YTSEJAM digest 3908

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Mon May 18 1998 - 03:29:41 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 3908

    Today's Topics:

      1) quotes
     by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
      2) Re: Lefter Coaster
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
      3) Re: It's like, you know? Brah! (NDTC)
     by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
      4) Re: It's like, you know? Brah! (NDTC)
     by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
      5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3906
     by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
      6) Re: Baked
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
      7) Re: LTE
     by Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
      8) Music that Kicks Ass -- Buckshot Lefonque
     by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
      9) DT summer tour date ????
     by Steve Zebrowski <steve@fuzzfactor.com>
     10) NDTC, System help
     by David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
     11) Re: LTE sound clips?
     by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
     12) Kevin Moore on The Simpsons???
     by belhai <belhai@drew.edu>
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3901
     by Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
     14) DT PLAYED RAISE THE KNIFE???
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
     15) DT concert at LiveConcerts.com NOW
     by "Jeff Hochberg" <jeffhochberg@hotmail.com>
     16) Re: DT PLAYED RAISE THE KNIFE???
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
     17) Jumping on the Majesty Demo Bandwagon!
     by Nick Storr <nick_storr@mail.onaustralia.com.au>
     18) Anna Lee...
     by Adam Pye <alpineone@mindspring.com>
     19) Re: World Without DT
     by Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au>
     20) Dream Theater Live at the House of Blues CD
     by Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com>

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 21:56:35 +0000 (Local time zone must be set--see zic manual page)
    From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: quotes
    Message-ID: <13663.23782.281505.667688@wicked.stigmata.org>

    for all you irc nuts, randquote now has an additional 824 quotes in
    it. don't bother me for a while :P

    skadz

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    Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:08:39 +0200
    From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
    To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Lefter Coaster
    Message-ID: <01BD81F1.1F5F90A0@MARK>

      George Nowik wrote :

    > Lisa Marie darling, I would be happy to teach
    > you how to drive a bus. Really I would. *grin*

      Could you please teach her how to fly an airplane instead ?

      Mark Bredius ;-)
      ____________________________________________________________
      Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon (dedicated to Lisa Marie,
      * http://www.prognosis.com/dream * look in the left frame.)

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:14:02 +0200
    From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: It's like, you know? Brah! (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <355F0CCA.F79021C@stones.com>

    / Matej "I am not a Ptacek" Grginic boasted:
    / >Don`t even try to pronounce it hehehe (especially the surname)
    / >U gotta love these european names :)
    /
    / My guess is Mat-ay Gerginitz. Not to be confused with
    / Papa Smurf's arch enemy, Gargamel.

    U guys are hilarious!! Well u got it pretty close actually.
    The name is okay, the C in the end of the surname is actually
    a letter C with a `lil V above it and pronounces as CH...
    Also the E (as you put it) after G is kinda silent so it
    makes it one helluva tough job for you guys to pronounce it!
    U could say I have a kinda "progressive" name LOL! :o)

    Cheers!

    Matej "I am not Gargamel!" Grginic, smurfs fan!

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:36:18 -0500
    From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: It's like, you know? Brah! (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <002001bd81ec$97f93ac0$b2c95bd1@emc.caribe.net>

    |Also the E (as you put it) after G is kinda silent so it
    |makes it one helluva tough job for you guys to pronounce it!
    |U could say I have a kinda "progressive" name LOL! :o)

    so it's like, "Matay Gurginich"? Heheh.

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:04:09 +0200
    From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3906
    Message-ID: <355F0A79.1FD8A6BB@stones.com>

    / << Vai is a guitarist (ie sacrifices songwriting for pure shredding)
    / >>
    /
    / What the fuck kind of idiotic bullshit is that? You must be another
    / one of
    / those dumbasses who listens to everyone else bitch at Vai because he /
    can play
    / fast.
    / Apparantly you've had your head shoved to far up your ass to actually
    / LISTEN
    / to some of his songs, like, lets see, Die To Live, touching nothing /
    over 8th
    / notes, or how about Hand On Heart?
    / Watch what you say unless you know exactly what your talking
    / about.

    Okay pal, if u noticed I jumped at this guy a few digests earlier.
    We settled the argument in private and I assure you that he didn`t
    mean it the way it sounded! I`m sure all Vaiheads understood it as
    a cold shower, but read his post again after a couple of beers and u`ll
    see that it actually makes some sense :)

    / Andy D
    / The Next Steve Vai

    Are you from outofspace too????

