YTSEJAM Digest 3944
Today's Topics:
1) Voices
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
2) catching up on threads
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
3) MTv/Cur(v)e/ect
by Mad dog <jhaveman@u.arizona.edu>
4) Dynamo Festival
by q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
5) Japanese Hollow Years single
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l?= Birger Solhaug <paalbs@online.no>
6) Re: Rumors and consequences...
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
7) Need help with RA or MP3 format..? (NDTC)
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
8) DT on MTV
by Ivan Carvajal <usnavi@rocketmail.com>
9) Setlists, Derek on Jordan, Voices
by Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
10) Re: Selling Out
by Roger Kowalski <roger@rdz.stjohns.edu>
11) Re: Rumors and consequences...
by Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
12) ha ha ha
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
13) FS/T: "Awake" TAB book
by Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
14) Mike Bahr, King of the Wild Front Tier
by "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com>
15) Gardian Knot.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 01:53:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Voices
Message-ID: <199805300653.BAA07475@enteract.com>
IMO, the guitar solo and vocals to Voices are the most expressive
on Awake. Great Wah use, great JLB wailing. Cool lyrics. Probably my
fav on Awake. I know someone's gonna say "But SDV is the most emotional
tune on the disc!" to which I will cough up yogurt. SDV is a nice little
tune, but is really flat, IMO. Flat as in boring. Flat as in pancake,
boyeeee!
I missed the damn LTE chat. Foobar. Incidentally, Scott Hansen (e, or
o?) took some fucking incredible shots at the Chicago and Madison (and
Milwaukee?) shows. We're gonna scan some of the real knock-outs and put
em on Prognosis (probably on UACM, unless Itchy objects). Kudos, Scott.
Really, truly, awesome. Though I didn't see a picture of Hugo. :)
- Chris
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 00:50:53 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: catching up on threads
Message-ID: <199805300752.AAA25266@cats.ucsc.edu>
Sorry, been busy with the last stages of having my play produced. It
opened Thursday, and turned out p[retty cool (if you ask the author's
opinion . ;) so, here's my taker on the recent threads.
Singers other than LaBrie. I don't think he'd be a good singer, but can't
you all see Axl Rose crooning OFB's songs? I mentioned this a few weeks
ago, but got no response. Probably from the shock. :) I think it'd be a
hoot.
Setlists: Yeah, a representative setlist would be best. Her's my thoughts:
BMS and PMU. Gotta do the radio singles, for exposure.
Met or LtL -- one of the I&W era masterpieces -- maybe the medley version,
but I don't think that would be as effective for a "new" audience.
Prolly TTT -- don't they do this at every show?
Scarred or Voices -- one of the Awake big songs
LitS or ToT -- you got it, one of the fii long songs
Then, throw in one or two shorter rockers, like JLMB or Mirror/Lie.
I think they've got enough stuff to almost improvise the whole show. :)
Voices: I'm not blown away by it either, but I blame Kevin. :) There's
just NO interesting keyboard work in the entire song. Hell, _I_ could play
it. There's _2_ guitar solos, and not one keyboard lead. :P I mean, it's
a good song, but I do lose a bit of interest about the time of the 2nd
guitar solo.
Hm. noodles. I see noodles.
~Chris
__../\..__ Chris Oates: aspect@cats.ucsc.edu
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 01:11:27 -0700 (MST)
From: Mad dog <jhaveman@u.arizona.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: MTv/Cur(v)e/ect
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.980530002316.35106A-100000@f1n7.u.arizona.edu>
I looked on the MTv online site, and found no info on Total Request. This
seems bizzare to me, but I wandered around quite a bit and still got the
big zero. No address or nothing.
I have caught the show once or twice, and yes, they said something about
the songs played beings the ones recieved the most votes within the past
two hours or something. You can vote by phone, email, or by being where
their on-the-street video camera is.
And most importantly, my guess is that they don't allow more than one vote
per email address. Which means I could only send in four (don't you just
love free university accounts?).
There's nothing wrong with liking the Cure. And on an unrelated note, The
Curve and the Dandy Warhols will be in Phoenix on either July 7th or 27th,
depending on who you believe, the bands or the venues.
To get this back on track, Fatez' APSoG is currently playing for the
second straight time. I haven't heard this album since the show and it
still rules. And more prog-related content, I had a friend play the
"Natural Science" on the Working Man tribute to hear how Devin does there.
I wasn't terribly impressed. But on _Sex and Religion_ he is just
amazing. I can't get enough of "Here and Now" through the title track.
A note on the 'word' "prog" - I had a friend (big Rush and Floyd fan at
that) who always thought that I was trying to say "Prague" which didn't
make any sense to him.
