YTSEJAM Digest 4415
Today's Topics:
1) repost cool Savatage URL
by O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
2) One big happy family
by Chris Schulze <killmary@yahoo.com>
3) ax me again?
by "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
4) DT videos
by Nuno <bnavarro@ppp1.colband.com.br>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4414
by AyameYuki@aol.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4414
by AyameYuki@aol.com
7) Satriani live (some SPOILERS)
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
8) New Yes keyboardist / Lost in time.....(APSoG, ACoS)
by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
9) ndtc-notebook
by "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com>
10) pickups question sorta dtc
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
11) Re: New Yes keyboardist / Lost in time.....(APSoG, ACoS)
by Andrew Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
12) Re: ndtc-notebook
by jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net>
13) Re: ndtc-notebook
by "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
14) Re: ndtc-notebook
by "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net>
15) Band question - NDTC
by Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
16) Don't leave, Lisa!!! SLAP ON THE DDT FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!!!
by "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com>
17) Re: Rotterdam Show / Scarred Records
by Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net>
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:37:31 +0200
From: O-P Komonen <op777@surffi.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: repost cool Savatage URL
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981111113731.0096f290@mail.surffi.net>
I think it was partha who missed this:
http://www.amzmusiczine.com/07_98/featr12.htm
op777
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:45:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Schulze <killmary@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: One big happy family
Message-ID: <19981111104544.9454.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com>
<<>Partha and I will soon be headed to the State Theater to see my 2nd=20
>favorite Italian guitarist....
>I hope everybody here knows who the first is.
nuno? :)>>
Duh. Nuno is Portuguese!!! :) That leaves... Vai? ;) bwahahaha
Ok, so Chuck (also known as mr. Ecksthrey) is somewhat crazy. Icequeen
is a gay nimphomaniac male (first time I see THAT) who I think might
be the alter ego of Jon Parmet (he=B4s awful quiet of late). Dan
McCormack is out eating in the fields of grass. Lonewolf is frustrated
cuz he=B4s still a virgin. Chris Ptacek isn=B4t reading this because he
went home to practice and hasn=B4t gotten out or showered in a few
months. Itchy and Lisa are... busy. Skadz still wants you believe he=B4s
all mad and stuff but he=B4s really the sweetest guy around. Same with
Mosh, he=B4s probably listening to Diana Ross and crying right now.
Ah, the Ytsejam. One big dysfunctional family :)
Oh yeah, Itchy never answered my Marill10n question. What=B4s Radiat10n
like? :P
~Killmary is happy right now... don=B4t ask why.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:58:16 PST
From: "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: ax me again?
Message-ID: <19981111105817.17217.qmail@hotmail.com>
maX wrote:
>"Maybe that's why I don't really listen 2 Satch"<
Add 1 letter and you get... sorry. I just think it's a funny nickname,
that's all..
Stickmaster D. retorts with vomitous extasy at the birth of his
fourth cigar:
>>>For a drummer, the world of music isn't all about show off drumming
dude....
I got most of Vai's and Satriani's albums, Mangini is one of my
heroes....
But I don't just buy records with mega-drummers.... I also have all the
"old" Extreme cd's, Ugly Kid Joe, AC/DC.... These drummers are "good"
but
you know what I mean.... It is all about what a band sounds like.. Not
how
technical the musicians are... Altought when they are, the music MIGHT
be
more interesting...<<<
True, but there is a level where it's just annoying. And Satriani
seems really mainsrtream and uninspired at rimes... but I've only heard
the radio stuff (one of which was good, I guess), and I've seen G3.
-maX
NP: Rush - Signals
KMFDM - Mdfmk
Metallica - ...And Justice For All
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:12:29 -0200
From: Nuno <bnavarro@ppp1.colband.com.br>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: DT videos
Message-ID: <36498D3D.9C0D3C6B@colband.com.br>
I'm glad to say that I've watched Hollow years video a few times here in Brazil at MTV. One
question: have DT made another video from FII ? Do they plan to do ?
