YTSEJAM Digest 4400
Today's Topics:
1) Sonicchat?etc.
by ClPuritan@aol.com
2) Spocks' Beard / Jesse "The Body" Ventura
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
3) Spock's Beard MP3s
by Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
4) Metallica, blah
by Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu>
5) Re: Damage Inc.
by "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl>
6) Re: llica & Megadeth
by "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl>
7) randomnosities
by "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com>
8) ytse-frustration
by Chris Oates <aspect@tinagh.org>
9) NDTC: Grim Reaper
by ShadowBor@aol.com
10) Explorers' Club
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee>
11) recording a cd, and all other stuff included
by Sebastjan Videc <sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si>
12) Re: Load
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
13) Re: llica & Megadeth
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
14) Awake tab book for all instruments... Does it include sheet music?
by Sebastjan Videc <sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si>
15) Ytse-confessions
by AL <al@isd.net>
16) SX
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
17) The Body
by "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:57:08 EST
From: ClPuritan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Sonicchat?etc.
Message-ID: <9d1465cf.36413e34@aol.com>
Hey All,
Does anyone have a transcript of last week's SonicChat with Mike Portnoy? If
so where?
I am not sure, but that jam at the end of Metropolis on OiaLT sounds a lot
like an Extreme song off of Extreme III. I forget the name. Has anyone else
noticed this similarity?
Why would Queensryche try to copy the Seattle sound in 97, when supposedly
grunge died several years before that? If Queensryche sold out and tried to
keep up with the times, they were a little late. HitNF is a mixed bag. In
fact I would have to say that I enjoy 7 songs out of the 14. I wouldn't call
it grunge though.
Lastly, "Mama Said", Metallica's country song is one of the few good songs,
perhaps the best, on Load and ReLoad.
Later,
Mark
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:16:55 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Spocks' Beard / Jesse "The Body" Ventura
Message-ID: <364142D7.2692D895@home.com>
> On Spock's Beard. Someone wrote:
> >>I spotted the following CDs in a local store and would like to ask
> >>for any
> >>reviews (pro or con):
> >>Spock's Beard - The Light
> >>Spock's Beard - Beware of Darkness
> >>Elegy - State of Mind
> >>Keep in mind that I am more of a power/prog metal fan than a prog
> rock
> fan. Thanks!!!
OK. I was in the same boat you're in, I think. I had heard about how
damn great SB was, but was very skeptical, because I'd heard about how
they're "soft", and "happy". Well let me tell you: Spock's Beard is
undeniably awesome! It's fantastic stuff! Check out a few MP3's, and
give it a chance. There's some available at their website, I think. Or
I can always hook you up if you'd like. Go ahead and e-mail me.
Partha wrote:
> and his name is Jesse "the body" Ventura
>
> ex-navy seal, ex body guard to the Rolling Stones, and yes, ex
> professional (as Tom Brokaw pronounced it last night) wrassler, one of
> the icons of my youth......
Don't forget that he is also an ex-actor. He was in "Predator", as well
as "The Running Man".
> congratulations to mr. ventura, now enshrined as the Governor of the
> State of Minnesota
> and to the voters of that state.....to quote a local radio ad, "What the
> (bleep!) were you thinking?" (Joe, you might know which one I'm talking
> about)....
Sure do Partha.
- Joe D.
jdeangelo@home.com
Magellan on ICQ (# 1872723), and IRC chat
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Just another Sunday morning / Seen my diary on the newsstand
Seems we've lost the truth to quicksand / It's a shame no one is praying
'Cause these voices in my heard keep sayin'... / "Love, just don't stare
Reveal the word when you're supposed to"
- Dream Theater "Voices" (lyrics by John Petrucci)
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:32:16 -0800
From: Lisa Marie <ytsegirl@pacbell.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Spock's Beard MP3s
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19981104223207.009f1f90@postoffice.pacbell.net>
At 10:29 PM 11/4/98 -0800, Joe D. wrote:
>
>OK. I was in the same boat you're in, I think. I had heard about how
>damn great SB was, but was very skeptical, because I'd heard about how
>they're "soft", and "happy". Well let me tell you: Spock's Beard is
>undeniably awesome! It's fantastic stuff! Check out a few MP3's, and
>give it a chance. There's some available at their website, I think.
