan to protect my >family's legal rights last August and decided to sign up the two companies
Go away and get the fuck off this list. I was tricked into going to one of your "pre paid legal" cult seminars by someone who acted like they wanted to purchase a web site from me. Your tactics suck, and you are a multi-level marketing scam. Post once more to this list and suffer the consequences.
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 16:37:23 -0400 From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@CS.WM.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: 5's gone. there is no 5. Message-ID: <199805132037.QAA07941@il.cs.wm.edu>
> > Spoken, of course, by the ubiquitous Kevin Bacon in A Few Good Men. Johhny, > > show 'em what Craig won. > > An American League baseball game. > > -id (reference this!)
Oh, like *I'm* not gonna get a Kenny Mayne reference. :)
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