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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Best rock movie of all times
     by James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
      2) DTIFC Stuff.
     by "Susan Ostrich" <sostrich@mail.phila.k12.pa.us>
      3) Re: Who taped the Kings X show in Atlanta?(NDTC)
     by Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
      4) Hrm. Take 2 (DTIFC).
     by "Syrinx" <syrinx@erotomania.org>
      5) Death/Hammerfall
     by MusicSnob@aol.com
      6) Rush/prog in HOF
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      7) THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
      8) Miscellaneous slaggings
     by Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com>
      9) Reviews
     by Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl>
     10) E-mail Adress?
     by "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
     11) Explorer's Club - AOI mentioned
     by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
     12) LaBrie, vocals, etc
     by Andrew Goktepe <goktepe@citilink.com>
     13) Dragonlance (absolutely no DT content)
     by Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com>
     14) Heavy Machinery/DT ramblings
     by John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com>

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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:23:35 -0800
    From: James Thorpe <mail@jamesthorpe.com>
    To: <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Best rock movie of all times
    Message-ID: <008601be1004$4cf9b760$5fa4d6d0@multimedia>

    >Hi Jamerssss!!
    >Yesterday I saw for 134 times the movie "THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME"
    >and i have to say is the best movie i ever see!!!!
    >Are you agree?
    >See ya!!
    >P.D.:I think Portnoy is agree with me!

    Spinal Tap!

    peace,
    --james--
    www.jamesthorpe.com
    mail@jamesthorpe.com

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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:25:58 -0500
    From: "Susan Ostrich" <sostrich@mail.phila.k12.pa.us>
    To: "A Ytse Besides Itself" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: DTIFC Stuff.
    Message-ID: <001901be1004$a04bfa40$eacacdcf@ms116920>

    >Hiya, gang.
    >
    > Since many of you either are in the DTIFC or plan to be, here is the
    >letter than will be on the official website as of tomorrow morning:
    >
    > - begin -
    >
    >Dream Theater International Fan Club
    >Headquarters address:
    >DTIFC - PO BOX 1067
    >Caterham, Surrey CR3 5ZU
    >England
    >
    >Dear Dream Theater Fan,
    >
    >Thank you for your enquiry concerning the Dream Theater International
    >Fan Club. The band has gotten got together with us on this project to
    >try to make things work smoothly, so that you, the important fan, get
    >a reliable source and service of information, news and interviews. We
    >both hope you will find your association with the band and the Fan Club
    >a very rewarding experience.
    >
    >FOR FANS IN NORTH, CENTRAL and SOUTH AMERICA ONLY
    >
    >The cost of joining the Fan Club for one year is $18. Payment is to
    >be in U.S. funds ONLY, and check are to be payable to: YTSE JAMS. DO
    >NOT make them payable to DTIFC, as they will be returned to you!
    >
    >Mail them to:
    >
    >DTIFC
    >PO Box 52704
    >Philadelphia, PA 19115
    >USA
    >
    >FOR FANS IN THE REST OF THE WORLD
    >
    >The cost of joining the Fan Club for one year is =A312. Send =A312 in th=
    e
    >form of a UK cheque or International Money Order, made payable to:
    >"YTSE JAMS" - DO NOT make them payable to the Dream Theater
    >International Fan Club, DTIFC, or anything else other than "YTSE JAMS"
    >as you will have them returned to you unfulfilled!
    >
    >You may also pay in cash in Pounds Sterling Only, although this is not
    >recommended. If payment is to be sent this way, it should always be
    >sent by registered mail.
    >
    >Payment to be in UK Pounds Sterling only!
    >
    >Mail to:
    >
    >DTIFC
    >PO Box 1067
    >Caterham, Surrey CR3 5ZU
    >England
    >
    >For your membership fee, you will receive an initial joining pack,
    >which will include:
    >
    >1. The latest issue of the quarterly magazine "Images And Words". This
    >contains news, interviews, letters, and a chance for you the fans to
    >ask the band questions. You will also receive a further three issues as
    >part of your membership,
    >
    >2. A photograph of the band.
    >
    >3. Any additional items we have at the time.
    >
    >For back issues of the magazine, please write to the HQ address in
    >England. Copies are $3 each, including postage. #2, 5 & 6 are sold out,
    >but the majority up to #15 are still available. Payment for back issues
    >must be in Dollars CASH, no checks, and must be sent to the HQ address
    >in England.
    >
    >We look forward to welcoming you into the Dream Theater fold!
    >
    >Neil Elliott: Director - Dream Theater International Fan Club.
    >Michael Ostrich: North America DTIFC Director
    >
    >NOTE: Please read the instructions very carefully on where to send to,
    >how much to pay, who to make payment to. This way things work out MUCH
    >easier and smoother.
    >
    >Thanks!
    >Neil & Mike
    >
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    >Please complete the details below.
    >*optional
    >
    >Name_________________________________________ Male * Female*
    >
    >Address______________________________________
    >
    >Birthdate*___/____/______
    >
    >City/State____________________________________
    >
    >Zip/Post Code____________ Country______________________________
    >
    >Email___________________________________________________
    >
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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:21:25 -0500
    From: Phil Carter <phil@usefulware.com>
    To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Re: Who taped the Kings X show in Atlanta?(NDTC)
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981114152125.006a9270@pop.usefulware.com>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids....

