YTSEJAM digest 3902

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri May 15 1998 - 13:26:36 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3902

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3896
     by Haje Jan Kamps <hajejan@mail.geocities.com>
      2) 2C FOR FEMALES
     by Haje Jan Kamps <hajejan@mail.geocities.com>
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3899
     by Haje Jan Kamps <hajejan@mail.geocities.com>
      4) Kevin's Departing Message?
     by Evan and Vanessa Thomson <evanessa@mira.net>
      5) The DT Melting Pot
     by David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
      6) Goodbye everyone! Summer's here!
     by "CP Parnham" <C.P.Parnham-97@student.lboro.ac.uk>
      7) Anyone got a JPEG of Moore?
     by The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
      8) A Moment Of Silence (NDTC)
     by "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
      9) RE: "IDIOTS" & SV/JP: Deja-Vu! (Jam Error??)
     by "Matt Mommaerts" <mattymo@inxpress.net>
     10) Ft. Worth show
     by "Jeremy Bower" <scruffyj@hotmail.com>
     11) dt/elp/dp
     by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
     12) gift horses
     by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
     13) RE: proggirls
     by Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
     14) Re: kai's credibility/proggirls/for the record
     by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
     15) Platypus Release Date
     by "Andreas Berger" <aberger@waf-online.de>
     16)
     by Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
     17) Waking up from Chicago show
     by Yvette Cooley <beanvet@accessus.net>

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:23:48 -0400
    From: Haje Jan Kamps <hajejan@mail.geocities.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3896
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980515071653.007f0b40@mail.geocities.com>

    >From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
    >To: ytsejam@ax.com
    >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3893
    >Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980514004428.007a37e0@pop3.afn.org>
    >
    >
    >>minorities). I think that white males constitute the majority of prog
    >>rock fans. And that's a really poor reflection on the rest of us
    >
    >And serial killers.
    Uhmm..

    I think this calls for a confession y'all :)

    j/k.

    Anyway.. Are there any "official" CD's from the majesty period?

    Haje Jan Kamps
                        +---------------------+
                        | Haje Jan Kamps |
    +-------------------+---------------------+
    | http://home.sol.no/~lrovers/haje/ |
    +-----------------------------------------+
    |I'm through just getting by |
    |Countless times a friend has told me |
    |Watch out for the wave |
    |Now it seems the sea will be my grave |
    |And still you swim to save me |
    |Even though the water is much colder now |
    | |
    |Dream Theater: Don`t look past me |
    +-----------------------------------------+

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:29:28 -0400
    From: Haje Jan Kamps <hajejan@mail.geocities.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: 2C FOR FEMALES
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980515072752.007fb8e0@mail.geocities.com>

    Hey yall..

    This discussion is confusing me..
    But here is a cut from a conversation

    Amy = A = My g/f
    Haje = H = me

    H Do you mind if I play with your cd changer
    A No.. Go on ahead
    H cool *popping in LTE and AWAKE
    ..
    A (15 minutes later) what is this stuff
    H Dream Theater
    A never heard of em
    H you like it?
    A no.
    H *dissapointed*
    A *smiles* I love it!!

    .. Another dream theater fan was born!

    Haje Jan
                        +---------------------+
                        | Haje Jan Kamps |
    +-------------------+---------------------+
    | http://home.sol.no/~lrovers/haje/ |
    +-----------------------------------------+
    |I'm through just getting by |
    |Countless times a friend has told me |
    |Watch out for the wave |
    |Now it seems the sea will be my grave |
    |And still you swim to save me |
    |Even though the water is much colder now |
    | |
    |Dream Theater: Don`t look past me |
    +-----------------------------------------+

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:29:31 -0400
    From: Haje Jan Kamps <hajejan@mail.geocities.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3899
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980515072910.007dfe00@mail.geocities.com>

    >I just think that Vai's whammy bar and wah wah antics sound annoying.

    Okay.. This question is gonna sound retarded, but it ain't in the FAQ.. sooo..
    What band can I head Vai in? or is he a solo artist?