There are 10 MP3s on Spock's Beard's mailing list website, Thoughts...
http://www.spocksbeard.net
There are a couple of Real Audio clips on the official site as well...
http://www.spocksbeard.com
-- Lisa Marie "Jessie" ytsegirl@pacbell.net http://www.dreamt.org/jessie _______________________________ Ytsejam Radio Broadcast http://www.dreamt.org/ytseradio------------------------------
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 23:00:32 -0800 From: Amanda Rosenblum <mildew@ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Metallica, blah Message-ID: <36414D10.3D3C0E1E@ucla.edu>
Im with the Mosh man... I wasnt aware I had subscribed to the Metallica mailing list.
~Amanda
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:06:31 +0100 From: "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl> To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Damage Inc. Message-ID: <001201be088a$d2df2120$21856dc2@dl.xs4all.nl>
Nikki wrote:
<<If it's the same as in the vid 5 Years ---
<<It's the guy from Napalm Death. If it is. . . you may describe the "voice" <<as <<a disgusting deep gutteral grunting with hopes of forming words. >>lol<<
<<If you have caught the video, I'd have to say this is a highlight. THE <<MUSIC ROCKS !!!!
Yeah it's exactly the same one.... I had an mp3 of it, before I was able to get a F*cking hold of the video.... Got it today...... KILLER!!! And yeah Petrucci was frightened by the way that Barny grunted....
Someone mentioned this earlier, but, did you see the smile on JM's face right after mike sticking his tongue out? First time I see him do that....
Stickmaster D.
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:13:21 +0100 From: "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl> To: "YTSEJAM MAILINGLIST" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: llica & Megadeth Message-ID: <001401be088b$c6816e00$21856dc2@dl.xs4all.nl>
Dr. Mosh wrote:
"Metallica is shit... all of it after AJFA... pure shit... unless of course you like country... This guy is smoking some of the best stuff they've ever made on mars... no drugs on earth could account for that statement..."
My god..... Either do your homework, or shut the fuck up...... Maybe you don't like it.... We don't care.....
Stickmaster D.
P.s. The only pice of "country" I can spot in the entire Metallica repertoire, is Mama Said on Load......... :.o(
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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 23:51:32 PST From: "Partha Mukhopadhyay" <ahtrap@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: randomnosities Message-ID: <19981105075132.657.qmail@hotmail.com>
now that i've made an impact ont he mfp lists, i feel this need to stay up there.....
of course, if the desire were taking over every pore of my body (in the same way lusting after Leann Tweeden sometimes does), this would be a separate post unto itself......
anyway
1) got a OiaL promo, AFTER having bought it myself last week assuming that i won't be clumsy enough to break anything in the set i bought, and have already opened, i have given away the promo.....in my position, do you do the same thing? especially considering that you are not the kind of person who allows these types of disc to be lent out to ANYBODY? the only item that i have multiple discs of is APSOG and lunar crush, and the second is because the guy sent me two as a way, i guess, of making up for the delay in sending out the first......
anyway2
how come you fucknuts never mentioned that Different Stages was premiering last night???? (or maybe you did, and that wonderful ytse-computer that can't count straight garbled the jam order and i din't see it in time?)
anyway, i'm in the library studying, and have to move my car, cuz the structure closes at midnight
i walk out, and get in car and turn radio on, and test for echo is on, and it's 'different', like live 'different' and i'm like, holy snotrags, batman, i though TSOR was the single they released early
and then analog kid comes on, and i'm about to turn into the parking lot where i'm gonna put said vehicle, and i squeal away
is this a preview, i ask myself? and then a third song comes on, so i'm thinking that i must drive around a little longer, so I go to white castle, always a thirty minute guarantee.....meaning, at this particular store, if you go into the drive thru anytime before 3 am, you're gonna be stuck in line for at least a half hour (i mean, shit, i could drive out to the suburbs and get White castle and drive back in the time it takes to get thru this store)
but in that half hour, i get to listen to more rush, live! and then there were those funny looks i'm getting from black folks in the parking lot when Tom Sawyer comes on, and I'm turning up the bass, and the volume is already going at levels these speakers were not meant to handle.......
and when i finally get back to the library, i figure the preview is done, and i'm about to get out, when Jo Robinson says they are about to play all of 2112
tell me, does the fact that i got out of the car and went inside, ostensibly to study (which hasn't happened in the three hours i've been here) without listening to 2112, live, on the radio, in its freakin' entirety, qualify me for the title of "fucking idiot"?
