YTSEJAM Digest 3941
Today's Topics:
1) mailing list
by DrxYyz@aol.com
2) Re: mailing list
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
3) DT on MTV (Plan 1)
by MaxArbot@aol.com
4) Re: Damon darling
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
5) DT on MTV
by Calvin6S@aol.com
6) OOOOPPPS!!!
by Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
7) Re: ELP/DP
by "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org>
8) Re: Answers to everybody...
by Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@students.wisc.edu>
9) He...is...the...painkilllllller! (NDTC)
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
10) Whispers in a song?
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
11) Phil Hartman, Dead at 49 (NDTC)
by JE78674@ltu.edu
12) LTE online chat kicked ass!!!
by JKorby1973@aol.com
13) we CAN get DT on MTV!!!
by Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com>
14) Total Request
by "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com>
15) second L.A. show
by rjurado <rjurado@eiger.com.ph>
16) Re: Answers to everybody...
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3937
by Bunny1682@aol.com
18) Damnit, just one post on this thread :)
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
19) ANGRA Iron Maiden cover? Iron Maiden? LTE!
by The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se>
20) Re: shat shet shit shot shut
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
21) Re: setlists
by AL <al@isd.net>
22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 3940
by ujonegr@psf220.lexis-nexis.com (Greg Jones)
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 19:40:39 EDT
From: DrxYyz@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: mailing list
Message-ID: <97a7aafb.356df5f8@aol.com>
i would like to join the mailing list fan club
thanks
Gary
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:14:16 -0700
From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: mailing list
Message-ID: <356DFDD8.A91@pacbell.net>
DrxYyz@aol.com wrote:
>
> i would like to join the mailing list fan club
>
> thanks
> Gary
Greetings Gary!
" Through darkened passages of old crumbling stone walls covered in ivy
and moss, torch in hand as you make your way past the flickering shadows
that line the walls, to the bright light that beckons to thee from the
end of the passageway. As you step forward into the brightly lit hall
where others like thee are gathered, I bid thee welcome kind
stranger.....to
the Gallery of Shadows! Come join us in common ground of friendship
and
music."
I have subscribed you to the list. I look forward to seeing your posts.
The posting address is:
galleryofshadows@coollist.com
--Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:13:56 EDT From: MaxArbot@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on MTV (Plan 1) Message-ID: <9d99c2e2.356dfdc5@aol.com>
You know, he's right...sort of. They call it total request, but it's not really total request. What they do is they have a normal top ten and then they get people who have already requested these songs, and show that one the air. Kinda misleading...
However, DT does have a strong online following, and we all can contribute to getting them on MTV.
Here's the beginning's of the plan: 1. Someone find out what the email address is and post it here. 2. Someone (anyone) post that email address to the other mailing lists. 3. EVERYONE start emailing the hell out of MTV. Throw in some catchy phrases to get the email on the air (they always pick the cool sounding ones). 4. Continue to tell everyone you know to start requesting...and don't stop.
How's that for a plan?
[eriC] <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MaxArbot/index.html">THE DRE/\M THE/\TER</A>
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:16:25 -0700 From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Damon darling Message-ID: <356DFE59.49A6@pacbell.net>
Damon Fibraio wrote: > > Please. Do you think I am afraid of you people? You never dealt with the > likes of me before. i was being tame last night. > Damon,
PURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!! --
Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:26:53 EDT From: Calvin6S@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on MTV Message-ID: <747160b7.356e00cf@aol.com>
MTV has this program called TOTAL REQUEST
I agree - lets do it - pick the damn song, give me an email address and a time to request it and I am in. Now if they made a damn video to Sinatra's Under a Glass Moon- I bet that would fly on MTV. MTV loves novelties. And the old fart is dead - what timing.
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 17:44:57 -0700 From: Carol Dellinger <coldfire@pacbell.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: OOOOPPPS!!! Message-ID: <356E0509.2138@pacbell.net>
WEll dammit Month End Hell has gotten to me and I messed up! Sorry about that! Jesus SKadzy please forgive me!!!! --
Coldfire GalleryMistress@dreamt.org ICQ: 4656934 http://www.dreamt.org/coldfire The Official Shadow Gallery Mailing List galleryofshadows@coollist.com Gallery of Shadows http://www.dreamt.org/galleryofshadows/
"Fly where your dreams go...." - Crystalline Dream, Shadow Gallery
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:08:04 -0400 From: "earthblind, starbound" <afn39111@afn.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ELP/DP Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980528210804.007b4750@pop3.afn.org>
>Another thing I think all the setlist suggesters should consider: Don't >forget what the #1 complaint of no-DT fans is about the band - that they >"overplay" (you know, the old "it sounds like a bunch of guys showing off >how good they are").
