YTSEJAM Digest 3920
Today's Topics:
1) Lubbock DT show questions
by "Ryan Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
2) Quit whining already!
by trilogypart4@juno.com (Jeffrey A Sobel)
3) hey folks! (L.A. + Tour Books for sale)
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
4) Review: Arizona show 5/20 [NO SPOILERS]
by Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
5) PROG-O-RAMA #2 this Saturday!
by Mats "Rydstr?m" <rydstrom@rocketmail.com>
6) whats happening???
by DragynLMC3 <DragynLMC3@aol.com>
7) speak to me
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
8) Testing.........
by KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com>
9) hello?
by "Jeremy Bower" <scruffyj@hotmail.com>
10) Re: Next Vai
by EVO V <EVOV@aol.com>
11) Ytsejam Digest 3916
by Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com>
12) DT in Sheffield, UK????
by "CP Parnham" <C.P.Parnham-97@student.lboro.ac.uk>
13) hello?
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@umdnj.edu>
14) Re: Phish
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
15) Site of the week thingy
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
16) Re: HELP
by Mellotonic <Mellotonic@aol.com>
17) San Antonio/ Bluebonnet palace show
by Tone add9 <Toneadd9@aol.com>
18) FT: Mosaic from Prism Records
by "J. Kerr" <digitalmusik@bigfoot.com>
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 02:04:00 -0500
From: "Ryan Whitaker" <David-Whitaker@worldnet.att.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Lubbock DT show questions
Message-ID: <006801bd8486$b808a3e0$f501430c@dwhit>
Hey everybody! Looks like I just made the executive decision to not go to
just the San Antonio and Ft. Worth shows, but also the Lubbock! I did a
little 'driving directions' query on the Yahoo map service, and it turns out
the Lubbock show is only 345 miles away from me (Dallas). Averaging 70 mph,
it should take me a little less than 5 hours to make it. Time to start
making minidiscs for the drive. =)
I called Ralph's Records in Lubbock, and the guy told me to not worry about
reserving a ticket because there was a ton left. Doh! Anyway, my question
for the Lubbock show is this: I'm coming in on I-20 from Dallas. Somebody
please e-mail me the exact directions to the club from I-20. This would
make life a lot easier.
Special thanks go to Nicole Stachowicz McWatters and her informative site
about the three Texas shows. Her URL is:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039/dt.html
I'm bringing my DAT machine to all three shows. So if you talk to me during
one of them, I'm going to take you to the ground. =) Mike Portnoy promised
me soundboard feeds for all three shows, but I declined, as I prefer the
ambient feel of an audience recording. pshaw..
I'm outta here for now. See you all at the shows!
Ryan Whitaker
Scarred Records
http://www.geocities.com/soho/2236
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 03:10:55 -0400
From: trilogypart4@juno.com (Jeffrey A Sobel)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Quit whining already!
Message-ID: <19980521.031056.11238.0.trilogypart4@juno.com>
I'm really getting tired of these stupid arguments about moshing.
Who cares. Everyone is at the show at their own risk so if you get hurt
that is just too bad.
Oh I almost forgot, has anybody heard of Spell Check? Nobody will
ever take you seriously if you can't even spell. Proofread for crying
out loud!
Jeff
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 01:17:11 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: hey folks! (L.A. + Tour Books for sale)
Message-ID: <199805210818.BAA02871@cats.ucsc.edu>
Well, just got back from my Great L.A. adventure about two hours ago (and
spent the last hour reading my waiting email)
I won't post about how absolutely kickass the Monday HoB show was -- Mike
P, If you are reading this: Thanks so much for the alternate setlist! I'm
the guy who talked to you about in in San Fran when you mentioned you would
do it Monday night. What a blast.
Sorry I didn't get to meet all of the L.A. area Jammers. My friend Ruth
and I ended up parking in a garage that closed hald an hour after the show
ended, and I didn't want to end up with my car in prison :) so we had to
leave right away. Still, it was good seeing Dino (Mosh) and Rick again,
and meeting John K. Perhaps next time ... ?