A "Mad dog shaven head bottle boy Freak" aka John Haveman
jhaveman@u.arizona.edu ---- http://www.u.arizona.edu/~jhaveman
"Tomorrow must be more... drink more dreams more bed more drugs more
lust more lies more head more love more fear more fun more pain more
flesh more stars more smiles more fame more sex" - robert smith
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 21:19:48 -0700
From: q9720680@mail.connect.usq.edu.au (Paul Dyer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dynamo Festival
Message-ID: <3570DA64.2CB8@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>
I just got around to looking at the Dynamo page...all I can say is that
I wanna be there!!!!
Off the top of my head there is 25 bands I would love to see!!! I think
that it is time to start saving for a trip to Europe say....around
Dynamo next year!!
I wanna see Blind Guardian!!!!! BTW....maybe if I go to Europe i'll
catch DT also....I mean they haven't been to Australia yet!! :)
Cheers
Paul D.
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:01:43 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l?= Birger Solhaug <paalbs@online.no>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Japanese Hollow Years single
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980530140143.007baa10@online.no>
I was wondering;
Are there any differences between the European and the Japanese version
of the Hollow Years single, any extra tracks, anything?
I spotted it in a catalogue, but the price was rather high so I
won't bother getting it if it's the same as the European version, which
I already own.
<center>+---------------------------------------+
| Find all you need in your mind if you |
| Take The Time |
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| Paal Birger Solhaug |
| paalbs@online.no |
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 13:15:05 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Rumors and consequences...
Message-ID: <01BD8BD3.E57EE1A0@82.rotterdam1.gironet.nl>
Steve Godbout wrote :
> Two days ago, I was in a local record store and talking prog with
> the resident proghead salesman. He told me that within a month,
> he would have in store some kind of "LTE part 2".
>
> A totally new album with the four original members of LTE plus one new,
> unknown to me, member. Now, I admit that I am about 10 days late on my
> jam reading but I am almost certain I would have read about it either
> here on UACM so I guess this might almost certainly untrue.
If it were true, I'm sure we'd have heard about it from Mike P
by now. :-) Anyway, here is a list of all the upcoming Dream
Theater related projects I'm aware of. More information (track
listings, line ups, biography, artwork) can be found on "Under
A Cyber Moon" at http://www.prognosis.com/dream/ :
Rocket From The Crypt - "RFTC"
This one will be released on Interscope Records on June 2nd,
and has Derek Sherinian playing organ on one track and piano
on another.
Alice Cooper Tribute - "Humanary Stew"
Yet another album with a contribution from Derek, along with
a crapload of other musicians. It is supposed to be released
late this summer, on Triage Records. Derek was also hired by
Alice to arrange and orchestrate a 10 minute medley from the
"Welcome To My Nightmare" album for his current tour.
Explorers Club - "Age Of Impact"
Conceived by Trent and Wayne Gardner from Magellan featuring
an amazing lineup which includes LaBrie, Sherinian, Petrucci
and a long list of other musicians. 53:29 minutes of intense
prog, divided over 5 tracks, that will "rock your nadz". :-)
It'll be out on Magna Carta on June 23rd (as far as I know).
Platypus - "When Pus Comes To Shove"
I am real anxious to get this one, after having heard "Willy
Brown"... For those who don't know yet, Platypus consists of
Derek Sherinian, John Myung, Rod Morgenstein and Ty Tabor...
It's supposed to be released on Inside Out records in Europe
this August (no date known yet) with a US release around the
same time.
ChromaKey - "Dead Air For Radios"
Kevin Moore's long awaited project, scheduled to be released
on Massacre Records, June 22nd (unless they postpone it once
again)... According to Massacre "Dead Air For Radios" sounds
like a mixture between Talk Talk, David Bowie and Rush.
Gordian Knot
This (instrumental) album is supposed to be the follow-up to
Sean Malone's Cortlandt project with John Myung as a special
guest on Stick... recording was scheduled to begin in April,
with a release in the Summer. I have no idea if this project
is still happening because I haven't heard anything about it
in months. Any info about this project would be appreciated.
Time to get that 2nd job. ;-)
Does anyone have Mike Backoff's current email address for me ?
I need to contact him about the DT discography I have on UACM.
Mark Bredius
____________________________________________________________
Dream Theater - Under A Cyber Moon E-mail: itchy@dreamt.org
* http://www.prognosis.com/dream * Last updated: 05-30-1998
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:12:00 -0400
From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Need help with RA or MP3 format..? (NDTC)
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980529231200.007947b0@mail.erinet.com>
To whomever,
I need help finding a good utility to record from CD into RealAudio or MP-3
format. I am trying to put some newer (better quality) sounds up on my
Galactic Cowboys site (reopening on June 1st), but for CD-quality WAV files
it's around 6M just for a damn 45 second snippet.
