YTSEJAM Digest 4462
Today's Topics:
1) Woohoo!
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
2) Re: LI Portnoy Drum Clinic
by Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
3) Re: METAL EDGE READER'S POLL!!!
by AnalogGal@aol.com
4) XMAS and DT
by rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
5) Question for Germans Jammer (NDTC)
by "Dick" <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
6) Re: Superior Concert (NDTC)
by "Dick" <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
7) Re: Peart
by Ibanez506@aol.com
8) Re: Black Light Syndrome
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
9) quake music
by Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU>
10) Wheel of Time fans...
by Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net>
11) A Shameless Plug
by "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com>
12) Prepare to DIE
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
13) Re: quake music
by Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu>
14) it's been real....
by Thrak75@aol.com
15) WHERE MY HORNS AT?!
by "James C. Shields" <jimshields@bigplanet.com>
16) Screaming in Digital...
by AL <al@isd.net>
17) Spock's Beard & Superior
by AL <al@isd.net>
18) Re: Spock's Beard & Superior
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
19) New Eldritch CD
by "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net>
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:50:47 +0100
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Woohoo!
Message-ID: <01BE1A50.0296DDA0@113.153.dialin.mxs.nl>
UACM just got its 400,000st visitor since
January 1st, 1998!
Thought I'd share that with you guys. :)
Mark Bredius
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:02:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@erotomania.org>
To: Perk1994@aol.com
Subject: Re: LI Portnoy Drum Clinic
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.981127160229.8770A-100000@tempest.ocis.temple.edu>
> I don't know if this has been mentioned here, but the Mike Portnoy Drum Clinic
> on Tuesday, Dec. 1, is not going to be at the Long Island Drum Center (like it
> says on UACM) but at Alegante Caterers at 1031 North Broadway in North
> Massapequa. It starts at 7. You can get to Alegante from exit 30 N of the
> Southern State Parkway and the place is five or six blocks north of the
> parkway.
That's what it says on the ticket. :)
I'll catch ya there on Tuesday! Should be a blast.
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erotomania! - http://www.erotomania.org
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:15:26 EST
From: AnalogGal@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: METAL EDGE READER'S POLL!!!
Message-ID: <d3aa21b.365f247e@aol.com>
<< However, we then had AnalogGal SCREAMING at us all to "vote for EVERYONE
in Dream Theater!", and I take issue with that. No one is going to tell
me who to vote for, regardless of what mailing list I'm reading. >>
First off, no one was screaming. I was simply trying to sound excited, and I
hoped to pass that mood onto others in order to encourage them to vote.
Secondly, no one was telling you who to vote for. I mean, a large number of
people here are DT fans and I figured they'd be interested. Third, vote for
whomever you wish -- or don't vote at all. The whole point of the post was to
get people interested in something that might be fun, and since DT is really
the only prog band that Metal Edge covers, I'd like to see them continue to be
featured in that magazine as much as possible. Plus, it would be pretty cool
to see a REAL BAND win once in a while. It doesn't make them richer; it
doesn't make them better musicians. It's just fun.
So, for those of you who are still interested, take some time and visit Metal
Edge Online and cast your votes. Enjoy and have fun!
www.mtledge.com/13reader98.htm
Christina
Webmistress, www.dereksherinian.com
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:30:57 -0800
From: rockercat <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: XMAS and DT
Message-ID: <365F281F.7BC9C086@earthlink.net>
I never, ever thought I'd admit this, but I am sooooooooo glad that this
year I'll be hanging with the in-laws in Connecticut over the holidays!!
Just oredered my tix for the New Haven show, so watch out New England
cuz here I come!!! :-)
rockercat
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 06:19:38 +0700
From: "Dick" <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
To: "Ytse" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Question for Germans Jammer (NDTC)
Message-ID: <003201be1a5d$35306f80$02000003@centrin.bdg.centrin.net.id>
Hello there German jammer,
My friend is going to Germany for 2 months, so can you tell me where the
address of good Used CD shops there. Maybe he can bought me couples of used
CD then. I think the town is Groningen.
Private mail please, thank you...
and sorry for NDTC
Dick
indonesian jammer
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 06:24:41 +0700
From: "Dick" <dick_rascal@softhome.net>
To: "Ytse" <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Superior Concert (NDTC)
Message-ID: <003401be1a5d$3843ca00$02000003@centrin.bdg.centrin.net.id>
Hello there jammers,
Volodya wrote:
>SUPERIOR, La Locomotive, Paris, France, 24.11.98.
>The play list goes like this:
<snip>
>3. amok
<snip>
What? Superior got a song with that title? Damn.. that's a Malay word took
by English, and they only took the bad sides, huh :-)
I'll be happy if I can hear that song, must be a 'killer' :-)
At least the English took Durian and Rambutan too, eh...........