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:28:59 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4414
Message-ID: <eb2b331a.36499f2b@aol.com>
ok. that's it. im beyong pissed at the middle man who does the tours. YOU GUYS
NEED TO COME TO ALABAMA. WE DONT BITE ( UNLESS NECESSARY>>HEHE ) AND IM FROM
ALABAMA ! i totally dig your sound..but the locale we call CD stores usually
have that ONE copy left of your CD>..or in that fake voice "im sorry, we're
out of stock...try again in six weeks "/..hello i cannot wait six weeks. i
found a reliable store near a beachfront hotel i stayed at over the weekend a
while back. they had IAW< FII< ACOS<and that other one i cant remember..oh
yeah WDADU....but if i bought them all...that would be about 200 bucks...i got
FII....beachfront hotel...the cover seemed to make sense with the city i was
in..lol but ill get all the others at a later date.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:31:36 EST
From: AyameYuki@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4414
Message-ID: <cebf557.36499fc8@aol.com>
okok..who did that german junk ? you said music is "something"....what does
that last word mean >
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:59:06 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Satriani live (some SPOILERS)
Message-ID: <3649A63A.B03B215E@home.com>
***********SOME SPOILERS*************SOME SPOILERS***************SOME
SPOILERS*****************
Weeeeelllllll....... Partha Mukhopadhyay and I saw Mr. Joe Satriani at
Detroit's State Theater last night.
We were seated towards the front of the balcony, but actually had a
surprisingly good view.
Y'know, it's funny how things work out. I was all pissed about my
friend dicking me over on the concert, and I end up going with Partha,
whom I'd much rather go with anyway since he's a fellow progger (who
actually appreciates good music) and all (and a really nice guy, BTW).
Anyways, here's the skinny (I'll keep this fairly brief): Satriani
played approximately a three hour set, with a 15 minute intermission.
Stu Hamm: I don't think much needs to be said about him. You guys all
know him........ he rocks. His solo is fantastic BTW. My only gripe:
We couldn't hear the guy most of the time. Fortunately they seemed to
turn him up for the last half dozen songs or so.
Jeff Campitelli: Yes, I realize he's no Zonder or Portnoy. But I do
think he's very "competent" (Partha's description.... which I agree
with), and fits Joe's music well. I think the comment somebody made
about Satch just using a drum machine instead was silly.
Joe Satriani: Well, once again I don't think I need to say too much,
the guy kicked everyone's asses last night. Gripe: At certain points,
Joe guitar was mixed WAY too loud, although he was reasonable on other
points.
Highlights:
"Friends", "Summer Song", "Cool #9", "Satch Boogie", "Tears in the
Rain", "Always With Me, Always With You", "Rubina" (the one from Not of
this Earth..... not the one from Extremist), "Ice Nine" (I THINK he
played this one....), also, I forget the name but he played that one
cool blues song from the s/t disc where Joe sings with that distorted
old style blues vocals. He either played "Luminous Flesh Giants", or
"S.M.F." (I get those two's names confused). I think he also played
"Surfing With the Alien", "Circles", "Flying in a Blue Dream", and "I
Believe" (not sure though). There's a bunch of others that I'm not sure
the name of (I'm kinda bad with names when it comes to instrumentals,
not to mention I'm missing a few of his discs, so.......)
More highlights:
TWO encores!
Stu's bass solo.
During the first encore, Joe did a crowd interaction thing where he'd
play a simple lick, then the crowd would repeat it. We exchanged about
six times or so...... then he just played some incredibly fast,
complicated, long thing that nobody could possibly follow. :)
When they came back from the intermission, they played a brief acoustic
mini-set (15-20 minutes perhaps) which was really great, and definitely
one of the high points.
THE VERDICT:
Overall, a really good, enjoyable concert! Hell, how could you go wrong
with THREE hours of Joe?