Any info on putting sounds from CD to a soundfile with a more efficient
utility, please email me.
Dan
+--- ---+
Dan Temmesfeld Galactic Cowboys on the Web
dantemm@erinet.com http://www.dlm.net/gc/
+--- ---+
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 07:30:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ivan Carvajal <usnavi@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT on MTV
Message-ID: <19980530143021.8286.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com>
Well, I agree with the idea of the e-mails.. I'm on.
I think that any of the Awake videos, such as Lie,
would be a fair and excellent request.
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:06:38 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jon@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
To: "Harm's Way" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Setlists, Derek on Jordan, Voices
Message-ID: <3570207E.718F@parmetpc.volpe.dot.gov>
Alex wrote:
> How about having the fans write the setlists for this tour?
Great idea, Alex!
Here's my list: oh wait, no lists allowed, nevermind...
Open with something to get the fans moving, like JLMB, BMS, (or if it's
not a requirement to open with something off FII) 6AM, Lie, UAGM, or
dare I say RTK! There's gonna be people there that have never seen DT
before and could get impatient real fast. Those first few songs are
gonna make it or break it for them. Gotta rip their heads off before you
blow their minds. Oh hell, screw the new fans! Just play Metro 2 and
follow up with Three Minute Warning.
Ian wrote:
> Derek said that if he and Jordan Rudess were to do a keyboard
> competition, Jordan should be penalized by 3 fingers (I would
> have to agree. Rudess is a maniac).
For all the slagging Jordan's been getting about supposedly holding back
on LTE, he's nothing short of a master on the instrument, IMO.
You know, I got just a great overall vibe coming from Derek when I first
met him after a show. He is humble and I think he is getting better and
better at fusing into the DT sound. At each show I've seen him perform,
he is more and more fluid.....
Metro 2, Metro 2, Metro 2....... :)
eriC wrote:
> "Voices" is Mike Portnoy's favorite Dream Theater song. This I know
> for a fact.
James' voice on that song covers such a wide range of emotion. That part
where his voice gets really soft ("I'm kneeling on the floor") is on of
my favorite parts of the song as well as that part during
'nightmaaaaaaaare' before 'voices....'
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 11:09:10 -0400
From: Roger Kowalski <roger@rdz.stjohns.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Selling Out
Message-ID: <35702116.88D2A14B@rdz.stjohns.edu>
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Well, Me of all people whould know what selling out means. Let me start simple:
Selling out = Changing the band's musical style/genre in order to make more money.
Many bands have been accused of this. Metallica has been accused of this more times than I can
count.
I've also heard DT Be accused of this. "They're not prog enough!" I was like... #*&@(*&#*
WHAT??
Petrucci was asked to comment on this, and he said "haha. yeah" "We've written Metropolis 2
already and I can tell you
now that it's the most prog song ever made" Band write music because they like to write it.
Period. If a band changes "style,"
It's because they're tired of writing what they used to. It's fucking boring. SO they
experiment with new sounds. It's simple but not easily understood. SOme people are just
ignorant and won't understand it.
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<P> Well, Me of all people whould know what selling out means.
Let me start simple:
<BR> Selling out = Changing the band's musical style/genre
in order to make more money.
<BR> Many bands have been accused of this. Metallica
has been accused of this more times than I can count.
<BR> I've also heard DT Be accused of this. "They're
not prog enough!" I was like...<B> #*&@(*&#* WHAT??</B>
<BR><B> </B>Petrucci was asked to comment on this, and he said
"haha. yeah" "We've written Metropolis 2 already and I can
tell you
<BR> now that it's the most prog song ever made" Band
write music because they like to write it. Period. If a band
changes "style,"
<BR> It's because they're tired of writing what they used to.
It's fucking boring. SO they experiment with new sounds. It's
simple but not easily understood. SOme people
are just ignorant and won't understand it.</HTML>
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 11:19:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rumors and consequences...
Message-ID: <199805301519.LAA19122@node7.unix.Virginia.EDU>
According to Mark Bredius:
>
> Gordian Knot
>
> This (instrumental) album is supposed to be the follow-up to
> Sean Malone's Cortlandt project with John Myung as a special
> guest on Stick... recording was scheduled to begin in April,
> with a release in the Summer. I have no idea if this project
> is still happening because I haven't heard anything about it
> in months. Any info about this project would be appreciated.
i think Malone and his cast of guest musicians, including Ron
Jarzombek from WatchTower and Spastic Ink on gutiar, are in the
studio now recording various parts for this. the latest update
on Ron's page at www.spasticink.com says something about him
recording soon, and Sean's page has updates on the whole
project at http://home1.gte.net/fugue/home/index.htm .
the official Cynic page at
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~veilmaya/cynic/ says that this
record should have a couple songs that were originally written
for the second Cynic album.