It's not lightly i make a claim to Bafu's throne......
i guess there was something about wanting to hear that song thru my own speakers, home style, which are better than the car ones (i think)
then again, it was 2112.......
did i mention that when i left the library, i left my stuff in care of some guy i'd never seen before? this in detroit.....i made myself a new friend tonight.......
partha
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 00:19:42 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@tinagh.org> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: ytse-frustration Message-ID: <199811050823.CAA18627@dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com>
I'll amen all the comments on finding a mate who appreciates good music. (and to echo Amanda, one that has a mind as well) I've just about given up. My solution: get thyself into a band, and hope to meet people at concerts of yours. There's a certain chance that they'll like your music if they like your band. :) We'll see how this works out once we get enough material down to do a show. (Did I mention that we actually found a bass player finally? It's been a while since I posted, I know)
Best of luck to my fellow ytse-lonesome-freaks. My anguished cries of frustration are with yours.
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 03:37:38 EST From: ShadowBor@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: NDTC: Grim Reaper Message-ID: <92f3518b.364163d2@aol.com>
Hey, does anybody know of a website that contains a soundclip of the song "See You in Hell" by Grim Reaper? Some friends of mine and I were recalling a certain episode of Beavis and Butthead where they had that song on. Anyway, I did a number of web searches, and came up with nothing. Sorry for the non DT content, but at least it's short and to the point.
Thanks, Rob
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:39:07 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@estcard.ee> To: Nothing To Say <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Explorers' Club Message-ID: <199811050839.kaa26539@estcard.ee>
]From: NuGgeTMaN <opeckie@base.org>
> 3. Explorers Club "Age of Impact" - Here's where the war will > start...Flame ME, and not the jam! For whoever said this cd is better than > LTE...they need a new pair of ears! first of all...I didn't realize this
I bought that album too. Unlike you, till now I've only been impressed by Terry Bozzio's performance, some Trent Gardner's trombone parts and Michael Bemesderfer's flute solos. Oh yeah, some melodies are pretty catchy as well, but overall, "Age Of Impact" just hasn't started working for me. I hope it hasn't begun to work for me YET, because I'd be really disappointed if the money I spent will prove to be squandered in vain in the long run.
I hope my initial impression will tumble down, as I'm planning to visit an audiophile acquaintance of mine so as to get a good and focused listen and hear every subtlety (and viciousness) that's going on, so don't flame me as of yet. :-)
So, in short, King Crimson's "Larks' Tongues In Aspic" rules majorly and I'd take Bozzio Levin Stevens over Liquid Tension Experiment any day a week. :-)
Raivo Hool NT administrator, Estonian Card Center of Banks
e-mail: raitz@estcard.ee office: (+372) 6 711 416 mobile: (+372) 51 43 567 ICQ: 19980975
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:48:49 +0100 From: Sebastjan Videc <sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si> To: Ytsejam freaklist <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: recording a cd, and all other stuff included Message-ID: <000901be0899$1e4e0280$0cf008a4@stdevil>
Hi everybody. Can any of thos jammers, who have a band and have recorded an album or Cd, tell me how much did it cost them. With the word cost I mean everythiung, from recording, mixing, production, etc. If you would be so kind. And now some DTC: just watched a videc called 7th Heaven from Ibanez. It's a promotional video that cames with a 7-string guitars. A friend of mine bought himself a RG7-620 and all I can say is that this guitar kicks some serious butt. There's also John Petrucci on this video and explains some nice stuff, although it's a little to short(his apperance). Take care and thanks for reply.
Sebastjan
-- Sebastjan Videc [sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si ] [... It's full of stars ...] [... Let Light Surround You ...]
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:11:44 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Load Message-ID: <199811050911.BAA27180@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., Kyle McCabe thus begged: > >>Yeah, why did you bring up that shitty country band? >>-The Doc > >Now why'd you have to go an' do that? No respect these days... >
Respect my ass... why should I respect a band that has sold out in the greatest extreme?
I will stand up for all Metallica bashers religiously, so if you want to keep this thread alive... keep it up...
>>Metallica is shit... all of it after AJFA... pure shit... unless of >course you like country... -the doc > >Bullshit. You're too picky. I think they are a great band, and just >cuz they don't play what YOU want don't mean they suck. And I'm >terribly sorry they didn't consult you before writing a new album...
Goddamn right.. they shoulda quit when Burton died... now they're just fucks looking for a quick dime writing music that deaf donkeys could fart better...
-The Doc
-- L I S T E N - http://progmetal.gmsnet.com <> drkhoe@gmsnet.com <> "The music's dying, but its epitaph will say... it's not over yet." - Explorer's Club, AGE OF IMPACT, IMPACT 2 - FADING FAST
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:12:59 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: llica & Megadeth Message-ID: <199811050912.BAA27192@gms.gmsnet.com>
Before being sacrificed upon the altar..., "Dennis Leeflang" thus begged: > >Dr. Mosh wrote: > >"Metallica is shit... all of it after AJFA... pure shit... unless of course >you like country... This guy is smoking some of the best stuff they've ever >made on mars... no drugs on earth could account for that statement..." > >My god..... Either do your homework, or shut the fuck up...... Maybe you >don't like it.... We don't care.....