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:10:13 +0000
    From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@spiff.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Baked
    Message-ID: <199805172308.QAA21801@odin.ax.com>

    > That was I. Hugo needs to get on the jam, he's already a ytse celebrity!
    > The first thing he would do is make his claim to be better than Portnoy!
    > Could you imagine the response that would generate. He is kinda' funny though.
    I thought it was either you or Ptacek that said that. I told a
    stoner friend of mine that quote the next night and he appreciated it
    :). And he definitely should be on the jam. I think I
    remember someone describing a real jammer to him as someone who knows
    what kind of emery boards Derek uses to file down his toenails (I
    think that was you, too :).

    Dale R. Newberry
    drnewb@spiff.net

    "By the time they had dimished from 50 to 8, the
     other dwarves began to suspect 'Hungry.'"
     -Gary Larson

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:22:14 +0200
    From: Matej Grginic <matej@stones.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: LTE
    Message-ID: <355F0EB6.9FBE8339@stones.com>

    Graham "Sarcasm" Boyle did it again *grin* :

    / Yep, it's a secret experiment that NASA astronauts carried out on a
    / recent
    / mission to Uranus...
    /
    / graham

    It was Mars!!! "BlackLight Syndrome" was the Uranus thingy!

    Matej

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 20:42:08 -0400
    From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Music that Kicks Ass -- Buckshot Lefonque
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980517204208.007ae910@pop3.afn.org>

    "No Pain, No Gain" by Buckshot Lefonque
    http://www.afn.org/~afn39111/nopain.zip

    Okay, we've recently gone through yet another spat of rap bashing here on
    the jam, which means I want to show that not all rap is bad. Buckshot
    Lefonque is one of Branford Marsalis's projects. They play rap, hip hop,
    jazz fusion, r&b and funk. Branford rips on sax (I'm not generally a
    Marsalis fan, but on this and with Bela Fleck he kicks).

    This song, "No Pain, No Gain," is pretty heavy, but the first thing I
    noticed about it, as I was also reading, the first time I listened to the
    album, was, "Hey, isn't that Bela Fleck's banjo and Howard Levy on harp?"
    Talk about sampling, this is the first rap song to sample from Bela Fleck
    and the Flecktones in my knowledge. Victor Wooten also guests on bass.
    Albert Collins shreds on funky guitar.

    Give it a listen. I think it's pretty cool. It's only a 2 meg mp3 so it's
    not a lot of trouble to give rap another chance, is it? Buckshot Lefonque
    has 2 albums, their self-titled, which this is from, and MUSIC EVOLUTION,
    which has my fave song, "Jungle Grove," which is jungle (obviously).

    Next week, or later this week if I can find one short enough, I'll give
    another example of good rap music, from Vernon Reid's MISTAKEN IDENTITY.

       "It's going to be either me or everyone else I kill,
        so pray for my quick suicide." - afn39111@afn.org
        This is who I am. -O- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111/

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 22:44:03 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Steve Zebrowski <steve@fuzzfactor.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: DT summer tour date ????
    Message-ID: <199805180244.WAA15375@fuzzfactor.com>

    Is there a FINALIZED list of dates/venues for the DT/DP/ELP tour this
    summer? If so, could it be posted to the 'jam? If it already has just
    tell me I'm a fucking idiot.

    and I mean a REAL list, not a list of TBA's and possible dates. :)

    Did anyone catch X-Files tonight? Woah...

    Steve Z

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 23:14:08 -0400
    From: David Hatlee <dhatlee@dhpc.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: NDTC, System help
    Message-ID: <199805180311.XAA04286@promail1.ee.net>

    >My Dad thought it would be useful to delete the "system.ini" file from my
    >computer, and I had to format my hard drive, so I lost my precious

    Eeeks thats rough man!

    For future reference, windows95 keeps a backup of a lot of your important
    system files in the C:\WINDOWS\SYSBACKUP folder. Many times you can
    replace a file like that by booting to just a DOS prompt (maybe with boot
    disk)
    and copying it from the sysbackup folder to the system folder and rebooting.

    Sorry for the NDTC, but thought this might save some folks future headaches...

    Dave (aka buster) Hatlee

    http://www.dhpc.com/wdadu/

    http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/

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    Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 22:55:37 -0500
    From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: LTE sound clips?
    Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19970517225537.007c0e90@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>

    >Besides that, is there a sound clip of the album somewhere? I'd sure
    >like to hear it first (don't tell me "hear your radio", because radios
    >over here do more than SUCK, and they definitely are not any help). I
    >mean, I firmly believe in "try before you buy"...