Partha's verdict: Well, you guys are gonna have to wait for Partha's
words on this one...... but....... I'm willing to bet that he just may
be picking up some more Satch albums in the near future. ;-)
Enough for now,
- Joe D.
jdeangelo@home.com
Magellan on ICQ (# 1872723), and IRC chat
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Just another Sunday morning / Seen my diary on the newsstand
Seems we've lost the truth to quicksand / It's a shame no one is praying
'Cause these voices in my heard keep sayin'... / "Love, just don't stare
Reveal the Word when you're supposed to"
- Dream Theater "Voices" (lyrics by John Petrucci)
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:47:16 -0500
From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: New Yes keyboardist / Lost in time.....(APSoG, ACoS)
Message-ID: <3649B184.50AE80B7@home.com>
Raivo Hool said:
> talk about the new Yes keyboard player (who comes from Moscow and presumably
> smokes on the keys)....
This may be a dumb question, but the guy you're referring to wouldn't be
Vitalij Kuprij (from Artension), is it? He's the only Russian keyboard
player I know...... and he does smoke!
---I noticed something odd. Now that I'm totally into APSoG, the song doesn't even seem long to me anymore! I mean, I listen to this piece of brilliance - and it seems like it's over in 5 minutes! I'm like "wow... it's done already?" I have the same experience with ACoS..... it kicks so much ass it actually seems too short! Anybody else experience this temporal displacement when listening to awesome epic prog songs?
- Joe D. jdeangelo@home.com Magellan on ICQ (# 1872723), and IRC chat
************************************************************************** Just another Sunday morning / Seen my diary on the newsstand Seems we've lost the truth to quicksand / It's a shame no one is praying 'Cause these voices in my heard keep sayin'... / "Love, just don't stare Reveal the Word when you're supposed to" - Dream Theater "Voices" (lyrics by John Petrucci) **************************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:50:09 PST From: "Schnipp -" <schnipp@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: ndtc-notebook Message-ID: <19981111155010.15200.qmail@hotmail.com>
hi folks, sorry but, i wanna buy a notebook. email me private if anybody has special experiences with them, low prices, used for sale or other comment.
Stodgers, I didn't mean to destroy your day. Thanks for the chromakey address. New tour dates in NJ and NY, sounds great to me.
Is there a girl that likes various kinds of music and would like to marry me, 24swm, to get a green card?(alex, still out there?)
Wow, that could start something. later guys, and have a good day gals
schnipp
>innocence caressing me, I never felt so young before<
ps: misheard lyrics. on acos, track 3 , when james says"this is a very special night for us", does anybody else hear" this is a very trecial night through us"?
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:04:09 -0500 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: Ytsejam Mailing list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: pickups question sorta dtc Message-ID: <3649C389.D3A10A0@caribe.net>
Hey.. im planning to change pickups on my mid-price (cheap?) ibanez rg450, it comes with some stock ibanez powersound pickups , which do the job, but hey.i want some dimarzio's... my question is , where can i order an air norton and a steve special from? All my catalogues list other dimarzios, but i havent seen these 2, and i cant find em anywhere.. my 2nd question is, im not experienced in working the electronics on my guitar..so how would i go about installing the pickups? is it easy to do?
Please email me privately
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 08:43:18 -0800 From: Andrew Embler <aembler@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: "A daily dose of Ytsejam..." <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: New Yes keyboardist / Lost in time.....(APSoG, ACoS) Message-ID: <199811111642.IAA16728@network-services.uoregon.edu>
>This may be a dumb question, but the guy you're referring to wouldn't be >Vitalij Kuprij (from Artension), is it? He's the only Russian keyboard >player I know...... and he does smoke!
No, it's a different keyboards, Igor Khoroshyev (sp?), but he has no trouble covering Wakeman's parts. Quite excellent.