And, in general, the House of Blues is an amazing place to see a show. We
need one of those up here in the Bay Area.
As I mentoined before, I picked up two extra Tour books at the San
Francisco show. I got a possible buyer for one, but have one more open.
It'll be $12 + shipping (my cost) -- lemme know if interested.
I'm still trying to figure out why my sig gets munged in the jam, so I'm
leaving it out of this post for your viewing pleasure. :)
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 02:34:35 -0700
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@goodnet.com>
Subject: Review: Arizona show 5/20 [NO SPOILERS]
Message-ID: <3563F52B.54E@goodnet.com>
That's right, no spoilers so don't worry, you don't have to skip this
if you're still waiting to see Dream Theater.
The nutshell review for those in a hurry: it was real good.
The long review:
Why is it that "event staff" people all over the world have to be
obnoxious glandular freaks? Allow me to add detail to this vague
hypothesis.
I show up at Club Rio at around 4pm, since I know the band will be way
too busy later on, and I basically just walk right into the venue with a
pile of CDRs for Mike Portnoy under my arm, and the band crew asks who
the hell I am and that I'm not allowed there, but I showed them that I
had some stuff to drop off for Mike, and they were cool with it. DT's
crew is definitely a lot friendlier now than in the Jim Pitulski/Todd
Confessore days. Their tech/effects guy (the guy by the side of the
stage with the laptop) is one cool fellow, and we shoot the shit for a
while as I wait for Mike to get done with a photo shoot for a
distinguished lady of the local press. FXguy gets a little testy when it
looks like I'm sneaking a peek at the setlist, but I assure him that I
have no desire to spoil the surprise, and that he has nothing to worry
about. Then, over walks the Portmeister.
If I don't mention it later, before I forget, I gotta say this guy is
the ultimate fan's musician. He himself is DT's biggest fan, and I've
never met a person with as good an attitude as his that has to meet and
greet as many strangers as he does every day. Mike was holding a little
bundle of joy named Melody Portnoy, and I can't remember seeing a cuter
baby in the recent past. Marlene Portnoy was there looking blonder than
I remembered her from back in New York in '95, so either she dyed it
blonde or she's an actual blonde who had it dyed dark the last time I
saw her. Mike himself had "frosted"/highlighted hair... overall brown
and almost blond in spots, over the base black. James, as many of you
know, now sports short hair with Black Black Black Black Numbah One!!!
coloring in it. I don't know why I remember this stuff, but I do.
Anyway Mike and Marlene are both downright jovial, they're so friendly,
and Mike and I chat about a few things in the few minutes he has before
he has to get back to work. I manage to somehow mooch aftershow passes
from him. I don't think I'll ask for them next time... I think Mike has
done more than enough for me already, and I'll be content to enjoy the
show from here on out, I think. This doesn't mean I'll refuse the passes
if offered, of course. I ain't stupid. :)
So it's time to get into line. My wife Melissa and my brother in law
Joe are at the front of the line, where they had been waiting since the
moment we got to the venue (way ahead of pretty much everyone) but the
lady working event staff tells me that if I'm on the guestlist, I'll
need to wait at the side door. No problem, says I. So I wait there. As
the hours go on, the line grows LONG, and then they start letting people
in, and I find out from the nice lady at the side door that I was
supposed to wait in the normal line all along! Argh! She tells me to
just go up to the front and explain the situation, and that they'd let
me go right on in. So I get there, and this gigantic staff asshole
decides he's gonna get right in my FACE and tell me to go to the END of
the line (behind the 700 people who got there ten minutes ago) or I can
just go right on home. Any attempt by me to feebly explain what happened
is met with a thunderous, "No, you're going to GO to the back of the
line, or I'll have you dragged right out of here!" My sole comfort came
from the fact that I saw the guy get reprimanded for it when the nice
little lady asks him "if you let in that nice guy who was on the guest
list that I sent over to this line." Apparently SHE was the boss. Good
for her. I know most of you don't care about this sort of thing, but you
might as well have a laugh at my expense, since it's already over with.