    I have soundclips of my friend playing track #1 and track #8, intros only.
    you should be able to get some at under a cyber moon I think

    ---
    Alan Estrada Adler
    ICQ #9267174
    Personal Page:
    http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025
    Shredder's Lair:
    http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/
    "You've got your whole life to write your 
     first album, and six months to do the next one."
    Monterrey, Mexico
    al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx
    

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    Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:09:45 -0500 (EST) From: belhai <belhai@drew.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Cc: Elliott Kim <ekim@gate.net> Subject: Kevin Moore on The Simpsons??? Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.980518000612.539216033A-100000@drew.edu>

    Did anyone else watch this show tonight? Anyways, I've never noticed this before, but in the credits at the end of the show, it says:

    Prop Design: Jefferson R. Weekley Kevin N. Moore

    Who knows who will be in the credits next week. :)

    Brandon

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    Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 23:07:49 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3901 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19970517230749.007be270@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>

    today is the dream theater broadcast at liveconcerts.com dont miss it --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174 Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/ "You've got your whole life to write your first album, and six months to do the next one." Monterrey, Mexico al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx

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    Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:38:25 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: Ytse Jam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT PLAYED RAISE THE KNIFE??? Message-ID: <355FBB41.8EA45AA1@caribe.net>

    Im listening to the real audio broadcast of the 5/17 show and THEYRE PLAYING RAISE THE KNIFE! WITH VOCALS!!!!!!!!!!

    --

    In the stream of consciousness There is a river crying Living comes much easier Once we admit , We're dying. Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229

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    Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 21:52:03 PDT From: "Jeff Hochberg" <jeffhochberg@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT concert at LiveConcerts.com NOW Message-ID: <19980518045204.22324.qmail@hotmail.com>

    Anyone in Ytse-Land who's on-line right now (and in non-digest mode, obviously), get your ass over to www.liveconcerts.com NOW. The DT show is about to start. They are still playing the demos - "Raise the Knife" just ended and they're in the middle of "Where Are You Now" and checking mics and stuff. Hurry!

    Jeff

    ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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    Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 00:55:23 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT PLAYED RAISE THE KNIFE??? Message-ID: <355FBF3B.B61B8F68@caribe.net>

    Carlos Alfaro wrote:

    > Im listening to the real audio broadcast of the 5/17 show and THEYRE > PLAYING RAISE THE KNIFE! WITH VOCALS!!!!!!!!!! >

    I have to reply to myself for speaking too soon.. they were broeadcasting the opening demo tracks they played at the begining of the shows!! darn

    > -- > > In the stream of consciousness > There is a river crying > Living comes much easier > Once we admit , We're dying. > Dream Theater: Lines in the Sand > http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro > Tech Support Rep : Caribbean Internet Service > mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytseprog@yahoo.com > Universal Internet Number (ICQ) 1254229

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    Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:24:21 +1000 From: Nick Storr <nick_storr@mail.onaustralia.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Jumping on the Majesty Demo Bandwagon! Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980518152416.00826940@mail.onaustralia.com.au>

    Hey all.

    If anyone does post out those majesty demos, I'd love them too! Thanks.

    Nick Storr nick_storr@onaustralia.com.au

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    Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 01:54:40 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Anna Lee... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980518015440.007d6d00@mindspring.com>

    Hey folks...

    Funny. As I sit here with the screen appearing a bit hazy and the sudden urge to eat everything I can get my hands on, and, of course, listening to the LA HOB DT show ('dat some acronyms for ya) on liveconcerts.com, I find myself really liking Anna Lee. I really thought that song was a dud when I first bought FII, but live it's completely different. Good stuff...

    Anyone listening to this thing hear James make a fool out of himself again? Right after I meet him in Philly and had a good time talking to him he's gotta make fun of the fact they're broadcasting over the 'net. I remember a thread way back in the day discussing whether James was anti-inet or not. Were there any conclusions there?

    Take care...

    PS. Who yelled "we love you all" (Ozzy reference) during Hollow Years during this show? Sounds like Mike?

    __________________________________________________ Adam Pye (Alpine/Alpineone/Alpione) alpineone(-at-)mindspring.com ICQ: 9382967 http://www.mindspring.com/~alpineone/tapelist.html ^ Above URL for bootlist w/ setlists __________________________________________________

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    Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:45:48 +1000 From: Luke Bateup <slslb@winshop.com.au> To: phobos@net-lynx.com Subject: Re: World Without DT Message-ID: <355FD91C.486D@winshop.com.au>

    Kurt jammed:

    > Forgive me if this has been asked before, but if someone went back in > time and erased Dream Theater from human history, who would your > favorite band be today?

    > After hearing A Pleasant Shade of Gray, I'd like to say Fates > Warning...but the truth is that if it weren't for Dream Theater I > never would have bought a Fates Warning album.