-- scott andrews biophysics research sha3u@virginia.edu chemistry department ****************************************************************** --- http://www.people.virginia.edu/~sha3u --- info & CD reviews | Ibanez | soundclips of of major & underground | 7 string | my prog-thrash progressive/thrash metal | guitar info | metal band ATAXIA ****************************************************************** "metal isn't dead, it just smells funny." -Zappa paraphrase------------------------------
Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 11:27:14 -0400 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: <tabo-sabalero@usa.net> Cc: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ha ha ha Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980530152714.0072f8ec@pop.pipeline.com>
"El" jammer Argentino dijo: >lamento tu >falta de conocimiento sobre musica, es patetico.
Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con la opinion tuya. 1000+ cds que tengo no significa nada. Lo siento mucho, majestad.
Remito a tu alta consideracion el dedo del Sr. Hartman:
/ \ |\_/| |---| | | | | _ |=-=| _ _ / \| |/ \ / \| | | ||\ | | | | | \> | | | | | \ | - - - - |) ) | / \ / \ / \ / \ / | | | | | | | |
Anyway, I suppose that's enough of this nonsense.
CD of the Day: Divine Regale - Ocean Mind
Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
Detroit Red Wings 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions First Round, vs. Phoenix Coyotes Detroit Wins 4-2 Second Round, vs. St. Louis Blues Detroit Wins 4-2 Third Round, vs. Dallas Stars Detroit Leads 2-1
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 11:35:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Andrews <sha3u@unix.mail.virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FS/T: "Awake" TAB book Message-ID: <199805301535.LAA32816@node7.unix.Virginia.EDU>
FS/T: Dream Theater "Awake" TAB book, edited by John Petrucci himself. TAB for all the songs from the album "Awake," including all solos, lots of keyboard parts arranged for guitar, and 7 string TAB for the three 7 string guitar tunes.
this book new sells for $25. mine is in very good condition and i'll sell it for $15 + shipping, or trade for another TAB book, or a couple normal CDs, or a cool DT CD boot. what i'd really like is to trade for the Images and Words TAB book. if anyone is interested, let em know what you've got. thanks.
scott andrews biophysics research sha3u@virginia.edu chemistry department ****************************************************************** --- http://www.people.virginia.edu/~sha3u --- info & CD reviews | Ibanez | soundclips of of major & underground | 7 string | my prog-thrash progressive/thrash metal | guitar info | metal band ATAXIA ****************************************************************** "metal isn't dead, it just smells funny." -Zappa paraphrase
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:22:56 -0400 From: "Syrinx" <syrinx@mindspring.com> To: "A Ytse Besides Itself" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mike Bahr, King of the Wild Front Tier Message-ID: <009401bd8be7$354284e0$0ccbcdcf@syrinx>
I saw this on alt.music.rush, and i'm sure anyone on the ytsejam would find this as amusing as I have. :)
>Something about Mike? I like Mike. Anyway, he wasn't always called Mike >"Bahr". It used to be Mike Woodchester. You see, in Canada, where he >(Mike Bahr) used to live, there are plenty of dangerous wild animals, like >Grizzly near his homestead (a quaint log cabin). One day, the three year >old Mike went outside to go ice fishing, as many young, foolish Canadian >kids often do. While he was traversing through the wooded land, he >encountered a big brown grizzly bear. Using his trusty fishing rod, he >ripped that bear a new asshole. So, instead of bringing home some small >trout, he dragged a grizzly across 5,000 miles of freezing Canadian winds >and ice, to his freezing house, with no running water, to show his mom and >dad. And thus, at every family reunion, they tell everyone, "He killed him >a Bahr (bear), when he was only three. Hence, his new last name. Saw that >one coming from a mile away, didn't you?
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Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:31:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org> To: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> Subject: Gardian Knot. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980530123017.29011A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> Gordian Knot > > This (instrumental) album is supposed to be the follow-up to > Sean Malone's Cortlandt project with John Myung as a special > guest on Stick... recording was scheduled to begin in April, > with a release in the Summer. I have no idea if this project > is still happening because I haven't heard anything about it > in months. Any info about this project would be appreciated.
This project is indeed still happening. in fact, OFB's John Myung is doing his stick parts for the album as I type this.
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