YTSEJAM Digest 4398
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4391
by Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
2) Erotomania live
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
3) Symphony X and Michael Romeo
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
4) Re: Tower, LaBrie, SG and other flames
by Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
5) RE: SG - Tyranny
by "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
6) Run for your lives! The MOL is here!
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
7) Sorry guys
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
8) re: Hammer of the Gods
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
9) Re: Ytseband..
by "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl>
10) Symphony X
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
11) Re: 5YiaL, OiaL
by MentolPyro@aol.com
12) Re: Tower, LaBrie, SG and other flames
by <dthomas@best.com>
13) The Progmetal girlfriend
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
14) Ytsejam Survey - Full Results
by ytse jam <ytse_classics@yahoo.com>
15) Re: 5YiaL, OiaL
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
16) Revenue Canada KISS MY ASS!
by Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
17) Hear in the Now Frontier
by David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
18) astrophysics
by "James C. Shields" <jimshields@bigplanet.com>
19) What's up with Dream Theater?
by Philip Griffiths <griffith@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
20) D.C COOPER & ANRE ANDERSEN CLINC
by "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
21) Re: KISS (NDTC)
by Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
22) i must be weird, then
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:53:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Mike Pontrelli <ponte@essc.psu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4391
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.981104165330.25278D-100000@espy>
anyone recording the world premier of Different Stages tonight?
They are interviewing Geddy!
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:53:36 -0500
From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Erotomania live
Message-ID: <003801be083d$92e71e80$3a1110ac@demccor.clemson.edu>
hey there, i'm looking for a live performance of erotomania, it'd be cool if
it was all of AMBI but erotomania alone will do... anyone have a show with
it on tape or cd? wanna trade? i don't have all that much in the way of
boots, mostly bahr cds, but i have a cd-r so you could get a cd copy of that
:) yeah. obviously, reply privately, dmc@dreamt.org. Thanks. moo.
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:02:03 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Symphony X and Michael Romeo
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C960564980906F@messaging>
OK, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, I finally found who Michael Romeo "belongs" to. I
heard his solo on the "Working Man" tribute album (the song "Analog Kid",
track 3) and loved it (way better than Lifeson's :) ). I haven't heard any
SX yet, but will shortly, I'm sure (give me a day to get it FedEx'ed from
CDNow). I've been searching for "The Dark Chapter" for months, figuring he
was just a fucking solo artist. God, I'm a moron. :)
David Dixon
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:05:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <Ytse@concentric.net>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Tower, LaBrie, SG and other flames
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.4.01.9811041702480.15824-100000@galileo.cris.com>
Amanda Rosenblum wrote:
> and to Joe, if you think its hard to find a progmetal girlfriend, try
> finding a guy like that that also likes goth industrial and synth pop,
> and who can keep up with the mind of an astrophysics major!
I think there's someone like that on this list, but rumor has it that he's
taken. ;)
Rick Audet
San Francisco
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:12:36 -0800
From: "Mark Philpot" <griphiam@ccnet.com>
To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: RE: SG - Tyranny
Message-ID: <000201be0840$3ab62fa0$a265f7cc@markphil>
Taur wrote:
Shadow Gallery - Tyranny
Ok, so I've heard some people glorifying this album. I had "Carved in
Stone", and it blew. Any reason why this one is any different?
And my responce:
HELL YES!!! Tyranny is MUCH better (though I actually liked CiS, I like
Tyranny much more). Tyranny is simply an incrediblly well done album! The
concept is new and performs really well. The sound is unique (though there
are reminants of CiS)... I honestly think this is one of the best albums
of this year. Do get it... you won't regret it.
Mark Philpot
Music Creations
http://www.ccnet.com/~griphiam/musiccreations.htm
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:13:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Run for your lives! The MOL is here!
Message-ID: <19981104221338.14454.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>
Amanda wrote to Joe:
> and to Joe, if you think its hard to find a progmetal girlfriend,
> try finding a guy like that that also likes goth industrial and synth
> pop, and who can keep up with the mind of an astrophysics major!
> Cheers,
> Amanda, dormbound at UCLA with a roommate that likes to listen to
> Christian inspirational music.
OK, here we go again. Ytsejammers may remember my "Month o' Love"
theory? Well, it's that time again! Somewhere around the time between
Halloween and Thanksgiving, human hormones will go wild. It's the
human mating season.
Have any of you felt funny lately? Don't worry, be happy! It's just
your genetic imperative to reproduce. Watch for signs, you'll be
seeing them soon...(Other than Amanda and Joe here.)
my $.50, BH
P.S. Amanda, you realize that Joe is enraptured with your mind, but
the body of Pamela Anderson Lee is more important to him right now. ;o)
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:13:54 -0800
From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Sorry guys
Message-ID: <3640D1A2.E46499F@ucla.edu>
So sorry about the last message.