    Darth1 wants to know:
    >I'm looking for the guy that taped the Kings X / Galactic Cowboys show at the
    >Cotton Club in Atlanta last Wednesday. I was listening to it out back by your
    >car after the show with Paul Cashman, Phil Carter and another friend of mine.
    >I want a copy of that boot very much! (So, does my friend)... That version of
    >"A Box" that they did was incredible and the crowd response and singing was
    >totally cool.
    >So, if you are that guy, please email me: Darth1@aol.com.

    Just so everyone else knows, the fellow he's talking about was Brian
    "Soundchaser" Kelley. I'd help Darth out but I don't know Soundchaser's
    address :) so if anybody else does, drop him a line.

    ta,
    Phil

    =========================================================
    Phil Carter -- phil@usefulware.com http://www.mindspring.com/~philcarter
    "Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
            -- Berthold Auerbach

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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:24:03 -0500
    From: "Syrinx" <syrinx@erotomania.org>
    To: "A Ytse Besides Itself" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
    Subject: Hrm. Take 2 (DTIFC).
    Message-ID: <003d01be100c$b978b460$4fc9cdcf@ms116920>

    let's try this again, shall we? :)

     - mike.

     - begin foward -

    Dream Theater International Fan Club
    Headquarters address:
    DTIFC - PO BOX 1067
    Caterham, Surrey CR3 5ZU
    England

    Dear Dream Theater Fan,

    Thank you for your enquiry concerning the Dream Theater International
    Fan Club. The band has gotten got together with us on this project to
    try to make things work smoothly, so that you, the important fan, get
    a reliable source and service of information, news and interviews. We
    both hope you will find your association with the band and the Fan Club
    a very rewarding experience.

    FOR FANS IN NORTH, CENTRAL and SOUTH AMERICA ONLY

    The cost of joining the Fan Club for one year is $18. Payment is to
    be in U.S. funds ONLY, and check are to be payable to: YTSE JAMS. DO
    NOT make them payable to DTIFC, as they will be returned to you!

    Mail them to:

    DTIFC
    PO Box 52704
    Philadelphia, PA 19115
    USA

    FOR FANS IN THE REST OF THE WORLD

    The cost of joining the Fan Club for one year is =A312. Send =A312 in the
    form of a UK cheque or International Money Order, made payable to:
    "YTSE JAMS" - DO NOT make them payable to the Dream Theater
    International Fan Club, DTIFC, or anything else other than "YTSE JAMS"
    as you will have them returned to you unfulfilled!

    You may also pay in cash in Pounds Sterling Only, although this is not
    recommended. If payment is to be sent this way, it should always be
    sent by registered mail.

    Payment to be in UK Pounds Sterling only!

    Mail to:

    DTIFC
    PO Box 1067
    Caterham, Surrey CR3 5ZU
    England

    For your membership fee, you will receive an initial joining pack,
    which will include:

    1. The latest issue of the quarterly magazine "Images And Words". This
    contains news, interviews, letters, and a chance for you the fans to
    ask the band questions. You will also receive a further three issues as
    part of your membership,

    2. A photograph of the band.

    3. Any additional items we have at the time.

    For back issues of the magazine, please write to the HQ address in
    England. Copies are $3 each, including postage. #2, 5 & 6 are sold out,
    but the majority up to #15 are still available. Payment for back issues
    must be in Dollars CASH, no checks, and must be sent to the HQ address
    in England.

    We look forward to welcoming you into the Dream Theater fold!

    Neil Elliott: Director - Dream Theater International Fan Club.
    Michael Ostrich: North America DTIFC Director

    NOTE: Please read the instructions very carefully on where to send to,
    how much to pay, who to make payment to. This way things work out MUCH
    easier and smoother.