:)
So in I go, my folks have already staked out a nice plot over by the
right-side column (those of you at Rio know what I mean) with a nice
direct view of the stage. Little did I know HAIR-MAN would stand in
front of me, obscuring my view throughout most of the show, starting
later when DT's set began.
Full on the Mouth... ain't too bad really. They depend too much on
prerecorded samples and such, and their more straightforward style of
play is a mismatch for DT. They should have been opening for Megadeth or
Slayer or something. I don't have any real complaints about them other
than those. They played tight and got on well with the crowd. The songs
were decent, and congrats to them for their videogame soundtrack
contract... it'd be cool if the guys in DT could get that. (wink)
DT's set took place next. I won't spoil anything, suffice it to say
that they were hamming it up all over the place, they added a few choice
songs to the set and did the usual "cover tidbits" within some of the
more common songs. Petrucci was in high form and seemed determined to be
heard no matter what the current material was. Talk about all over the
place!! Portnoy, for whom overplaying is an art the way touchdown
celebration dances are for Neon Deion, did not disappoint. Joe (my
bro-i-law) was in absolute disbelief after watching most of Mike's
better drum rolls, fills, accents, and such. The audience-participation
stuff went over just great. James and Mike both apologized to the crowd
for it being nearly four years since they had played Arizona, and
promised it wouldn't be nearly as long the next time, hinting at a tour
with Deep Purple this fall and a new album early next year. I can
definitely appreciate that!!
DT's set was over two and a half hours. I get the general idea they
went too long, because apparently they had a problem with a curfew
locally and had to not do an aftershow meet & greet!!! So I guess the
passes were just keepsakes... cool ones, though. The band DID oblige the
mob outside by hanging out by the bus to sign guitars, tourbooks,
tickets, CD liners, and such. A real great bunch of guys, them. We don't
get given the bad news gently... another huge ruffian decides to kick us
all out of the venue at a very high volume, despite our, "But look!
We've got passes!" pleas. "Ain't no after-show, the club's closing RIGHT
NOW!!!" was the enraged reply. You know, what strikes me most odd about
this and the other guy's behaviour towards me and mine that night was
not what they said, but how they said it. They could have told us that
stuff in a totally neutral/offhand/straightforward tone and we'd have
just accepted it at face value. But no, they had to shove it up our ass
and twist. I guess there's just no dealing with some people.
Problems: the sound. Way too loud. Rio has shitty acoustics, so I don't
know how much of this was/is DT's fault. I'll give them the benefit of
the doubt. Other problems: Rio's staff was clearly cooperating with DT's
staff in name only. I saw nothing but professionalism from DT's people,
and nothing but horseshit from the locals, and that's without even
considering the two run-ins I had with them personally. I'm glad DT was
able to play Arizona AT ALL (last year the club they were going to play
[Electric Ballsack] lost its liquor license and they had to cancel at
the last moment!!) but here's hoping they can arrange for a better venue
next time. My recommendations: Mesa Ampitheatre, Cajun House in
Scottsdale, and/or Gibson's in Tempe (two miles from Club Rio!!).
Positives: Damn near everything else. My companions all agreed it was
the best concert they had ever been to, and I'm gonna have to concur
with them. (And I've seen hundreds of shows!) I never heard James' voice
crack... not ONCE. I never heard Mike miss a beat. Even Derek's
fumblefingers were on their best behaviour... usually he can't go
through a show without at least one or two biffs, but none were audible
from where I stood. John Myung had some sort of string problem late in
the show but was fantastic as far as performance goes. And John
Petrucci... man, whatever he was on, gimme some of that. The man was all
over the place. Most excellent. And turnout was quite high, especially
for a band that hadn't been there since 12/5/1994.