My mail program tweeked and forgot the meaning of "word wrap at 72
characters"
~Amanda
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:23:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: re: Hammer of the Gods
Message-ID: <19981104222310.24180.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>
Matt Smith <ktulu@arches.uga.edu> uses as his sig:
> "Symphony X is the musical equivalent of the Hammer of God." -Joe
DeAngelo
Well, I don't know where Joe came up with this quote, but I thought
I'd point out that "Hammer of the Gods" was a term used in relation to
Led Zeppelin for years. There's also a book by that name about Led
Zeppelin.
my $.02, BH
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:37:31 +0100
From: "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl>
To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Ytseband..
Message-ID: <008d01be0843$b6fcbb80$0a876dc2@dl.xs4all.nl>
<That's been discussed several times - a Ytsejam DT Tribute where we all
record our tracks at home and send em somewhere. It never got anywhere. I
was gonna do guitar for Ytsejam, and my friend Mario (he of the former
handle RipZero, whom i doth believe is off the list now) was gonna do guitar
for UAGM. Sigh, if only :) Moral of the story: in the real world it's
possible, but we're not part of the real world. This is not reality. But
then, don't you know that reality is immaterial? Moo.
>
Too bad...
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:37:02 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Symphony X
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809070@messaging>
Where should I start w/ Symphony X (e-mail privately, please, so as not to
clutter the jam with EVEN MORE NDTC shit than there is already, although I
must admit the Voodoo Penis joke was HILARIOUS)? Damn, them CD's are
expensive (import from CDNow)!
David Dixon
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:38:38 EST
From: MentolPyro@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: 5YiaL, OiaL
Message-ID: <aa0ec2da.3640d76e@aol.com>
Well, Al, my brief little mini retort here:
<< The one thing that has
constantly bothered me with him is his lack of enunciation on
the higher notes. Just totally ruins the songs, especially
Anna Lee's bridge section......ugh..... >>
trust me, anunciating high notes (and especially such extremely high notes) is
hard.
when one goes so high a lot of things change and become harder
personally, i LOVED the fact that James sang that part flawlessly, VERY
impressive
and to the person who said James range is decreasing, to that i say he's
simply not killing himself every concert, remember, his voice got better again
after going to a specialist to help PRESERVE his voice, and singing so high
and painfully in concert was what was degrading it in the first place
=)
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:41:51 -0800 (PST)
From: <dthomas@best.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Tower, LaBrie, SG and other flames
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811041440280.26905-100000@fpage2.ba.best.com>
On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Rick Audet wrote:
>
>
> Amanda Rosenblum wrote:
>
> > and to Joe, if you think its hard to find a progmetal girlfriend, try
> > finding a guy like that that also likes goth industrial and synth pop,
> > and who can keep up with the mind of an astrophysics major!
>
> I think there's someone like that on this list, but rumor has it that he's
> taken. ;)
>
>
> Rick Audet
> San Francisco
Yeah, I've been married for almost 13 years now...
;)
Dave Thomas
www.pixelplanet.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:49:26 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: The Progmetal girlfriend
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809071@messaging>
Well, not to brag or incite a riot, but my girlfriend's faves are (in no
particular order):
Tori Amos
Dream Theater
Type O Negative (we partially blame them for bringing us together)
Pink Floyd
Metallica
Megadeth (minus Dave's vox, which she hates, but I love.. **FRICTION
POINT**)
Tool
Rush (minus Geddy's vox, which she hates, but I love.. **MORE FRICTION**)
Nine Inch Nails
Joe Satriani
Kenny Wayne Shepherd
Rachmaninoff and Chopin
Works for me (we may have to pull some teeth over the vocals issue, but
we'll eventually get over it!!
David Dixon
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:56:32 -0800 (PST)
From: ytse jam <ytse_classics@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Ytsejam Survey - Full Results
Message-ID: <19981104225632.438.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>
Hey Jammers!
The full results of the recent Top 20 survey are now up on the web.
Check out the Top 40 or the full list on "Under a Cyber Moon" at:
http://www.dreamtheater.net/
(We had convenient breaks at 20 and 40, so we listed the Top 40
instead of just 20.)
Thanks to Mark Bredius for his rapid web-work!
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:57:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: 5YiaL, OiaL
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.981104175203.3561B-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 MentolPyro@aol.com wrote:
> trust me, anunciating high notes (and especially such extremely high notes) is
> hard.
> when one goes so high a lot of things change and become harder
I totally understand that fact. That's why I think it shouldn't
have been in that higher register when he sang it, since you can't
understand what the hell he's singing about. You can rewrite what
notes will be sung, or maybe even rewrite words so that certain
words that are difficult to enunciate aren't used.
> personally, i LOVED the fact that James sang that part flawlessly, VERY
> impressive
He may have sung it flawlessly compared to the album version, but
since the album version has the same enunciation problem, then
what's the point.
Now, mind you, this isn't a flame, but more of a pet peeve of
mine. I love his voice, and I think he does an excellent job
most of the time. The "Caught in the Web" studio thing - his
voice kicks my ass when I hear that - is an example. But when
you are going to sing words, sing "words". Otherwise, you might
as well make the words into "whoa-oaaaa-oaaaa" or something
similar.......
-Al
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:59:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Lars Hellsten <lhellste@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Revenue Canada KISS MY ASS!