    Thanks!
    Neil & Mike

    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Please complete the details below.
    *optional

    Name_________________________________________ Male * Female*

    Address______________________________________

    Birthdate*___/____/______

    City/State____________________________________

    Zip/Post Code____________ Country______________________________

    Email___________________________________________________

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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:52:18 EST
    From: MusicSnob@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Death/Hammerfall
    Message-ID: <20cf6eb7.364dfb92@aol.com>

    >Has anyone seen DEATH on their recent tour. I want to go and
    >check out HAMMERFALL play.

    Since the tour started yesterday (11/13/98), I doubt too many people on this
    list have seen the show yet. I did, and there was one other 'jammer there,
    so...anyway, Hammerfall was the opener and played to a very enthusiastic crowd
    for their first U.S. date ever. I think they were pleasantly surprised.
    However, Hammerfall, even though they played well, didn't do a whole lot to
    impress me, as their music is a *bit* too straight-forward, and at times
    borders on the cheesy. Death was Death. Technically impressive, but a bit
    repetitive.

    CD of the Day: Angra - Fireworks

    Kevin

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    Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:01:32 +0100
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: Rush/prog in HOF
    Message-ID: <364E0BCC.F60D7896@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:26:27 -0500
    > From: "TheCowGod" <dmc@dreamt.org>
    > Subject: Re: RUSH and hall of fame
    >
    > >know what i mean). but picky or not, rush's induction this year
    > >imo would've sent a message to the rock listening world that
    > >prog rock WAS and STILL IS an important genre of rock that
    > >can't be ignored.
    >
    > so, does the lack of their induction mean that prog rock ISN'T an
    > important genre of rock and CAN be ignored? moo.

    Good one moo!
    Ytseworld, can we be impartial enough to see this thing clear?
    Nevermind OUR tastes (we love prog, old 'n new), but does actualyl those
    old prog bands influenced enough of the present music??? Not according
    to us, according the public!!!

    Were (Are) all those Yes, Jethro Tull, Rush, Gentle Giant, Focus, Camel
    bands really appretited and praised in music history?

    > From: "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
    > Billy Joel didn't get in because of any unreleased stuff, so I
    > don't care if he gets hit or not. The only cool song that
    > _I_ know he did was "We didn't start the fire"...

    Woohoo! Cool pop song! ;)
    ----------------
    Later, CyberDuke

    Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/
    E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk
    ICQ# 17392722

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    Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:40:31 +0100
    From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
    To: ytsejam@axnet.net
    Subject: THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME
    Message-ID: <364E14EE.4A326FE4@mol.com.mk>

    > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:30:47 -0300
    > From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar>
    > Subject: Best rock movie of all times
    >
    > Hi Jamerssss!!
    > Yesterday I saw for 134 times the movie "THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME"
    > and i have to say is the best movie i ever see!!!!
    > Are you agree?

    OH YEAH DUDE! :)

    I LOOOVE that Dazed and Confused weird Page's solo with the movie
    sequences on it! I would appretiate it to hear some explanations of WHAT
    does it mean? :)

    Dark scarry night, barefoot Page's climbing dangerous cliffs toward
    oldman with lifted lantern in his hand... Ya got it already! :)

    If not anyone else, yo Matija, can you give it a try? Post privately if
    ya

    Phew, it's been a long time since I last saw that one! Speaking on those
    days, gotta go now and watch the awesome Deep Purple "California Jam"
    concert! All who didn't see it - drop dead, since you missed THE lecture
    no. 1 in hard rock! ;)

    -- 
    Later, CyberDuke
    

    Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722

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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:05:54 +0000 From: Cyberwolf <ninja@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Miscellaneous slaggings Message-ID: <364DD48D.ABC88730@mindspring.com>

    Yo people who dis american songwriting (and we should emphasize that term) icons Billy Joel and Bruce Springsteen should refrain from such bad karma inducing tendencies to do such a thing. They have longevity for a reason. Lets hope our progressive bands last that long, integrity intact. And also, PArty on, dudes.

    SM

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    Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 01:16:20 +0100 From: Richard Karsmakers <karies@wxs.nl> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Reviews Message-ID: <364E1D54.48D6@wxs.nl>

    I noticed that people have been putting reviews of recent albums in the Ytsejam. These include the new Yngwie live CD and the new King's X album. Perhaps it would be worth pointing out that: A) A lot of recent albums are reviewed in W3M3 magazine (http://www.scriba.org/w3m3), including these albums. You might want to compare reviews to see multiple opinions. B) I am always on the lookout for people who'd like to write reviews for W3M3. Films, music, software or books will do. -- \===-- Richard Karsmakers -- karies@wxs.nl -- ICQ #18645533 --===/ | "ST NEWS" Atari disk magazine - stnews.atari.org | | "World Wide Web Multi Media Magazine" -- www.scriba.org/w3m3 | | "Twilight World" magazine -- www.scriba.org/twilight | | Atari ST Scene Reunion -- www.scriba.org/stniccc2000 | | GWAR FAQ - www.gwar.net/fuq/index.html | | Plantiac Adoration Shrine -- home.wxs.nl/~cronos | | Disk Magazine WebRing -- www.scriba.org/diskmags | /===--- P.O. Box 67, NL-3500 AB, Utrecht - The Netherlands ---===\