Isn't that all ELP is? Keith Emerson is all about overplaying.
Personally, I think a well-placed cover might rule here. I'm thinking "21st Century Schizoid Man," with Greggy Lake doing a bit of guest vocal action.
I know DP is also on this tour, but I think DT, playing their own natural selves, are definitely in the ELP camp, and should work there.
"So you thought that your bolts and your locks would keep me out. You should have known better after all this time. You're going to pay in blood for all your vicious slander.... Let the blood flow." -- Fish -O- http://www.afn.org/~afn39111/
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 20:40:36 -0500 From: Joseph Bissonnette <jabisson@students.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Answers to everybody... Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980528204035.00778674@students.wisc.edu>
Nico spoke from on high: > >That's YOUR problem... i'm sure Matos is not thinking about you when he >sings... get away with YOUR problem, little without-neurons-man; this hurts >you???, oh, i'm so sorry :-) >
Oh shit. I'm sorry. I guess I shouldn't evaluate the music I listen to. After all he wasn't thinking about me when he sang it. I guess if he thinks it's good it must be. In the future I'll just try to find out what the singer was thinking about at the time, and decide if their singing is good based on that. How silly of me to think I could develop my own opinion.
Joe
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 21:41:26 -0400 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: He...is...the...painkilllllller! (NDTC) Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980529014126.0072c794@pop.pipeline.com>
el pendejo argentino escribio: >listen to PainKiller >ANGRA's version... jeje, what can you say NOW???????
I say that Andre Matos sounds idiotic and screetchy trying to sound like Rob Halford. I realize that is the point of the remake, but it still sounds laughable.
Don't get me wrong - I love Angra - but they should stick with their own style, and - shock of shocks - people should stop trying to build up their favorite bands by insinuating (or flat-out saying) that the musical tastes and opinions of others are wrong.
Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
Detroit Red Wings 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions First Round, vs. Phoenix Coyotes Detroit Wins 4-2 Second Round, vs. St. Louis Blues Detroit Wins 4-2 Third Round, vs. Dallas Stars Series Tied 1-1
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:24:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Whispers in a song? Message-ID: <19980528222402.23149.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com>
Ok, anyone know for sure what is being whispered 40 seconds into TOWHTSTS on WDADU?
There's lots of Brians and Ryans out there...It could be pretty freaky if you happen to catch the whisper late at night, in the dark, and the rain. Or maybe I'm just losing it...
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 22:07:54 -0400 (EDT) From: JE78674@ltu.edu To: YTSEJAM@ax.com Subject: Phil Hartman, Dead at 49 (NDTC) Message-ID: <01IXKZAZVVMQ8WXNY3@LTU.EDU>
A very sad day indeed as Phil Hartman is found murdered as what is an apparent murder/suicide.
This is a terrible loss and he will be missed.
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:20:59 EDT From: JKorby1973@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LTE online chat kicked ass!!! Message-ID: <684ec163.356e37ad@aol.com>
Very cool time chattin with the LTE guys. Mike and John answered a few of my questions. One of which was that I asked John what DiMarzios he uses in his 7-strings.....HE DIDN'T KNOW!!! Probably stock Universe pickups. Mike also answered my question about the last few lines at the end of PMU. He said they're from Shakespear's Hamlet. Someone also instant messaged me the exact words, which I THINK go like this..."oh that this too, too so that flesh will melt." I was in a hurry to get back to the chat, so I closed the IM screen before I could write down the words exactly. If I'm wrong, let me know. I've been wondering about that ending since 92! Until next time... Justin PS- R.I.P. Phil Hartman :-(
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Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:04:59 -0500 From: Alan Estrada <alan_estrada@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: we CAN get DT on MTV!!! Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19970528230459.007e8e90@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
At 11:39 AM 28/05/98 -0700, you wrote: > >HEY YTSEJAMMERS! > >MTV has this program called TOTAL REQUEST and they play videos that = >people request STRICTLY by E-mail. WE ALL KNOW that the DT has a VERY = >loyal and ONLINE fanbase. I don't know the full details on how e-mail = >address and when things get played, but we NEED to organize SOMETHING. = >It would be REALLY cool to end the stupid "replace Labrie" threads and = >start a NEW one with THIS topic. =20 >
I think latin MTV has the same thing and I think their address is los5@mtv.com or conexion@mtv.com Im not sure --- Alan Estrada Adler ICQ #9267174
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/2025 Shredder's Lair: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/7842/
Monterrey, Mexico NOTE MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: alan_estrada@bigfoot.com
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 00:26:30 -0400 From: "BassicRob" <bassicrob@geocities.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Total Request Message-ID: <01bd8ab9$f4885480$4a75cb98@default>
>From: Daus Studenberg <daus@ufl.edu> >HEY YTSEJAMMERS! > >MTV has this program called TOTAL REQUEST and they play videos that = >people request STRICTLY by E-mail. WE ALL KNOW that the DT has a VERY = >loyal and ONLINE fanbase. I don't know the full details on how e-mail = >address and when things get played, but we NEED to organize SOMETHING. = > >Here's the deal: We need to organize a day that we ALL send MULTIPLE = >E-mails to MTV's total request e-mail address. I was gonna mention this too but wanted to find out on the details first. I'm definately in this "MTV overthrow". Excellent idea!! Come on. What u waiting for! this is a great oppertunity to show what real music is all about.