Okay for DTC : Not yet a sign of OiaL here in my country....ugh......
Dick
Indonesian jammer
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:17:02 EST
From: Ibanez506@aol.com
To: ytsejam@axnet.net
Subject: Re: Peart
Message-ID: <ba08594f.365f32ee@aol.com>
In a message dated 11/27/98 6:29:02 AM Central Standard Time, ytsejam@ax.com
writes:
<< But since when has Neil Peart's thoughts on the subject
been Bible? >>
I assume this is directed at my post. I never said it was Bible, just an
interesting way at looking at drumming and music in general.
Juli
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:33:29 -0200 (EDT)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@axnet.net>
Subject: Re: Black Light Syndrome
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.9811272131420.8191-100000@jaca>
On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, CyberDuke wrote:
> BLS is a must have for all open-minded enough folks! :)
I have an MP3 of one of the songs and I listened to the entire CD
once. While of course all open-minded people should give the CD a listen,
one don't have to be that open-minded to get into it, since the music is
not avant-garde.
But I recommend it (and I'll get my copy soon, I hope :-) ).
[]s, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:07:51 -0500 From: Jason Hartman <lhartm1@ds1.GL.UMBC.EDU> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: quake music Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981127190751.006d7140@pop.gl.umbc.edu>
For some reason I'm thinking our buddy from Nine Inch Nails did the music to Quake II. I could be thinking of Quake I though. Not sure.
Hehe... one time I had Eric Johnson's "Venus Isle" in the cd drive when I started playing Quake. There is something twisted about blowing heads off with "Song for Lynette" on in the background :)
Jason
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:27:52 -0600 From: Kyle McCabe <kmccabe@wavetech.net> To: Ytsejammers <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Wheel of Time fans... Message-ID: <365F5198.2F16173E@wavetech.net>
Every once in a while I get a catalog from Museum Replicas Limited. It's you typical swords and armor catalog... But the most recent one had a small section in the back devoted to fantasy...and they had crafted some of the weapons featured in the WoT series! Things like Padan Fain's dagger, Perrin's Axe, the Seanchan sword, and of course the blademaster sword complete with the heron mark. I thought it was really cool to see a real replica...kinda like when they make movies out of books you read. Anyway, thought I'd share.
-Taur
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:24:49 -0500 From: "Scott Sturdivant" <ckssrs@axiomnet.com> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: A Shameless Plug Message-ID: <000301be1a7e$a9fa30a0$cc586acf@ckssrs.axiomnet.com>
Hello everyone, I just set up a web page of my own and I'd just like to say that if you're looking to trade any music, jump over to my place and perhaps we can set something up!
http://www.erotomania.org/scott
I'm actually looking for material by Dream Theater, Angra, and Stratovarius.....But virtually anything will satisfy me!
Scott.
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:19:42 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Prepare to DIE Message-ID: <365F79DE.27B2C9DD@imap1.asu.edu>
Simon John Dodd thus sputtered forthly:
> I'm getting bored with all this "less is more, no it isn't, > yes it is" rubbish! You're all right - sometimes it is, sometimes it > just isn't. But since when has Neil Peart's thoughts on the subject > been Bible?
I've mentioned this before, I'm sure.... But ya ever notice how people add to threads and begin their posts with, "I'm bored to death with this thread of la la la, but what I believe is....so let's leave it at that..." ? Just an observation....
Then he threw his balls onto the chopping block with a top 5 list:
> 5. Eddie van Halen ( face it, he invented modern rock guitar ) > 4. Joe Satriani ( 'cos whatever EVH forgot, Satch didn't ) > 3. Jimmy Page ( ...I mean, where do you begin? ) > 2. John Petrucci ( the perfect mix of 5, 4, and 1 ) > 1. David Gilmour ( the sound...the phrasing...the material...)
To each their own...I agree somewhat with the Van Halen comment but I believe Hendrix had just as many trailblazing credentials in the shaping of modern rock guitar. Satriani's just from another planet. Plain 'n simple. He was the soul survivor of an alien spaceship crash in a remote forest just outside of Los Angeles when a gang of gay bikers were having a picnic and discovered him among the wreckage. They taught him the ancient biker techniques of headbutting, hiding in shadows, and humility, but most importantly, how to control the force of the in-between side. Satch soon grew up to realize what exactly their weekly "wrestling" matches entailed, became unsatisfied living as a member of the gang and as soon as he found out that Santa Clause wasn't really a biker, he took his light sab..er...guitar with him to the city just as the evil Republican Empire sent storm troopers disguised as members of the Christian Coalition and Jahova's Witnesses to burn the gang's biker bar into the ground.