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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:47:00 -0300 From: "Matija" <fmatias@peoples.com.ar> To: "ytse jam mailinglist" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: E-mail Adress? Message-ID: <003501be102a$93eff500$3a710ed1@matiasfr>

    Hi Jamers!!! Mike Portnoy hve posted in this list? Someone knows his e-mail adress? Thanxx Matija.

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    Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 01:35:44 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Explorer's Club - AOI mentioned Message-ID: <364E21E0.455F656C@mol.com.mk>

    Hi all!

    Just read my new digest of "The St. Cleve Chronicle" - The Jethro Tull mailing list. Boy, many grandpas here! :) Like, " I first went Tull's concert back in 1972!" Huh, I wasn't even born! ;)

    Anyway, I was WAY surprised to read this from older subscriber to the list:

    > I would also mention that a new "band" of sorts called > 'Explorer's Club' from Magna Carta Records has recently released > an album called "Age of Impact". I would call this very "hard" > progressive rock--not to everyone's tastes. It features Terry > Bozzio on drums, Bill Sheehan and John Petrucci. The album was > conceived and produced by Trent Gardner of Magellan fame. What's > interesting is Trent Gardner's liner notes where he makes it > very clear that he is a tried and true Tull afficionado. > > As further testament to Tull, one of the tracks on > "Age of Impact" has some extremely Ian Anderson-esque flute > playing, so that I half-expected to see his name as one of the > guest artists. (It's not). This album is a bit hard for my > tastes, but it does have some glorious moments.

    He-he-he. I guess the grandpa can't handle those balls 'n chunk guitar riffs! ;) But at least he likes it and probably has it.

    I already presented Dream Theater and Magellan to this mailing list, since I don't think these folks see what's going on very much tese days (like they can see DT on MTV or so! :(( )

    Hope you found this interesting to share it with ya! :)

    P.S. Jaco boy, you better send those CDs so that I don't embarrass myself speaking about albums I don't owe yet! ;)))))

    ----------------- Later, CyberDuke

    Home Page http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Gym/3466/ E-mail duskob@mol.com.mk ICQ# 17392722

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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 23:36:34 -0600 (CST) From: Andrew Goktepe <goktepe@citilink.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: LaBrie, vocals, etc Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.981114232805.20589B-100000@homebase.citilink.com>

    When I first discovered Dream Theater at the end of last year, every element of the band, except some of the keyboards, pulled me in strongly. I absolutely love LaBrie's voice in the studio. I thought he sounded good when I saw them in Hinckley, but some of the live stuff I've listened to supports the comments about the difficulty of matching up to that all the time. While I agree that Cornell would be very interesting, I hope LaBrie is here to stay for a while.

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    Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 00:51:45 -0500 From: Joe DeAngelo <jdeangelo@home.com> To: YTSEJAM <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Dragonlance (absolutely no DT content) Message-ID: <364E6BF1.F9F636B1@home.com>

    Pete Tatischev asked: > Can anyone here angilghten me as to when the original Dragonlance books > were published?

    The original printing of the first book ("Dragons of Autumn Twilight") was 1984.

    BTW, I first read these books when I was in junior-high..... and they really left a long-lasting impression on me. Good stuff.

    --

    - Joe D. jdeangelo@home.com Magellan on ICQ (# 1872723), and IRC chat

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    Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 23:07:30 -0800 (PST) From: John Parks <jpyyz@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam dream theater <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Heavy Machinery/DT ramblings Message-ID: <19981115070730.7055.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com>

    I just got Heavy Machinery by Johansson, Johansson and Holdsworth. This is a very good disk. Its heavy fusion, has lots of weird time sigs and some very skilled playing is done in the more extended jams.

    Now DT content.

    As we all know when DT finished making FII they had few left over songs. If you could choose one song that DT would re-record and put on the next studio album, what would it be? I think I would have to go with Raise the Knife. I love this song, just wish I could find a copy with the lyrics. It has to be out there somewhere...I remember hearing it before DT took the stage. It was played between the opening act and DT while the tech crew were setting their gear up.

    later all,

    == John

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