YTSEJAM Digest 4444
Today's Topics:
1) No DTC
by "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
2) Re: Trial of Tears & The Great Gatsby
by Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
3) Guitarists, Drummers, Sex with drumsticks, etc.
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
4) Star Wars Trailer Released!! (NDTC)
by EricPMetze@aol.com
5) Re: Best Guitarists
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
6) Re: Italianprog
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
7) Re: Star Wars Trailer Released!! (NDTC)
by jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net>
8) Petrucci/Ibanez
by Steven Zebrowski <szebro1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU>
9) Re: FinnHomos on 5YIAL
by JamesAhab@aol.com
10) Re: buying used cd's + Bozzio + drummers + guitarists
by JamesAhab@aol.com
11) Guys, Meat, Liv Tyler, etc.
by Uroborosss@aol.com
12) The Spirit of Christmas
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
13) Ytsejam Expletive Awards
by Uroborosss@aol.com
14) I got me some dt vids
by Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com>
15) Cheetos molesting Supergirl
by "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:08:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "J.T. Beachler" <biggestmuff@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: No DTC
Message-ID: <19981121000804.18098.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com>
>I'm stuck on an Air Force base in Omaha Nebraska. Lemme tell
>yousomething, it
>takes a lot more than good red meat to make a man out of you. >Damn
airforce.
Hmmm...the 'Damn air force' is treating me very well. Oh, maybe
that's because I'm stationed at the Pentagon instead of Nebraska. ;)
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:52:05 -0700
From: Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Trial of Tears & The Great Gatsby
Message-ID: <365600A5.AB7278D2@goodnet.com>
I had someone write me about the similarities between "The Great Gatsby" by F.
Scott Fitzgerald and "Trial of Tears"... Since I haven't read this book (only
read parts in high school), I was wondering if anyone else caught the
connection?
-- ~Michael Kizer <mike@ivorygate.com> <ICQ # 2070538> "Enter ivory gates through midnight skies..." - http://www.ivorygate.com >>> Fates Warning ~ Island In The Stream <<< >>> Dream Theater and Kevin Moore "Unofficial" Song Books <<< >>> Come join the discussions in the new online Bulletin Board! <<<------------------------------
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:40:21 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Guitarists, Drummers, Sex with drumsticks, etc. Message-ID: <008301be1a67$e7db1180$0201010a@chuck>
I have a somewhat strange list of favorite guitarists. Only a couple are in most people's faves, but here's mine (in ever changing order):
Steve Vai (of course), Eric Johnson, John Petrucci, Brian Setzer, Neal Schon, Jesse Cook, Joe Satriani, Dominic Miller, Nuno Bettencourt, David Gilmour, Marty Friedman, and Steve Rothery just to name a few.
Best drummer: The Church Lady of course.
Tom Cox put out an APB on himself: >hey there, I was the tall guy with the awake t-shirt, and long black >hair, 2nd row, but on the right side...
Well, if I ever have a chance to go to a clinic like that where I at least expect a couple of other jammers, I'll make sure I meet them even if I have to stand up while the performer is talking to interrupt him.
Korg: "If there are any jammers in the audience, please converge around me when the clinic is over. Thanks. go ahead Mike."
Mike Portnoy throws a drumstick at Korg, lobotomizing him.
Next jam, random subscriber: "Yah, Mike killed some asshole last night with a drumstick and I still didn't meet any jammers..."
Off to buy a G-string (for my guitar, pervs!) -- KorgX3
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 19:41:00 EST From: EricPMetze@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Star Wars Trailer Released!! (NDTC) Message-ID: <7a10e77a.36560c1c@aol.com>
Everyone must go to StarWars.com!! The first teaser movie trailer was released today!! Download it!
<A HREF="http://www.starwars.com/">http://www.starwars.com/>
[eriC]
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:34:28 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Best Guitarists Message-ID: <365618A4.DF09D53F@imap1.asu.edu>
Todd Fostvedt had like...a cow, man: > I still haven't heard anyone mention Eric Johnson....
