YTSEJAM Digest 4461
Today's Topics:
1) alt.music.WHATEVER
by AlexandroTalamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br>
2) Straight Ahead Shred-Fests (NDTC)
by "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" <MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca>
3) Re: Straight Ahead Shred-Fests (NDTC)
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
4) Re: Phil Collins....
by "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
5) Re: ease down, guy
by "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 4460
by AyameYuki@aol.com
7) Re: alt.music.WHATEVER
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
8) Re: Guitar players
by "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net>
9) Black Light Syndrome
by CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk>
10) Superior [24.11] & Bruce Dickinson [25.11] concerts short reviews
by "Volodya" <oanrec@club-internet.fr>
11) LI Portnoy Drum Clinic
by Perk1994@aol.com
12) Re: Straight Ahead Shred-Fests (NDTC)
by "Ryan Roehrich" <ryanscott@mindless.com>
13) Analog kid---M. Romeo
by Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
14) Re: alt.music.WHATEVER
by Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com>
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:57:40 -0200
From: AlexandroTalamini <Alexandro@Boticario.com.br>
To: "'ytsejam@axnet.net'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: alt.music.WHATEVER
Message-ID: <CB9A835262C6D1118B3B00805FEA2A719C41B2@CORREIO>
Hi jammers!
I'm looking for some Rush and DT boot CDs. Some guys told me to try
"alt.music.rush or bootlegs or WHATEVER", but when I type it on my browser
ADDRESS field I get a "Host not found." message.
QUESTION: How do I access those addresses? Do I need to install any special
program?
Thanks in advance,
Alex
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:21:00 -0500
From: "MacAusland, Robert: HFX" <MacAusland.Robert@ic.gc.ca>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Straight Ahead Shred-Fests (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199811271321.FAA24695@knight.axnet.net>
Guilty Secret #56
I like/love prog, and the more complex the better, but on occasional a high
decibel barrage of pure ear candy can be oh so sweet.
A friend of mine loaned me his Quake II CD a few weeks back (good game, got
completely lost, didn't finish it, oh well) The game was cool, but the
*music* was *ON*. Pure Instrumental Rock-Hard Riff Candy played at just the
right tempo and oh so moshable. (who wrote/produced those tunes btw?
Anyone? Anyone?). Long after I'd given up on finishing the game, I'd pop
the CD in the stereo and blast it just for the hell of it.
Are there any groups out there past/present who produce the same sort of
material? DT is good, but every so often you just have to digress. And
this works.
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:30:06 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Straight Ahead Shred-Fests (NDTC)
Message-ID: <365EB76E.1F102DE4@caribe.net>
MacAusland, Robert: HFX wrote:
> Guilty Secret #56
>
> A friend of mine loaned me his Quake II CD a few weeks back (good game, got
> completely lost, didn't finish it, oh well) The game was cool, but the
> *music* was *ON*. Pure Instrumental Rock-Hard Riff Candy played at just the
> right tempo and oh so moshable. (who wrote/produced those tunes btw?
> Anyone? Anyone?).
If im not mistaken it was done by Rob zombie..
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:04:01 PST From: "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: Phil Collins.... Message-ID: <19981127140402.12939.qmail@hotmail.com>
I think Phil Collins is an excellent drummer, not to mention prodigy for his music writing abilities or the fact that he plays just about every instrument on earth as good as he plays the drums and is an awesome singer. It's all in a person's taste, but I think it's wrong to insult a drummer because he's in a band where the music is "commercial"ly successful (makes lots of money and appeals to the majority of people)! What if Mike Portnoy wound up being in a band like Pearl Jam. I mean the drumming might have been a little more impressive, but if he took it too far it just wouldn't sound right, ya know? Would that mean that Mike Portnoy sucks? I hardly think so!! It just means they play two completely different kinds of music, but then not so completely different, being that an influencial artist to Portnoy and others in the band were Phil Collins/Genesis. Or how about John Bonham, he certainly wasn't what you would consider a "progressive" drummer, but he was one of the most influential drummers of all time. And Ginger Baker, Neil Peart (maybe a bad example since he was progressive, but certainly plays alot simpler than Portnoy), even Ringo Starr was very influencial for a lot of drummers. The Beatles couldn't have had a better drummer to fit the music at that time. Anyway, I'm done flappin' now. Peace!