-Rob, bassicrob@geocities.com Visit my webpage for my latest NIN Desktop Theme, bass solo mp3's, and other useless info. http:\\www.geocities.com\SunsetStrip\Mezzanine\1566
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:55:51 +0800 From: rjurado <rjurado@eiger.com.ph> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: second L.A. show Message-ID: <356E3FD6.F8033C8E@globalcafe.com.ph>
I don't know if I missed it, but, can anyone who was there post a setlist. I couldn't make the Monday show. I'd really like to (or maybe not) know what I missed. I heard "Scarred" during the Sunday soundcheck. I'll be kind of pissed if I hear that they played it Mon. and not Sun.
-Rob
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 01:38:40 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Answers to everybody... Message-ID: <000601bd8acc$6b8239e0$7cc95bd1@emc.caribe.net>
> sings... get away with YOUR problem, little without-neurons-man; this hurts
hahaha, this is the coolest insult i've ever seen. Now go away or i shall taunt you a second time-a. :) Moo.
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:07:38 EDT From: Bunny1682@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3937 Message-ID: <a0c77b05.356e50ab@aol.com>
It really isn't a big deal, but the Megadeth song quoted at the end actually goes like: "Kill many, and your a conqueror" instead of "hero." Not trying to make mountains out of molehills, just thought I'd let you know.
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Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:18:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Damnit, just one post on this thread :) Message-ID: <199805290618.AA00111@crl.crl.com>
I swore I wouldn't add to the REplacement Vocalist thread, but I will. One name comes to mind besides the others mentioned: Michael Tangerman, from Superior. He has excellent power and range.
As for Andre Matos, I only have Angra's HOLY LAND (so far), but I have to agree with Ken Golden's review (from Laser's Edge).... Matos ascends well into the stratosphere but never quite to the point of annoyance.
-- Sometimes a view from sinless eyes / Centers our perspective Paul W. Cashman And pacifies our cries / Sometimes the anguish we survive vanyel@crl.com And the mysteries we nurture / Are the fabrics of our lives ICQ# 4151223 "Lines in the Sand," Dream Theater - FALLING INTO INFINITY www.crl.com/~vanyel
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:28:58 +0100 From: The Working Man <nv99701@egymn.tranemo.se> To: "'Multiple recipients of list'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: ANGRA Iron Maiden cover? Iron Maiden? LTE! Message-ID: <98May29.083355gmt+0100.31364@gate.tranemo.se>
Nico Rincon wrote: > have you heard the Wasted Time ANGRA's version??? Iron Maiden must > be proud of that!!!!!
Wasted what? I suppose you mean "Wasted Years" ("Somewhere in Time", = 1986), if not, you're bullshitting.
Being proud of another band playing one's songs is a virtual = impossibility. If I would have been Neil Peart (or Geddy Lee or Al = Lifeson) and someone had done "better" (at least newer) versions of my = songs, I would have gone nuts - my ego IS that big! What is ANGRA, anyway? (OK, I'm sorry... but at least I've got LTE!!! :) = Being an old Maiden fan, I would love to hear an eventual cover of any = of their songs (I play some in my band but we suck (thanks to the = drummer >8-( )). If it now is "Wasted Years" they've covered, I doubt = it's better than the original version, 'cuz that's a goddamn = masterpiece!!!
Could someone give me a URL or something about ANGRA?