    Well usually I say Angra's my fav bands after DT, but I wouldn't have bought any Angra discs if I hadn't gotten into DT either.

    So I would have to say I'd probably still be in my 'previous listening mentality' and be listening to 'previous' bands like Soundgarden, Live, Stone Temple Pilots and Cypress Hill. Since I was clueless about music too and little more than one of the sheep, I'd probably right now be into others bands like MatchBox 20 and shit like that....

    God Bless Dream Theater....

    Luke.

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    Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 03:00:14 -0400 From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@Sage-Enterprises.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dream Theater Live at the House of Blues CD Message-ID: <0B40DF9FD0DBD111B8F50060971611D5125F1E@BUDLITE>

    This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

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    Hey everyone,

    By the time you will read this, I will have recorded the Dream Theater performance at the House of Blues live from www.liveconcerts.com. Due to some technical difficulties (not caused by me, but by LiveConcerts), it was _not possible_ to get a flawless recording because their live connection at a high bandwidth was lost about 30 minutes into the show and didn't work for about 20 minutes. And, at the end, the same problem occurred. (In the beginning of Metropolis I) So, about 2/3 of the show was recordable at the highest possible bandwidth.

    What I plan on doing is this. Under the same label that has released Fasten Your Seatbelts, a compilation of the best tracks from Dream Theater's performance at the House of Blues will be available on CD very soon. (For those of you who haven't received your copy of FYS yet - it's coming! Finals are upon me, so I haven't been able to send out the orders, but they are in fact ready!) Here's what has come out perfectly well:

    ACOS I/II Just Let Me Breathe Burning My Soul Lines in the Sand Caught in a Web (w/ drum solo) Peruvian Skies Guitar Solo (Paradigm Shift, Flight of the Bumblebee) Pull Me Under Trial of Tears

    Voices, Hollow Years, and Anna Lee were all lost to shit because of the unfortunate souls at LiveConcerts. (I did grab them at a 30kbps stream though) And, I did lose Metropolis at the end too because the server went down AGAIN!!! (Screw that website!)

    So, I will take the best 74 minutes of the above tracks and put them onto one CD. The quality is probably going to be the same as Stream of Consciousness, considering that boot was also recorded via LiveConcerts.

    I will let you know the exact details of the CD later this week. I just want people to know how the broadcast came out and how they will have a chance to get it on a CD.

    Take care, Nick Bogovich

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    <P><FONT SIZE=2>Hey everyone,</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT SIZE=2>By the time you will read this, I will have recorded the Dream Theater</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>performance at the House of Blues live from www.liveconcerts.com.&nbsp; Due</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>to some technical difficulties (not caused by me, but by LiveConcerts),</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>it was _not possible_ to get a flawless recording because their live</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>connection at a high bandwidth was lost about 30 minutes into the show</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>and didn't work for about 20 minutes.&nbsp; And, at the end, the same problem</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>occurred.&nbsp; (In the beginning of Metropolis I)&nbsp; So, about 2/3 of the show was</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>recordable at the highest possible bandwidth.</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT SIZE=2>What I plan on doing is this.&nbsp; Under the same label that has released</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Fasten Your Seatbelts, a compilation of the best tracks from Dream</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Theater's performance at the House of Blues will be available on CD</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>very soon.&nbsp; (For those of you who haven't received your copy</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>of FYS yet - it's coming!&nbsp; Finals are upon me, so I haven't been able</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>to send out the orders, but they are in fact ready!)&nbsp; Here's what </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>has come out perfectly well:</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT SIZE=2>ACOS I/II</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Just Let Me Breathe</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Burning My Soul</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Lines in the Sand</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Caught in a Web (w/ drum solo)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Peruvian Skies</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Guitar Solo (Paradigm Shift, Flight of the Bumblebee)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Pull Me Under</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Trial of Tears</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT SIZE=2>Voices, Hollow Years, and Anna Lee were all lost to shit because of the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>unfortunate souls at LiveConcerts.&nbsp; (I did grab them at a 30kbps stream though)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>And, I did lose Metropolis at the end too because the server went down </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>AGAIN!!!&nbsp; (Screw that website!)</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT SIZE=2>So, I will take the best 74 minutes of the above tracks and put them onto</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>one CD.&nbsp; The quality is probably going to be the same as Stream of Consciousness, </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>considering that boot was also recorded via LiveConcerts.</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT SIZE=2>I will let you know the exact details of the CD later this week.&nbsp; I just</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>want people to know how the broadcast came out and how they will have a chance</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>to get it on a CD.</FONT> </P>

    <P><FONT SIZE=2>Take care,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Nick Bogovich</FONT> </P>

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