>I noticed something odd. Now that I'm totally into APSoG, the song >doesn't even seem long to me anymore! I mean, I listen to this piece of >brilliance - and it seems like it's over in 5 minutes! I'm like "wow... >it's done already?" I have the same experience with ACoS..... it kicks >so much ass it actually seems too short!
Well 2112 easily, but for me, more recently such a description would fit album's like Marillion's "Brave" and Royal Hunt's "Paradox." and Shadow Gallery's "Tyranny." Also "Mindcrime", and the two original beasts, "Yes: Tales from the Topographic Oceans" and "Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway". All of these songs/albums put me in another state of mind completely.
Ain't music grand? Andrew
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:43:56 -0600 (CST) From: jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: ndtc-notebook Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.981111104017.27542C-100000@darkhorse.triad.net>
On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Schnipp - wrote: | |hi folks, sorry but, |i wanna buy a notebook. email me private if anybody has special |experiences with them, low prices, used for sale or other comment. ..
i have. what kind? spiral bound? glued? bound? perforated for easy tear-out? wide rule? college rule? 8.5"x11"? A4? steno?
as for low prices, check your local discount store, like the *marts (those wacky brothers, k and wal) or a drug store, etc.
used? i dunno about that. only if it was really special.
:)
-- john jens + jjens@webzone.net + http://www2.webzone.net/~jjens
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:12:48 -0500 From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: ndtc-notebook Message-ID: <001501be0d96$84238b50$3a1110ac@viper.clemson.edu>
>used? i dunno about that. only if it was really special.
yeah, i've gotten used notebooks before, they just had all the used pages ripped out of em and had like 20 pages left. great price tho. :) moo.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:20:50 -0700 From: "KorgX3" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: ndtc-notebook Message-ID: <004901be0da8$a8ab0680$0201010a@chuck>
>i wanna buy a notebook. email me private if anybody has special >experiences with them, low prices, used for sale or other comment.
>i have. what kind? spiral bound? glued? bound? perforated for easy >tear-out? wide rule? college rule? 8.5"x11"? A4? steno?
LOL! Trying to get a serious question past anyone on here is like Pee Wee Herman anal raping Jambi with a cattle prod.
A real answer: My friend just bought a ProGen P2-233 notebook that's all suped up (for a notebook) for around $1700. I read in the Computer Shopper that Notebook prices are expected to keep dropping during the holiday season, so unless it's a dire necessity I wouldn't jump into one just yet as you might save yourself a few $$$ by waiting. :) It's not a bad notebook either. I dunno about used, tho. I rarely trust anyone to buy used stuff.
Hey, I don't know all the answers, so I make most of them up. :P -- KorgX3 says today's secret word is "Ptacek." If someone says the secret word today you have to scream real loud, OK?
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:27:23 -0500 (EST) From: Al Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: TheListFromTheDepthsOfHell <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Band question - NDTC Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.96.981111142532.3590A-100000@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
An interesting question was asked of me, and I figure who better to ask than the folx at the Ytsejam.
Does anyone know of any band names that are "pop culture" references?
Examples:
Veruca Salt Seven Mary Three (CB police name for the guys on CHiPs)
Any others?
-Al
===================================================================== b l i n d l a b o r s t h e b l i n d a n d I a m u n w i l l i n g t o u n c o v e r m y e y e s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu OR sigma982@yahoo.com OR theprof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:32:05 -0500 From: "Earle Jason" <earle_jason@bah.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Don't leave, Lisa!!! SLAP ON THE DDT FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!!! Message-ID: <3649F445.173A55D1@bah.com>
ytsejam@ax.com wrote: > > YTSEJAM Digest 4413 > > Well, last night I was quite surprised to see a commercial for the Rush live > cd during Nitro. Does this mean that wrestlers like Rush or what? :} i havent > heard a thing on NY radio for it though. not that it matters cause i'm leaving > on thursday for MN. > Well instead of sending another post i'll just say farewell now cause I'll > probably be unsubscribing tomorrow. i'm sure i'll be back, not that yall care > :-p now be nice people! > > ~Lisa
Yeah, I noticed that too! Well, there has been mention before of Raven wearing a "Dead Winter DEad" Savatage T-shirt...and several people have been spotted waving "Portnoy Rules" or the Majesty symbol in the crowd... Maybe wrestlers AREN'T just physically superior, highly intelligent, skilled, social, and couth members of society. Perhaps, in addition to all their many talents, they are prog fasns as well. Holy horsehit, I love this (quasi)sport.