Mike
>Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:17:50 -0800 (PST) >Reply-To: ytsejam@ax.com >From: "Dennis Leeflang" <dl@xs4all.nl> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Phil Collins.... > > >Neil Gallop wrote about Phil Collins: > ><<<The stuff he did with Genesis was solid but >not impressive, >>> > >You really don't get it do you? >Do all drummers have to be impressing? I bet at least half of you prog >drummers out there freak out when they're asked to lay down a solid 4/4... >Maybe that's why most of you guys don't appreciate Metallica anymore. Ever >heard of "Less Is More"? I guess simple is hard for you.... >It's what the music sounds like that counts, not how impessive the musicians >play, God damnit..... > > >Stickmaster D. >(I just realized this post will probably mean I will have to put that >firesuit on again.... <sigh...>) > > > >
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:20:35 PST From: "Dream Theater" <dtdrummin@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: ease down, guy Message-ID: <19981127142036.11216.qmail@hotmail.com>
WOW!! That's so wierd!! I just typed almost the exact same message just before reading this one!! Hmmm... I guess I'm not the only one that thinks the way I do. :)
Mike
>Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:29:36 -0800 (PST) >Reply-To: ytsejam@ax.com >From: "Rahul Ananda" <rananda@mcn.com> >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: ease down, guy > > > > Dennis Leeflang erupted thusly: > >Do all drummers have to be impressing? I bet at least half of you > >prog drummers out there freak out when they're asked to lay > >down a solid 4/4. Maybe that's why most of you guys don't > >appreciate Metallica anymore... > > "Impressing" doesn't necessarily mean "technically impressing." > John Bonham was an impressive drummer...but hardly the technically > impressing type like all these other drummers we've been yapping > about over the past week. Most of us don't appreciate Lars > anymore because, quite simply, the shit he plays is boring. > He doesn't have the right feel (there's that word again!) to > be an interesting simple drummer. Bonham had it, Ringo had it. > Lars doesn't. As this is bordering on Metallica talk, kindly > direct any disagreements on Lars to private e-mail. > > As far as Phil goes, he does some pretty challenging figures > (Los Endos on Trick of the Tail" or Nuclear Burn by Brand X) > but it's nothing that any reasonably competent drummer can't do. > But he does play the "right" beat. Which hardly any drummer does. > Here lies his strength, he correctly accentuates the music, and > _occasionally_ does something chopsy when occasion demands. After > all, Genesis and Brand X are not NEARLY as busy note-wise as DT. > > Instead of jumping all over Neil and accusing half the drummers > on the list of not being able to play Smells Like Teen Spirit, > you could have said something, I don't know....interesting? > > One last thing..sorry to fill my posts with intangibles like > "feel" or "right beat" but I can think of no concrete way > to describe some of these elusive things. > > -Rahul Ananda (making up for over 4 years of lurking in ONE > FUCKING WEEK)
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:25:23 EST From: AyameYuki@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net, themirror@egroups.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 4460 Message-ID: <b3feed85.365eb653@aol.com>
hey....nice to see you guys rant again. i personally think UAGM is pretty cool.....but on IAW..best solos : guitar: Pull Me Under... :bass ( sorta ) : also on Take the Time ....about 5:34 minutes into the ...JM totally goes crazy on the bass when its paired up with JP. although it would have been fine with just JM playing ( no offense..i play guitar pretty well as i do bass..as well as other stuff ive done. did you guys want an audio tape i did a while back ? its all accoustic guitars. E mail me if you want more info :) )...anyway...enough of my weak sales pitch. here's the real reason : ( you can wake up now ) : i have created a e mailing group dedicated to DT / any other bands/ and miscellaneous stuff that's cool. one rule : NO PORN! ANYTHING OF THE SORT AND ILL COME AFTER YOU! and also: any swearing should be NECESSARILY SHORT> i dont want to get caught reading curse words and my parents thinking that I wrote it. ( ok..sometimes i do...havent gotten caught..lol )>.but here's the links of my new, THREE mailing lists. :) sign up....start things working you guys :) : <A HREF="http://www.egroups.com/list/theaternow/">THeater Now</A> <A HREF="http://www.findmail.com/list/musiciansfeedback/">FindMail: musiciansfeedback</A> <A HREF="http://www.findmail.com/list/musiciansinfluence/">FindMail: musiciansinfluence</A> ( A QUICK WORD TO LISA : THIS IS ALSO ON EGROUPS.COM :)>>> MAYBE ILL BE AS POPULAR AS OUR LEADER EH ? )
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:36:06 -0200 (EDT) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: alt.music.WHATEVER Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9811271230380.20308-100000@jaca>
On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, AlexandroTalamini wrote:
> I'm looking for some Rush and DT boot CDs. Some guys told me to try > "alt.music.rush or bootlegs or WHATEVER", but when I type it on my > browser ADDRESS field I get a "Host not found." message. > > QUESTION: How do I access those addresses? Do I need to install any > special program?
These are names of newsgroups. Newsgroups aren't websites. You'll have to use a newsreader (unless your browser understand NNTP -- at least, Netscape understands) and the address of a news server (contact your Internet provider if they have a newsserver and what it's address is).
After you've set up everything on your end, just go to:
news://alt.music.rush news://alt.music.bootlegs news://alt.music.dream-theater
Among other groups, to see if some people are looking for some trades...