No, I didn't run DAT this time. I had, until today, been to seven DT
shows, and only once did I relax and just enjoy the show without
recording it (12/29/95, since others were already taping it). I decided
that this was going to be another of those nights. I was in a mood to
just stand back and let DT work their magic on my mind. Um, besides, my
mics are broken. :) I wouldn't have taped it anyway, though, because
Stream of Consciousness sounds better than any audience tape. And
because, hang it all, I've probably done more than enough DT boots for a
while.
Overall... if you missed it... you'd better have been injured or dying
or something, because this show was better than sex. :) Come back any
time DT, you're most welcome here in the land of the infernal heat.
I hope this posts to the 'Jam, because I know it's long.
-- - Mike Bahr - Prism Records - Duelists' Convocation Level 2 Certified Judge - d u r n i k @ g o o d n e t . c o m - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik/------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 02:52:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mats "Rydstr?m" <rydstrom@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PROG-O-RAMA #2 this Saturday! Message-ID: <19980521095203.909.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>
It's PROG-O-RAMA time once again!
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PROG-O-RAMA is the choice for all you 21st Century Schizoid Men. We play the kind of music you won't hear anywhere else: progressive, symphonic, psychedelic rock, metal, fusion and jazz.
Tune in, prog on, freak out!
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:10:59 EDT From: DragynLMC3 <DragynLMC3@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: whats happening??? Message-ID: <5be6bc2e.356419d4@aol.com>
is the jam down or were the AOLers kicked off again? havent gotten any posts in a few days now. someone tell me whats goin on!!
~Lisa dragynlmc3@aol.com The Dragyn's Lair http://members.aol.com/dragynlmc3/DragynsLair.html
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 05:25:24 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: speak to me Message-ID: <30434A6945ABD1119A3A00A024D1C34170A2A4@ms.kallback.com>
>From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com> >I really dug the song 'Speak to Me.' That should be on a CD.
It is. It's on the bonus disk that comes with the Japanese FII. Trevor
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 08:47:29 EDT From: KEZCOM <KEZCOM@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Testing......... Message-ID: <d83b61ae.35642262@aol.com>
Just seeing if anyone was out there.
Test Test
Dream Theater kicks my ass.
Kez
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 06:27:07 PDT From: "Jeremy Bower" <scruffyj@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: hello? Message-ID: <19980521132707.19372.qmail@hotmail.com>
hmmm, everyone must be out enjoying the concerts and not emailing in here....or maybe since the moshing thread got smashed there's nothing else to talk about, or, my email sucks and I'm not getting the jams. =) Anyhoo, looking forward to seeing everyone at the Ft. Worth show this sat, at the Caravan of Dreams (how appropriate)! My bro and I will be there with our jam t-shirts on, tho I dont' know about at Billy Miners b4hand since I'm 20 and he's 19. Oh, and a quick plead with Mike if he happens to read this b4 the show on sat: Mike, how about you guys play an entire songs of teasers? =) String about 20 seconds each of 20 songs together and go! It'd be the sweetest agony ever heard. Or, just stay outside the venue for a long time after the show so we can meet and greet, that'd be ok too. =)
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:38:19 EDT From: EVO V <EVOV@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Next Vai Message-ID: <7d14f85e.35642e4c@aol.com>
Wow, I'm amazed, this is the first amount of encouragement I've had about the name since I started using almost a year ago. I really appreciate it. People flame me all the time for the tag, so I wrote a letter to Steve asking what he thought of it. It took him a little bit of time to finally understand what I meant, as it does with 99.9% of all other people, but after he was totally cool with it and has no problem with it. Steve's generally an extremely nice guy, if you have a belief he'll stand by you with it no matter what his belief on it is, which I truly admire. He's got a very, VERY deep sense of humor, half the time I'm trying to stop from falling off my chair after I read his mails from laughing so much. I've gotta split. See ya Andy D The Next Steve Vai
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:48:50 EDT From: Devs0432 <Devs0432@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytsejam Digest 3916 Message-ID: <4464c36e.356430c3@aol.com>
Is something up or is it just AOL screwing with me again? I haven't gotten a 'jam since Tuesday, and it's Thursday morning now. If it's just smut AOL, could someone forward me the stuff I'm missing? I haven't gotten anything since 3916. Thanks.