    Haje Jan
                        +---------------------+
                        | Haje Jan Kamps |
    +-------------------+---------------------+
    | http://home.sol.no/~lrovers/haje/ |
    +-----------------------------------------+
    |I'm through just getting by |
    |Countless times a friend has told me |
    |Watch out for the wave |
    |Now it seems the sea will be my grave |
    |And still you swim to save me |
    |Even though the water is much colder now |
    | |
    |Dream Theater: Don`t look past me |
    +-----------------------------------------+

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 22:00:47 +1000
    From: Evan and Vanessa Thomson <evanessa@mira.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Kevin's Departing Message?
    Message-ID: <355C2E6F.39E28835@mira.net>

    Hey All,

    This is a first two posts from me in two days.
    Speaking of old jammers speaking up again, does anyone on here remember
    back far enough when the message was sent by Kevin Moore's management
    (or the like) saying he was leaving the band?

    It was kind of surreal - and just didn't seem real - or perhaps I just
    didn't want it to be real... :( I took a few 'jams to sink in to the
    group I think.

    More power to Derek, though I do miss Kevin's writing Lyrics and
    music...

    Seeya
    Evan Thomson

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:10:39 -0400
    From: David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: rpandean@mail.usyd.edu.au
    Subject: The DT Melting Pot
    Message-ID: <199805151208.IAA25542@promail1.ee.net>

    Rainer Wrote:
    >I'm not sure whether Petrucci has really got his own style yet (this
    >may not be a fair criticism), but to me his lead playing sounds like a
    >combination of Holdsworth, Morse, Di Meola and a few others while his rhythm
    >playing reminds me of Hetfield and Lifeson. I think he's own unique
    >personality is starting to emerge though. Just my opinion

    Even though I disagree about him not having his own "style", I think I
    understand
    where you're probably getting your opinion from.

    JP's playing is a melting pot of all styles and influences wrapped up into
    one in
    everything he plays, *just* like Dream Theater themselves. To be honest
    with you,
    I really think this is one of the major benefits of listening to DT.

    In my opinion, if a player can manage to incorporate the heaviness of
    Hetfield, the
    virtuosity of Morse, the control of Holdsworth, the speed of Vai, the
    spontanaeity of
    Lifeson, the sweeps of Yngwie, and the suave of DiMeola, all into one
    package, then
    he indeed has achieved a great new style. The best of all worlds, and a
    most well rounded
    guitarist.
    Psychadelic Bluegrass folks :)

    Thanks for sparking that thought Rainer!
    Dave (aka buster) Hatlee

    http://www.dhpc.com/wdadu/

    http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:23:56 +0100
    From: "CP Parnham" <C.P.Parnham-97@student.lboro.ac.uk>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Goodbye everyone! Summer's here!
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980515132356.009129f0@student-mailin.lboro.ac.uk>

    Hello everyone,
                    I just wanted to say that I've enjoyed being a part of this mailing list
    for the last few months but I've got to unsubscribe for 3 months or so
    while I'm away from my e-mail (It's University based and I don't have
    access at home!).
            I'll be back in October on the list, plus you'll probably find me during
    the next 2 weeks on ICQ or IRC.
            Until next time.....

    Chris Parnham IRC:Insania ICQ: 5714076

     _________________________________________________________________________
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    <http://www.vinyltap.co.uk/storm.html>

    When autumn leaves are falling, When twilight's here at last,
    When time seems never ending, When present turns to past,
    When hopes are all we live for, When eyes are closed at night,
    When happiness forever is When dream and day unite.....

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 17:39:17 +0100
    From: The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
    To: "'Multiple recipients of list'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Anyone got a JPEG of Moore?
    Message-ID: <98May15.144447gmt+0100.31373@gate.tranemo.se>

    Hey guys!

    Does anybody have a nice pic, preferrably JPEG, on your drive? Could you
    then please e-mail it to me (nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se)?
    I need it for my examination task (or what the hell you say in English) in
    MS Powerpoint at school. I've made something about DT, and all I'm missing
    is a picture of Kev for his biography screen.

    The only picture I've found was a signed ex from the WDADU cover book (was
    it on UACM?). I'd really like another one.

    I could mail you the finished stuff when I'm done, i.e. if you really want
    to recieve 1,5 Mb of things you already know combined with some of my own
    silly lies.

    Thank you.