Yeah but in Houston they say it's a pentatonic lick. In Houston they say that? Oh I'm all mixed up. That's why they invented the speed knob!
~Eckie doesn't have to make sense. He works for Cancer Man.
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:56:12 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Italianprog Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9811210054290.18261-100000@jaca>
On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Peter Geerts wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Rahul Ananda wrote: > > > This dude I know is going to Italy. If any of you kids > > know of any cool Italian/Euro prog that is readily > > available, kindly drop me an e-mail. > > Italian Prog? Two names come to mind: Rhapsody and Time Machine
Prog != Power Metal.
Italian Prog, for instance: Premiata Forneria Marconi.
[]s, Roger...
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:46:33 -0600 (CST) From: jOHN jENS <jjens@webzone.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Star Wars Trailer Released!! (NDTC) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.981120214422.15209C-100000@darkhorse.triad.net>
On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 EricPMetze@aol.com wrote: | | Everyone must go to StarWars.com!! The first teaser movie trailer was | released today!! Download it! | | <A HREF="http://www.starwars.com/">http://www.starwars.com/>
actually, it was released two days ago (wed). if starwars.com is too slow, try <ftp://ftp.silby.com/pub> and grab the 25MB quicktime version.
fookin a!
-- john jens + jjens@webzone.net + http://www2.webzone.net/~jjens
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:08:02 -0500 From: Steven Zebrowski <szebro1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Petrucci/Ibanez Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981120230802.007be100@pop.gl.umbc.edu>
>No, he never did use 7-string RGs. Back then, he had 3 Universes >two of them was Steve Vai patterned and one of them was a standard >black Universe ......that black one was the one he used in Awake and >ACOS. >But as I said he now has is own JPM style 7-string....
Dude, he used a Universe when he FIRST got the 7-stringer, but since then he had Ibanez build him one to his specifications with I believe a Universe neck and an RG shaped body so it would feel more like his other guitars.
I think Ibanez makes a handful of JPM guitars with the picasso graphic in a variety of colors as well as the Ibanez 90th anniversary guitar, which is called the JPM90, I think. It's an Petrucci model with the camoflauge graphic with a few colored accents, I think.
I could be wrong...
Steve Z
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:17:27 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: FinnHomos on 5YIAL Message-ID: <ed4b6592.36564ce7@aol.com>
>< Someone mentioned a gay sighting on the DT video, in the clip from Finnish Nummirock festival during the chat with Pantera & Slayer dudes... Anyway, about the two guys kissing. You don't actually see them kiss now do you? Actually, I'm 99,9% sure that these guys are straight (nothing wrong being gay)... this is common behaviour when Finnish people get drunk, esp. among men who rarely show their feelings otherwise. I can imagine the scenario "oh man, i love your shirt, where did you get that awesome tee shirt. have some booze oh give me a hug i love your shirt" *drunken growl* :-)) I'm positive that 90 % of the Nummirock crowd was drunk during DT's set. Hmmm... quite an experience to play on Midsummer Eve... ><
Oh no, this was a head-tilting, open-mouth, held for 10 seconds deal
Jim
"speak to me"
NP: Fates Warning, "Chasing Time"
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:32:35 EST From: JamesAhab@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: buying used cd's + Bozzio + drummers + guitarists Message-ID: <2ce5416.36565073@aol.com>
>< There was some discussion a while back, about how it's wrong to buy used cd's because the store profits twice but the band only profits once, at the first sale. I don't understand. At the time of the first return, does the band have to return their royalty? Usually, when you return a product, the store can send it back to the manufacturer so that they can get reimbursed in turn. Is the case in the recording industry? If so, does the band get to keep their share anyway? Or must they return their royalties for that returned product? ><
You buy a CD. You get sick of it after a while. You sell it to a used CD store. They sell it to a customer. It's not a case of buying a CD and returning to the store you bought it from.