When did living in the Netherlands entitle you to a valid opinion?? BAHAHAH
You wouldn't know country if you were swimming in cow shit.
You don't care? That's too bad... cause I'll continue to bash Metallica till the cows come home :p
-The Doc
-- L I S T E N - http://progmetal.gmsnet.com <> drkhoe@gmsnet.com <> "The music's dying, but its epitaph will say... it's not over yet." - Explorer's Club, AGE OF IMPACT, IMPACT 2 - FADING FAST
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:18:50 +0100 From: Sebastjan Videc <sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si> To: Ytsejam freaklist <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Awake tab book for all instruments... Does it include sheet music? Message-ID: <014d01be089d$4e2fdd80$0cf008a4@stdevil>
Hi. There was a thread here about tan books, and I wonder where can they be ordered? I'm interesting for Europe. But could be from anywhere. It has to be for all instruments, not just guitar... Thanks,
Sebastjan
-- Sebastjan Videc [sebastjan.videc@uni-mb.si ] [... It's full of stars ...] [... Let Light Surround You ...]
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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 03:50:18 -0600 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Ytse-confessions Message-ID: <364174DA.328F426@isd.net>
Al Balkiewicz wrote: >One gripe - JLB going a little overboard, putting extra notes >on holds and all that. A little too much for my tastes, but >otherwise he was great vocally. The one thing that has >constantly bothered me with him is his lack of enunciation on >the higher notes. Just totally ruins the songs, especially >Anna Lee's bridge section......ugh.....
Thank you! I wanted to say that myself, I just didn't have the balls to become flame bait. This is nit picking, but we (the Jam) have always held OFB to higher standards then most. That in itself is one of the most honest compliments you could give a musician. IMHO. ----------------------------------------------------------- Rick Audet wrote: >I think there's someone like that on this list, but rumor has it that he's >taken. ;)
>Rick Audet >San Francisco
You've been in California too long. ----------------------------------------------------------- Brian D. Hayden wrote: -About Jesse (The Body) Ventura >Hahahhaaha...guess who voted for the crazy bastard? :D >This will be a verrrrrry interesting four years.
You too, huh? I love it! Career politicians suck. I hope he shakes up Minnesota's entire political system.
Damn, I wanted to see him put Skip Humphrey in a head lock. :( -- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 02:21:57 -0800 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: SX Message-ID: <70F2A25BBC4DD21194B400A024D1C34128E7A6@ms.kallback.com>
> From: David Dixon <David@iisweb.com> > I've been searching for "The Dark Chapter" for months, figuring he > was just a fucking solo artist. Make sure you get all the SX cds before TDC. It's a little wanky in my opinion. It's pretty much just him wanking along with a drum machine. I'm not a guitarist though so I don't know really.
Speaking of drum machines, I went to Wang Chung tonight instead of Joe Satriani. At least it was free.
Trevor
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:19 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: The Body Message-ID: <36418b1a3f6a001@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
Responding to the message of Thu, 5 Nov 1998 02:02:04 -0800 (PST) from AL <al@isd.net>:
> ----------------------------------------------------------- > Brian D. Hayden wrote: -About Jesse (The Body) Ventura > >Hahahhaaha...guess who voted for the crazy bastard? :D > >This will be a verrrrrry interesting four years. > > You too, huh? I love it! Career politicians suck. > I hope he shakes up Minnesota's entire political system. > > Damn, I wanted to see him put Skip Humphrey in a head lock. :(
That would have been beautiful.
You know, I basically voted for him just because the other two were a socialist and a political whore, but the more I think about, the more I think this was something really special. I'm sorry that I missed his rally last night...held at a former horse track, no less, and complete with a mosh pit *instigated by the security force*.
Now THAT is politics!!
You can bet your ass I'll be front and center for his inaguaration, even though it'll be forty degrees below zero outside.
The best quote of the night, from Dan Rather:
"Ventura becoming governor is as likely as Fidel Castro riding into town on the back of a hippopotaumus."
Shall we start calling the zoos, Danny boy?
Anyone who cares can go to www.startribune.com or www.pioneerpress.com for some great articles and quotes about this, including the full text of David Letterman's Top Ten list from last night.
-Brian
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