WTF is Iron Maiden up to, anyway? What the hell are they doing? I = listened to "Virtual XI" a couple of days ago and was I disappointed! = The first track "Futureal" is OK, very Maiden-esque with a catchy (but = standard) riff. And the best part... it's not too long - like every = other song on the album! "The Angel and the Gambler", a song that gets = boring as hell after 2,5 minutes is... yeah, almost 10 minutes long! The rest is also crap - I guess Blaze Bayley's lousy 'singing' does most = of the trick. A gang of egoistic, dull, uninspired and greedy (the = middle of the CD booklet is an advertisement for IM-merchandise!) old = musicians have put together something I never would pollute my CD = collection with, not even if it was $0.98! I miss my heroes... Bruce! = Ade! Where are you?!
I got LTE yesterday... it's fucking fabulous! THEY are fabulous! Hell, I = can't improvise myself for five minutes... they are four, and jam = together for 28 minutes! I do want a sequel! I wanna be like them someday...!
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//tHe WoRkInG mAn aka Per Pettersson aka the new Tony Levin
Favourite song: "Paradigm Shift" - Liquid Tension Experiment Favourite album: "Liquid Tension Experiment" - = Levin/Petrucci/Portnoy/Rudess
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | It seems to me | | I could live my life | | A lot better than I think I am. | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 18:15:27 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: shat shet shit shot shut Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980529181527.0071e178@powerup.com.au>
>>Brilliant album, btw. Worth it for 'Warriors of Genghis Khan' and their >>perfect cover of 'Bohemian Rhapsody'. > >"Perfect" cover?! Perfectly hilarious! I'm surprised to hear Bad News >mentioned anywhere, much less on the 'Jam! Of course, it would come >from somebody outside of the US - since we here in the States generally >don't have the highly developed sense of humor to appreciate these >things.
I love their version of 'Bohemian Rhapsody' - it was the first time I had actually heard the song (I was about 10 when the Bad News version was released). Whenever I sing the song to myself, I still sing along to that version - especially the 'no no no no absolutely not!' part... pure brilliance, even if it isn't technically as good as the original.
Pity, because I haven't heard the album in many years - I think it was in my brother's car when it got stolen. Or a friend of his borrowed it and never returned it. No copy, anyway, and I can't find it on CD anywhere.
Currently listening to Fates Warning's "Inside Out" - I think I'm starting to be a teensy bit converted... never really cared for any of their stuff, outside of APSOG.
Nigel The next Vim Fuego
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 03:25:28 -0500 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: YTSELAND <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: setlists Message-ID: <356E70F8.DC3A4BE2@isd.net>
Damon Fibraio wrote: >enjoy the heavy side of DT. This may work out great. I think DT should >just play acos and metropolis and then leave the stage with everybody >wondering what the fuck just hit them. :) YES! ACOS in it's entirety, followed by Metropolis & Scarred. Show no mercy... Imagine this: DT rocks so loud that one of Derek's lava lamps crashes down on one of the Korgs setting it on fire, Then John Myung beats the flames out with the Chapman Stick while Mike impales Derek with a drum stick because.... Well, just because. All this while JP & KJLB play patty cake with Ian Gillian. We can dream, right? -- See ya, AL... The YTSE Progtologist And NO, I did not misspell that!
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems http://www.isd.net/astrosch/index.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Never raise your hands to your kids. It leaves your groin unprotected. - Red Buttons
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 06:55:05 -0400 From: ujonegr@psf220.lexis-nexis.com (Greg Jones) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 3940 Message-ID: <199805291055.GAA09639@psf220.pclprod.meaddata.com>
I think you'll get more participation if you include MTV's e-mail address in your plead.
Also, we need to agree on which song to request. I'm not even sure which songs DT has videos for. Burning My Soul?
HEY YTSEJAMMERS!
MTV has this program called TOTAL REQUEST and they play videos that = people request STRICTLY by E-mail. WE ALL KNOW that the DT has a VERY = loyal and ONLINE fanbase. I don't know the full details on how e-mail = address and when things get played, but we NEED to organize SOMETHING. = It would be REALLY cool to end the stupid "replace Labrie" threads and = start a NEW one with THIS topic. =20
Here's the deal: We need to organize a day that we ALL send MULTIPLE = E-mails to MTV's total request e-mail address. We also need to pick a = CURRENT video that DT has made for FII. From what I have gathered, it = takes about ONLY 9000 e-mails to even GET on the countdown! That means = it only takes 900 people to send TEN e-mails in one day...and THAT'S = effortless! If we gather all of our e-mail buddies and friends into = this, I think we can do it! I say we get this planned for a week from = now. =20
Let's start this thread and see if we ytsejammers can ACTUALLY get DT on = MTV!!
d a u s s t u d e n b e r g=20
"few will try, most will quit" - Tom Ryan
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