Now Bozzio: he's great, he's not human, no one can do what he does...that's all a given, but he lacks simplicity. Sometimes he just needs to chill out and let the vocalist take the spotlight and do his job. And then the instrumental portion kicks in and he can go nuts.
Anyways, most of my faves have been mentioned: Bozzio, Portnoy, Zonder, and to a lesser extent, Beauford and Peart (I'm not much of either of their bands, so I cant judge, but i can still recognize raw talent). Anyway, there's a drummer out there for a band called `June Rich.` They're more like a folk-rock band and with female vocalists, so you wouldn't think that the drummer would get to show his talents much. They played a free outdoor show at my college for about an hour a few months ago, and the drummer blew me away. He was like a combination of every drummer I mentioned aobve. This guy was incredible, but I don't know his name, I just remember that he was excellent and he had a big nose. LOL. and the band was June Rich. i will have to find them some day if only for the drummer
Guitarists: John Petrucci is of course, the man, but he's still a *very* close 2nd to Eric Johnson.
That's it, the end, I am finished.
Jim
NP: R.E.M., "Automatic For the People"
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 01:01:42 EST From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Guys, Meat, Liv Tyler, etc. Message-ID: <a60ff995.36565746@aol.com>
> From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com> > Subject: The snake is choking on its own tail.
Well DUH. How could something devour itself without a stomach bigger than itself?
> Hmm. We've opened up a whole can of worms here...
Ahem, that's "can of urobori."
> <snip>
Are you TRYING to make me think of John Bobbit? Are you TRYING to play on my male fears?? You said "snip" because you KNEW it would make me uncomfortable, and that makes you a MEANY.
> WHOA!! WTF?
I will never let anyone forget the moment they misinterpreted something I said and grossly misjudged my character and/or called me an asshole, privately or publicly, because a few simple questions went unasked. I make no apologies for this personality quirk. If I stopped being difficult in this manner I'd be absolutely perfect, and we all know what happened to the last being who challenged God's ultimate perfection... He was mercilessly struck down, cursed to an eternity of dealing only with humans and the business of sin, having his angelic name forever removed for the powerless human name of "Michael Coghlan"... > The day I meet Steve "Bafu" in person happens to be the day before Halloween, > and I happen to be frantically trying to finish sewing a skirt so I can go "goth" on > the 31st, and suddenly I become a militant, frothing feminist? Hey, not cool...
I was jokingly referring to something that happened a long time ago. If you feel I've publicly slandered you and labeled you as something you are not, welcome to the club. I'll probably remind you of it again sometime in the future, but I'm aware that you aren't a militant, frothing feminist. Upsetting people about past behaviors is something I live for. I can't physically hurt people because it's illegal, but the only thing stopping me from verbally needling someone is my conscience, and there are no laws prohibiting me from stomping my conscience into oblivion.
But I don't consider what I posted (a brief definition of Jerry Bruckheimer for those who weren't familiar with his cinematic trademarks, which happened to feature your name in an introductory remark) to be a serious offense, and if you do please let me know why because I'd like you not to hate me because of it.
> So, before I have more words stuffed in my mouth, I'll make a short > statement. IMHO, the only recent movie "for GUYS" was really Saving Private > Ryan. And even then, missing limbs et al, it was a movie for everyone. I've > seen Armageddon, and while 99.9% of the female population don't look like > Liv Tyler (the lipstick companies would make a *fortune* if we did!) there > was that silly little love scene in there. Is that a moment "for GUYS"?
Add together the themes and characters of "Top Gun," "Con Air," "Crimson Tide," "Beverly Hills Cop," "Days of Thunder," and "The Rock" and count the male "bravado" virtues that are extolled, the women who wear next to nothing and serve no purpose even CLOSE to Lt. Ripley's for adding to the plot, the explosions, the guns, the fast cars (which are all typical devices used to attract male audiences), and the simple fact that Jerry Bruckheimer is considered the biggest woman-disrespecting chauvanist in Hollywood. That equation equals a producer making movies for guys, pissing off a lot of women in the movie industry, and loving every minute of it because he's intrinsically evil. If Don Simpson hadn't killed himself from a drug overdose, he'd be just as feared and hated. This does not mean Bruckheimer will stop himself from cheesily adding a scene in a movie that's so soft and touching it just enrages his opposers further. I do not believe a genuine scene of love between two human beings is possible in a Jerry Bruckheimer production.