Alex
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:38:21 +0100 From: "CP Parnham" <C.P.Parnham-97@student.lboro.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in Sheffield, UK???? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980521153821.009166d0@student-mailin.lboro.ac.uk>
Hello everyone, remember me??? Not long to go before I really leave for the summer, and don't forget I'm unsubbed already so I can't see replies to this, but a friend of mine reckons DT are playing in Sheffield, England around June 20th, and I know they're at the Forum in London on the 22nd, but can anyone confirm the Sheffield date??? It's vitally important to me to know ASAP and I can't find anything on UACM or Rsabbs.com "official" site, so please PRIVATE e-mail only as I'm not on the 'Jam anymore but I desperately need to know!!! Thanks in advance, Chris Parnham IRC:Insania ICQ:5714076
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:44:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@umdnj.edu> To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: hello? Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.980521104339.1921B-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
*tap* *tap* *tap* Is this thing on? If it is, and I've been unsubscribed, someone please E-mail me.......
Thanks,
Al
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:19:20 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Phish Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980521111920.007ad960@pop3.afn.org>
>they were selling home made all natural brownies on the street. >Maybe cause half of them didn't have enough money for the cab ride >home ;-). The next morning, I went skee shooting with my Phish CDs.
Now you were being silly. Deciding you didn't like the band because of what some of their fans do. The music stays the same. I bet you think Zappa sucks because of all the stuff Zappa fans do. I bet you think The Helsinki Concert sucked because Frank named his kids Dweezil and Moon Unit.
I bet you think the polyrhythmic intro to It's Ice is lame ass shit because Phish concert people are a bunch of lame ass hippies.
I bet you think Metropolis Part I is boring because DT concert people are a bunch of idiot moshers and black t-shirt wearing heavy metal fans.
(personally, my Phish concert was cool because it was outside...which gives you some space...unlike tiny clubs... I was also able to see Living Colour, that's a metal concert, with no crushing or broken bones.)
"It's going to be either me or everyone else I kill, so pray for my quick suicide." - afn39111@afn.org This is who I am. -O- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111/
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 09:31:17 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Site of the week thingy Message-ID: <01BD84E3.4F81EF40@Troi.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Just wanted to remind you guys there's still some time left to help make UACM site of the week on the Dutch 'Webnieuws' site. Just go to their voting page directly with the following URL :
http://www.webnieuws.net/weeksite/nominaties.html
Then select 'Dream Theater' and press the button below... :-)
Oh yeah, thanks to the cool guys at AOL's Nightclub, UACM will have a transcript of their upcoming LTE chat. So if you're not with AOL at least you'll be able to read the Q & A's later on.
I've also added an option to send and receive digital greeting cards from UACM... Give it a try, it's fun. :)
End of shameless plug *********************
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:17:49 EDT From: Mellotonic <Mellotonic@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: HELP Message-ID: <6450ff02.356453af@aol.com>
HELP ME OF THE LIST
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 13:03:56 EDT From: Tone add9 <Toneadd9@aol.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: San Antonio/ Bluebonnet palace show Message-ID: <4911700c.35645e7d@aol.com>
anyone going to the SA show , please correspond w/ me to get together during or after the show. laters and indulge !!!!`
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Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:05:31 -0400 From: "J. Kerr" <digitalmusik@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FT: Mosaic from Prism Records Message-ID: <199805211802.OAA29665@shell.acmenet.net>
I would like to trade DT's Mosaic for any good Rush boot, preferably A Symptom of Life or Fear (both from Crystalline Records).
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