And that's all I got to say about that. > Rank outsiders: Fripp, Hendrix, Iommi, Morse. > NOT rank outsiders: Anyone remotely associated with Korn. Alex > Lifeson ( languishing somewhere below Noel fucking Gallagher ). Steve > bloody Vai ( huge speed and great playing do not a good guitarist > make - see below ). And worst of all: Malmsteen - at least Vai wrote > a classic like For the Love Of God.
Heheheh, funny you grouped Korn with Steve Vai. You didn't pick up a copy of the 7th Heaven video by any chance didjya?
But since you dissed the great Shreddi Master Vai, I must kill you. Vai's admitted he's not the fastest player in the world, and I've seen some faster players I'll admit, but he's not concerned with speed, he's concerned with note value more than anything, keeping a consistency in the songs themselves, and adding his own pinache to what many many young or lower shreddi knights would be playing simple scalar patterns. He's constantly improving, constantly producing, and constantly kicking my ass everytime I spin Fire Garden and Alien Love Secrets in the stereo. If a constant improvement and incredible creative output and a great personality don't make a great guitar player...WHAT THE HELL DOES? The dude even has the poses down for god's sake! AND HE HAS LONG (well, in comparison to Satch or James Hetfield) HAIR!
> While I'm here: I'd just like to diss "Under A Glass Moon". IT'S > FUCKING LOUSY, YOU DAFT BUGGERS!!!!!!!!! It's the weakest track DT > have ever produced. It sounds spasmodically disjointed, especially > when placed between two standout tracks. Best Petrucci solos? Voices. > Lie. Peruvian Skies. Lines in the Sand. Oh, and ACoS 5. I could go on > - they're all ace. EXCEPT THAT ONE!!! STOP IT!!
I get it...since you can't PLAY THE SOLO YOURSELF, it's bad, isn't it?! ADMIT IT! YOU HAVE THE CHOPS OF A 2 MONTH OLD TREE MONKEY AND YOUR FEET SMELL LIKE ROTTEN EGG NOG!
Happy Holidays everybody :) ~Over the parking lot and thru the mall to Eckie's sanitarium we go...
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:27:33 -0700 From: Eckie <eckie@imap1.asu.edu> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: Re: quake music Message-ID: <365F7BB5.6D381A62@imap1.asu.edu>
Jason Hartman was WRONG! >:) > For some reason I'm thinking our buddy from Nine Inch Nails did the music > to Quake II. I could be thinking of Quake I though. Not sure.
Yer right on the second count. Our good buddy from White Zombie, yes, that lovable, huggable little hell hound himself, Rob Zombie was the "musical consultant" for the Q2 staff. I know for sure it was him who did that little intro scene music where the marine's flying around like an Arizona driver in a spaceship, but i'm not really sure who composed the actual game music. It might be Rob himself on that too. *shrug* > Hehe... one time I had Eric Johnson's "Venus Isle" in the cd drive when I > started playing Quake. There is something twisted about blowing heads off > with "Song for Lynette" on in the background :)
Even more disturbing: Playing Quake with a Micheal W Smith CD in the rom....
~Eckie runs around with a giant pink BFG shouting "MARCO!"
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 23:32:41 EST From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: it's been real.... Message-ID: <e2e6697b.365f7ce9@aol.com>
i've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to bid you a farewell for now. it's nothing personal, but with possibly the worst finals' season in my life coming up in 2 weeks, and with my lack of participation, it's time i jetted.
not to say i haven't learned anything about the band i more or less matured to (maturity is debatable, of course). and not just about dt- about several other issues. i'll always be appreciative of that.
i'll also always be appreciative of the freaks i've made friends with over the 3800 or so ytsejams i've been around for- some still here, and some not. and if i'm lucky, i'll be in touch with them. in no order, mad phat props to bitches like partha, metzger (hugh g. erection), mojo, cahill, wisha, airdance, ekim, jeff chew, deb seeger, coldfire, bracken (where the fuck did HE go?), syrinx, ytsejim, bafu, d-man, g. jack, rick terry, ibanez.....i know there's a bunch of names that aren't popping in my head at this moment, but i'm tired and fried. you know who y'all are.
alright, so that's that. y'all know my email if you care. continued success. it's bitches like all of us who keep a band like dt from being ignored completely.
peace. wild koba
************************************************************************ david y. kobayashi new york law school thrak75@aol.com http://www.mzachary.com/wildkoba (updated 11/1/98)
"and when the hour comes, don't be afraid- face the light of day and do it your way...." -g. lake ************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 23:42:51 -0600 From: "James C. Shields" <jimshields@bigplanet.com> To: ytsejam@axnet.net Subject: WHERE MY HORNS AT?! Message-ID: <365F8D56.40398E0F@bigplanet.com>
TEXAS, TEXAS YEE-HAA! We just beat those sheep-loving Aggies! Ricky Williams is the shit and a bag of chips! All-time leading rusher! (and about 45 other records he broke here at UT) we held the aggies to 3 first downs and 49 yards in the first half! We remained undefeated at home this season. that was, without a doubt, the best football game I've ever been to, and everyone be sure to watch the highlights this week to see Ricky's record-breaking touchdown run. All I gotta say is HEISMAN!