> Are guys really softies that need a tender moment full of Aerosmith ballads > to readjust the testosterone level in the theaters? I mean, according to > Bafu's definition, the way for Bruckheimer to make it into a true "guy" > movie would be for Liv Tyler to be severely mauled by flaming shrapnel from > the space shuttle, which would have exploded into thousands of razor-sharp > pieces upon reentry.
Objects on fire exist in just about every Bruckheimer production ever made. As for explosions, go see "Enemy of the State" and count the explosions. (for those of you whose native language isn't English, what I just said was "you ain't got enough appendages in your whole FAMILY to count the explosions in this movie.") As for the re-entry fragments of the space shuttle, they'd probably burn away without that trusty nose-shield. I readily admit Bruckheimer uses a formula that works as far as blockbuster action movies are concerned. And yes, he's making movies for a male audience and he has no plans to change his ways. I will no longer defend his formula, and I have never sworn allegiance to him. If what I have said about him makes you feel attacked in some way, be aware that I am ceasing.
> And, maybe, I would have cheered.
I would have flipped you in mid-air the way cheerleading squads do these days. Yeah, when exactly did cheerleading coaches decide that instead of just jumping around and cheering, cheerleaders ought to be flung several feet into the air by a team of men and do little kicks or flips or shout completely bizarre syllables in mid-air and try to spell out team names letter by letter?
Dream Theater rules.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:34:49 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: The Spirit of Christmas Message-ID: <005101bcf5e3$0689b280$430d84d0@korgx3>
Dear Santa Portnoy, All I want for Christmas is a Tama StarClassic drumset with a compass on the snare and this thing which tells time. Oh, and world peace. I know the world peace is tough so maybe I'll trade it for an original copy of the Majesty Demos. oh, and i'll need some sticks for the drumset as I don't want to use the hard Rock Cafe Zildjians i have. And a coffee maker because I'll be up late playing drums all night. And I also want a CD with full demo versions of Where Are You Now? and Rais the Knife. That'd be way cool. And if it's no trouble, could you place the decapitated head of that lady who wears spandex to work all the time in my stocking? That'd really fulfill all of my Christmas wishes. Thanks!
A poor little proghead all alone in southern Idaho.
> Italian Prog, for instance: Premiata Forneria Marconi.
Just add hamburger, cover, and simmer for 40 minutes. Let stand for 10 minutes and it makes a meal the whole family can enjoy.
Anyway, I was finally able to watch 5YiaL tonight. Hellaprops to Mike for such a wonderous beast. It only helped reinforce why Derek is such a Stud McLemon.
>variety of colors as well as the Ibanez 90th anniversary guitar, which is >called the JPM90, I think. It's an Petrucci model with the camoflauge
Go to http://www.ibanez.com/98models/JPM90TH.html Add this to my list Santa Portnoy!
You guys are hella-lame. Hella, hella, hella... -- KorgX3
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 02:01:28 EST From: Uroborosss@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Ytsejam Expletive Awards Message-ID: <38a90298.36566548@aol.com>
> From: "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com> > Subject: My forbidden... dare I say the word?... OPINION!!!
Alright, ya'll listen up. This made me laugh out loud. Someone really needs to catalog all the creative expletives that spring forth on this mailing list. Some of them are truly noteworthy and deserve a place in a Ytsejam Expletive Hall Of Fame.