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95q.981104174819.9837A-100000@descartes.uwaterloo.ca>
Well, *finally* got my OIAL in the mail today (I ordered from CDNOW about a
week before it came out). Listening to it right now, and what can I say?
It rocks, just like everyone has been saying. I'm glad someone finally got
the right idea and turned up the keyboards in the mix.
Two problems. First, I too got a promo copy. WTF is up with that? And
secondly, I got this nice big fucking Revenue Canada customs import form
stuck on the package. So I get charged GST and a $5 handling fee on it.
WTF is that? I've ordered stuff (including larger orders) from CDNOW
before and NEVER had this happen before. Do any other Canadians here know
how this stuff works?
So... Revenue Canada: fuck you, greedy bastards! The joke's on you. Let's
see you try and steal 7 bucks from me 5 years from now when I'm living in
the US! Ha!
Holy fuck, Voices just started... I'm outta here.
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:03:32 -0700
From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Hear in the Now Frontier
Message-ID: <3093FD59DB69D11193AA00A0C9605649809073@messaging>
Does any Queensryche fan like this album? It's OK, but not as a QR album,
if you get what I mean. It's a decent 'alternative' album, but OF COURSE
does not measure up to O:M or Empire, for example...
David Dixon
Internet Developer
Integrated Information Systems, Inc.
david@iisweb.com
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:33:46 -0600
From: "James C. Shields" <jimshields@bigplanet.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: astrophysics
Message-ID: <3640E453.8E5089D2@bigplanet.com>
> adn to Joe, if you think its hard to find a progmetal girlfriend, try finding a guy like that that also likes goth industrial and synth pop, and who can keep up with the mind of an astrophysics major!
not real sure about goth industrial, but synth pop is ok, and
astrophysics is no problem, as long as you don't constantly relate
everything to quasars and pangalactic gargleblasters.
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 23:39:33 +0100
From: Philip Griffiths <griffith@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: What's up with Dream Theater?
Message-ID: <3640D7A4.730C8658@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
Hey everyone!
What the hell is wrong with DT? Germany is up in arms! Just about every metal mag around has reported bad
news from our faves camp. There's been talk of JM and DS splitting from the band and wanting to concentrate
on Platypus.....the band also seems to be having communicative problems ("what's the next album gonna be
like?" "I don't know, what do you think?" etc.). Do any of you guys know further details?
Phil
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:53:51 -0300
From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
To: "ytse jam mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: D.C COOPER & ANRE ANDERSEN CLINC
Message-ID: <000001be084e$5547e940$39710ed1@matiasfr>
HI Jamers!!
Yesterday I went to the first EVER clinic of D.C Cooper & Andre Andersen
They are very funny guys,and great musicians too!! [of course!]
By the way ,Where i can find ROYAL HUNT TAB'S ?
See ya!
Agustin.F
Argentina.
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:55:04 -0500
From: Ryan Park <rpark@space-dye.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Cc: Pat.Daugherty@trw.com
Subject: Re: KISS (NDTC)
Message-ID: <4.1.19981104184915.00a2ca30@pluto.he.net>
Pat Daugherty wrote:
> Um, when did KISS ever put out intelligent music? KISS was never about
> 10 minute guitar fests. Their songs are fun, party type songs. That's
> it. Obviously if you only like music like DT, you wont like KISS.
Wrong. The Kiss song "Jungle" is definitely in the running for Song of the
Decade, as far as I'm concerned. It's got a REALLY catchy melodic guitar
theme (like Collective Soul or Creed), and a fair amount of "balls and
chunk." He even SINGS well! I heard it on the radio once and was hooked.
This happens to be the only Kiss song I know (other than "Rock and Roll All
Day"), and therefore the only one I like. But I *really* like this song.
Pat -- are their other albums/songs anything like this? Maybe I'm a bigger
Kiss fan than I realize <g>.
Ryan
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:07:34 PST
From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: i must be weird, then
Message-ID: <19981105000734.19284.qmail@hotmail.com>
>Rick's right though, if you hated CiS, you'll probably hate Tyranny
>also.
i can't listen to Carved in stone past crystalline dream....the piano
interludes among other things just start annoying the hell out of
me.....but tyranny, i like, it just sorta flows, it's got a weird story
about a guy who used to work for the defense department who got fired,
then looked at what he used to do and got beat up in new york city and
started hiding out from the world, sorta like sigourney weaver in the
movie copycat and then fell in love with some chick he met on-line
without ever meeting in person then went to meet her and they started
planning some shit and then DC cooper acting as the voice of the
government sez "So there you are, you've crossed the line, you pathetic
little man" in the most awesome guest vocal i've ever heard, awesome
awesome sneer in that man's voice and the protagonist of the story gets
the message and just friggin RUNS AWAY and the end is that he's hoping
to be able to find his girl again, the one he apparently abandoned to
the good graces of the CIA or FBI or some other such organization.......
and the production is better than CiS too, and somehow, this time
around, I can overlook the cheesy poof vocals and arrangements.....
so tyranny is cool by me
partha
by the way, you all MUST get Vanden Plas "The God Thing"
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