BTW, I have some DT boots and we might arrange some trades. I have a CD-R drive, which means that I can copy CDs. And I'm also planning on transferring some tapes with very (DT) rare jams to CDs when I have some free time (after my finals are over).
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 19:52:18 -0700 From: "Korg Ecksthrey" <korgx3@safelink.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Guitar players Message-ID: <001e01bcfadf$7b3f7aa0$280d84d0@korgx3>
>just isn't. But since when has Neil Peart's thoughts on the subject >been Bible?
I personally never read it, but I hear Neil does make a short appearance just after the fall of Babylon.
>bloody Vai ( huge speed and great playing do not a good guitarist >make - see below ). And worst of all: Malmsteen - at least Vai wrote
Are you sure you're talking about Steve Vai or Michael Angelo? I detect a wee bit of penis envy, yet only a wee amount. I agree, talent is no basis on how to judge a great guitarist, wot? </sarcasm> (Someone's got an eety widdo pee pee and it ain't Stevie...)
> While I'm here: I'd just like to diss "Under A Glass Moon". IT'S >FUCKING LOUSY, YOU DAFT BUGGERS!!!!!!!!! It's the weakest track DT
IT IS FUCKING TRASH! I'D PUT IT IN A TRASH CAN! Hey guy, you know all you have to do is press a little button on your CD player that looks a little something like this: >| , Your welcome.
Oh, by the way, I think Mike Bahr would agree, wherever he may be... -- KorgX3
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:06:58 +0100 From: CyberDuke <duskob@mol.com.mk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Black Light Syndrome Message-ID: <365ECE22.FA030E7E@mol.com.mk>
YEAH! I finally got my share of Black Light Syndrome & Age Of Impact (Thanks Jaco :)
OK, OK, no complaints please - I know I'm a little late, but hey, lemme see you here find this stuff! :(
BLS: Wow, this is one great piece of music! Steve Stevens surprises with his inventions ability! More or less, the biggest burden is on his back. While, of course Terry and Tony does an excellent job too! Now I realize what those jammers were saying about Terry playing notes/music and not just simple drums. :) Very weird style. So, I guess that's a good drummer - while on BLS he shows all his creativity, on AOI he plays straight rhythm as a background, without showing too much!
BTW, what is the role of Gail Zappa, mentioned in the liner notes? If I recall correctly, she's the daughter of Frank Zappa right? Also, can someone tell on which songs/video clips from Billy Idol and Michael Jackson guitarist is Steve?
BLS is a must have for all open-minded enough folks! :) --
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:38:20 +0100 From: "Volodya" <oanrec@club-internet.fr> To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Superior [24.11] & Bruce Dickinson [25.11] concerts short reviews Message-ID: <000601be1a24$581b94e0$46a624c3@default>
Hello everyone,
Just a few comments on these two extraordinary shows.
SUPERIOR, La Locomotive, Paris, France, 24.11.98. I really enjoyed their latest album "younique" and expected a lot from the show. What I didn't expect is how many people would show up. Believe it or not, but only around 100 fans were present. The reason for such poor attendance remains unknown. A part from that :) the show was very good. The mix, sound, and lights seemed to be perfect. The new material went very well live, they even did "free minded" and "think" with two ladies, Andrea and Maria, on backing vocals. The highlight of the show was Metallica's "sad but true" played in the middle of "dial 9-11". I look forward to hearing these guys again in January when they'll open for Angra and Stratovarius. The play list goes like this:
1. stop [intro] 2. not with me 3. amok 4. total void 5. god's funeral 6. nothing 7. hades 8. free minded 9. the truth ain't kind 10. escape from reality 11. think 12. why - Encore - 13. dial 9-11 / sad but true / dial 9-11 14. until the end
BRUCE DICKINSON. Elysee-Monmartre, Paris, France, 25.11.98.
Just a few words about the opening act, Pink Cream 69. I don't know how many of you like this German band but I personally found their performance amazingly good. There was a time when PC 69 went into grunge / alternative stuff but after releasing one studio and one live album which didn't receive much appreciation the guys decided to go back to their roots. Those of you who like powerful, melodic hard rock should definitely check out their latest album "electrified". The set was heavily based on the new material and included songs like "shame", "electrified", "stranger in time" among others. And of course some classic tunes like "twisted" and "signs of danger" (which David sings much better than Andi Deris). The crowd seemed to be very pleased with the PC's performance.