    //Per Pettersson
      (skipping the f---kin' signature this time)

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:49:53 -0400
    From: "Giannotti, Nick" <GiannottiN@hanscom.af.mil>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: A Moment Of Silence (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <4AA929543BC8D111A4E800600808ACE52B10BE@HAMSXHA2>

    .. for Frank Sinatra, who passed away at the age of 82. :(
    That sucks.

    Nicholas Giannotti
    JointSTARS Contracts
    giannottin@hanscom.af.mil
    "Save the whales - collect the whole set."

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:29:45 -0500
    From: "Matt Mommaerts" <mattymo@inxpress.net>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: RE: "IDIOTS" & SV/JP: Deja-Vu! (Jam Error??)
    Message-ID: <000201bd8005$86a08320$290710d0@mattymo.inxpress.net>

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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    this was the header that I got for the Jam #3901, and I only got like 2
    posts of it, could someone send me the whole thing?

    ~Matt

    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: ytsejam@ax.com [mailto:nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se]
    >Sent: Friday, May 15, 1998 1:26 AM
    >To: 'ytsejam@ax.com'
    >Subject: Re: "IDIOTS" & SV/JP: Deja-Vu!
    >
    >
    > YTSEJAM Digest 3901
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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 06:48:10 PDT
    From: "Jeremy Bower" <scruffyj@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Ft. Worth show
    Message-ID: <19980515134810.7821.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Ok, after hearing about my friend's fun at the Chicago show, (the man
    with the Majesty banner James paraded around if you were there) and
    meeting the boys, I gotta meet them too! Any Ft. Worth/Dallas jammers
    in the know and planning on going? My brother and I would love to hook
    up with the group. And if He happens to read this post, I'll have a
    black banner with gold lettering at the May 23rd Ft. Worth show! =)
    -Jeremy Bower scruffyj@hotmail.com (8 days!)

    ______________________________________________________
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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:36:42 -0500 (EST)
    From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: dt/elp/dp
    Message-ID: <01IX25AOKRQG002Q7N@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>

    Date sent: 15-MAY-1998 10:32:55

    Otay, thanks all who responded...

    I looked into it, and it turns out that aside from the jones beach show,
    there's one at the PNC bank arts center, which is awesome. I saw QR there
    last year and it was great. I would go there anyday. And anyone who
    wants to complain about not seeing DT in a real venue...shut the fuck up
    and GO TO THE PNC BANK ARTS CENTER!!!! You will not be disappointed.

    I'll probably go to both shows,if I can.

    ............................................................
    Joshua Rasiel
    mailto: rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
    Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 10:49:02 -0500 (EST)
    From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: gift horses
    Message-ID: <01IX25NQSB32002Q7N@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>

    Date sent: 15-MAY-1998 10:43:27

    My cut and paste isn't working....

    To the guy who was wondering how the phrase "don't look a gift horse in the
    mouth" came about... I wondered this at one point, and the best I could
    come up with is that if you're getting free cattle, you shouldn't check the
    teeth for disease or age or whatever because hey, it's free. don't
    complain. The thing is, that explaination doesn't really jibe with the
    meaning that the phrase has, which is more along the lines of "if you
    challenge the purpose of this gift, you will lose it."

    Put another way, the issue is not WHY the $10 CD offer was presented, but
    whether it's a good offer in the first place.

    I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.

    josh

    ............................................................
    Joshua Rasiel
    mailto: rasi2290@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
    Check out Another Page at www.j51.com/~mrasiel. Hot Diggity!

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:01:47 -0700
    From: Carol Dellinger <cdellinger@legato.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: RE: proggirls
    Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980515090147.00a7de90@mail.legato.com>

    Trevor tried to be helpful:

    Are you serious, Coldfire?!? There's got to be at least 50 progguys for
    every proggirl.

    Rockercat also tried to be helpful:

    >Ummmm, Carol, last time I checked, the ration of men to women at prog
    >shows is about 25:1. That makes me smile!!!! :-)

    Um..I guess I forgot to include one *small* reason why the prog guys seem
    to overlook me....
    I'm seriously ugly! And I think that cancels out that fact that I am a
    prog lovin woman!