Give 'em Hell, Give 'em Hell, MAKE 'EM EAT SHIT! Yeah Orange, Yeah White, Yeah Longhorns Fight Fight Fight!
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:32:41 -0600 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Screaming in Digital... Message-ID: <365FA719.2A8DF439@isd.net>
I went shopping today for a new "high-end" CD player. I found the player of my dreams, problem is, it cost a fucking fortune. I brought the warden with me... Was that a mistake? I don't know, maybe. She gave me the seal of approval.... along with a slightly dirty look. She said "Before you drop $4,500.00 on a fucking CD player, I want my bathroom remodeled." (All in ceramic) Don't you just hate these trade offs? Now all I need is the cash.
If anyone here is interested in a little peek at the Progtologist's dream machine here is the Wadia 850: http://www.wadia.com/products/w850/w850phfr.html Or read a review at: http://www.wadia.com/products/w850/w850fi.html This machine is one of Wadia's mid-level units, but the sound is wonderful. I listened to it connected directly to a pair of Bryston 7B-ST mono-blocks feeding a pair of Magnapan MG 3.5's. (planar magnetic speakers) I have wet-dreams about replacing my California Audio Labs "Tercet" with this Wadia offering. I am open to accepting donations. :)
NP: Traffic "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" On vinyl! I even drug out my Van Alstine/Dynaco stereo tube amp just to add to the fun. Then I spun up the Revox table and.... OOooo sweet analog.
-- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ?Al is wishing he had the financial resources of Mr. Gates. <sigh>
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:56:30 -0600 From: AL <al@isd.net> To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Spock's Beard & Superior Message-ID: <365FACAE.B9B21536@isd.net>
I've had a little more time to listen to Spock's Beard & Superior this week. I retract my statement about the SB recording being above average. When I first listened to it I was using the little system in our living room. That system consists of a Dynaco tube preamp & amp, a top shelf Technics CD player (Yuk) and a pair of Polk Audio speakers. I don't listen to that system much, the warden does. So my first impressions were false. After listening to SB's KoS several times on the "BIG" system in Al's little playhouse <grin> I think the recording is thin and lifeless. Some of the music is growing on me, I really like "Flow." But the damn recording annoys me. Any comments?
On to Superior... I like this CD. (Behind) The entire CD is great and I plan on looking into other Superior CD's. The recording is well above average for a Prog/Prog-Metal/Rock recording. The guitars could use a warmer tone though. They sound a little dry and analytical, I don't know who to blame, the band or the recording engineer. How about it Bernd, any comments? Great work guys!
NP: Rick Wakeman "Criminal Record" On vinyl... Duh.
-- AL... The Ytse-Progtologist
Switchcraft Communications & Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Outside of a dog, a book is probably man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:43:53 +1100 From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: Re: Spock's Beard & Superior Message-ID: <002b01be1aab$3ee86520$1c6716cb@graham>
>After listening to SB's >KoS several times on the "BIG" system in Al's little playhouse <grin> I think >the recording is thin and lifeless. Some of the music is growing on me, I really >like "Flow." But the damn recording annoys me. Any comments?
Yeah I too feel this way about SB (sorry Lisa), I have listend to all their CD's and cannot get into them, I dunno what it is either, but there's something about them that dosen't click for me. They are definately talented, but not for me :)
>On to Superior... I like this CD. (Behind) The entire CD is great and I >plan on looking into other Superior CD's. The recording is well above average >for a Prog/Prog-Metal/Rock recording. The guitars could use a warmer tone >though. They sound a little dry and analytical, I don't know who to blame, the >band or the recording engineer. How about it Bernd, any comments? >Great work guys!
Yeah now your talking, 'Behind' is a classic in my book, lots of great songs, heavy on the 'balls'n'chunk'. The follow up 'YOUique' is quite different, to be honest I think the change in style was a bit too drastic jump from the sound of 'Behind'. Still has some great songs but IMO not quite in the same class as the debut :)
GaZ
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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:31:16 +1100 From: "Graham Boyle" <icarus@sydney.net> To: <ytsejam@axnet.net> Subject: New Eldritch CD Message-ID: <003b01be1ab1$e2e75ea0$1c6716cb@graham>
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Has anyone out there got the new Eldritch CD 'El Nino' ? I got myself a copy today, so far I am very impressed, lots of balls and = chunk great songs, I already like it better than their previous album = 'Headquake'.
Anyone else care to offer an opinion ?
GaZ
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