Max Verran wailed like a banshee riding atop a supersonic fire engine screeching to a halt with tires made of human fingernails on a road constructed of black slate:
> You can go get fucked by Liv Tyler's dad!
hahahah this is too much, this is contending with "Fucking bananaheads!!" for Most Hilarious Ytsejam Expletive Of 1998. Consider yourself in the hall of fame, Max. :)
Boy, a DOUBLE light-saber. That ROCKS. A light-saber naginata would rock harder. Light-saber nunchakus. Light-saber BOOMERANGS. A Jedi Concorde jet with propellers made of spinning light-sabers would get Jedis from one end of the galaxy to the other faster than the Millenium Falcon. I bet in the Jedi Nightclub the ceiling fans are rotating light-sabers. I bet the bartender keeps a light-saber behind the bar for when trouble starts up. If Hagar The Horrible were a Jedi, would his light-saber have little notches and scratches in it from fighting vikings like it does in the cartoon? If Inigo Montoya were a Jedi, would he have the guts to pull that "I am not left handed" line with Darth Vader? Did the Jedi Knights ever have a renegade bunch of Jedi Musketeers who broke away from the royal order and merrily disrupted the galaxy? And did they actually use muskets or were they Lightsabereers? If Jerry Garcia were a Jedi, I bet his light-saber would be TYE-DYED. And Steve Vai? Marbelized, baby...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 02:26:13 -0500 From: Joshua Rasiel <jrasi@bigfoot.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: I got me some dt vids Message-ID: <36566B15.639294CB@bigfoot.com>
I just bought two dt videos from an auction site. the first is just a taped half hour news magazine type thing, that covers one of last year's shows.
The second is really cool. It's from July 20, 1993, in Toronto. Is there a name for this show? Is it in the vault? because it rooooocks! It's got puppies on acid! To live forever! James sings fortune in lies, and status seeker! And it's not even over yet.
I've always wanted more WDADU songs with james, because those are great songs, and charlie is cool, but he sounds like katherine hepburn and I can't take it anymore.
-- Joshua Rasiel jrasi@bigfoot.com www.j51.com/~mrasiel "Shop Smart. Shop...S-Mart!"
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:49:36 PST From: "Max Verran" <maxverran@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Cheetos molesting Supergirl Message-ID: <19981121074939.3171.qmail@hotmail.com>
Todd Fostvedt whispers through a megaphone while he secretly abuses cheetos:
>>>I still haven't heard anyone mention Eric Johnson....<<<
Um, why would we? Maybe he sucks and doesn't deserve to be on G3...
Mike Coulam admires moccasins from a distance as the Indians molest the sleeping buffalo:
>I'll finally throw my two cents in on this one. Portnoy is definitely on >my list, but so is Igor Cavalera from Sepultura. He's probably my >favourite. He's got some really amazing work on "Roots" and "Chaos A.D." >The beat on "Ratamahatta" is phenomenal.
EVERYBODY disregard this post... he listens to Sepultura...
Amanda Rosenblum convinces a corner of her wall that she really IS Supergirl, and will now demonstrate her flying abilities by jumping off the moon:
>>>I dont wanna hear about this and that celebrity fucking who and so's dad, or this bitch munching that bitch's bearded clam!!!!!<<<
Oh, no. You've got it all wrong about the bearded part, see... ;-)
>>>Thats why I go to college and live in a co-ed dorm! To hear all that crap from a bunch of sexually deprived 18 year olds!<<<
Well, point taken... but guess what maX is?
Anyway, I just HAD to make that last comment (cuz i'm a stupid moron -- and I'M usually the one saying this or that doesn't belong on the Ytsejam), but I do agree this shouldn't be here...
<So why respond to it then, maX?>
Damn.
O-KAY, ANYWAY, some of you were mentioning hard-to find CDs. Well, I'm looking for Cusco's Planet Voyage album (but could be any as far as you're concerned, right?) which was not released in this country and has now been discontinued.
Do any of you have any ideas as to how I can find it?
Probably not. But thanx anyway...
-maX
NP: The Best Of A Flock Of Seagulls KMFDM - Angst Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene
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