    Coldfire
    GalleryMistress@dreamt.org

    Gallery of Shadows the Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List
    http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows

    "Fly where your dreams go....." Crystalline Dreams - Shadow Gallery

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:05:34 -0700
    From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: kai's credibility/proggirls/for the record
    Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980515090532.00740658@postoffice.pacbell.net>

    >>>Define West Coast, Lisa. (: I'm stuck in a closet with Pearl
    >>>Jam up in Seattle, and I am afraid that I'm missing out on not
    >>>only 'prog chicks'
    >>Yup, you guessed it... sunny, er, rainy California! If I knew
    >>how to drive a bus, I'd be right there for ya!
    >> Lisa Marie
    >
    >Hey! What about me, Lisa Marie? You still owe me for those SB pictures!
    >:)

    I knew there would be strings attached! Okay, so what do you want?
    Since I already told you I can't drive a bus, should I attempt to get
    something else for you? One of Melody's diapers? One of Derek's women?
    A lock of James' mustache hair? Let me know now, because the show is
    tomorrow! (Yay!)

    See all you Bay Area jammers in SF!!

    :o)

    Lisa Marie
    ytsegirl@pacbell.net
    http://home.pacbell.net/ytsegirl
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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 18:46:22 +0200
    From: "Andreas Berger" <aberger@waf-online.de>
    To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Platypus Release Date
    Message-ID: <01bd8020$fe252d40$LocalHost@p100>

    Hi everybody,
    I have just read on the InsideOut website that the release date for
    "When Pus Comes to Shove" has been pushed back to August...

    Take Care,
    Andreas Berger

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:55:40 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Phil Carter <satriani@negia.net>
    To: Liquid Tension Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980515124451.4633A-100000@peach.negia.net>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

    Just catching up with 'jams after a week out of town. 159 messages
    waiting when I got back -- and I'm in digest mode. Eek.

    Re: the recent "Shredder Deathmatch" post: Eckie, get some help. Or stop
    playing so much Quake. :) :)

    Dr. Mosh screamed:
    > You people are idiots!!! Ear plugs are a scam!!! Haven't you realized
    > that the only way to improve your hearing is to listen to L O U D music?
    > Excercise those eardrum muscles!! FEEL IT LOUD MOTHERTRUCKERS...

    This reminds me of a Fox Trot cartoon I saw once. Jason is standing by
    Peter's stereo, hand on the volume knob. Peter is sitting on his bed,
    earphones on.

    Peter: Go. (Jason turns up the knob)
    Louder...louder.....louder.....perfect. (at this point his head is
    vibrating from the music's volume)

    (seconds later, he takes off the earphones).

    Peter: Hey, it worked! My earwax is gone!

    Jason: Interesting. Metallica as Q-Tip.

    Peter: Did you say something?

    *smirk*

    Jani remarked:
    > Vai is the master of making guitar
    > sound like something else.

    Actually, that would be Ron Thal. Where's Madsman when you need him? After
    picking up Thal's album "The Adventures of Bumblefoot", I will never look
    at a guitar the same way.

    Vai's pretty good at it too, though...

    Ta,
    Phil

    =======================================================================
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    Senior Tech, NorthEast Georgia Internet Access, 546-5787
            "To do is to be." -- Plato
            "To be is to do." -- Aristotle
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    Currently playing: Rush -- "Permanent Waves"

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    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 12:41:37 -0500
    From: Yvette Cooley <beanvet@accessus.net>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Waking up from Chicago show
    Message-ID: <01BD7FFE.CE0385C0@mtv-i-1-96.accessus.net>

    Just now waking up from the long trip to Chicago, back down around =
    St.Louis way, but definitely stayed in Chicago the night of the concert. =
    All I can say is that the show was spectacular! For my first time seeing =
    DT, it was more than I expected. They are the most musically inclined =
    gentlemen I've ever seen, the crowd showed them one of the best welcomes =
    I've ever heard, and I think they noticed it also. After hanging out for =
    awhile after the show, got to meet, Labrie,Petrucci,and Portnoy, some of =
    the nicest guys I've ever met in the music industry, I respect the way =
    they handle themselves. (Thanks guys). My highlight was my girlfriend =
    getting my SABIAN shirt signed by Mike. It was nice seeing so many =
    dedicated fans there also, that's what these guys deserve. We were =
    driving home the next day, and stopped at Effingham to eat at =
    TGIFridays, and I heard on the speakers some shitty Hanson, and I =
    thought to myself, (why does this Hanson music/shit even exist, when we =
    have such underated bands such as DT, it just does'nt make since =20

    James

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