But nothing goes in comparison with Bruce's show. I think those of you who had a chance to see him already in Europe would agree that he hasn't been so enthusiastic since his glory Maiden days. As you may see below the set list included 7 out of 10 songs from the "Chemical Wedding" album. First 6 songs were put as a concept show with special William Blake introductions to each one. The only sad point was the absence of Roy Z who had to stay in Los Angeles due to some family problems. Replacement guitarist was "The Guru", guitar technician on the "CW" album. I would expect Adrian Smith to play all solos but no way, half of them were played by that weird guy with the weird name. I wish he didn't!.... All other band members were great! Obviously everyone's attention was gathered around Bruce and Adrian Smith who, btw, did the note-to-note solo on "powerslave". That one was a killer; it almost took me back to 1985, to the World Slavery Tour. "2 minutes to midnight" Bruce sang better than he did in Maiden after the Seventh tour. Once again, Mr. Dickinson proved to be the best singer on today's metal scene. There aren't too many dates left but if you have a chance to see him GO!, you won't regret.
Anyway, here's what the band played that night:
1. trumpets of jericho 2. king crimson 3. chemical wedding 4. gates of urizen 5. killing floor 6. book of thel 7. tears of the dragon 8. laughing in the hiding bush 9. accident of birth 10. the tower 11. the darkside of acquarius 12. powerslave - Encore 1 - 13. tattooed millionaire 14. 2 minutes to midnight - Encore 2 - 15. road to hell 16. flight of icarus
Take care all.
Volodya.
NP: Eldritch "El Nino" ........................................................................... .................................................... OPEN ALL NIGHT [ OAN ] RECORDS Check out the live version of "Of Sins and Shadows" by Symphony X in MP3 format http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/9326/oan.htm e-mail: oanrec@club-internet.fr ICQ number: 19517742 ........................................................................... .....................................................
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:52:47 EST From: Perk1994@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: LI Portnoy Drum Clinic Message-ID: <ab0ffcc2.365ee6ef@aol.com>
Hello everyone, I don't know if this has been mentioned here, but the Mike Portnoy Drum Clinic on Tuesday, Dec. 1, is not going to be at the Long Island Drum Center (like it says on UACM) but at Alegante Caterers at 1031 North Broadway in North Massapequa. It starts at 7. You can get to Alegante from exit 30 N of the Southern State Parkway and the place is five or six blocks north of the parkway.
Take care, Adam Perkowsky
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:06:09 -0700 From: "Ryan Roehrich" <ryanscott@mindless.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Straight Ahead Shred-Fests (NDTC) Message-ID: <4.1.19981127130456.00a40de0@pop.primenet.com>
>A friend of mine loaned me his Quake II CD a few weeks back (good game, got >completely lost, didn't finish it, oh well) The game was cool, but the >*music* was *ON*. Pure Instrumental Rock-Hard Riff Candy played at just the >right tempo and oh so moshable. (who wrote/produced those tunes btw? >Anyone? Anyone?). Long after I'd given up on finishing the game, I'd pop >the CD in the stereo and blast it just for the hell of it.
Not really an answer to your question but putting the new Anthax in the drive instead of the Quake II cd also produces great results while playing quake II :)
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:30:35 -0600 (CST) From: Mauricio Martinez Villarreal <al769526@mail.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Analog kid---M. Romeo Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.981127092045.32078D-100000@academ07.mty.itesm.mx>
=09I =B4ve been listening that Rush tribute album a lot lately. But i=20 can=B4t help to listen a lot of times the #3 track, Analog kid. It sounds= =20 so cool all the way. I think billy sheehan hadn=B4t stretched that much=20 since his Roth-Vai days....absolutely great. =09Anybody knows if Micheal Romeo plays just the solo (and outro solo)=20 only? The guitar rhythms are killer, anybody here can post just the intro= =20 riff? I play it my way, but i=B4d like to see if i=B4m right, or if i=B4m= =20 missing something.=20 =09I have SX=B4s TDWoT and TiO, and the best solo i=B4ve heard from Romeo,= =20 is the one on Analog Kid. When i hear it, i just wonder: Could anybody=20 get that solo right just by ear (at least sound close to it)? =09If anybody has a tab of that song (this version or the original by=20 Rush), please contact me privately.
Mauricio
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:37:16 -0500 From: Damon Fibraio <dfibraio@home.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: alt.music.WHATEVER Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981127153716.008196c0@mail.avnl1.nj.home.com>
Go into Outlook express, or netscape. at the address box if you are using a web browser, type news://news.server.com/alt.music.whatever. This tells you web browser to query your news server. You must know what your news server is and fill it in after the two slashes in the news thingie. If you have outlook express running, and you filled in your news server information, you can use that to find the newsgroups you are looking for. You can also go to deja news website and do that there. I am not a newsgroup junkie so I can't help you much there. At 05:17 AM 11/27/1998 -0800, you wrote: Hi jammers! I'm looking for some Rush and DT boot CDs. Some guys told me to try "alt.music.rush or bootlegs or WHATEVER", but when I type it on my browser ADDRESS field I get a "Host not found." message. QUESTION: How do I access those addresses? Do I need to install any special program? Thanks in advance, Alex
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