I wanna see John Myung throw down that pansy ass bass and start Power- Bombing mother fuckers all over the stage. YEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
In the words of Ric Flair....."WOOOOOOOH!"
-Loooooooeeeeeeeeee 3:16
P.S. I know it's too late since ya probably already left, but *I* think yer pretty cool, ~Lisa. She seemed nice and personable in the few instances I e-mailed her. I wouldn't kick her out of bed, anyways.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:52:52 -0500 From: Adam Pye <alpine@bellsouth.net> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Rotterdam Show / Scarred Records Message-ID: <4.1.19981111150639.009fe600@mail.lig.bellsouth.net>
Chris C. said:
>I'm also interested in getting this. I'm only looking to trade and >I'm no longer interested in buying bootlegs (now I agree with whoever >criticized me because I posted that I was willing to pay for a show).
That was probably me. :) Glad I got at least one convert. Let me know if you ever want to trade. Bootlegging is in the grey area of legality/morality in the first place, but selling boots (a "bootscalper") is definitely across that line. Making pure monetary profit off of someone else's work.
As for the Rotterdam Fan Club gig. One of the old-timers on the Jam (can't remember who) said when Ryan Whitaker first announced he'd be selling this boot, "I remember when things like this would have been tree'd..." And that YtseGeezer was 100% right. A "tape tree," for those who don't know, is just a bunch of people getting organized (with the traders diagrammed into a "tree" type of form) and trading a single show. It's an _excellent_ way to spread shows that SHOULD be spread, like the Fan Club show (and the Rudess Dream Theater show, which Scarred will also be scalping soon). The Tree method is cheap, further builds a community of people interested in the same type of music, and allows people who ordinarily wouldn't hear this kind of thing to do so because you don't have to have anything to trade in the first place to be on the tree.
Scarred, on the other hand, will, by current pricing, sell the 2CD set for about $40 including (worthless) artwork on the liner and on the CD, which I (and many other experienced traders I have talked to) think is simply ludicrous - especially for a FAN CLUB gig that all fans should have access to. I've talked with Ryan before and he seemed like a really nice guy, but something I saw on his webpage prompted me to single Scarred Records (NOT Ryan himself) out at the Ytsescalper of the Month. They've always had excellent service/delivery times from what I've heard, but apparently they've been having some problems in this area recently. Understandable, but this is the first thing to appear when you load up Scarred Record's web page:
"Don't email me intending for me to reply unless you have a serious emergency... Your order is in safe hands... over a thousand customers (??) can testify... There's been some delay recently, but that doesn't mean you won't get your discs."
This sounds frighteningly like the start of another Ytsehack (ex)bootlegger who will remain nameless. I 'spose we'll do what we've always done with this kind of thing. Get a good group of traders together (20-25), buy one copy of this and CD-R it for everyone. We'd only do this if Scarred's sound quality was far above other sources, which I highly doubt. Both the Fan Club show and the Rudess show are already fairly easily available (both are on CD boots already with excellent quality).
This is NOT meant as a flame against Ryan himself, as he's proven himself to be a good guy, but against his business. I think it's very important to recognize the difference... It just bothers me. Selling boots is detestable enough, but getting the Prism Syndrome is totally unacceptable and should be dealt with as such. I hope Scarred doesn't come to that.
Take care all...
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